The ultimate shotgun

**pajeff02** · 03-27-2010, 01:33 PM

My brother just sent this to me. It's from a couple of years ago, but I do not see that it has been posted in here yet. Very impressive piece of hardware.

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**Sarge** · 03-27-2010, 03:09 PM

I want one.

**pajeff02** · 03-27-2010, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

I want one.

Actually surprised you don't have one.

**Mr.C&I** · 03-27-2010, 10:44 PM

it dug one helluva trough into that hill

**cuervo25_1** · 03-28-2010, 06:42 AM

Sorry sarge the only ones you can get are watered down,I already checked into it. Between that and the beowulf a soldier would be so much better off.add in the dragon skin body armor. the terrorists or any one fighting against us would be screwed.

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**ztrouble** · 03-28-2010, 09:02 AM

I actually saw and played with a tracked robot with two of these things on it at a Warfighter Conference here (did not get to shoot it)... Bitch was BAD

**tremiles** · 03-29-2010, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

Sorry sarge the only ones you can get are watered down,I already checked into it. Between that and the beowulf a soldier would be so much better off.add in the dragon skin body armor. the terrorists or any one fighting against us would be screwed.

50 Beowulf? A rifle with a 7 round magazine, 12ga recoil, and rainbow-like trajectory is an answer to a question no one is asking.

**cuervo25_1** · 03-29-2010, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by tremiles

50 Beowulf? A rifle with a 7 round magazine, 12ga recoil, and rainbow-like trajectory is an answer to a question no one is asking.

10 round mag, no where near 12 gauge recoil and it does what they want it to to without colateral damage. The drop cant be that bad if they are hitting what they want where they want at 200 yards.

**Huskerz1** · 03-30-2010, 10:04 PM

Normal range combat engagements between 150m-200m, price of weapon, price of ammo, mag capacity, etc. would rule out a Beo for me. 6.8SPC battle sight zeroed for 200m has the happy coincidence of an initial crossover trajectory at 50 yards. The flat trajectory arc allows very precise shooting out to 250 meters where the bullet is only 2" below line of sight. Meaning it'll be kill shot with enough umph from a 115 grain bthp at the POI(point of impact) when aiming center mass.

**tremiles** · 03-31-2010, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

10 round mag, no where near 12 gauge recoil and it does what they want it to to without colateral damage. The drop cant be that bad if they are hitting what they want where they want at 200 yards.

"They" certainly could hit targets at 200 yards if zero'd for 200 yards. But they couldn't turn around and hit 50, 75, 100, 150, and 200 yard targets with an Aimpoint or any current ACOG, the primary optics in our inventory, and certainly not through irons. According to Alexander Arms (the 50 Beowulf creators), with a 100 yard zero and 24" barrel, the 250 yard drop is between 20 and 30 inches depending on the projectile. The standard barrel length for M-4's is 14.5 inches. With lower velocity of a shorter barrel, drop will be significantly worse. I suppose if you put a mil-dot scope, or another optic with a reticule with hashes calibrated for the trajectory, you can manage that drop, but that kind of defeats the purpose of a CQB rifle. Both 6.8SPC and 6.5 Grendel (and tried and true .308/7.62) will crack engine blocks, and have excellent ballistics through glass with the right bullets. They are all capable of just about every task that 50 Beowulf was created for, plus have flatter trajectories and excellent longer range capabilities in 6.5G and .308/7.62. Or we could just employ already-in-service Mossberg 590's or Benelli M4 shotgun's with slugs at vehicle checkpoints.