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    Im considering..

    Alright im considering adding nitrous to my car. Just a small shot like maybe 75, but well i kinda have a small idea as to how it works or which are good or what will i have to do to get it going? Any help or suggestions?

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    Not finished with the install, but Nitrous Outlet has a lot of good stuff at the best prices.

    Here is my parts list of the major stuff I'm installing:

    Nitrous Outlet Single Nozzle Wet Kit w/ 10lb Bottle and 4AN Lines
    Nitrous Outlet Big Show Purge Kit w/ Dual Lines running to nostrils on the front
    Nitrous Outlet 4AN Nitrous Filter
    Nitrous Outlet Remote Bottle Opener
    Nitrous Outlet Automatic Bottle Heater
    Nitrous Outlet Spare Tire Mounting Plate
    Timing Tuner (Window Switch and Timing Retard upon Nitrous Activation)
    DynoTune Lean Shut Down Switch (shuts down Nitrous if the A/F mixture becomes too lean)
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    More info on that timing tuner your using?

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    About how much am im looking at here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JwMonE99 View Post
    More info on that timing tuner your using?
    Basicly, it installs inline between the crank sensor and the ECU.

    The following can be programmed:

    - Window Switch (Nitrous)...adjust the window switch for when the Nitrous activates.
    - Base & WOT Spark...adjusts the spark for all around driving if you don't have a tune to run at peak performance...I will not be using this setting, sicne I will have my own tune through HP Tuners.
    -Retard (Nitrous)...automatically retards the timing a specified amount when the nitrous is activated.

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    Here is how I have my wiring set up with a WOT Switch, Lean Shut Down Switch, and Timing Tuner...the difference is that my setup is backwards...it goes Timing Tuner -> Lean Shut Down -> WOT...I didn't want the Timing Tuner going off the Nitrous Retard when I shift and the WOT switch shuts off the Nitrous:

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    I meant a simple part number, I couldnt find any lol but thanks for all that info.
    I just bought a Zex window switch, wish I would of waited a little longer and got one of these.

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    i love the timing tuner my guy installed one when he did my system so the car does not drive around with 4 degrees pulled all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by JwMonE99 View Post
    I meant a simple part number, I couldnt find any lol but thanks for all that info.
    I just bought a Zex window switch, wish I would of waited a little longer and got one of these.
    Sell te ZEX.

    http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...28&product=965

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bottlefedz28 View Post
    i love the timing tuner my guy installed one when he did my system so the car does not drive around with 4 degrees pulled all the time

    What is it like 2 degrees for every 50 shot right?

    How does it affect the motor performance wise or in general when you retard the timing while n/a?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JwMonE99 View Post
    What is it like 2 degrees for every 50 shot right?

    How does it affect the motor performance wise or in general when you retard the timing while n/a?
    Yeah, 1 degree for every 25hp of N2O.

    You're literally loosing hp...there is no reason to loose hp if you're only using the nitrous once in awhile. Best of both worlds is to run at peak performance and retard the timing on the juice.

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    too much timing retard can cause a backfire as well. i've ran a 150 shot on stock timing. the 1/25 or 2/50 retard isn't need until you go above 150 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    too much timing retard can cause a backfire as well. i've ran a 150 shot on stock timing. the 1/25 or 2/50 retard isn't need until you go above 150 or so.
    Yeah, I'm going to have Frost "tune" it for nitrous, then go back to N/A timing and use my Timing Tuner to tkae back the timing found with the nitrous "tune".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    Does anyone else sell one without the window switch?

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