WS6 vs 6.0 GTO

**jrc1122** · 07-08-2007, 07:56 PM

I raced an Auto 6.0 GTO today 1/8 mile race today. I won by about 1.5 cars.. Does that sound right?

He had air intake, and I have SLP lid. So our mods are the same.

I am 02 WS6 M6 -- He is LS2 6.0 GTO Automatic

**Vega** · 07-08-2007, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by jrc1122

I raced an Auto 6.0 GTO today 1/8 mile race today. I won by about 1.5 cars.. Does that sound right?

He had air intake, and I have SLP lid. So our mods are the same.

I am 02 WS6 M6 -- He is LS2 6.0 GTO Automatic

In the realm of possibility.

**jrc1122** · 07-08-2007, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Vega

In the realm of possibility.

lol obviously because it happened lol--- I more or less wanted to know if it is a drivers race, or should I take any Automatic GTO 6.0.

So did I win because I out drove him, or is my car "faster".

**ATCharming** · 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM

id say transmission is the deciding factor. if u both had the same trannies itd be a driver's race, with u still having the edge.

so u being a manual, having less powertrain loss and having a ton of a better launch than him.... it souds about right

**kyemt** · 07-09-2007, 05:59 AM

i say drivers race GM actually says the auto gto is faster , 4.6 sec in 0-60 mph, m6 4.7 in 0-60 mph but thats all in the driver id say

**third_shift|studios** · 07-09-2007, 07:08 AM

he probably spun like hell off the line. Those 6.0's are wicked fast.

**LS2Tuner** · 07-09-2007, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by jrc1122

I raced an Auto 6.0 GTO today 1/8 mile race today. I won by about 1.5 cars.. Does that sound right?

He had air intake, and I have SLP lid. So our mods are the same.

I am 02 WS6 M6 -- He is LS2 6.0 GTO Automatic

He probably was an idiot that tries to shift the auto manually that takes 2 seconds after you shift to shift and by that time it is ALL over the revlimiter.
He should of pulled you in my experience with those cars. Your both on regular street tires?

**AUSI GTO** · 07-09-2007, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

he probably spun like hell off the line. Those 6.0's are wicked fast.

**jrc1122** · 07-09-2007, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by LS2Tuner

He probably was an idiot that tries to shift the auto manually that takes 2 seconds after you shift to shift and by that time it is ALL over the revlimiter.
He should of pulled you in my experience with those cars. Your both on regular street tires?

yeah both street tires.

I spun off the line, but not too bad, I don't know if he spun or not.

He did have some heavy ass 18 inch bling bling chrome wheels.

He said his car feels kinda slugish thru 1st 1/2 of first gear, but really opens up after that. (Sounds like a typical auto transmission car)

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 07-09-2007, 04:11 PM

I'll be getting into this same race soon. A buddy of mine got a 05 GTO auto recently and he wants to run me. He put exhaust on it, but that's it so far.

**anniversary30** · 07-09-2007, 04:55 PM

Arent gto's a few hondred pounds heavier also. Weight is a factor.

**AUSI GTO** · 07-09-2007, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by anniversary30

Arent gto's a few hondred pounds heavier also. Weight is a factor.

Yes, they are a bit over 3900 lbs...........wish I was closer, I'de run ya in my slow-ass 04 5.7 GTO

**Too Fast** · 07-09-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

he probably spun like hell off the line. Those 6.0's are wicked fast.

So's my WS6.

**kyemt** · 07-09-2007, 07:20 PM

save all this bickering for the stang guys lol

**jrc1122** · 07-09-2007, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by kyemt

save all this bickering for the stang guys lol

Not bickering what so ever.

I simply wanted to know if the outcome was typical, or was it me being a stellar driver.

Facts: Race= 1/8 mile: I drive M6 02 WS6 w/ SLP air lid; He drives 6.0 GTO LS2 Automatic -- I won by about 2 car lengths. ( I just confirmed w/ my brother, a "car length is bumper to bumper. .meaning if his nose was at my rear bumper I had 1 length with that being said I had easily 2 car lengths on him.)

My question was -- was that the likely outcome. Or did I "outdrive" him.?

Seems like some people say the outcome sounds right, some say He had to be "an idiot" or burned his tires all thru first for me to win.

So which is it?

What does Motor Trend say,, their numbers are usually pretty fair I think?

**Too Fast** · 07-10-2007, 02:35 AM

I have always thought that MT numbers were optimistic. They use a correction factor. Have you ever read the corrections in HP Pontiac? They take one of the drivers best runs and then "correct" it to perfect weather and sea level. Amazing how much the numbers "improve":
2 examples:
13.89 @ 99.72 to "13.22 @ 104.77" ('01 Grand Am GT,supercharged)
11.73 @ 114.58 to "11.17 @ 120.38" (455 '69 Firebird)
I prefer to see what they actually do. I think 4.7 to 60 MPH is optimistic, to say the least, for the '05 GTO.
I would say you did a good drive on him, but he may have caught you by the end of a 1/4.

**kyemt** · 07-10-2007, 05:32 AM

this website has a good list of 0-60 times

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

and i think its just a drivers race, i never owned a ls1 f-body, but my gto is so much quicker and stronger than my lt1 T/A

**LS2Tuner** · 07-10-2007, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by kyemt

this website has a good list of 0-60 times

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

and i think its just a drivers race, i never owned a ls1 f-body, but my gto is so much quicker and stronger than my lt1 T/A

Great link! Thanks

Yeah Lt1's can't get out of their own way.