auto vs manual

**Evil Goat** · 03-06-2007, 08:42 PM

i have an auto tran on my 04 gto and i wonder if i had a manual would i be alot faster....wut can i do to my auto tran

**99blueZ** · 03-06-2007, 08:48 PM

stock vs. stock a manual will be faster in most cases, but thats always a huge debate.

But when modified no one can deny that an auto is faster. You should put a shift kit in your car, a stall, and maybe a trans cooler. Then you should be set. Will be a night and day difference.

**Evil Goat** · 03-06-2007, 08:54 PM

whats a stall and were would be the best place to get them at ....gear ratio is mine good

**99blueZ** · 03-06-2007, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Evil Goat

whats a stall and were would be the best place to get them at ....gear ratio is mine good

our site sponsors sell them. such as thunder racing - i really like them. I'm a manual guy so go check out the automatic part of the drivetrain section for more help on that. But you already have one from the factory its just not a very performance oriented one. I think your rear gears are 3.46 which is pretty good, but can be upgraded.

**djvaly** · 03-06-2007, 09:06 PM

check the car specs on the side of the driver's door should be a sheet with codes, one will tell you which gear ratio u got, GU3=2.73 and GU5=3.23 for auto, at least that's GM codes for LS1... so then upgrade ro 3.73 gears and 3000-3200 stall. or more if you go to drag strip a lot 3400-3600 stall.

**djvaly** · 03-06-2007, 09:07 PM

welcome to LS1.com btw

, take you're time to search the forums per topics and within a few weeks of reading the tech threads you should be pretty informed on the basics at least.

**99blueZ** · 03-06-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by djvaly

check the car specs on the side of the driver's door should be a sheet with codes, one will tell you which gear ratio u got, GU3=2.73 and GU5=3.23 for auto, at least that's GM codes for LS1... so then upgrade ro 3.73 gears and 3000-3200 stall. or more if you go to drag strip a lot 3400-3600 stall.

yea but different gears in the GTO

**djvaly** · 03-07-2007, 05:32 AM

really. hmmm then SS and WS6 follow the same...

ls1 gto not the same as ss and ws6 in gears... ok.

**third_shift|studios** · 03-07-2007, 06:27 AM

DJ: goats have independant rear suspension like vettes.

**GOT1GOAT** · 03-07-2007, 07:18 AM

Also get a handheld tuner and tune out torque management and you can tighten up and change your shift points.

**Tide** · 03-07-2007, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Evil Goat

i have an auto tran on my 04 gto and i wonder if i had a manual would i be alot faster....wut can i do to my auto tran

A manual wouldn't be 'alot' faster.

In the hands of an 'average' driver, both cars being equal, the auto would be quicker.

It's not as if your car is slow........

**djvaly** · 03-07-2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

DJ: goats have independant rear suspension like vettes.

goats are fat

**Tide** · 03-07-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by djvaly

goats are fat

Heh.

Can't carry two adults in rear a/c'd comfort in the back of a 'Vette either :P

**2000silvervette** · 04-05-2007, 03:13 PM

I know on the vetts, and I'm sure it's the same for the goat the m6 is .3 seconds faster, and in the hands of an above average driver (which we all think we are) m6 is best. Plus it gets better hwy. mpg, and is alot better road racing. If they put the vettes new A6, that would be alot closer. If your just drag racing the moddified auto is the hands done best choice.

**99hoss** · 04-05-2007, 08:17 PM

Manuals impress high school kids...Automatics win races.

**Speedy_Gonzales** · 04-05-2007, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by 99hoss

Manuals impress high school kids...Automatics win races.

+1

**GTO1_OHIO** · 04-06-2007, 06:08 PM

Autos are faster and some autos are faster then others.

**LS2Tuner** · 04-06-2007, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Evil Goat

i have an auto tran on my 04 gto and i wonder if i had a manual would i be alot faster....wut can i do to my auto tran

Take it to a Good tuner and get them to boost up the line pressure and turn off your tq. management which willn make a HUGE difference!! And it will make it more fun to drive. Yes a stall will make it quicker...... But there are LOTS of other mods I would do first! You can go LOW 11's with your stock convertor.

Your looking at .2-.4 tenths difference on A4/M6 depending on drivers.

**GTO1_OHIO** · 04-07-2007, 06:27 AM

Increasing or decreasing the line pressure on a OEM tranny is the quickest way to burning up a clutch pack.

**sercastiK** · 04-08-2007, 10:18 AM

GTO in reality is not all that much heavier than a full tilt loaded F Body. put a TCI 3500 in your car, Leave the gears alone because they are super expensive to do and not necessary. I guarentee you with a stall you will fry tires!