Firearms people enter

**grandkodiak** · 02-12-2006, 05:10 PM

What does it mean exactly when a gun is advertised as a "preban" model? If something is banned, doesnt it mean all models of all years are banned? I'm jsut not getting something...

**mcamp001** · 02-12-2006, 05:15 PM

it means if you have something before it was banned, you can still have it but it's sometimes referred to as 'preban'

**Modulistic** · 02-12-2006, 05:40 PM

preban was an off-limit weapon constructed before the ban went into effect. it was therefore OK to trade the gun DURING the ban. now, the ban is gone, and they are all the same.

inother words if you HAD to have an ak47 with bayonet, high cap mag, pistol grip, flashsuppresor, etc.. during the ban, you had to buy a preban gun.

**grandkodiak** · 02-12-2006, 07:12 PM

I understand that if you already owned it its ok... but how do they justify selling it to a new owner after it has been banned? i'm still missing something... are "preban" weapons for sale technically illegal or something?

**91Z28** · 02-12-2006, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by grandkodiak

I understand that if you already owned it its ok... but how do they justify selling it to a new owner after it has been banned? i'm still missing something... are "preban" weapons for sale technically illegal or something?

No, during the ban all guns before the ban were legal, and would always remain so.

**grandkodiak** · 02-12-2006, 07:17 PM

wierd. so i guess someone decided that no NEW guns of the spec shoudl be built, but the ones that are out there already are fair game?

**91Z28** · 02-12-2006, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by grandkodiak

wierd. so i guess someone decided that no NEW guns of the spec shoudl be built, but the ones that are out there already are fair game?

Yes. The other alternative would be to go door to door rounding up the "banned" weapons. Forced disarmament is not a good thing, that is why whenever there is a ban that pre-ban weapons will always remain legal.

**grandkodiak** · 02-12-2006, 08:18 PM

gotcha, thanks for clearin things up... odd shit like that bothers me until i find the answer... now phase 2.... get me one

**anewconvert** · 02-12-2006, 08:59 PM

LOL. good luck. IIRC NJ doesnt allow the sale of pre-ban weapons.

BC

**grandkodiak** · 02-12-2006, 09:26 PM

Is this considered preban?

**whoa guy** · 02-12-2006, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by grandkodiak

Is this considered preban?

thats just considered insane!!!

**got-a-ls1** · 02-12-2006, 10:36 PM

just like you can buy a machine gun made before 1986. Just need to get a 200 dolar tax stamp and approval from the cheif of police or sheriff

**jking** · 02-13-2006, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by got-a-ls1

just like you can buy a machine gun made before 1986. Just need to get a 200 dolar tax stamp and approval from the cheif of police or sheriff

I did that with my M4.

The thing is that it's not so much approval with the law as it is notification.

If you pass a background check, they have to sign off on it.

**BillyT** · 02-13-2006, 03:43 PM

Just remember that regardless of the expiration of the federal Ban, that some states still have their own bans in effect, such as NJ and CA.

**Bowtie Guy** · 02-13-2006, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by grandkodiak

wierd. so i guess someone decided that no NEW guns of the spec shoudl be built, but the ones that are out there already are fair game?

That would be Bill Clinton.

**whoa guy** · 02-13-2006, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by BillyT

Just remember that regardless of the expiration of the federal Ban, that some states still have their own bans in effect, such as NJ and CA.

If you threw in MA, you'd have a trifecta of super gayness!

**BillyT** · 02-13-2006, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by whoa guy

If you threw in MA, you'd have a trifecta of super gayness!

I dunno dude. Trifecta is a pretty gay word.

**whoa guy** · 02-13-2006, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by BillyT

I dunno dude. Trifecta is a pretty gay word.

thought it would be a befitting word... i was right!

**91Z28** · 02-13-2006, 05:56 PM

How can you forget NY?

**whoa guy** · 02-13-2006, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by 91Z28

How can you forget NY?

NO! it cannot be part of the Trifecta of Super Gayness. It does almost qualify however.. actually, because of Hillary Clinton, its the Gay Overlord of the Trifecta of Super Gayness. Touche 91z28.. touche.....