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Z28_06374
10-03-2008, 08:20 PM
So I was on the highway coming home from the track when I see a wrx or a sti it was hard to tell it had no badges or wing just a carbon trunk and hood. I dropped down to 60-65 then he started beeping, I beat him pretty easy the 1st time by 2-3 cars maybe. The second run at the same speed, he was right at my door and was slowly creeping away until we shut down at 125. Sad thing was he had 4 people in the car! :( Not sure if he had a boost controller, nitrous or what? :thinkin:
95camaroZNC
10-03-2008, 10:04 PM
That sounds like nitrous for what you say your car runs, def not a stock car by any means with 4 people in the car.
4tun8
10-04-2008, 03:44 AM
Uh probably not nitrous.........probably a big turbo.
Sleeper101
10-04-2008, 06:08 AM
Im not sure That I have ever seen Nitrous on a WRX, If Nitrous is installed on a turbo car it usually is used to help build boost off the line to keep it from bogging then turned off once the turbo is spooled, Even if he had Nitrous on the car I Doubt he was spraying it at 65mph, Im sure he prob just caught it in a better power band the last time. And It was Prob a big turbo installed.
buswwa
10-04-2008, 01:34 PM
Where abouts in CT are you? I think he works at the dealership with me.
95camaroZNC
10-04-2008, 03:46 PM
I was just guessing as to what it might be, dont really keep up with turbo cars all that often inless it has a Porsche emblem on it.... sorry:nana:
Z28_06374
10-05-2008, 10:09 AM
Where abouts in CT are you? I think he works at the dealership with me.



This happened in NH, I live in Putnum, CT. Now that I see a couple other wrx's on the road I think it might of been a EVO, it had a reflector or blinker on the front fender. Im sure from a dig I would of got the jump on him were weight makes more of a difference.
4tun8
10-05-2008, 01:01 PM
Yeah but from a dig he has the AWD advantage.
Z28_06374
10-05-2008, 01:12 PM
Yeah but from a dig he has the AWD advantage.


Thats true, I was doing some research on the evo's, they definitly run strong with minimal mods. :giveup:
Wesman
10-07-2008, 02:35 PM
Yeah but from a dig he has the AWD advantage.

If he launches the hell out of it. If not, its a disadvantage, because you can't get any controlled wheel spin, just hook up and it bogs down. Not everyone likes frying their clutches to get off the line quickly, and Evo/STI clutches are expensive and a miserable job to do.
4tun8
10-08-2008, 02:53 PM
I leave the line at 6500rpm and you can't smell one bit of clutch. As previously mentioned stick to things you have first hand knowledge of. Thanks in advance.
rc74racer
10-08-2008, 06:23 PM
I leave the line at 6500rpm and you can't smell one bit of clutch. As previously mentioned stick to things you have first hand knowledge of. Thanks in advance.

Are you doing that on a stock clutch?
Electric
10-08-2008, 07:02 PM
Are you doing that on a stock clutch?

When I had my EVO I usually launched at around 5500rpm with the stock clutch, and around 6000 with my aftermarket one. Stock clutch lasted me 52k miles too. If you know how to properly launch an AWD car, its easy as pie and the clutch should last a long time. If you are a newb and are beating a moron, you can kill it in days.
4tun8
10-08-2008, 09:11 PM
Are you doing that on a stock clutch?

As mentioned above I used to launch the stocker at 5-6k. Lasted to 37k. That's with like 100 launches on it.
axxdet
10-09-2008, 01:21 AM
yeah he must had a bigger turbo put in because there not that badass stock, I smoked one on the highway and I let him get about 4 cars on me, wasn't on purpose he jumped I delayed and still reeled him in, it was an sti
Z28_06374
10-09-2008, 04:19 AM
A4's suck for roll racing anyways.... :yup:
Wesman
10-09-2008, 10:11 AM
I leave the line at 6500rpm and you can't smell one bit of clutch. As previously mentioned stick to things you have first hand knowledge of. Thanks in advance.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but your post doesn't add up.

Your engine is turning 6500RPM. Your wheels are turning zero RPM. The car is AWD, so the tires won't break lose the same way a RWD or FWD car would.

Something has to absorb the difference between the engine turning 6500RPM and the wheels turning 0 RPM. Guess what, its your clutch. Every time you do that you are frying and severely wearing the clutch. Its common sense, there is no way around it, nothing else in the drivetrain is going to absorb that kind of RPM difference.

Its like saying going 150MPH to zero in a full out stop doesn't fry the brake pads. You'd be stupid to argue that.
Eric1987
10-09-2008, 11:52 AM
As mentioned above I used to launch the stocker at 5-6k. Lasted to 37k. That's with like 100 launches on it.

Only lasted to 37k? Wow you fucked that shit up.
N20LT4
10-09-2008, 12:08 PM
A4's suck for roll racing anyways.... :yup:

Depends on what the setup is. My A4 car will hold it's own on the highway at any speed, and has so against many MN6 cars. Besides, nothing is as weak on the highway as an Evo or STI. If it wasn't for AWD......
rc74racer
10-09-2008, 01:56 PM
As mentioned above I used to launch the stocker at 5-6k. Lasted to 37k. That's with like 100 launches on it.

Ok. The only reason I ask is because I'm considering an EVO as my DD and was curious if the stock clutch would take it.
Daz-E
10-09-2008, 02:26 PM
Gas mileage sucks in both the STi and Evo !
4tun8
10-09-2008, 03:26 PM
Maybe I'm missing something here, but your post doesn't add up.

Your engine is turning 6500RPM. Your wheels are turning zero RPM. The car is AWD, so the tires won't break lose the same way a RWD or FWD car would.

Something has to absorb the difference between the engine turning 6500RPM and the wheels turning 0 RPM. Guess what, its your clutch. Every time you do that you are frying and severely wearing the clutch. Its common sense, there is no way around it, nothing else in the drivetrain is going to absorb that kind of RPM difference.

Its like saying going 150MPH to zero in a full out stop doesn't fry the brake pads. You'd be stupid to argue that.


ACT street disk. When you learn how to launch you won't smell clutch. Not to say that it doesn't wear it but you won't burn it or glaze it.
axxdet
10-09-2008, 03:54 PM
Gas mileage sucks in both the STi and Evo !

sucks as in worse than 20mpg
4tun8
10-09-2008, 04:44 PM
around 22 for the evo.
big hammer
10-09-2008, 05:15 PM
around 22 for the evo.

average?
Daz-E
10-09-2008, 07:06 PM
Mixed driving around 19-21. Best I got hwy was 26.
big hammer
10-09-2008, 07:47 PM
Mixed driving around 19-21. Best I got hwy was 26.

man... that's not terrible... but i figured it would be better for a 4 banger... my ls1 does at least that much.
Daz-E
10-09-2008, 07:57 PM
I was stage 2. I commute 1hr to work . Premium fuel only in STi's/Evo's in Cali meant I couldn't afford to put gas in this car every other day for long so it got sold in january to help with bills and so i can buy a commuter car that got good gas mileage. Ideally I wanted to keep it cause it was an awesome car to play around with but finances just would not permit owning 4 cars and fueling/insuring 3 of them(camaro is still a shell right now).

If I somehow got the money(18-20K) to buy one again I would probably put it into my Camaro. I now drive an 86' CRX to and from work, it gets 40-46 mpg and I only paid $500 for it. So now I can put money towards the Camaro.
Wesman
10-13-2008, 11:54 AM
sucks as in worse than 20mpg

My friend averages 17MPG in his STI, and thats combined city/highway.
jsteele90
10-13-2008, 03:40 PM
thats about what i get
Sleeper101
10-13-2008, 05:55 PM
HAHA Looks like HONDA STILL WINS THE mpg BATTLE LOL
Wesman
10-13-2008, 08:23 PM
HAHA Looks like HONDA STILL WINS THE mpg BATTLE LOL

The regular Civic and Fit get good fuel economy, but their claimed "high performance" cars fare much worse. Both the Civic Si and S2000 get quite shitty fuel economy for only being 2.0/2.2L 4 cylinder engines, about the same as what our LS motors get.