4 civic's, 1 turblowed..

[bamaz28]

i was heading to the drag strip and came up on 4 civic's cruising about 65 down the interstate. i didnt think nothing just rolled by running maybe 75.
well as i come up on the lead loser he pulls with me. its a pos orange lookin thing had a roll cage in it. well i push alittle harder he still right beside me. he revs ha ha, i hear the turbo spool up. im alittle worried now, so i drop to third and leave him he jumps on my ass about half a car length on him now. he hung with me till 120mph, i never let off til 140 or so. i slow back down and they finally catch back up. he gets beside me again so i hurt his feelings again, the turbo is screaming and i walk off and leave his ass again. so i slow back down, all of them come by with there heads hung out the windows staring. what i bunch of idiots picking on a camaro

[Boomer Sooner]

they must like being embarrassed.

[big hammer]

civics suck

[01ws6er]

Damn, he hung with u till 120!?!?!?!? I was out putting some miles on the car to get the cpu ready for inspection and stopped for gas and noticed this ugly ass new Civic Si with black wheels and a HUGE (stock style) wing. I leave and about 5 min later he catches back up to me and starts pacing me. Then he revs at me and I hear a little turbo spool up and I tried to ignore him but he did it again, so I gave him a 5 grander. Guy made the next right lol...:giveup:

[adam3566]

Damn, he hung with u till 120!?!?!?!? I was out putting some miles on the car to get the cpu ready for inspection and stopped for gas and noticed this ugly ass new Civic Si with black wheels and a HUGE (stock style) wing. I leave and about 5 min later he catches back up to me and starts pacing me. Then he revs at me and I hear a little turbo spool up and I tried to ignore him but he did it again, so I gave him a 5 grander. Guy made the next right lol...:giveup:

That's probably the first ever turboed civic si then, because only ones i have seen have been supercharged...

[bamaz28]

they are something else, i mean why would you even think you could run with a ls1 to begin with. and in a civic please...

[4tun8]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Quicksurje-1180-12391_185675.htm?ref=d18834e0-d711-48fd-9304-9816014ef628


My friend and fellow Surje member. He's honestly about middle of the pack as far as ET/MPH. Car is full weight, full interior.


Also our all motor CRX runs like.......12.3 or 12.4 I can't remember. All motor, full weight, full interior, no power adders. Yup civics suck.

[adam3566]

they are something else, i mean why would you even think you could run with a ls1 to begin with. and in a civic please...

Wow you are a complete sounding fool. It's people like you that gives people the idea that most T/A or camaro owners are hicks and idiots. The ls1 is a decent motor, but it's far from a awesome motor. I deffinitly don't have mine anymore.

[N20LT4]

Wow you are a complete sounding fool. It's people like you that gives people the idea that most T/A or camaro owners are hicks and idiots. The ls1 is a decent motor, but it's far from a awesome motor. I deffinitly don't have mine anymore.

Wow, who really sounds like the fool?

The LS1 was phenomenal for its time.

[jknelms]

Wow you are a complete sounding fool. It's people like you that gives people the idea that most T/A or camaro owners are hicks and idiots. The ls1 is a decent motor, but it's far from a awesome motor. I deffinitly don't have mine anymore.

what's an awesome engine to you then?

[JwMonE99]

what's an awesome engine to you then?

B18 with a turbo....

[adam3566]

what's an awesome engine to you then?

383, 6.0 ls2 or lq9,ls3,427,ram jet 502, 408.

[adam3566]

B18 with a turbo....

I hope your joking.....

[N20LT4]

383, 6.0 ls2 or lq9,ls3,427,ram jet 502, 408.

Funny you named basically everything from the LSx family (with the exception of the Ram-Jet), EXCEPT the LS1. Did you mean 383 or 408 LS1 strokers perhaps?

And why not go ahead and throw the LS6 of 2001-2004 in there? It qualifies for awesome in my book. :yup:

[4tun8]

4g63 and 2jzGTE I'll add to the list of awesome motors.

[N20LT4]

4g63 and 2jzGTE I'll add to the list of awesome motors.

No thanks. I'm sure you can find some import-based forum to add those to. :D

[4tun8]

Oh noes! I frogots teh LSX is teh best.

[01ws6er]

That's probably the first ever turboed civic si then, because only ones i have seen have been supercharged...

Definately a turbo in this one. I know the difference in sound...

[jknelms]

Funny you named basically everything from the LSx family (with the exception of the Ram-Jet), EXCEPT the LS1. Did you mean 383 or 408 LS1 strokers perhaps?

And why not go ahead and throw the LS6 of 2001-2004 in there? It qualifies for awesome in my book. :yup:

I don't think he likes 3rd gen LS engines (LS1, LS6), only 4th gen LS Engines.

[jknelms]

Oh noes! I frogots teh LSX is teh best.

i know you're being sarcastic, but i do think the LSx is a great engine for the price. the best engine? probably not.

[N20LT4]

Oh noes! I frogots teh LSX is teh best.

Well atleast you've gotten one thing right! :)

[adam3566]

I don't think he likes 3rd gen LS engines (LS1, LS6), only 4th gen LS Engines.

ding ding ding, i'm glad your the only one that could figure that out

[big hammer]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Quicksurje-1180-12391_185675.htm?ref=d18834e0-d711-48fd-9304-9816014ef628


My friend and fellow Surje member. He's honestly about middle of the pack as far as ET/MPH. Car is full weight, full interior.


Also our all motor CRX runs like.......12.3 or 12.4 I can't remember. All motor, full weight, full interior, no power adders. Yup civics suck.

yet the rest of the car is a complete shitbox. i'll throw a 25hp briggs an stratton on a radio flier and fuck it'll run 12's and be the coolest thing on the road!

[bamaz28]

This is just amazing

[jknelms]

ding ding ding, i'm glad your the only one that could figure that out

i'm good at those "one of these things are not like the other" games. haha.

the 4th gen did have slightly greater improvements over 3rd gen (d.o.d., vvt)... but what will the 5th gen be like?

[Justin93]

4g63 and 2jzGTE I'll add to the list of awesome motors.

I'd agree with the 2jzGTE I love inlines! But the LSX motor is my first love.

[wooddaniel]

Wow you are a complete sounding fool. It's people like you that gives people the idea that most T/A or camaro owners are hicks and idiots. The ls1 is a decent motor, but it's far from a awesome motor. I deffinitly don't have mine anymore.

It's definitely not deffinitly. Also the correct thing to say would have been "you sound like a complete fool" not "you are a complete sounding fool." That doesn't make any sense. Third, the LS2 is basically the same as an LS1; just with a different cam and better flowing heads. I don't understand how you can say that the LS1 is not an awesome motor but the LS2 is... You can do a lot of different things with an LS1; it's also one of the most durable motors when maintained. Just like the LT1 from 93-97.

[Justin93]

I can't believe how Butt hurt Some of you Import guys get sometimes. Someone can't even mention beating an Import on here without some DH givning him a hard time!

Sure some Imports are fast(IE Evo, Supra, Z,STI) however their is a overwhelming majority of Econo cars that have nothing more than a body kit and rims and think that they are fast and furious. Yea Im sure some damn B18 pushing 20 psi of boost will kick my ls1's ass, As will a LS1 with a rear mount pushing 10 PSI!!!! Im sick of seeing this shit all the Time. It wasn't like the OP was a total Douche about it. Bottom line don't let it bug you, and if it does go back to your own import forums then.

P.S. My winter ride is a 97 eclipse gsx and Ill admit its not slow by any means!!! Its still not LSX fast!!!

[Justin93]

:lmao:yet the rest of the car is a complete shitbox. i'll throw a 25hp briggs an stratton on a radio flier and fuck it'll run 12's and be the coolest thing on the road!


:lmao:

Thats Just Fuckin hilarious I dont care who you are LOL!!!

[Wesman]

4g63 and 2jzGTE I'll add to the list of awesome motors.

Why do you always have to bring that crap in here?? Its like you're trying to start an arguement every time you post.

Examples of awesome motors would be entire LSX series, Cobra 4.6 S/C, Dodge 6.1 Hemi, ect. Mitsubishi and Toyota are not anywhere near the list.

[Wesman]

yet the rest of the car is a complete shitbox. i'll throw a 25hp briggs an stratton on a radio flier and fuck it'll run 12's and be the coolest thing on the road!

lol true. Making a Civic fast is pointless. Anyone can go fast when the damn vehicle weighs as much as a gocart.

[N20LT4]

lol true. Making a Civic fast is pointless. Anyone can go fast when the damn vehicle weighs as much as a gocart.

LOL. :spit:

[4tun8]

LOL such shoddy arguments. What's the fastest ET with an LSX series motor? 4g63 is in the 6s (just a 4 banger buddy) and 2jzGTE is probably right around there (I'm not an avid supra fan but it is an extremely stout motor).


I imagine that there are LSX's running faster then 6s but I'm curious how close the little mitsubishi is.


Supra motors are retarded I envy them so much, you look at them sideways and they gain power.

If I'm picking american muscle then I pick what ever that Nelson racing engine that was in the Nelson video hahah. That car was insane. 2000hp? Yes please.

[4tun8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t65VypaaRJU

????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6RiTu7OrhE&feature=related




Damn I guess mitsu aint half bad =)



Titan's Supra runs 6.6s.

[big hammer]

^^ awe poor sucky boo boo somebody made fun of the rice now he's sad!

[4tun8]

I can't believe how Butt hurt Some of you Import guys get sometimes. Someone can't even mention beating an Import on here without some DH givning him a hard time!

Sure some Imports are fast(IE Evo, Supra, Z,STI) however their is a overwhelming majority of Econo cars that have nothing more than a body kit and rims and think that they are fast and furious. Yea Im sure some damn B18 pushing 20 psi of boost will kick my ls1's ass, As will a LS1 with a rear mount pushing 10 PSI!!!! Im sick of seeing this shit all the Time. It wasn't like the OP was a total Douche about it. Bottom line don't let it bug you, and if it does go back to your own import forums then.

P.S. My winter ride is a 97 eclipse gsx and Ill admit its not slow by any means!!! Its still not LSX fast!!!




Who the hell was bugged about anything? I made nothing but calm and rational statements lol. I love how everyone pulls the "You're butthurt" comments out when I make valid points to back up my claims.


I've been here for like 2 years I'm not going anywhere, nor will anyone "force" me to outside of me being banned. Since I very very rarely break the rules here I doubt I'll be leaving.


Thanks for playing.

[4tun8]

^^ awe poor sucky boo boo somebody made fun of the rice now he's sad!

Yes making valid argument points is definitely a sign of weakness. "Boo Hoo" what's next? Are you going to take your ball and go home?

[Wesman]

Holy shit enough with the Mitsubishi nut swinging...you just don't get it, NOBODY CARES.

You're hijacking the entire thread with this crap, wow, a 4 cylinder ran a 6.9. Lets all go buy Mitsubishis because someone was dumb enough to invest enough money into the engine to make it that fast.

Bottom line is the LSX will make more power than any Mitsubishi in the world, dollar for dollar, pound of boost for pound of boost, however you want to put it. All things being equal, a 5.7 is going to make more power than a 2.0. Its common sense. Not to mention the LSX is a much better design, a hell of a lot stronger and more durable, has an infinitely better power curve, and won't make your ears bleed from the exhaust note like the mitsubishi will.

[big hammer]

Yes making valid argument points is definitely a sign of weakness. "Boo Hoo" what's next? Are you going to take your ball and go home?

sure, as long as you keep posting vids of what OTHER people have done, trying to make their useless shitboxes fast by spending wayyyy to much money on a piece of rice trying to make it fast, furious and cool.

[adam3566]

Holy shit enough with the Mitsubishi nut swinging...you just don't get it, NOBODY CARES.

You're hijacking the entire thread with this crap, wow, a 4 cylinder ran a 6.9. Lets all go buy Mitsubishis because someone was dumb enough to invest enough money into the engine to make it that fast.

Don't agree with that one bit. Have you ever done research or heard about the ecotec motors from GM? Little hint, look up the bonneville salt flats and you'll see tons of guys running them so called crap motors way past 200. Why because there stout motors. I obviously don't own a 4 cyl, but I can appreciate what they are deffinitly capable of.

[01ws6er]

:nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly: :nilly:

[Wesman]

Don't agree with that one bit. Have you ever done research or heard about the ecotec motors from GM? Little hint, look up the bonneville salt flats and you'll see tons of guys running them so called crap motors way past 200. Why because there stout motors. I obviously don't own a 4 cyl, but I can appreciate what they are deffinitly capable of.


You obviously don't get it.

5.7 > 2.0.

All other variables held equal (modifications, boost, ect) the larger motor will ALWAYS make more power. Yes, the GM Ecotec motors are impressive, they are very stout. The new Cobalt SS is nice, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy one if my ultimate goal was pure speed. Its just not reasonable.

One thing GM definitely did right with the new LNF motor is the power curve. Instead if having the turbo spool around 3500RPM (like japanese cars), the car makes peak torque at a mere 2,000RPM - so its more more driveable and torquey on the low end.

[Wesman]

sure, as long as you keep posting vids of what OTHER people have done, trying to make their useless shitboxes fast by spending wayyyy to much money on a piece of rice trying to make it fast, furious and cool.

Come on Big Hammer...you know you can't get much cooler than owning a Mitsubishi lancer evolution. Every high school riceboy's dream vehicle :haha:

[adam3566]

You obviously don't get it.

5.7 > 2.0.

All other variables held equal (modifications, boost, ect) the larger motor will ALWAYS make more power. Yes, the GM Ecotec motors are impressive, they are very stout. The new Cobalt SS is nice, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy one if my ultimate goal was pure speed. Its just not reasonable.

One thing GM definitely did right with the new LNF motor is the power curve. Instead if having the turbo spool around 3500RPM (like japanese cars), the car makes peak torque at a mere 2,000RPM - so its more more driveable and torquey on the low end.


Lol I don't get it? Please I have more money invested in my T/A and vette alone than your house is worth probably. Before you open your mouth and even talk again look up some facts about the 2.0 and top speed. I will even help you get your head out of your ass tomorrow when I have time.

[Wesman]

Lol I don't get it? Please I know more money invested in my T/A and vette alone than your house is worth probably. Before you open your mouth and even talk again look up some facts about the 2.0 and top speed. I will even help you get your head out of your ass tomorrow when I have time.

I hate to break it to you, but a one-off Bonneville salt flats car is not the same as a production vehicle. No street driven Cobalt SS with the 2.0 will ever go that fast.

I already said its a good motor and its very capable for what it is. But you'd be a fool to buy a Cobalt SS for drag racing, there are just better vehicles for that purpose.

[adam3566]

You obviously don't get it.

5.7 > 2.0.

All other variables held equal (modifications, boost, ect) the larger motor will ALWAYS make more power. Yes, the GM Ecotec motors are impressive, they are very stout. The new Cobalt SS is nice, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy one if my ultimate goal was pure speed. Its just not reasonable.

One thing GM definitely did right with the new LNF motor is the power curve. Instead if having the turbo spool around 3500RPM (like japanese cars), the car makes peak torque at a mere 2,000RPM - so its more more driveable and torquey on the low end.

Heres some information that should keep you quiet. http://www.ecotecpower.com/gallery/gallery.php?eid=693

[adam3566]

I hate to break it to you, but a one-off Bonneville salt flats car is not the same as a production vehicle. No street driven Cobalt SS with the 2.0 will ever go that fast.

I already said its a good motor and its very capable for what it is. But you'd be a fool to buy a Cobalt SS for drag racing, there are just better vehicles for that purpose.

When did I ever say a cobalt ss NEVER! Every vehicle is basically a one off, depending on what you do it. A nicely built ecotec running E85 or meth is an awesome car. Oh btw in the article is a cobalt SS granted it's not stock but it's still a cobalt SS

[Wesman]

When did I ever say a cobalt ss NEVER! Every vehicle is basically a one off, depending on what you do it. A nicely built ecotec running E85 or meth is an awesome car. Oh btw in the article is a cobalt SS granted it's not stock but it's still a cobalt SS

No kidding. Now stop trying to argue with me about something that I'm not trying to argue with you about...

[adam3566]

No kidding. Now stop trying to argue with me about something that I'm not trying to argue with you about...

Why because I put you in your place and made you look like a complete fool. Ever thread I go into with you in it, you have a complete hard on for a the ls1. It's not the best motor even close, hate to break it to you. So I will quit breaking your balls if you quit being ignorant.

[squee]

It's definitely not deffinitly. Also the correct thing to say would have been "you sound like a complete fool" not "you are a complete sounding fool." That doesn't make any sense. Third, the LS2 is basically the same as an LS1; just with a different cam and better flowing heads. I don't understand how you can say that the LS1 is not an awesome motor but the LS2 is... You can do a lot of different things with an LS1; it's also one of the most durable motors when maintained. Just like the LT1 from 93-97.

Actually, the LS1 and 2 are very different. The entire block is different, so I can see someone liking the LS2 much more so than the LS1. Its a larger, more stout, more powerful engine, with numerous differences.


Sure some Imports are fast(IE Evo, Supra, Z,STI) however their is a overwhelming majority of Econo cars that have nothing more than a body kit and rims and think that they are fast and furious. Yea Im sure some damn B18 pushing 20 psi of boost will kick my ls1's ass, As will a LS1 with a rear mount pushing 10 PSI!!!! Im sick of seeing this shit all the Time. It wasn't like the OP was a total Douche about it. Bottom line don't let it bug you, and if it does go back to your own import forums then.

P.S. My winter ride is a 97 eclipse gsx and Ill admit its not slow by any means!!! Its still not LSX fast!!!

More like 5lbs of boost. My car makes 500 at the wheels on only 5lbs and is damn near stock. MUCH better than some overboosted B18 bullshit.

Examples of awesome motors would be entire LSX series, Cobra 4.6 S/C, Dodge 6.1 Hemi, ect. Mitsubishi and Toyota are not anywhere near the list.

I'm as big a GM fan as anybody (hell, I refuse to even ride in a Ford), but the 2JZ engine is amazing. The Supra was a VERY impressive car for '93. Hell, they pulled a .95 on the skidpad, which, at the time was more than a Corvette I believe. Anyway, I'm just saying, its a VERY capable motor and isn't some shitbox 2.0L VTEC shit, and it is infact a awesome motor. In my book, better than the Modular S/C, Hemi, and very close with the LSx's.

[adam3566]

I'm as big a GM fan as anybody (hell, I refuse to even ride in a Ford), but the 2JZ engine is amazing. The Supra was a VERY impressive car for '93. Hell, they pulled a .95 on the skidpad, which, at the time was more than a Corvette I believe. Anyway, I'm just saying, its a VERY capable motor and isn't some shitbox 2.0L VTEC shit, and it is infact a awesome motor. In my book, better than the Modular S/C, Hemi, and very close with the LSx's.

I know your not comparing a 2JZ to a normal lsx motor, because if you hard you need to be slapped hard jr. A 2.0 VTEC motor is shit? Please it is an amazing motor. Remind me again who had the first motor over a 100hp per liter? Oh that's right a honda motor.

[Wesman]

I'm as big a GM fan as anybody (hell, I refuse to even ride in a Ford), but the 2JZ engine is amazing. The Supra was a VERY impressive car for '93. Hell, they pulled a .95 on the skidpad, which, at the time was more than a Corvette I believe. Anyway, I'm just saying, its a VERY capable motor and isn't some shitbox 2.0L VTEC shit, and it is infact a awesome motor. In my book, better than the Modular S/C, Hemi, and very close with the LSx's.

What is your reasoning?? Personally I think its worthless. Once you start modifying them for power, they become completely undriveable. You're either bogging down or burning the tires off the car. Hence why Supras have the reputation for being dyno queens. 600,700,800+WHP is useless if you can't actually put it to the ground. Making that kind of power, the motor is like an on/off switch, and the chassis can't handle he power to begin with. So you end up with a useless dyno queen.

The Ford 4.6 S/C is a much more capable engine than the 2JZ, it will hold more power, and it can actually put the power to the ground. Why anyone would want a gutless straight 6 over a supercharged V8 is beyond me, I like having low end torque in my vehicle.

[Wesman]

I know your not comparing a 2JZ to a normal lsx motor, because if you hard you need to be slapped hard jr. A 2.0 VTEC motor is shit? Please it is an amazing motor. Remind me again who had the first motor over a 100hp per liter? Oh that's right a honda motor.

HP/Liter is a ricer arguement. It doesn't make the car any faster or better than anything else because it has more "HP/Liter". Its a meaningless calculation invented by riceboys to justify their gutless, underpowered Honda engines, and try to find some meaning in their vehicle's worthless existance.

[squee]

I know your not comparing a 2JZ to a normal lsx motor, because if you hard you need to be slapped hard jr. A 2.0 VTEC motor is shit? Please it is an amazing motor. Remind me again who had the first motor over a 100hp per liter? Oh that's right a honda motor.

Yea, I'm saying the 2JZ is a good motor and is in fact very impressive, even more so than an LS1. When you can get that much power out of a inline 6 cylinder motor, its pretty impressive. And yea, I'm saying EVERY VTEC is shit. All of em...

[adam3566]

HP/Liter is a ricer arguement. It doesn't make the car any faster or better than anything else because it has more "HP/Liter". Its a meaningless calculation invented by riceboys to justify their gutless, underpowered Honda engines, and try to find some meaning in their vehicle's worthless existance.

I understand your a thick headed redneck that has the intelligence of a chimp, but your parents really should have gotten that abortion....

[Wesman]

Why because I put you in your place and made you look like a complete fool. Ever thread I go into with you in it, you have a complete hard on for a the ls1. It's not the best motor even close, hate to break it to you. So I will quit breaking your balls if you quit being ignorant.

LOL you are a joke. You didn't put anyone in their place. You brought up the GM Ecotec engine, which I happen to LIKE, and then proceed to explain to me how it can go fast on the Bonneville Salt flats. No fucking kidding, way to try and tell me things I already know. I like all kinds of engines, not just the LSx series. I just don't like pointless riceburner engines that are gutless and sound like crap.

[squee]

What is your reasoning?? Personally I think its worthless. Once you start modifying them for power, they become completely undriveable. You're either bogging down or burning the tires off the car. Hence why Supras have the reputation for being dyno queens. 600,700,800+WHP is useless if you can't actually put it to the ground. Making that kind of power, the motor is like an on/off switch, and the chassis can't handle he power to begin with. So you end up with a useless dyno queen.

The Ford 4.6 S/C is a much more capable engine than the 2JZ, it will hold more power, and it can actually put the power to the ground. Why anyone would want a gutless straight 6 over a supercharged V8 is beyond me, I like having low end torque in my vehicle.

I'm just saying the motor is impressive. Yea, a Supra with 800hp is more than likely a dyno queen, but the motor is still impressive. Regardless of what its in, but even then, a Supra is still a very good handling and nice car. Granted its not some riced out shitbox.

[Wesman]

I understand your a thick headed redneck that has the intelligence of a chimp, but your parents really should have gotten that abortion....

Now you can't win an arguement, so you resort to this crap. We had a suspicion, but now you've confirmed with everyone that you're a lowlife piece of shit.

Congratulations.

[adam3566]

LOL you are a joke. You didn't put anyone in their place. You brought up the GM Ecotec engine, which I happen to LIKE, and then proceed to explain to me how it can go fast on the Bonneville Salt flats. No fucking kidding, way to try and tell me things I already know. I like all kinds of engines, not just the LSx series. I just don't like pointless riceburner engines that are gutless and sound like crap.

I don't care for rice either, but you telling me all import motors are crap is complete non sense and you know it.

[squee]

I don't care for rice either, but you telling me all import motors are crap is complete non sense and you know it.

I'd say the only decent import motors are a select few Nissan motors (Skyline motors specifically), and the 2JZ. Thats pretty much it...

[Wesman]

I don't care for rice either, but you telling me all import motors are crap is complete non sense and you know it.

I never said all import engines are crap. The Germans make some of the best engines in the world. I just don't like gutless 4/6 cylinder japanese engines that sound like crap, I don't know whats so hard to comprehend.

[adam3566]

I'd say the only decent import motors are a select few Nissan motors (Skyline motors specifically), and the 2JZ. Thats pretty much it...

Please look at the F1 motors they use, I don't care for a ricey sound car either but a honda motor is a very good motor. Granted most have problems putting power they make to the ground, but for being reliable and gas friendly they are awesome motors.

[adam3566]

I never said all import engines are crap. The Germans make some of the best engines in the world. I just don't like gutless 4/6 cylinder japanese engines that sound like crap, I don't know whats so hard to comprehend.

What's hard to comprehend? Sorry but the best argument you have shown me or anyone is your dislike for them with no facts or proof of anything. I think an s2000 going to 9k redline sounds pretty good. May not be the quickest but for stock they sound pretty decent to me. Neighbor has one and there not bad.

[Wesman]

Please look at the F1 motors they use, I don't care for a ricey sound car either but a honda motor is a very good motor. Granted most have problems putting power they make to the ground, but for being reliable and gas friendly they are awesome motors.

They aren't reliable or gas friendly once you build them up with boost, ect. A turbo Honda will be lucky to even hit 20MPG, and reliability is basically a guessing game of when, not if, its going to bite the bullet.

As for S2000's...they sound like shit, IMO. I've heard lawnmowers that sound better than that. Put an exhaust on the car and you'll see what I mean.

[adam3566]

They aren't reliable or gas friendly once you build them up with boost, ect. A turbo Honda will be lucky to even hit 20MPG, and reliability is basically a guessing game of when, not if, its going to bite the bullet.

Idk about that, reading and research I have done has shown guys easily getting 300-400 hp and getting high 20's. Doubt all of them lie, but most will get well into the 20's for city. Only problem is traction and fwd. Hence why most will not run you from a dig. His has a stock exhaust and idk seems nice to me.

[squee]

Idk about that, reading and research I have done has shown guys easily getting 300-400 hp and getting high 20's. Doubt all of them lie, but most will get well into the 20's for city. Only problem is traction and fwd. Hence why most will not run you from a dig. His has a stock exhaust and idk seems nice to me.

Maybe its just me, but I just don't see 300hp impressive. Hell, our cars had that stock, and from what little research I've done, it isn't all that easy to get 300hp out of a Honda.

An impressive car as far as 2.xL engines go is definately the PT Cruiser GT/SRT-4 cars. 500hp isn't very hard with them and for a little PT Cruiser, thats impressive...

[01ws6er]

Holy shit this is still going on...?

[richard head]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t65VypaaRJU

????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6RiTu7OrhE&feature=related




Damn I guess mitsu aint half bad =)



Titan's Supra runs 6.6s.


And there's a whole class of American dragsters that run 3's. There's always a faster car. You don't seem to get the point, which is: WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO GO FAST IN A CIVIC????

If it's your bag, great. Don't expect me to understand though, that's out of line.

[richard head]

What's hard to comprehend? Sorry but the best argument you have shown me or anyone is your dislike for them with no facts or proof of anything. I think an s2000 going to 9k redline sounds pretty good. May not be the quickest but for stock they sound pretty decent to me. Neighbor has one and there not bad.

Listen. His opinion is valid, just like yours. You guys aren't going to agree and the fact that he doesn't have to point by point outline his opinion is just a way he's different from you. We understand your view as much as we're going to be able to and the argument is somewhat unnecessary as there is no right and wrong here; i like my ls1, i have my reasons, and i'm satisfied. See?

[4tun8]

And there's a whole class of American dragsters that run 3's. There's always a faster car. You don't seem to get the point, which is: WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO GO FAST IN A CIVIC????

If it's your bag, great. Don't expect me to understand though, that's out of line.

There are 3 second LS1 powered cars?

[big hammer]

HP/Liter is a ricer arguement. It doesn't make the car any faster or better than anything else because it has more "HP/Liter". Its a meaningless calculation invented by riceboys to justify their gutless, underpowered Honda engines, and try to find some meaning in their vehicle's worthless existance.

another ricer argument is "it'll rev high"... who cares???

and hp\liter.. my snowmobile makes 193 hp\liter on 87 octane... is that good? it's hard to tell from here... and it revs to 8100. ricers dream engine!

[4tun8]

another ricer argument is "it'll rev high"... who cares???

and hp\liter.. my snowmobile makes 193 hp\liter on 87 octane... is that good? it's hard to tell from here... and it revs to 8100. ricers dream engine!


Grats, motorcycle technology, which is in theory the same technology that "RICERS" use. You've just owned yourself.


I could crush every single argument in this thread but as previously shown it's not worth it.

I will say this though, I will say the majority of Wesman's claims are fiction, the rest are opinion. Yet people will read what he writes and think that it's somewhat truth.


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[Justin93]

Who the hell was bugged about anything? I made nothing but calm and rational statements lol. I love how everyone pulls the "You're butthurt" comments out when I make valid points to back up my claims.


I've been here for like 2 years I'm not going anywhere, nor will anyone "force" me to outside of me being banned. Since I very very rarely break the rules here I doubt I'll be leaving.


Thanks for playing.


Dude nobody is forcing you to do anything, however Just remember you are on an LS forum not a Mitsu forum. So with that said Take some of the shit thats said with a grain of salt. Thats Like me going to The Mitsu forum that Im a member on because of my GSX and posting Youtube shit of LSx's tearing the fuck out of Evo's and GSX's and ranting on how LSX is the shit!, Its a little tacky. Thats all! Relax will ya lol

[Justin93]

[QUOTE=I'm as big a GM fan as anybody (hell, I refuse to even ride in a Ford), but the 2JZ engine is amazing. The Supra was a VERY impressive car for '93. Hell, they pulled a .95 on the skidpad, which, at the time was more than a Corvette I believe. Anyway, I'm just saying, its a VERY capable motor and isn't some shitbox 2.0L VTEC shit, and it is infact a awesome motor. In my book, better than the Modular S/C, Hemi, and very close with the LSx's.[/QUOTE]


I couldn't agree with this statement more. I loved the Final Gen supra's. It was a Mean Freaking car. They are in a totaly different league that most of the other Imports Out there!

[Justin93]

I understand your a thick headed redneck that has the intelligence of a chimp, but your parents really should have gotten that abortion....

Wow personal attacks, Last time I Checked Jersey didn't have too many Rednecks lol.

[big hammer]

Grats, motorcycle technology, which is in theory the same technology that "RICERS" use. You've just owned yourself.


I could crush every single argument in this thread but as previously shown it's not worth it.

I will say this though, I will say the majority of Wesman's claims are fiction, the rest are opinion. Yet people will read what he writes and think that it's somewhat truth.


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did i just own myself? look up engine specs to an 08 ski-doo xp 800r and see if it resembles anything any motorcycle has. then come back and admit you just owned youself.

yeah you can crush every argument cant you. you're just the furious vin diesel of the internet hey?

[4tun8]

I don't need to look up the specs to understand that it's a high compression, high rev, low displacement engine.

Also, If I'm the Vin Deisel of the internet then you're Spongebob.



ROFL it's a two stroke engine? We're talking about gasoline engines here sir.

[N20LT4]

I know your not comparing a 2JZ to a normal lsx motor, because if you hard you need to be slapped hard jr. A 2.0 VTEC motor is shit? Please it is an amazing motor. Remind me again who had the first motor over a 100hp per liter? Oh that's right a honda motor.

OMG...so a 2.0 VTEC is an amazing motor, but the LS1 isn't? :spit: Your a complete tool man. After observing your post I don't even know why Wesman has waisted his time on you.

I'm betting you don't even own a vette.

[big hammer]

I don't need to look up the specs to understand that it's a high compression, high rev, low displacement engine.

Also, If I'm the Vin Deisel of the internet then you're Spongebob.



ROFL it's a two stroke engine? We're talking about gasoline engines here sir.

lol! what do you think it runs on, kerosene?

[4tun8]

It runs on gasoline but you're not adding straight gas to the tank, it's obviously an entirely different technology.

[01ws6er]

It runs on gasoline but you're not adding straight gas to the tank, it's obviously an entirely different technology.

4 Stroke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_stroke_cycle

2 Stroke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_stroke

Different technology, yes, but the only real difference in Fuel would be that you have to add oil to the gasoline prior to putting it in your tank (for lubrication)...Still burns gasoline.

[big hammer]

It runs on gasoline but you're not adding straight gas to the tank, it's obviously an entirely different technology.

negative. the oil is injected directly into the engine. you put straight gasoline in the tank.

[01ws6er]

negative. the oil is injected directly into the engine. you put straight gasoline in the tank.

depends on the 2 stroke app...For example, I used to have a blaster that required only straight gasoline and the oil was injected through a different tank. My RM125 required the gas to be premixed.

[adam3566]

OMG...so a 2.0 VTEC is an amazing motor, but the LS1 isn't? :spit: Your a complete tool man. After observing your post I don't even know why Wesman has waisted his time on you.

I'm betting you don't even own a vette.

Well then you haven't seen my video and picture threads you dumbass. Or the fellow members that have met me more than a few times locally. Never said the 2.0 was amazing, said it was a good motor, which it is. I don't need to impress some little douchbag kid online. I'm a v8 man by heart but still appreciate what other motors can do. Calling someone a tool? So now I'm an object you use to fix things? Wow your education background must be impressive trash ball. Sorry your a waste of my time. Done arguing with morons online to prove what? That your ignorant and sound like a retard, no thanks. I'm done.

[richard head]

Well then you haven't seen my video and picture threads you dumbass. Or the fellow members that have met me more than a few times locally. Never said the 2.0 was amazing, said it was a good motor, which it is. I don't need to impress some little douchbag kid online. I'm a v8 man by heart but still appreciate what other motors can do. Calling someone a tool? So now I'm an object you use to fix things? Wow your education background must be impressive trash ball. Sorry your a waste of my time. Done arguing with morons online to prove what? That your ignorant and sound like a retard, no thanks. I'm done.

ow-eee.... easy on the harsh pills there, gramps. remember other posters are people too? i'll tell it like it is but this is just one step over the line in a thread that's been walkin that way for some time. chill out; we all respect other motors too but this is neither the time nor the place to talk about how bad ass my gator's 2cyl pos is.

[Wesman]

ow-eee.... easy on the harsh pills there, gramps. remember other posters are people too? i'll tell it like it is but this is just one step over the line in a thread that's been walkin that way for some time. chill out; we all respect other motors too but this is neither the time nor the place to talk about how bad ass my gator's 2cyl pos is.

I think its obvious by his posts that his maturity level is well below other people in this thread. When you can't voice your opinion or construct an arguement without calling people names like "dumbass", "douschebag kid", and "retard", you need to put the keyboard down and go out and get some fresh air. Is not like anyone here is personally attacking him, we're talking about differences of opinion. If people can't deal with it then they shouldn't bother posting, because all it does is ruin the entire thead for everyone.

[squee]

I know your not comparing a 2JZ to a normal lsx motor, because if you hard you need to be slapped hard jr. A 2.0 VTEC motor is shit? Please it is an amazing motor. Remind me again who had the first motor over a 100hp per liter? Oh that's right a honda motor.

Never said the 2.0 was amazing, said it was a good motor, which it is.

Wow, looks like the Alzheimer is kicking in already gramps...

Sure looks like you said it was amazing to me...

[N20LT4]

Wow, looks like the Alzheimer is kicking in already gramps...

Sure looks like you said it was amazing to me...

DAMMIT SQUEE...you beat me to it.

:ar:

[4tun8]

Ok I'll say it. The k20 is an amazing motor.


BTW Wesman speaking of someone elses maturity level made me "lol".

[N20LT4]

Well then you haven't seen my video and picture threads you dumbass. Or the fellow members that have met me more than a few times locally. Never said the 2.0 was amazing, said it was a good motor, which it is. I don't need to impress some little douchbag kid online. I'm a v8 man by heart but still appreciate what other motors can do. Calling someone a tool? So now I'm an object you use to fix things? Wow your education background must be impressive trash ball. Sorry your a waste of my time. Done arguing with morons online to prove what? That your ignorant and sound like a retard, no thanks. I'm done.

wow, someone needs to get laid - BAD! :laid:

[big hammer]

depends on the 2 stroke app...For example, I used to have a blaster that required only straight gasoline and the oil was injected through a different tank. My RM125 required the gas to be premixed.

yeah race bikes are premix. to save weight via eliminating complex parts. full race sleds are the same too.

[adam3566]

ow-eee.... easy on the harsh pills there, gramps. remember other posters are people too? i'll tell it like it is but this is just one step over the line in a thread that's been walkin that way for some time. chill out; we all respect other motors too but this is neither the time nor the place to talk about how bad ass my gator's 2cyl pos is.

That actually made me chuckle, especially that last line. " bad ass my gator's 2cyl pos is" that is classic. And yes I did get a little too excited over a website and appologize for that.

[N20LT4]

That actually made me chuckle, especially that last line. " bad ass my gator's 2cyl pos is" that is classic. And yes I did get a little too excited over a website and I apologize for that.

Fixed.

[Wesman]

Ok I'll say it. The k20 is an amazing motor.


BTW Wesman speaking of someone elses maturity level made me "lol".

How ironic that you make such a statement when its well known that you are an import troll. All you do is try to gain respect for your car and other imports around here, and despite people telling you to stop because we DON'T CARE, you persist in doing so anyway.

But you want to call me out on my "maturity level". The irony owns you.

[4tun8]

How ironic that you make such a statement when its well known that you are an import troll. All you do is try to gain respect for your car and other imports around here, and despite people telling you to stop because we DON'T CARE, you persist in doing so anyway.

But you want to call me out on my "maturity level". The irony owns you.


Have you ever posted a kill story?

[adam3566]

Fixed.

Do you really go around fixing everyones mistakes? Sorry I don't pay attention to every little detail while at work. :hifinger:

[N20LT4]

Do you really go around fixing everyones mistakes? Sorry I don't pay attention to every little detail while at work. :hifinger:

You can go on flicking me off all you wan't around here. I don't have to answer to your offensive remarks with a similar gesture. Your ignorance and lack of class is making me look like GOD around here.

Carry on...:D

[adam3566]

You can go on flicking me off all you wan't around here. I don't have to answer to your offensive remarks with a similar gesture. Your ignorance and lack of class is making me look like GOD around here.

Carry on...:D

Look like god? Something that doesn't exist? yes your good at that........ Great logic. Offensive remarks? No, just need to be corrected for an ONLINE typing error. Go get yourself a life, if that's the best you can do is correcting peoples mistakes.

[Wesman]

Look like god? Something that doesn't exist? yes your good at that........ Great logic. Offensive remarks? No, just need to be corrected for an ONLINE typing error. Go get yourself a life, if that's the best you can do is correcting peoples mistakes.

Almost every one of your posts has offensive remarks and is basically an immature rant. Thats what he's referring to, not your poor grammar or spelling.

[adam3566]

Almost every one of your posts has offensive remarks and is basically an immature rant. Thats what he's referring to, not your poor grammar or spelling.

Only being offensive because I don't need to be corrected on grammar of all things. If I make a mistake automotive wise, then yes please correct me. But grammar, come on.