poor little mustang gt

[TransAmFanatic]

the other night i was on my way home from fueling up my car, and when i was like a half mile away, when this mustang gt with a very loud exhaust starts to follow me well i did just like any other fbody owner would do with a cut out, i opened it up and revved the engine to get his attention. well just to be curious i took a u turn to get on the elevated expressway and of course the moron followed me. while on the expressway, he gets on side of me and he was trying to tell me to punch it so he can try and pass me up, well i was like no and started to wave him on to give him a little jump ahead of me, because i just got a tune done to my car and i wanted to see what kinda power i actually gpt from it. well i waved him on, and he stomped the gas, so i hit my gas, and he jumped ahead of me about a car, then i just passed him up like he was standing still. after the race, he then followed me onto the off ramp of the expressway, and we stopped at a redlight. i rolled down my window, and asked the little gt driver with his little gt driver what he had done to it, he replied to me that he had a head and cam package, and an exhaust package, oh and he also stated to me that his car is set up for dead stop runs. i said ok then next light we will hook up again. he then asked me what i had done to my car, and i told him long tube headers, ory, flowmaster muffler. he got all excited and was ready for the next red light, well we got to the next red light, and waited for it to turn green. while waiting, i put on my racing song "Highway to the Danger Zone." so i can drown out his exhaust. well the light turned green and i herd both of us do a small burn out, then the last thing i remember seeing was the little mustang gt driver in my rear view mirror about 5 cars behind me getting smaller and smaller. poor guy. i guess he thought his little gt was fast with all those mods....i dont know do yall think he could have done better???

[Hi-Po]

I duno if this belongs here... maybe the kill section?

[TransAmFanatic]

lol it belongs here

[Y2KPewterSS]

This belongs in the kill section.

[Frost]

....waited for it to turn green. while waiting, i put on my racing song "Highway to the Danger Zone." ......



WTF.

[totalkos]

well we got to the next red light, and waited for it to turn green. while waiting, i put on my racing song "Highway to the Danger Zone." so i can drown out his exhaust.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

:rotfl:

hope thats a joke. If not, it sure made me crack up

[lemons12]

those little gts.. when will they learn????




:wwf:

[mogs01gt]

the other night i was on my way home from fueling up my car, and when i was like a half mile away, when this mustang gt with a very loud exhaust starts to follow me well i did just like any other fbody owner would do with a cut out, i opened it up and revved the engine to get his attention. well just to be curious i took a u turn to get on the elevated expressway and of course the moron followed me. while on the expressway, he gets on side of me and he was trying to tell me to punch it so he can try and pass me up, well i was like no and started to wave him on to give him a little jump ahead of me, because i just got a tune done to my car and i wanted to see what kinda power i actually gpt from it. well i waved him on, and he stomped the gas, so i hit my gas, and he jumped ahead of me about a car, then i just passed him up like he was standing still. after the race, he then followed me onto the off ramp of the expressway, and we stopped at a redlight. i rolled down my window, and asked the little gt driver with his little gt driver what he had done to it, he replied to me that he had a head and cam package, and an exhaust package, oh and he also stated to me that his car is set up for dead stop runs. i said ok then next light we will hook up again. he then asked me what i had done to my car, and i told him long tube headers, ory, flowmaster muffler. he got all excited and was ready for the next red light, well we got to the next red light, and waited for it to turn green. while waiting, i put on my racing song "Highway to the Danger Zone." so i can drown out his exhaust. well the light turned green and i herd both of us do a small burn out, then the last thing i remember seeing was the little mustang gt driver in my rear view mirror about 5 cars behind me getting smaller and smaller. poor guy. i guess he thought his little gt was fast with all those mods....i dont know do yall think he could have done better???
So your car runs mid to low 12s on that setup?

[SpecterGT260]

probably not, but most 4.6GT's run in the mid 13s, even with a head/cam package (assuming its 2v). the heads on the 2v 4.6 are complete crap. IF the car was NPI his "head cam package" could have just been the PI swap in which case he is still a 14 second car unless he can drive like a bat out of hell. i used to have a 00 GT, knew that car inside and out. the only 4.6's that are running fast are gutted and have oober suspension work done, then they run like a 12.6 @ 102 or something crazy

i guess to put it into perspective, a buddy of mine has a 302 stroked 03GT with ported heads and nitrous cams, he runs mid 12s if he is really lucky. aftermarket heads for the 4.6 are almost non-existant, and the ones that are out there are only marginally better than stock. that car was still probably around the 300rwhp mark if it was the older 4.6, stock ls1 territory. If you would like I could pull out my old GT dyno sheets and show you just how far behind that motor is from the ls1

[SpecterGT260]

we need to know the year of the car. was it a 5.0, 4.6, or 4.6 3v?

[shady milkman]

lol it belongs here

This belongs in the kill section.

pwn'd

[TransAmFanatic]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

:rotfl:

hope thats a joke. If not, it sure made me crack up

ha im glad that i made you laugh totalkos, but i love that song.

oh and the mustang was a 2003 gt. dont know to much about them.

[mogs01gt]

probably not, but most 4.6GT's run in the mid 13s, even with a head/cam package (assuming its 2v). the heads on the 2v 4.6 are complete crap. IF the car was NPI his "head cam package" could have just been the PI swap in which case he is still a 14 second car unless he can drive like a bat out of hell. i used to have a 00 GT, knew that car inside and out. the only 4.6's that are running fast are gutted and have oober suspension work done, then they run like a 12.6 @ 102 or something crazy
The Non PI headed car will not be in the 14s, with the PI cam and intake swap they are easy 13 second cars all day. Sorry but you really have no clue on anything you are talking about. These current "gutted" 2v cars, you are referring to, are running 10s and 11's. Here is a buddy of mine with an auto running 11s. Perfectly streetable and puts down around 280 to the wheels.
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008atD42.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008D42III.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/July042008D42II.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
i guess to put it into perspective, a buddy of mine has a 302 stroked 03GT with ported heads and nitrous cams, he runs mid 12s if he is really lucky. aftermarket heads for the 4.6 are almost non-existant, and the ones that are out there are only marginally better than stock. that car was still probably around the 300rwhp mark if it was the older 4.6, stock ls1 territory. If you would like I could pull out my old GT dyno sheets and show you just how far behind that motor is from the ls1
Serious, shut up. You really have no idea. There are no aftermarket heads, so "Marginally better over stock" huh, they are stock?!? So flowing 220-240 over a barely 180cfm stock flow isnt well more than marginal? Kick your friend in the nuts, have him sell his car because he cant drive for shit and probably has a seriously fucked up setup. Tell him to get off the internet.

Here is an example, I put down 325 to the wheels with my cammed and ported stock headed 2v and run high 12s at 110. That is with the stock intake and full exhaust, no cut outs. That is on street tires with only Ford Racing B springs, no other suspension work.

[Frost]

So your car runs mid to low 12s on that setup?

I have tuned dozens of 12 second F-bodies that are autos with often times nothing more at all than headers, lid, catback, and drag radials. A really close friend of mine ran a 12.45 @110 with those mods and a stock stall. He added heads, cam, stall, and 150 hit and the car went 10.57 @ 129.xx with no juice until 100' out. I have video too if you'd like... I have seen 3 bone STOCK M6 f-bodies with good drivers run them into the 12.90s on our track here. One of them was the previous car of the guy I was just talking about.


Here is an example, I put down 325 to the wheels with my cammed and ported stock headed 2v and run high 12s at 110. That is with the stock intake and full exhaust, no cut outs. That is on street tires with only Ford Racing B springs, no other suspension work.

Sounds like a lot of work for the ET.


...and none of this gets around the bit I quoted from the original poster either.

[N20LT4]

The Non PI headed car will not be in the 14s, with the PI cam and intake swap they are easy 13 second cars all day.

I wouldn't say easy 13's with just the '99-up cams, intake and Performance Improvement cylinder heads. Majority of the '99-04 GT's were in the low to mid 14's stock. A set of 3.73's and a couple bolt-ons would probably get you easy 13's on street rubber.


Here is an example, I put down 325 to the wheels with my cammed and ported stock headed 2v and run high 12s at 110. That is with the stock intake and full exhaust, no cut outs. That is on street tires with only Ford Racing B springs, no other suspension work.

Ported heads, cams, and bolt ons - for 325rwhp and high 12's...that's pretty lame.

2-valves aren't very impressive. I'd much rather prefer the 3- and 4-v cars.

[mogs01gt]

lol you people are dense. I forgot where I was at, I will remind myself to check reality at the door.

[SpeedAddict38]

ha im glad that i made you laugh totalkos, but i love that song.

oh and the mustang was a 2003 gt. dont know to much about them.

that song rocks

[N20LT4]

lol you people are dense. I forgot where I was at, I will remind myself to check reality at the door.

Don't get mad at us 'people' because your cammed/headed/bolt-on 2-valve put down a stout 325rw!

[lemons12]

your cammed/headed/bolt-on 2-valve put down a stout 325rw!

thats cute.

[TransAmFanatic]

um....did anyone watch the videos on this guys post??? if so i hope yall noticed the track was built on the down side of a hill...no friggen wonder he was hitting those times and speeds :loser: :jerkit:






The Non PI headed car will not be in the 14s, with the PI cam and intake swap they are easy 13 second cars all day. Sorry but you really have no clue on anything you are talking about. These current "gutted" 2v cars, you are referring to, are running 10s and 11's. Here is a buddy of mine with an auto running 11s. Perfectly streetable and puts down around 280 to the wheels.
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008atD42.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008D42III.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/July042008D42II.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1

Serious, shut up. You really have no idea. There are no aftermarket heads, so "Marginally better over stock" huh, they are stock?!? So flowing 220-240 over a barely 180cfm stock flow isnt well more than marginal? Kick your friend in the nuts, have him sell his car because he cant drive for shit and probably has a seriously fucked up setup. Tell him to get off the internet.

Here is an example, I put down 325 to the wheels with my cammed and ported stock headed 2v and run high 12s at 110. That is with the stock intake and full exhaust, no cut outs. That is on street tires with only Ford Racing B springs, no other suspension work.

[lemons12]

the red mustang in the clips.. whats done to it... and hes running 12s, down a mountain grade slope.. lol

but seriously i am curious as to what is done to it..

[N20LT4]

LOL. :ughlaugh:

thats cute.

...And hey, who in the heck would build a track downhill>? :rotfl:

[lemons12]

LOL. :ughlaugh:



...And hey, who in the heck would build a track downhill>? :rotfl:

all the local mustang guys got together and threatened to riot if they built it to NHRA specs.... they told them if they didnt do it downhill.. *chanting* "RIOT RIOT RIOT":bat:

[N20LT4]

all the local mustang guys got together and threatened to riot if they built it to NHRA specs.... they told them if they didnt do it downhill.. *chanting* "RIOT RIOT RIOT":bat:

:tv: I am literally Laughing My Ass Off!

[zachj03]

My firt car was a 99 mustang gt auto. With long tubes, O/R H pipe, flowmaster cat back, 3:73's, BFG drag radials, cold air kit, 70 mm tb, ported upper intake plenum, u/d pullies, eibach springs, and a mail order tune by pauls high performance, it went 13.7 @ 103 mph. It also put down 245 to the wheels. I loved that car, but 245 rwhp is a joke. And Im not tryin to bad mouth mustangs here, as one of my best friends has an 04 GT with a KB blower on it, but mod for mod, the difference in the 2v and the LS1 is crazy.

[lemons12]

:tv: I am literally Laughing My Ass Off!

yea, that one even made me laugh a little bit..:iagree:

[Camarofan]

, but mod for mod, the difference in the 2v and the LS1 is crazy.

Yep, and Ford doesn't want to budge from it's 4.6. They keep teasing us about the 6.2 liter in the New Stangs. That would be perfect with the New Maro, the Challenger, and the Stangs going at it with the same cubes. It would be alot of fun. Nowadays though boost and juice solves everything.

[SpecterGT260]

The Non PI headed car will not be in the 14s, with the PI cam and intake swap they are easy 13 second cars all day. Sorry but you really have no clue on anything you are talking about. These current "gutted" 2v cars, you are referring to, are running 10s and 11's. Here is a buddy of mine with an auto running 11s. Perfectly streetable and puts down around 280 to the wheels.
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008atD42.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008D42III.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/July042008D42II.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1

Serious, shut up. You really have no idea. There are no aftermarket heads, so "Marginally better over stock" huh, they are stock?!? So flowing 220-240 over a barely 180cfm stock flow isnt well more than marginal? Kick your friend in the nuts, have him sell his car because he cant drive for shit and probably has a seriously fucked up setup. Tell him to get off the internet.

Here is an example, I put down 325 to the wheels with my cammed and ported stock headed 2v and run high 12s at 110. That is with the stock intake and full exhaust, no cut outs. That is on street tires with only Ford Racing B springs, no other suspension work.

no, i do know what im talking about. first of all, lets discuss your illiteracy. i didnt say they were non-existant. i said almost. thats called exaggeration. a literary tool used for emphasizing a point. the heads that are largely available are pretty piss poor. FRPP doesnt even offer anything other than OEM.... the patriot stage III are flowing 225cfm.... but stock cube application heads arent hitting that

there may be exceptions, but the 2v 4.6 doesnt break 12s without either weight reduction and traction, or internal/FE work whether it started npi or PI. the npi cars only have a slight advantage after a PI swap because of a minimal bump in compression.

ur buddy's car can run whatever it wants, 99.99999% of the 280rwhp stangs otu there are still running mid 13s.

my buddy drives just fine, his car made 350rwhp at full weight with stock suspension. and I believe i said he is in the 12s NA now. even if i didnt u still need to seriously chill man. alot of u guys are just way too damn fast to call someone out when they disagree with you only a little. the new heads for these cars have just recently come out, up until maybe a couple years ago even cammed setups were still shy of 300rwhp. not everybody has this year's brand spankin new tech. so maybe you should shut the hell up and realize that just because your ns says "GT" doesnt make you the only one around here that knows mustangs ;)

you say u trap 110.... ls1's with a set of headers will trap that as well and ur all but calling bullshit on the OP. i gotta add, since a stock ls1 can hit 12s on occasion, why would u ask the OP if his bolton car can do it? that just seems odd to me


all the local mustang guys got together and threatened to riot if they built it to NHRA specs.... they told them if they didnt do it downhill.. *chanting* "RIOT RIOT RIOT"
no no no. thats "black diamond raceway" ;)

[SpecterGT260]

lol you people are dense. I forgot where I was at, I will remind myself to check reality at the door.

are you on any mustang boards or are you just a troll here?

im an AFU moderator, the parent site that owns mustangforums.com. that site has less than a handfull of NA 4.6's running 12s with boltons only, and those guys have a suspension that was tuned by jesus himself. like others have said, the 2v GT is a 14 second car, with 13 second passes as rare as the 12 second ls1 pass. the NPI cars have about a 15hp advantage after a PI swap and are still usually in the 14s unless, as previously stated, they can drive really well.

the guys who do have cams are just recently breaking the 300rwhp mark because of some advances in the heads, but most stock headed cam cars are in the 280-290rwhp mark.
just because your buddy uses big ass slicks and turned his car into a husk to run a 12 flat doesnt mean its common at all. the guy I referred to runs nittos on terminator rims. as i said before, his full bolton times were like 13.4 at best and about 12.5 with some spray. however, as I also said (u seemed to have missed it somewhere. thats ok. just read this time) he is running 12s now NA after the 5.0 stroke, nitrous cams, and a port job on his stock heads.




now, for discussion on the heads: there are heads out there, but up until the last year or so there wasnt really anything available. even back in 05 when I had my mustang, patriot and similar companies sold heads for a small fortune and they didnt flow for shit, but now they are redesigning heads from a completely new cast due to plug blow-out on the old heads (if u havent heard this how about u research this time instead of just claiming I dont know what im talking about) allowing for much better design. but these are probably still in the works... or if they are available then they are brand spankin new and you cant expect everybody and his incest brother to have them on his 'stang.

which brings us back full circle: what exactly where you getting at by saying you hope the OP runs 12s in a car that by god better run 12s? were u just being a pompous little shit, bad case of short mans syndrome being the ford on a GM site? the results of this race dont seem far-fetched at all. the 2v is a very restricted motor, get over it

[Raoul-Duke]

I have tuned dozens of 12 second F-bodies that are autos with often times nothing more at all than headers, lid, catback, and drag radials. A really close friend of mine ran a 12.45 @110 with those mods and a stock stall. He added heads, cam, stall, and 150 hit and the car went 10.57 @ 129.xx with no juice until 100' out. I have video too if you'd like... I have seen 3 bone STOCK M6 f-bodies with good drivers run them into the 12.90s on our track here. One of them was the previous car of the guy I was just talking about.



Sounds like a lot of work for the ET.


...and none of this gets around the bit I quoted from the original poster either.

yep yep yep

[Raoul-Duke]

The Non PI headed car will not be in the 14s, with the PI cam and intake swap they are easy 13 second cars all day. Sorry but you really have no clue on anything you are talking about. These current "gutted" 2v cars, you are referring to, are running 10s and 11's. Here is a buddy of mine with an auto running 11s. Perfectly streetable and puts down around 280 to the wheels.
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008atD42.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008D42III.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/July042008D42II.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1

Serious, shut up. You really have no idea. There are no aftermarket heads, so "Marginally better over stock" huh, they are stock?!? So flowing 220-240 over a barely 180cfm stock flow isnt well more than marginal? Kick your friend in the nuts, have him sell his car because he cant drive for shit and probably has a seriously fucked up setup. Tell him to get off the internet.

Here is an example, I put down 325 to the wheels with my cammed and ported stock headed 2v and run high 12s at 110. That is with the stock intake and full exhaust, no cut outs. That is on street tires with only Ford Racing B springs, no other suspension work.

99-04 gt's are pieces of shit. i laugh at them whenever i see them and would laugh at you..oo yeahhh im feelin mean......how does it feel to drive a bitch car??.......bitch

[shady milkman]

wow :lock: ibtl

[Redegal]

Here is an example, I put down 325 to the wheels with my cammed and ported stock headed 2v and run high 12s at 110. That is with the stock intake and full exhaust, no cut outs. That is on street tires with only Ford Racing B springs, no other suspension work.

Is that with your 01 on ported heads and cam only? Wow what a difference a little bit flow can make.

What are they like low 14's stock?

[Camarofan]

99-04 gt's are pieces of shit. i laugh at them whenever i see them and would laugh at you..oo yeahhh im feelin mean......how does it feel to drive a bitch car??.......bitch


Seriously, though, no bull. Would you? Every 99-04 you would laugh at and assume your going to stomp it??? Just curious. If so, man, I wish you could run into some of my boyz on the highway or the quarter. Out of curiousity, could you beat my friends 99?? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1AiWETuTrgc)I dunno maybe you can, I don't know what you've got done to your Maro, but can you?




http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008atD42.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/?action=view&current=July042008D42III.flv
http://s258.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/kurt02gt/July042008D42II.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1

Let's see the lightly modded or stock LS1's that beat Terminators and Shelbys run with that 2v.

Serious, shut up. You really have no idea. Tell him to get off the internet.

Surprisingly so, Most LS1 guys don't know much about any other car other than their own. They have this misconception that they are the cream of the crop and no one else run's 10's and 11's. Everyone is in the 14/15's fully modded.

but mod for mod, the difference in the 2v and the LS1 is crazy.


Well, that's true, but no one cares about mod for mod on the track or racing in the streets for pinks or something. When you show up with the big dawgs, you race what you bring in reality.

[N20LT4]

Seriously, though, no bull. Would you? Every 99-04 you would laugh at and assume your going to stomp it??? Just curious. If so, man, I wish you could run into some of my boyz on the highway or the quarter. Out of curiousity, could you beat my friends 99?? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1AiWETuTrgc)I dunno maybe you can, I don't know what you've got done to your Maro, but can you?

Question: Why do you keep posting videos of other peoples cars...in order to prove your point? I'm just curious, as this is the umteenth time you've done it. Can you beat your friends '99? I thought not! I could though. You keep talking about your 'boyz', everyone has boyz, I have one that runs low 9's in a blown '01 Z06. So what? The truth is that 2-valves are highly restricted motors, and there is no denying that some very extensive modding is needed to run with lightly modded LS1 cars. Period.

[lemons12]

Seriously, though, no bull. Would you? Every 99-04 you would laugh at and assume your going to stomp it??? Just curious. If so, man, I wish you could run into some of my boyz on the highway or the quarter. Out of curiousity, could you beat my friends 99?? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1AiWETuTrgc)I dunno maybe you can, I don't know what you've got done to your Maro, but can you?


Let's see the lightly modded or stock LS1's that beat Terminators and Shelbys run with that 2v.


ANY time i see a GT i dont think i am going to beat it i KNOW i am going to beat it... i may be proven wrong one day.. but i NEVER have the slightest thought that i will get walked on.. thats in my track car and my DD.. your "boys" bring your "boys" to TN.. theres plenty of fun we will give them around here. haha.. ive seen plenty of lightly modded ls1s beat cobras and shelbys.. stock those things are shit for what they are..

LETS SEE YOUR CAR AND WHAT IT CAN DO! no ls1 owner has posted up things saying you think you can beat this? were saying you cant beat MY car.. big difference....

*********IT IS CALLED A CAMARO!!!! not a 'Maro:wwf:

this thread is dead.

[lemons12]

Question: Why do you keep posting videos of other peoples cars...in order to prove your point? I'm just curious, as this is the umteenth time you've done it. Can you beat your friends '99? I thought not! I could though. You keep talking about your 'boyz', everyone has boyz, I have one that runs low 9's in a blown '01 Z06. So what? The truth is that 2-valves are highly restricted motors, and there is no denying that some very extensive modding is needed to run with lightly modded LS1 cars. Period.

the other mustang thread we are in is almost identicle to this one... they just arent so close minded people...:squint: haha

[N20LT4]

the other mustang thread we are in is almost identicle to this one... they just arent so close minded people...:squint: haha

You are right. Now wonder it's been seeming i've been repeating myself. :drunk:

[Camarofan]

:cuss:ANY time i see a GT i dont think i am going to beat it i KNOW i am going to beat it... i may be proven wrong one day.. but i NEVER have the slightest thought that i will get walked on.. thats in my track car and my DD.. your "boys" bring your "boys" to TN..

It wouldn't be worth the gas, but I'm sure i'll run across some over confident guys like yourself out here. It's always fun too.

theres plenty of fun we will give them around here. haha.. ive seen plenty of lightly modded ls1s beat cobras and shelbys.. stock those things are shit for what they are..

Well, those guys can't drive for shit down there then.

LETS SEE YOUR CAR AND WHAT IT CAN DO! no ls1 owner has posted up things saying you think you can beat this? were saying you cant beat MY car.. big difference....

LS1 owners are as bad as ricers when it comes to making shit up, which confuses me because they have respectable cars.

*********IT IS CALLED A CAMARO!!!! not a 'Maro:wwf:

OMG, you don't get out much. You've never heard of things like Maro, Bird, Bowtie, Blue Oval, Termie, etc....???????? Wow.

this thread is dead.

Question: Why do you keep posting videos of other peoples cars...in order to prove your point? I'm just curious, as this is the umteenth time you've done it. Can you beat your friends '99? I thought not! I could though. You keep talking about your 'boyz', everyone has boyz, I have one that runs low 9's in a blown '01 Z06. So what? The truth is that 2-valves are highly restricted motors, and there is no denying that some very extensive modding is needed to run with lightly modded LS1 cars. Period.

Because it tickles me that LSX owners can't say "No, I cannot beat this or that". I can say it all day long, even if I owned one, cuz I've been to REAL tracks, where real shit happens. Not this "I'm bored because my intake/exhaust LS1 just beat a Bugatti veyron by about 5 cars after spinning in all gears.

I've got boyz that fast too(9'ish), but I don't claim to drive the fastest car known to modern day humanity.

But anyways, http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z178/blkzbra/gifs/giveadamn.gifno one cares about the expense when you talk about racing. Racing is the most expensive sport or close to it, so when you wanna go fast, you gotta spend money on both. A couple of thousand dollars, and there goes your advantage. Once you get into the 10's and below, it's who's got the bread.

[zachj03]

Well, that's true, but no one cares about mod for mod on the track or racing in the streets for pinks or something. When you show up with the big dawgs, you race what you bring in reality.

So does that mean that if I were to race you, and possibly win, you wouldnt ask me to race you all motor and not spray? Because you race what you bring right? And my point was that I have owned a 99 2v gt and my 01 Z28, and as far as modding efficiency goes, there isnt much comparison. But Im not a die hard Chevy or Ford guy, I enjoy all fast cars, and I am just the regular consumer looking for the best bang for my buck.

[Camarofan]

So does that mean that if I were to race you, and possibly win, you wouldnt ask me to race you all motor and not spray? Because you race what you bring right? And my point was that I have owned a 99 2v gt and my 01 Z28, and as far as modding efficiency goes, there isnt much comparison. But Im not a die hard Chevy or Ford guy, I enjoy all fast cars, and I am just the regular consumer looking for the best bang for my buck.


This is saying race what you brought, yes and if you were spraying, and I got smoked which I would, I would say you got a fast ride there and move on. I wouldn't start talking about what some dude that ran some time in who knows where and blah, blah, blah. I do it on here cuz it's the norm. Another thing is LS1's have been around alot longer than S197's. Realisically, you're not going to run into stock LS1's. What's funny is that many of you have cammed/spraying/turboe'd LS1's and you talk about wasting a Mustang with dealer plates on it, then you brag about what dominance you have over any other manufacturer. I highly doubt you beating alot of the blown 3 valves the way you say you do on here unless your running about 450+ to the ground and the s197 is running about 6 pounds of boost. LS1's usually go Cammed and sprayed. Stangs go for boost, usually. Each has it's normal mods. Both can be made to run 10 seconds.

Heck, in about 2 to 3 years, when I can catch many of you with your mods, I'll be inclined to say "Anytime/Anybody/Anyplace". And even then, there will be someone faster, maybe in a EVO or something.

[Camarofan]

Okay, Ima try my best to leave you guys alone now cuz your fantasies are dear to you. I hope I can run into some of you when I get my Boost/Cams/Spray too. From what I see, a 50 shot will take away any advantage the LS1 has mod for mod. 600 bucks problem solved.

[N20LT4]

Okay, Ima try my best to leave you guys alone now cuz your fantasies are dear to you. I hope I can run into some of you when I get my Boost/Cams/Spray too. From what I see, a 50 shot will take away any advantage the LS1 has mod for mod. 600 bucks problem solved.

Sorry to burst your bubble buddy but your 4.6L motor doesn't - and never will - stack up mod for mod against an LS1. The rule of the thumb still stands - There is no replacement for displacement, period.

[SpecterGT260]

honest to bhudda, camarofan, u own a s197. u dont know the 2v either. im going to allow u to throw the race card on this one and say that ur an elitist sonofabitch like all the other s197 owners. find something i posted that isnt accurate. I double dog dare you

[lemons12]

:cuss:
It wouldn't be worth the gas, but I'm sure i'll run across some over confident guys like yourself out here. It's always fun too.
Well, those guys can't drive for shit down there then.
LS1 owners are as bad as ricers when it comes to making shit up, which confuses me because they have respectable cars.
OMG, you don't get out much. You've never heard of things like Maro, Bird, Bowtie, Blue Oval, Termie, etc....???????? Wow.
Because it tickles me that LSX owners can't say "No, I cannot beat this or that". I can say it all day long, even if I owned one, cuz I've been to REAL tracks, where real shit happens. Not this "I'm bored because my intake/exhaust LS1 just beat a Bugatti veyron by about 5 cars after spinning in all gears.
I've got boyz that fast too(9'ish), but I don't claim to drive the fastest car known to modern day humanity.
But anyways, http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z178/blkzbra/gifs/giveadamn.gifno one cares about the expense when you talk about racing. Racing is the most expensive sport or close to it, so when you wanna go fast, you gotta spend money on both. A couple of thousand dollars, and there goes your advantage. Once you get into the 10's and below, it's who's got the bread.

its always fun to run into guys like me? in cars like mine? so you can get your doors blown off??
the guys im talking about with stock shelbys and stock termys running the times i see are the best in the world.. im not going by what i have seen people in my are run.. im going by the fastest in the world.. and its not impressive, not the LEAST little bit.. not for what they are.... they SUCK! if you dont agree than you are dumb. and you have NOT A CLUE what speed is..
when have i made anything up?
ive heard all of those phrases before.. but calling it a 'Maro.. you sound like an fing retard, its the most annoying thing in the world. do you really think that i havnt been around that long?
there are PLENTY of people on this forum i cant touch, that goes for mustangs trucks suvs 240s old muscle cars imports... whatever, i give no respect to you. i know i can blow your doors off in my TA, and hell even my DD should beat you unless you have full exhaust or somehting..
youve got boys that fast? that are running nines!!!!!!!!! OMG!:dot: im talking 8s man.. take your shit somehwere else.. your not impressing anyone.
as far as expense goes.. i care.. i wouldnt buy a car that it would take me 50k to get it into the 10s.. i want one that it takes $1500 to get it there.. and thats what i bought..

S197's. Realisically, you're not going to run into stock LS1's. What's funny is that many of you have cammed/spraying/turboe'd LS1's and you talk about wasting a Mustang with dealer plates on it, then you brag about what dominance you have over any other manufacturer. I highly doubt you beating alot of the blown 3 valves the way you say you do on here unless your running about 450+ to the ground and the s197 is running about 6 pounds of boost. LS1's usually go Cammed and sprayed. Stangs go for boost, usually. Each has it's normal mods. Both can be made to run 10 seconds.
Heck, in about 2 to 3 years, when I can catch many of you with your mods, I'll be inclined to say "Anytime/Anybody/Anyplace". And even then, there will be someone faster, maybe in a EVO or something.


i havnt bragged about beating any mustang.. but i have 350 to the ground and if ANY gt500 or shelby or termy that is stock even hung with me i would cry.. i would actually probably sell my damn car.. i PROMISE you i have killed plenty of stangs with more power than me, stock and modded.. hell theres an 03 that has pully/exhaust/intake and he wont even race me.. cause he KNOWS that i will smoke him.. so yes PLEASE show me a mustang with dealer plates that i will not rape..:goodluck:


2-3 yeas.. your going to need a complete engine swap there buddy.. a shit ton of boost rear end tranny your cars gonna have to be stripped also.. so yes.. in 2-3 years.. or now.. or anywhere inbetween PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me "anytime/anybody/anyplace".. i swear to you i will take your bet, and your money.....:denied:


Okay, Ima try my best to leave you guys alone now cuz your fantasies are dear to you. I hope I can run into some of you when I get my Boost/Cams/Spray too. From what I see, a 50 shot will take away any advantage the LS1 has mod for mod. 600 bucks problem solved.

a 50 shot.. please.. lets try a 100.. dreams? i havnt drempt anything, everything i said is factual, i have either seen it or done it.. and if your talking mod for mod.....<--- this makes me think you are retarded... mod for mod... if you spray a 50 shot.. so can the ls1 so there goes your trick for taking the advantage away.. mod for mod your car will NEVER EVER EVER be equal to an ls1....


honest to bhudda, camarofan, u own a s197. u dont know the 2v either. im going to allow u to throw the race card on this one and say that ur an elitist sonofabitch like all the other s197 owners. find something i posted that isnt accurate. I double dog dare you

he cant. period.. they are in denial. they find no points.. its just.. your dumb, you dont know what your saying.. my friend can beat you.. wait 2-3 years...


damn you people are tools.:woot:

[SpecterGT260]

sigh... he just admitted he doesnt even have boost yet...... I know all of the specs for these cars. bolton cars are just breaking 300rwhp in the bolton catagory. that 300rwhp intake and tune deal was a thing of '05 and never again. inflated dyno'd FTL....

cammed s197s are making 340rwhp at best.... the only thing you got going is your stock low-ish compression lending itself to boost. ive seen a few 600hp cars on stock internals..... unlil they rev over 6k and realize the rods have no tensile strength :( SNA_P!!!!!!! you can be as proud as you want, there are alot of guys in this thread (me included) that will toast you based on the admission in your last post (no boost, no cams, no nothin)

get a life and go troll a site that isnt wise to ur shit

[SpecterGT260]

Originally Posted by Camarofan
Okay, Ima try my best to leave you guys alone now cuz your fantasies are dear to you. I hope I can run into some of you when I get my Boost/Cams/Spray too. From what I see, a 50 shot will take away any advantage the LS1 has mod for mod. 600 bucks problem solved.

i like this though. its not that bad actually..... a 50 shot takes away the advantage from ellis juan and levels the playing feild for the new 3v stang fancy pants.


its true. but honest to god, how much spray can you take fourpointsixliterman? ive seen 200 shots on stock ls1 internals with fuel support. mod for mod doesnt mean much when ur out sprayed by a stock setup. im on a 125 shot right now and im not even tuned for it. ran half a dozen bottles through already. going 150 once i get the chance to tune and get my fuel pump in. the thing is, u stang guys on here are the ones that are living a fairytale. i know ford's motors pretty damn well because i spent many frustrating years building the damned things. a small cube OHC motor just doesnt have the oats to compete.

[big hammer]

LOL. :ughlaugh:



...And hey, who in the heck would build a track downhill>? :rotfl:

motortrend did. they run imports downhill and domestics uphill.

[N20LT4]

motortrend did. they run imports downhill and domestics uphill.

Ha. I wouldn't doubt it.

[SpecterGT260]

on the same track too. the domestics launch on the gravel runoff area

[99 Kobra]

Talk is cheap. Do your talking on the race track.

[SpecterGT260]

u should be concentrating on driving then....... not talking

ur the reason i get freaked out when i see some blond driving on her cell phone

[N20LT4]

u should be concentrating on driving then....... not talking

ur the reason i get freaked out when i see some blond driving on her cell phone

HA! Great comeback.

[lemons12]

well, he got owned.. haha:coffee:

[stangslayer98]

i think we all know someone or seen a mustang on some T.V show with a transplanted motor from the general, why because its a hassle to work on those lame 2v,4v motors, and they are not as reliable or durable as the GM powerplants

[Camarofan]

Okay, it looks like we got some shit slingers:shitstorm: in here, so lets gohttp://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z178/blkzbra/gifs/cowboy.gif. I Tried to stay away and let the lies flow, but...

honest to bhudda, camarofan, u own a s197. u dont know the 2v either. im going to allow u to throw the race card on this one and say that ur an elitist sonofabitch like all the other s197 owners. find something i posted that isnt accurate. I double dog dare you

I didn't quite understand your post entirely, but yes, I do own an S197 and they are beautiful and most wanted. Don't believe me, check the sales. Sexy motha@#$@#'s Truth hurts. Actually, I don't know the 2v very much, but they have grown on me. Maybe if I understood what you were saying, I could comment, but, I dunno. BTW, if you wanna bring a non boosted/juiced bolt on 2v Stang and race, well, sorry, your going down:boxing:. I've spanked plenty of jealous 2v owners, but I try to be cool with fellow Stangers. On the other hand, I've been smoked by other 2v's. Nothing new. You can make an AMC gremlin fast, no biggie.

sigh... he just admitted he doesnt even have boost yet...... I know all of the specs for these cars. bolton cars are just breaking 300rwhp in the bolton catagory. that 300rwhp intake and tune deal was a thing of '05 and never again. inflated dyno'd FTL....

I have an 05

cammed s197s are making 340rwhp at best

Well, before I burst into laughter and respond to this, are you talking about cammed with supporting mods??? Must be a stage 1 if that's what you're talking about. The stage 2's and 3's are averaging 365/385, depending on who's cams you got. Comp cams in these 3v's are gay. BBR's are good.


there are alot of guys in this thread (me included) that will toast you based on the admission in your last post (no boost, no cams, no nothin)


Bullshit to the fullest extent of the word. Depending on your definition of "Toast", I think your full of forum bullshit. Getting "Toasted" by my defintion would be about 5 cars in the 1/4. An stock or lightly modded LS1 is going dowwwwn against me. You have to be modded. I've seen too many, driven a stock AND Highly modded LS1, and the correct answer is bullshit, I don't give a rats ass who you've beat in the past. The one's that can beat me badly and run 10,9, 8 seconds are whatever. Oh well, it's kewl. Doesn't make me want to rush out and buy an LS1/2, well, the Vette I would, but anyway, if I get beat by 5+cars, it's by the one's who have done some internal shit or are spraying hard. This intake/exhaust bullshit won't fly with this S197. You'll be disappointed. I'll say it again, if there is any LS1 that's not spraying/cammed/or boosted, he's not getting it done with me. Not happening:denied:. Maybe, and I mean maybe, I'll give you the highway runs, but i'm being open minded there. Now if you run 11's from full bolt ons, then I'm wrong, but I don't think you do. I know on the forums you do, but not on the track.


get a life and go troll a site that isnt wise to ur shit

I've been with LS1.com for awhile. I browse from time to time on plenty of sites cuz I'm versitile like that. I'm here till I get booted, if it comes to that, but as I am on the street/strip, I don't back down to shit, LS1's included.

[Camarofan]

its always fun to run into guys like me? in cars like mine? so you can get your doors blown off??

Depends on what you got done. If you've open your wallet, then yes, but I can do the same.

.. and its not impressive, not the LEAST little bit.. not for what they are.... they SUCK! if you dont agree than you are dumb. and you have NOT A CLUE what speed is..

The definition of Speed varies with each person. A car that can run 9's/10's is not slow to me. Now, I know most of you intake/exhaust LS1 are running 6's and shit, but 9's and 10's is as far as I want to go. Getting a Termie or a Shelby there is not hard, so, they don't suck.


when have i made anything up?
ive heard all of those phrases before.. but calling it a 'Maro.. you sound like an fing retard, its the most annoying thing in the world.

Dude, you may get annoyed by alot of things, I dunno, but I call em Maro sometimes.


there are PLENTY of people on this forum i cant touch, that goes for mustangs trucks suvs 240s old muscle cars imports... whatever

Even though you strike me as an over confident prick, I will give you props for admitting that.

, i give no respect to you.

Once again
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z178/blkzbra/gifs/giveadamn.gif

Not here to run for office. Respect not necessary.


i know i can blow your doors off in my TA, and hell even my DD should beat you unless you have full exhaust or somehting..


Like I said before, most of the guys that can blow my doors off are the one's that have put the big money under the hood. Ima let you in on a secret.......I can do that to. It just depends on how fast I wanna go.



youve got boys that fast? that are running nines!!!!!!!!! OMG!:dot: im talking 8s man..

And even after your lil 8 sermon, there's still someone else faster, and faster, and faster, blah, blah, blah.....

take your shit somehwere else.. your not impressing anyone.

My shit is staying right here were the rest of the shit is. It smells don't it?

i want one that it takes $1500 to get it there.. and thats what i bought..

Kewl. I applaud you.

i havnt bragged about beating any mustang.. but i have 350 to the ground and if ANY gt500 or shelby or termy that is stock even hung with me i would cry..

Wait a min.......WTF????? 350 to the ground????? You've gotta be kidding me. I assumed you were like a low 10 second guy as much confident shit you were talking.



hell theres an 03 that has pully/exhaust/intake and he wont even race me.. cause he KNOWS that i will smoke him..

Is he an 03 2v or Cobra? Cuz if you meant Cobra, I was about have a good laugh. If you mean a pullied/intake/exhaust Termie, and you will smoke him with 350 to the ground, then I rest my case. Ls1 guys, not all, are just ricers who have bought a V8 for once.

so yes PLEASE show me a mustang with dealer plates that i will not rape..:goodluck:

YOu'd better be raping a Stang right off the dealership lot if your modded.




2-3 yeas.. your going to need a complete engine swap there buddy.. a shit ton of boost rear end tranny your cars gonna have to be stripped also.. so yes.. in 2-3 years.. or now.. or anywhere inbetween PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me "anytime/anybody/anyplace".. i swear to you i will take your bet, and your money.....:denied:

If I need an engine swap, I would put a Ford 351 so we could battle it out Cube for cube just for fun, but since you said you had 350 to the ground, you sound like a clown. I wouldn't bet money. I bet personal pride and bragging rights. With your power, You could give me a good race if you are a good driver, but 350 to the ground? Toasting me? Bullshit You'd better be running some gears other than stock. Then, maybe.




a 50 shot.. please.. lets try a 100.. dreams? i havnt drempt anything, everything i said is factual, i have either seen it or done it.. and if your talking mod for mod.....<--- this makes me think you are retarded... mod for mod... if you spray a 50 shot.. so can the ls1 so there goes your trick for taking the advantage away.. mod for mod your car will NEVER EVER EVER be equal to an ls1....

I have said that before myself, so your not sending a newsflash to me, but mod for mod based on what I've seen, a 50 shot will settle the deal. full bolt on LS1's put down about 340/350? Well, full bolt on S197's can put down about 320. Like I say, just spray a lil shot and there goes your cube advantage. I chose the gears because it's constant.



he cant. period.. they are in denial. they find no points.. its just.. your dumb, you dont know what your saying.. my friend can beat you.. wait 2-3 years...


damn you people are tools.:woot:

Well, you know what it's like. Unless I'm on the forums with a bunch of doctors/Attorneys and wealthy businessmen/women, which I doubt, most of us have to wait till we pay our shit down before we seriously mod. Those of you who are boosted/stroked and have built your cars to 9 seconds usually don't do it the first month they bought there car, so you know what I mean, idiot. You are two phases below a tool if we are tools.

You are not exotics. You have a little 346 For 30000 that responds well to mods. You can make any car fast. Any car. I have a little 281 that reponds well to mods. We both lose out to higher displacement engines of old. 440's/396's 428'/9's, 454,455's etc... The engine science hasn't changed much. It's still the same= Get more air/fuel in the chamber at the right mixture and "boom" more power with perfect timing. Whether you raise your cubes or boost it, or port and polish, it's all been done before. We mod because we want more air/fuel flowing. LS1's are good motors, but not invincible.

Why do I fall for this nonsense?????

[Camarofan]

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z178/blkzbra/gifs/cowboy_chewing_sc.gif

Continue with the exaggerations....:coffee:

[big hammer]

Depends on what you got done. If you've open your wallet, then yes, but I can do the same.


The definition of Speed varies with each person. A car that can run 9's/10's is not slow to me. Now, I know most of you intake/exhaust LS1 are running 6's and shit, but 9's and 10's is as far as I want to go. Getting a Termie or a Shelby there is not hard, so, they don't suck.




Dude, you may get annoyed by alot of things, I dunno, but I call em Maro sometimes.




Even though you strike me as an over confident prick, I will give you props for admitting that.


Once again
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z178/blkzbra/gifs/giveadamn.gif

Not here to run for office. Respect not necessary.




Like I said before, most of the guys that can blow my doors off are the one's that have put the big money under the hood. Ima let you in on a secret.......I can do that to. It just depends on how fast I wanna go.





And even after your lil 8 sermon, there's still someone else faster, and faster, and faster, blah, blah, blah.....



My shit is staying right here were the rest of the shit is. It smells don't it?



Kewl. I applaud you.



Wait a min.......WTF????? 350 to the ground????? You've gotta be kidding me. I assumed you were like a low 10 second guy as much confident shit you were talking.





Is he an 03 2v or Cobra? Cuz if you meant Cobra, I was about have a good laugh. If you mean a pullied/intake/exhaust Termie, and you will smoke him with 350 to the ground, then I rest my case. Ls1 guys, not all, are just ricers who have bought a V8 for once.



YOu'd better be raping a Stang right off the dealership lot if your modded.






If I need an engine swap, I would put a Ford 351 so we could battle it out Cube for cube just for fun, but since you said you had 350 to the ground, you sound like a clown. I wouldn't bet money. I bet personal pride and bragging rights. With your power, You could give me a good race if you are a good driver, but 350 to the ground? Toasting me? Bullshit You'd better be running some gears other than stock. Then, maybe.






I have said that before myself, so your not sending a newsflash to me, but mod for mod based on what I've seen, a 50 shot will settle the deal. full bolt on LS1's put down about 340/350? Well, full bolt on S197's can put down about 320. Like I say, just spray a lil shot and there goes your cube advantage. I chose the gears because it's constant.





Well, you know what it's like. Unless I'm on the forums with a bunch of doctors/Attorneys and wealthy businessmen/women, which I doubt, most of us have to wait till we pay our shit down before we seriously mod. Those of you who are boosted/stroked and have built your cars to 9 seconds usually don't do it the first month they bought there car, so you know what I mean, idiot. You are two phases below a tool if we are tools.

You are not exotics. You have a little 346 For 30000 that responds well to mods. You can make any car fast. Any car. I have a little 281 that reponds well to mods. We both lose out to higher displacement engines of old. 440's/396's 428'/9's, 454,455's etc... The engine science hasn't changed much. It's still the same= Get more air/fuel in the chamber at the right mixture and "boom" more power with perfect timing. Whether you raise your cubes or boost it, or port and polish, it's all been done before. We mod because we want more air/fuel flowing. LS1's are good motors, but not invincible.

Why do I fall for this nonsense?????

you calling someone an over confident prick... that's hilarious!

now you seem to think you're pretty quick right... but do you realize you have an internally stock s197? i'm sorry you arent quick. you beat somebodys girlfriend driving their ls1 and think you can beat all ls1's ? pretty funny stuff.

[dpinson]

this is always fun
basically just put it this way if it didnt come with forced induction from the factory and it has a little blue oval on it, it is more than likely slow


your s197 may be a good match for a stock ls1 but:
1. you payed a hefty price for it
2.it is still outmanned by the ls1
3.it is a modular motor=very expensive to mod
4.no matter what anyone says the mustang was originally and still is today designed for a woman
5.it just doesnt have the seat of the pants,neck snapping torque that an ls1 provides

just cause i havent said it in awhile

Lets praise the general for our little blue oval eaters

[SpecterGT260]

Okay, it looks like we got some shit slingers:shitstorm: in here, so lets gohttp://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z178/blkzbra/gifs/cowboy.gif. I Tried to stay away and let the lies flow, but...



I didn't quite understand your post entirely, but yes, I do own an S197 and they are beautiful and most wanted. Don't believe me, check the sales. Sexy motha@#$@#'s Truth hurts. Actually, I don't know the 2v very much, but they have grown on me. Maybe if I understood what you were saying, I could comment, but, I dunno. BTW, if you wanna bring a non boosted/juiced bolt on 2v Stang and race, well, sorry, your going down:boxing:. I've spanked plenty of jealous 2v owners, but I try to be cool with fellow Stangers. On the other hand, I've been smoked by other 2v's. Nothing new. You can make an AMC gremlin fast, no biggie.

i can break it down for you. This discussion was about a 2v. you chimmed in with a bunch of info that really doesnt apply, and you dont know jack about the 2v, yet you were all too eager to agree with mugs who tries to claim that I dont know the 2v. i cant get it any simpler than that. the other thing I said is that as an s197 owner ur most likely an elitist jackass, because thats how 90% of u guys are.




I have an 05

duh.... and when they first came out brenspeed was advertising 300rwhp on a cai and tune alone. that lasted about 6 months until everyone wised up and realized they were inflating numbers. the tunes wake them up, but its still around the 280rwhp range.



Well, before I burst into laughter and respond to this, are you talking about cammed with supporting mods??? Must be a stage 1 if that's what you're talking about. The stage 2's and 3's are averaging 365/385, depending on who's cams you got. Comp cams in these 3v's are gay. BBR's are good.

no, as i said before I spend alot of time at mustangforums and know alot of those guys well. a few guys have comp stage 3 kits and are still shy of 350rwhp. of course in reality were arguing over 15rwhp where any dyno can read a little high or a little low. so what ur saying is you burst into laughter over a 2% discrepency.... do you have down's syndrome?




Bullshit to the fullest extent of the word. Depending on your definition of "Toast", I think your full of forum bullshit. Getting "Toasted" by my defintion would be about 5 cars in the 1/4. An stock or lightly modded LS1 is going dowwwwn against me. You have to be modded. I've seen too many, driven a stock AND Highly modded LS1, and the correct answer is bullshit, I don't give a rats ass who you've beat in the past. The one's that can beat me badly and run 10,9, 8 seconds are whatever. Oh well, it's kewl. Doesn't make me want to rush out and buy an LS1/2, well, the Vette I would, but anyway, if I get beat by 5+cars, it's by the one's who have done some internal shit or are spraying hard. This intake/exhaust bullshit won't fly with this S197. You'll be disappointed. I'll say it again, if there is any LS1 that's not spraying/cammed/or boosted, he's not getting it done with me. Not happening:denied:. Maybe, and I mean maybe, I'll give you the highway runs, but i'm being open minded there. Now if you run 11's from full bolt ons, then I'm wrong, but I don't think you do. I know on the forums you do, but not on the track.

oooooookay. lets break this one down. if you look back i said "there are alot of guys here, including me, that could toast you. id bet my lunch money you are still comfortably in the 13s, and 5 lengths at the quarter isnt only a few tenths difference. I have full boltons, a fairly healthy cam, a full QA1 suspension, and a 125 wet shot of nitrous. I think i can manage a few tenths over you, and it wont take a 10 second car to make you feel spanked. i dont know why ur drawing lines as to WHAT the mods can be... i never mentioned that, just that ur acting awefully big for ur britches.

also, you have no heads/ cams/ or power adder of any kind. best you have then is full boltons in which case a stock ls1 can still give u a hard time and a lightly modded one may pull on you. u got a little overzealous there with your "bullshit"





I've been with LS1.com for awhile. I browse from time to time on plenty of sites cuz I'm versitile like that. I'm here till I get booted, if it comes to that, but as I am on the street/strip, I don't back down to shit, LS1's included.

u probably wont be banned any time soon, but that doesnt mean ur horrendously misinformed not only about our cars, but the older mustangs and to a certain extent even your own. start reading pal

[SpecterGT260]

and u go find a dyno for any s197 dynoing 320 without any cam work. boltons only the s195 is around 300rwhp and is only fast because your damn 3-link suspension rocks. hell, even stock the only reason you guys can dip into the lower 13s is because your cars are so incredibly forgiving to driver error.

[N20LT4]

The stage 2's and 3's are averaging 365/385, depending on who's cams you got. Comp cams in these 3v's are gay. BBR's are good.


Please show me an S197 Mustang that's putting down 385rwhp on the factory-stock 3-valve heads...


Also, What do you run again? ET/MPH:

and u go find a dyno for any s197 dynoing 320 without any cam work. boltons only the s195 is around 300rwhp and is only fast because your damn 3-link suspension rocks. hell, even stock the only reason you guys can dip into the lower 13s is because your cars are so incredibly forgiving to driver error.

I agree. There only putting down between 245-270rwhp stock for A5/M5 cars. This guy is really "overhyping" them to the fullest.

[SpecterGT260]

i didnt see his remark about comp. alot of guys run comps. they are a bigass company with the money to do the R&D. if u dont like them its a matter of preference, but honest to god about every distributer out there gets grinds from comp and a couple of degrees here and there isnt going to make a 30rwhp difference.

[lemons12]

1.Bullshit to the fullest extent of the word. Depending on your definition of "Toast", I think your full of forum bullshit. Getting "Toasted" by my defintion would be about 5 cars in the 1/4. An stock or lightly modded LS1 is going dowwwwn against me. You have to be modded. I've seen too many, driven a stock AND Highly modded LS1, and the correct answer is bullshit, I don't give a rats ass who you've beat in the past. The one's that can beat me badly and run 10,9, 8 seconds are whatever. Oh well, it's kewl. Doesn't make me want to rush out and buy an LS1/2, well, the Vette I would, but anyway, if I get beat by 5+cars, it's by the one's who have done some internal shit or are spraying hard. This intake/exhaust bullshit won't fly with this S197. You'll be disappointed. I'll say it again, if there is any LS1 that's not spraying/cammed/or boosted, he's not getting it done with me. Not happening:denied:. Maybe, and I mean maybe, I'll give you the highway runs, but i'm being open minded there. Now if you run 11's from full bolt ons, then I'm wrong, but I don't think you do. I know on the forums you do, but not on the track.

2.Depends on what you got done. If you've open your wallet, then yes, but I can do the same.

3.The definition of Speed varies with each person. A car that can run 9's/10's is not slow to me. Now, I know most of you intake/exhaust LS1 are running 6's and shit, but 9's and 10's is as far as I want to go. Getting a Termie or a Shelby there is not hard, so, they don't suck.

4.Like I said before, most of the guys that can blow my doors off are the one's that have put the big money under the hood. Ima let you in on a secret.......I can do that to. It just depends on how fast I wanna go.

5.Wait a min.......WTF????? 350 to the ground????? You've gotta be kidding me. I assumed you were like a low 10 second guy as much confident shit you were talking.

6. Is he an 03 2v or Cobra? Cuz if you meant Cobra, I was about have a good laugh. If you mean a pullied/intake/exhaust Termie, and you will smoke him with 350 to the ground, then I rest my case. Ls1 guys, not all, are just ricers who have bought a V8 for once.

7. If I need an engine swap, I would put a Ford 351 so we could battle it out Cube for cube just for fun, but since you said you had 350 to the ground, you sound like a clown. I wouldn't bet money. I bet personal pride and bragging rights. With your power, You could give me a good race if you are a good driver, but 350 to the ground? Toasting me? Bullshit You'd better be running some gears other than stock. Then, maybe.

8. Well, you know what it's like. Unless I'm on the forums with a bunch of doctors/Attorneys and wealthy businessmen/women, which I doubt, most of us have to wait till we pay our shit down before we seriously mod. Those of you who are boosted/stroked and have built your cars to 9 seconds usually don't do it the first month they bought there car, so you know what I mean, idiot. You are two phases below a tool if we are tools.



in order......

1. i promise on everything i have i will beat you a HELL of a lot more than 5 lengths in the 1/4.. hell thatd be easy in the 1/8.

2. ive only cracked my wallet, but i did it smart.. the difference is... is i have, and you havnt that makes ALL the difference... of course your can... but apparently your too pussy..

3.stock, they suck. period. even lightly modded they suck... ****FOR WHAT THEY ARE**** if you think 9s and 10s are fast, then you think i am fast.

4. it all depends on how you spend your money... and now i have less than 2k in my car, and WILL blow your doors off..

5. yea 350 to the ground.. and im proud of it! i love telling people that... are not curious to my stall size m6 or a4 what kind of dyno 9 inch or 10 bolt stock gearing or 4.10s weight reduction?? you obviously have NO!!!!! idea how much that comes into factor.. dyno numbers mean NOTHING absolutely NOTHING when it comes to speed. hell i got a local friend that in the mid to high 8s.... he dynoed 425 to the ground...:ughlaugh: those numbers dont add up do they..who cares, dynos dont matter, if you dont know that... your a noob.. plain and simple.:yup:

6. yes i meant a TERMY! and 03 cobra.. hes smart.. he knows my car.. YOU DONT.. your guying off what you **think** i should run, and have NO idea about my mods..

7. i bet everything i have in this world that i would TOAST you with **Actually 354.33 to the ground.. haha you think gears would make it go from a good race to toasting you.. your the one that is making yourself sound like a clown.. not me.

8. i built mine damn close to the way it sits now three months after i bought my car, it was near bone stock, (lid/loud mouth)..




the diference is is nobody that has any sense called BS on me when i said i have 350 to the ground and will toast you.. because they know NOTHING about my car, just like you dont. they were smart, you got made a fool of.. AGAIN!:ughlaugh::moon: you just keep digging deeper and deeper..

hint.. look at my cars. i have a DD.. honestly would probably beat you.. but again i dont know your mods so im not going to say it will or wont.. then i have... KEY WORD HERE----------------------------------> track car.. so id say my track car against your daily driven car will RAPE and i mean RAPE you since my DD will give you a run for your money..

your silly kid.

[lemons12]

oooooookay. lets break this one down. if you look back i said "there are alot of guys here, including me, that could toast you. id bet my lunch money you are still comfortably in the 13s, and 5 lengths at the quarter isnt only a few tenths difference. I have full boltons, a fairly healthy cam, a full QA1 suspension, and a 125 wet shot of nitrous. I think i can manage a few tenths over you, and it wont take a 10 second car to make you feel spanked. i dont know why ur drawing lines as to WHAT the mods can be... i never mentioned that, just that ur acting awefully big for ur britches.

also, you have no heads/ cams/ or power adder of any kind. best you have then is full boltons in which case a stock ls1 can still give u a hard time and a lightly modded one may pull on you. u got a little overzealous there with your "bullshit"


i think he was pointing towards me with the thing about not being able to toast him, i would almost put money on it that everyone that has posted in this thread will beat him.. he **Thinks** he knows what i run too, and my mods, and my limits..... haha.. he doesnt know race weight... what kinda shot i run.. if that was on low boost.. a 5000 stall.. i love it.. i ALWAYS get that reaction when i tell people im about to race i have 355 to the ground.. they say "this is gonna be a waste of gas".. and they are right.. it usually is.. for them.:rotfl:


Also, What do you run again? ET/MPH:


cant wait for this one.. bet we never find out.. or better yet i bet hes never even been to the track.. he obviously doesnt know what a track car is..:newbie:

[Camarofan]

in order......

1. i promise on everything i have i will beat you a HELL of a lot more than 5 lengths in the 1/4.. hell thatd be easy in the 1/8.

2. ive only cracked my wallet, but i did it smart.. the difference is... is i have, and you havnt that makes ALL the difference... of course your can... but apparently your too pussy..

LoL, you don't even know me. I got more testosterone in my left ball than you generate in a week more than likely, lol. Pussies don't have anything to do with being fast. Being a Conan doesn't make your car fast and if your car is fast, it doesn't make you a Conan. Money makes it happen.




3.stock, they suck. period. even lightly modded they suck... ****FOR WHAT THEY ARE**** if you think 9s and 10s are fast, then you think i am fast.

If you're running 2's, 3's, 4's or whatever then yes, I would say you are fast, but you have a misconception that Mustangs can't and haven't run that fast or faster, which is funny. like I said, you must have something other than a 350rwhp LS1 to be running 3's @ 650mph or whatever the hell it is your running.


4. it all depends on how you spend your money... and now i have less than 2k in my car, and WILL blow your doors off..

Dude, for 2k, you could be running a nice shot of juice and have some serious gears/weight reduction(rotational is best)/ and Slicks for all I know. If you do, then hurrayyy! But you still haven't proved to me the the LSx is invincible. You've only proven it responds well to mods if your smart.

5. yea 350 to the ground.. and im proud of it! i love telling people that... are not curious to my stall size m6 or a4 what kind of dyno 9 inch or 10 bolt stock gearing or 4.10s weight reduction?? you obviously have NO!!!!! idea how much that comes into factor..

Actually, I can relate very strongly about how modding smart can make you much faster than your dyno reading, which is why I've been asked at the track if I was running a blower in more than one case.

dyno numbers mean NOTHING absolutely NOTHING when it comes to speed. hell i got a local friend that in the mid to high 8s.... he dynoed 425 to the ground...:ughlaugh: those numbers dont add up do they..who cares, dynos dont matter, if you dont know that... your a noob.. plain and simple.:yup:

Actually, I know a fox body stang that puts out 2 hundred something to the ground, and because of his weight reduction(Rims, driveshaft, etc....) He runs 11's at sea level, 12's here, so your not showing me any newsflash. Dyno's give you an Idea of what you should be running in an Ideal situation, but it's the average horsepower to you put down the ground that counts in a race among a few other things.


6. yes i meant a TERMY! and 03 cobra.. hes smart.. he knows my car.. YOU DONT.. your guying off what you **think** i should run, and have NO idea about my mods..

Well, this one, I'll give to you, but I'm sure if I looked at your set up, I could guess what you'd be running. I'd notice anything you've done, you know, Gutting it out, Tubbing it out, skinnies, or whatever. I'd know.

7. i bet everything i have in this world that i would TOAST you with **Actually 354.33 to the ground.. haha you think gears would make it go from a good race to toasting you.. your the one that is making yourself sound like a clown.. not me.

No, you just have a few mods that multiply your cars potential in the 1/4 that don't show up on the dyno. I know all bout that. I still know that a 350rwhp LS1 is not going to toast me UNLESS he has done some other things that don't show on the dyno, which I'm aware of.


8. i built mine damn close to the way it sits now three months after i bought my car, it was near bone stock, (lid/loud mouth)..

Now that's were I'd whip that LS1 ass when you had that set up. I got some Ideas too for my Stang. I could spray a 150 shot and say, "well, i only spend 600 dollars". Spray is the cheap way. Everyone should know that.


he diference is is nobody that has any sense called BS on me when i said i have 350 to the ground and will toast you.. because they know NOTHING about my car, just like you dont. they were smart, you got made a fool of.. AGAIN!:ughlaugh::moon: you just keep digging deeper and deeper..

Like I said, I can relate because I mention an LS2 kill on here and people start saying bad driver, Fat driver, bird shit on the windshield, any excuse because they don't understand how a few smart mods will make you faster than you appear to be. BTW, I said BULLSHIT to the remark about alot of guys on the board could toast me ligthly modded or mildly modded. It depends on how you look at it. If you're running 3's, your not lightly modded. You've had to make DRASTIC changes to your car in order to do that

hint.. look at my cars. i have a DD.. honestly would probably beat you.. but again i dont know your mods so im not going to say it will or wont.. then i have... KEY WORD HERE----------------------------------> track car.. so id say my track car against your daily driven car will RAPE and i mean RAPE you since my DD will give you a run for your money..

Well, I don't know what your DD would run because there's no way of knowing online. Your DD could be a C6. Anyways, you have proven nothing new to me.........NOTHING. LSx's can, have and always will be beaten from time to time. PERIOD.


your silly kid.

No, just stubborn. And competitive.

[Camarofan]

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no, as i said before I spend alot of time at mustangforums and know alot of those guys well. a few guys have comp stage 3 kits and are still shy of 350rwhp. of course in reality were arguing over 15rwhp where any dyno can read a little high or a little low. so what ur saying is you burst into laughter over a 2% discrepency.... do you have down's syndrome?

Win syndrome, and it's a mother. Anyways, Comp cams don't do shit with the three valves. Stage 2 BBR cams with supporting mods are better.


oooooookay. lets break this one down. if you look back i said "there are alot of guys here, including me, that could toast you. id bet my lunch money you are still comfortably in the 13s, and 5 lengths at the quarter isnt only a few tenths difference. I have full boltons, a fairly healthy cam, a full QA1 suspension, and a 125 wet shot of nitrous. I think i can manage a few tenths over you, and it wont take a 10 second car to make you feel spanked. i dont know why ur drawing lines as to WHAT the mods can be... i never mentioned that, just that ur acting awefully big for ur britches.

LoL, dude, your talking major shit when you've went into the heads and done some internal work. Once you do that, it's fair game. I could go mod for mod with you and fix any differences that the cubes play a role in with a shot of Juice and or gears. If you do this, I can do that, blah, blah, blah dude. My point is that whatever the hell you do, theres things I could do to beat you. You're not untouchable. Of course you can beat me by a few tenths, YOU'D BETTER with cams, or else I'd tell you to trade your car in and drive a cab.

also, you have no heads/ cams/ or power adder of any kind. best you have then is full boltons in which case a stock ls1 can still give u a hard time and a lightly modded one may pull on you. u got a little overzealous there with your "bullshit"



BULLSHIT Nothing else to say on that one, but then again, some consider a 100+ shot is lightly modded.


u probably wont be banned any time soon, but that doesnt mean ur horrendously misinformed not only about our cars, but the older mustangs and to a certain extent even your own. start reading pal

Ditto partner. You don't know what you think you know about our cars. I know people that have Vettes, Camaros, etc.... I know what you're capable of and the forum is bullshit, plain and simple.

[Camarofan]

Please show me an S197 Mustang that's putting down 385rwhp on the factory-stock 3-valve heads...


Also, What do you run again? ET/MPH:

13.9-14.1 @ 99 or so, lol. I like telling that to sea level boyz :D You should see what your cars run out here stock or mildly modded as you put it.



I agree. There only putting down between 245-270rwhp stock for A5/M5 cars. This guy is really "overhyping" them to the fullest.

Overhyping is the talent LSx, mainly LS1 owners are veryyy good at.

[Camarofan]

Okay, enough of this. It's going in circles
:coffee:

I actually dig your cars, dudes, but you guys stretch so much shit that I really don't know what to believe about your numbers and dynos and shit. One guys says they dyno 600rwhp N/A with no motor work. Another says they run 11's with some DR's and a tune. All I know is they are closer to me than I once thought when I used to feed into the hype.


Moral of the story is...."Do your talking/typing on the track". I apply that to myself and have faired very well with LS1's and 2's that aren't heavily modded. Once I start modding heavily, then it's going to get even better!

[N20LT4]

13.9-14.1 @ 99 or so, lol. I like telling that to sea level boyz :D You should see what your cars run out here stock or mildly modded as you put it.


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/n20lt4/501.jpg

I put my last dyno graph up for you for you to read and weap, maybe one day you'll make power like me :). But oh yeah, by then my new tranny and stall will be in, and so will the A.I. 205cc heads, Victor Jr. EFI intake, throttle body and so on...oh yeah, I forgot to mention the 650 horses lurking around the back wheels. :ike:



Overhyping is the talent LSx, mainly LS1 owners are veryyy good at.

Overhyping what? Those are your average numbers for a stock S197. Don't be ashamed. :wall:

[Camarofan]

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/n20lt4/501.jpg

I put my last dyno graph up for you for you to read and weap, maybe one day you'll make power like me :). But oh yeah, by then my new tranny and stall will be in, and so will the A.I. 205cc heads, Victor Jr. EFI intake, throttle body and so on...oh yeah, I forgot to mention the 650 horses lurking around the back wheels. :ike:




Overhyping what? Those are your average numbers for a stock S197. Don't be ashamed. :wall:

Okayyyy, what's your point:cool2:? Are you saying 500hp is astronomical? Why weep??? N/A is it's good, but once the Modding starts, it's fair game.....Meh, a whipple or hellion Turbo on my lil 4.6 3v and I I can beat those numbers. You're not making an arguement for the LS1, your showing me that you have some extra money to build a badass ride out of yours, that's all. I can match the dyno numbers. The 650 would require some forging, but 3v's are in the 700rwhp and higher too.

[Camarofan]

I'm supposed to be done with this thread, but you guys keep it up.

It's done. I'm not convinced, and neither are you. You continue to get kills, and so will I.

[SpecterGT260]

Win syndrome, and it's a mother. Anyways, Comp cams don't do shit with the three valves. Stage 2 BBR cams with supporting mods are better.




LoL, dude, your talking major shit when you've went into the heads and done some internal work. Once you do that, it's fair game. I could go mod for mod with you and fix any differences that the cubes play a role in with a shot of Juice and or gears. If you do this, I can do that, blah, blah, blah dude. My point is that whatever the hell you do, theres things I could do to beat you. You're not untouchable. Of course you can beat me by a few tenths, YOU'D BETTER with cams, or else I'd tell you to trade your car in and drive a cab.





BULLSHIT Nothing else to say on that one, but then again, some consider a 100+ shot is lightly modded.




Ditto partner. You don't know what you think you know about our cars. I know people that have Vettes, Camaros, etc.... I know what you're capable of and the forum is bullshit, plain and simple.


you are so disillusioned its disgusting. did youforget the context of the previous conversation? u were running ur mouth about all of ur kills to guys that would stomp you. I called you out, you said "well you better have xxxx" and i said i did..... :itsok: its ok man...

and if you really think ur bolton car with 300 or so rwhp is going to consistantly beat our boltons cars with 330-340rwhp ur dreaming. it obviously doesnt do much to say it again but im very well aware of what I know about your cars. I owned a 2v for a few years and dropped a buttload of money on it (and thats where this shitfest started.... incase u got lost... started with the 2v..... 2v's be what we were talkin bout.... just making sure ur on the same page here still......) u really dont seem to know anything about the cars though. you quote a couple obscure quarter mile times, you talk about the mods you COULD have and the times you MIGHT run with them. ur about as worthless as that random cheerleader whose daddy bought her a new mustang because by god u always wanted a pony for ur 16th birthday and instead of picking up piles of shit in the back yard i thought id just give u a pony with all the shit in the engine bay instead..... go read man. better yet, go actually turn a few wrenches so u actually know what ur talking about.

[lemons12]

1.LoL, you don't even know me. I got more testosterone in my left ball than you generate in a week more than likely, lol. Pussies don't have anything to do with being fast. Being a Conan doesn't make your car fast and if your car is fast, it doesn't make you a Conan. Money makes it happen.

2.If you're running 2's, 3's, 4's or whatever then yes, I would say you are fast, but you have a misconception that Mustangs can't and haven't run that fast or faster, which is funny. like I said, you must have something other than a 350rwhp LS1 to be running 3's @ 650mph or whatever the hell it is your running.

3.Dude, for 2k, you could be running a nice shot of juice and have some serious gears/weight reduction(rotational is best)/ and Slicks for all I know. If you do, then hurrayyy! But you still haven't proved to me the the LSx is invincible. You've only proven it responds well to mods if your smart.

4.Actually, I can relate very strongly about how modding smart can make you much faster than your dyno reading, which is why I've been asked at the track if I was running a blower in more than one case.

5.Actually, I know a fox body stang that puts out 2 hundred something to the ground, and because of his weight reduction(Rims, driveshaft, etc....) He runs 11's at sea level, 12's here, so your not showing me any newsflash. Dyno's give you an Idea of what you should be running in an Ideal situation, but it's the average horsepower to you put down the ground that counts in a race among a few other things.

6.Well, this one, I'll give to you, but I'm sure if I looked at your set up, I could guess what you'd be running. I'd notice anything you've done, you know, Gutting it out, Tubbing it out, skinnies, or whatever. I'd know.

7.No, you just have a few mods that multiply your cars potential in the 1/4 that don't show up on the dyno. I know all bout that. I still know that a 350rwhp LS1 is not going to toast me UNLESS he has done some other things that don't show on the dyno, which I'm aware of.

8.Now that's were I'd whip that LS1 ass when you had that set up. I got some Ideas too for my Stang. I could spray a 150 shot and say, "well, i only spend 600 dollars". Spray is the cheap way. Everyone should know that.

9.Like I said, I can relate because I mention an LS2 kill on here and people start saying bad driver, Fat driver, bird shit on the windshield, any excuse because they don't understand how a few smart mods will make you faster than you appear to be. BTW, I said BULLSHIT to the remark about alot of guys on the board could toast me ligthly modded or mildly modded. It depends on how you look at it. If you're running 3's, your not lightly modded. You've had to make DRASTIC changes to your car in order to do that

10.Well, I don't know what your DD would run because there's no way of knowing online. Your DD could be a C6. Anyways, you have proven nothing new to me.........NOTHING. LSx's can, have and always will be beaten from time to time. PERIOD.

No, just stubborn. And competitive.

I could go mod for mod with you and fix any differences that the cubes play a role in with a shot of Juice and or gears. If you do this, I can do that, blah, blah, blah dude. My point is that whatever the hell you do, theres things I could do to beat you. You're not untouchable. Of course you can beat me by a few tenths, YOU'D BETTER with cams, or else I'd tell you to trade your car in and drive a cab.

12.
BULLSHIT Nothing else to say on that one, but then again, some consider a 100+ shot is lightly modded.

13.Ditto partner. You don't know what you think you know about our cars. I know people that have Vettes, Camaros, etc.... I know what you're capable of and the forum is bullshit, plain and simple.

Okay, enough of this. It's going in circles
:coffee:

14.I actually dig your cars, dudes, but you guys stretch so much shit that I really don't kto feed into the hype.
Moral of the story is...."Do your talking/typing on the track". I apply that to myself and have faired very well with LS1's and 2's that aren't heavily modded. Once I start modding heavily, then it's going to get even better!

15.you are so disillusioned its disgusting. did youforget the context of the previous conversation? u were running ur mouth about all of ur kills to guys that would stomp you. I called you out, you said "well you better have xxxx" and i said i did..... :itsok: its ok man...
ncase u got lost... started with the 2v..... 2v's be what we were talkin bout.... just making sure ur on the samebay instead..... go read man. better yet, go actually turn a few wrenches so u actually know what ur talking about.

1. i wish you were closer to me.... then we could decide whos the bigger man.... bet i win at that too..:dot:

2. a few posts ago you said 8s 9s and 10s were fast.. you figured out that i ran that and probably everyone argueing with you runs that... now your saying i have to run 3s to be fast... make up your mind man.. is 10s fast to you? or are 3s fast?? i can quote you and show you where you said it if i need to..

3. what is up with you and thinking that gears make a car so damn fast.. in MUSTANGS they do help.. in our cars, its just another mod.. nothing special.. you keep saying well you couldnt beat me with 350rwhp unless you have gears, then it wouldnt be a race.... and for the record you can have a full bolt on H/C/I with 325s a 200 shot and suspension mods along with weight reduction for 2,000$.. you obviously know nothing...

4. wow... what mods exhactly do you have to get you into the high 13s?

5. average hp is what predicts the outcome in a race!!!!:spit: how about TQ?? horsepower sells cars.. TQ wins races.. your such an fing noob its not even funny.. you have to either be very young or know nothing about cars/racing.. i dont have to point that out, you have basically typed your stupidity in REALLY BIG RED LETTERS..

6. its not hard to spot skinnies....:dot: and i would put money on it if i let you LOOK at my car you would bet me money that it is a full weight (minus back seats) 3400 lb. 98 TA with TD's dumped before the axle.... haha and id say :yup:

7. you arent aware of them because you dont know my mods.. and yes i KNOW that my 355 RWHP 98 TA will absolutely annihalate you.. thinkn about it.. i have an 03 cobra intake pullie and exhaust that wont race me... you think i might be a little bit faster than you think i am? NAH! couldnt be..

8. youd whip me when my TA was stock huh... lol.. thats funny because outta all the stangs i raced.. yes 05 and up i never lost not one time.. i had some close ones with guys that had gears and intake.. but never lost.. i ran 8.4 @ 84 in the 1/8 with a lid and loudmouth.. a HELL of a lot better than any stock 05 up gt ive seen anywhere.... so know you wouldnt have..

9. why are you bringing up 3s.. noone has mentioned anything like that.. you brought your friends up running 9s.. and i let you know i have friends running 7s and 8s.. who cares though.. your delusional..

10. its a stockish z28.. im pretty sure though itd be enough to take the win.. either by a nose or 2-3 cars.. either way, thats my DD.. and you think you could hang with my track car? id say if i took it easy on you you MIGHT just MAYBE be 10-12 lengths behind me in the 1/4 and id be pulling REAL hard on you.. and thats being generous...

11. YOU ARE RETARDED... mod for mod means for every mod you put on your car i can put on mine.. so you put gears intake and exhauts i put that on also.. ls1s respond better so im gonna have how much every stock advantage i had on you plus a little bit more cause of how well they do respond over mustangs.. *****IF YOU ADD A 50 SHOT TO MAKE UP FOR BEING BEHIND!!!! pay attention-----> I CAN TOO... this is why NO MATTER what MOD FOR MOD your car will NEVER!!!! i repeat NEVER be equal to an ls1! NO mATTER WHAT YOU DO!

12. that is lightly modded....:dot:

13. we dont know what we think we know about our cars... kid your in left field when it comes to ls1s.. or hell racing in general..

14. again your saying "when im modded, if i was modded"... like i said your a pussy... either mod or shut the fuck up dude.. your a tool.. if you cant run the times then shut your mouth.. run what you brung.. if you didnt bring an 8 second car dont say well if i had ***** and *** and ***** o and **** it would be an 8 sec. car. and we are pitiful?

15. like i said he just says what he COULD have.. we told him we were in the 9s-11s.. after he said that that was fast.. now he said you have to be in the 3s to be considered fast.. hes backpedaling.. and fast.





camarofan... what are your mods.. ill tell you what your times would be if you ran at my track.. then ill tell you if my DD would be you... then i will still say my TA will DRAG your flowered ass down the track...give up man, you cant win... your life sucks.. your mustang is slow. period.! yuour NOT modded and you COULD be IF you open your wallet, right.. but you either paid too much for your car and dont have money left over to mod that expensive ass POS or your a pussy.. im going with all of the above..

[TransAmFanatic]

ok dude please calm down, because you are def. stressing yourself over this shit way to much, i mean you are starting to stutter when you type...not good bro.:lol:



[QUOTE=Camarofan;1571169]a whipple or hellion Turbo on my lil 4.6 3v and I I can beat those numbers.

[lemons12]

lmao... its taking him longer and longer to respong.. hes got to come up with his BS.. lol:denied:

[N20LT4]

lmao... its taking him longer and longer to respong.. hes got to come up with his BS.. lol:denied:

I notice that too. :yup:

[lemons12]

I notice that too. :yup:

man, sorry i left ya hangin in the other thread that got locked.. i couldnt get on for a day or two...... i laughed when i saw the 450hp cobra say hed race me for money any time and take it...... i was like :woo: sounds good to me, but didnt get a chance to tell him that i would accept and whoop that ass in the process!

for some reason a lot of cobra owners think that just becaue they have 100 more hp they will smoke us....:whistle:



i also enjoy them saying UNLESS you have a track only car that has weight reduction and a huge ass stall and gears you cant beat me.... while it CLEARLY says:

Track-TA98A4 DD-98z28M6
TA-White, Camaro-Black

wouldnt me having a TRACK ls1 and a DD ls1 give in idea to how much faster my track car would be??? morons..

[SpecterGT260]

:dunno:about the same?

[N20LT4]

man, sorry i left ya hangin in the other thread that got locked.. i couldnt get on for a day or two...... i laughed when i saw the 450hp cobra say hed race me for money any time and take it...... i was like :woo: sounds good to me, but didnt get a chance to tell him that i would accept and whoop that ass in the process!

for some reason a lot of cobra owners think that just becaue they have 100 more hp they will smoke us....:whistle:

i also enjoy them saying UNLESS you have a track only car that has weight reduction and a huge ass stall and gears you cant beat me.... while it CLEARLY says:

Track-TA98A4 DD-98z28M6
TA-White, Camaro-Black

wouldnt me having a TRACK ls1 and a DD ls1 give in idea to how much faster my track car would be??? morons..

Some people just don't get it man. Suprisingly I was over in the Mustang forum and most of the Cobra and S197 owners aren't like that. I 'killed' my buddies 03 Cobra last night and posted the story over there and suprisingly none of the guys came across as cocky. I don't know what's up with these stang guys that come over here but they give most of those guys a bad name in my opinion. Those guys know how deadly you guys' LS1's can be!

[lemons12]

Some people just don't get it man. Suprisingly I was over in the Mustang forum and most of the Cobra and S197 owners aren't like that. I 'killed' my buddies 03 Cobra last night and posted the story over there and suprisingly none of the guys came across as cocky. I don't know what's up with these stang guys that come over here but they give most of those guys a bad name in my opinion. Those guys know how deadly you guys' LS1's can be!

the ones that know there stuff, stay on here and usually deont start shit.. the ones that have no clue what they are talking about stir shit up, and thats what they are looking for....

they just couldnt handle 3 of us.. haha:newbie:

[SpecterGT260]

im actually a little sad that fan and mugs havent come back......... i was having a good time with them.

[N20LT4]

the ones that know there stuff, stay on here and usually deont start shit.. the ones that have no clue what they are talking about stir shit up, and thats what they are looking for....

they just couldnt handle 3 of us.. haha:newbie:

We are the infamous Commando's of "Kill Stories" :ar:

[Hi-Po]

Holy shit this is a major bitching fest.

[lemons12]

im actually a little sad that fan and mugs havent come back......... i was having a good time with them.

we should have said some dumb shit so they could call us out on it.. just to keep it going.. haha..

Holy shit this is a major bitching fest.

yea, it was pretty good.. thats what happens when a newb troll messes with 3 ls1 owners that know their shit..

:buttkick:

[mogs01gt]

Is that with your 01 on ported heads and cam only? Wow what a difference a little bit flow can make.

What are they like low 14's stock?
Most drivers in the low 14s, good DA will see a high 13. I ran a 14 flat stock first time ever at the track. My buddy's 2000 auto z28 runs the exact same times stock. The track isnt too high but the altitude is around 1000ft at the track.

I could careless about drag racing anymore, I auto cross my car now.

[Redegal]

I could careless about drag racing anymore, I auto cross my car now.

Oh, good for you.

[SpecterGT260]

the Z runs identical times as you? he needs tires.... as if a single 14 second ls1 is grounds to say its expected. a bad driver can nerf even an auto.