More kills, 04Cobra, SRT4

[Cali Night Stalker]

Was on the freeway cumin back home from a car show about a week ago out of nowere an Srt neon and a Cobra line up next 2 me they do the 3 honks n we punch it i killed the SRT, but couldnt shake the cobra till about 120, got him by about a car.

[tonyjnjz]

what r your mods?

[Cali Night Stalker]

Full bolt-ons, but no cam yet.

[JHayesLS1]

and you pulled a 04 Cobra top end?

[rapter34]

wow eaither that mustang needs a new driver or you got a factory freak.

[RandomOmen]

This kid is full of it.

[N20LT4]

This kid is full of it.

Who is full of it?

[Stone]

This kid is full of it.

Man ive said it 100000000 times. ANYTHING can happen on the streets. Just cause someone can own it doesnt mean they can drive it:true:

[N20LT4]

Man ive said it 100000000 times. ANYTHING can happen on the streets. Just cause someone can own it doesnt mean they can drive it:true:

No matter how many times you explain it, people still don't understand that. There too busy "textbook" racing.

[4TEHW]

Was this race in San Jose? And what color was the SRT-4?

[jrc1122]

Was this race in San Jose? And what color was the SRT-4?


Was it you?

That would be awesome for an actual eye witness to this questionable story.

I understand anything can happen, but come on a roll race, how much skill is really needed for a Cobra (Termi) to take an LS1 to 120?

[N20LT4]

There is becoming too many termi sack huggers on this site for my taste. I guess when one guy gets it handed to him, he'll never believe someone else could do what he couldn't.

And to the comment above, short shifting and/or missed-shifts can easily cause the more powerful car to lose a roll race.

[4TEHW]

Was it you?

That would be awesome for an actual eye witness to this questionable story.

I understand anything can happen, but come on a roll race, how much skill is really needed for a Cobra (Termi) to take an LS1 to 120?

Hah, no. I'm veeery lightly modded (only 270/310). I was just wanting to get more information to try and find out who it was.

[jrc1122]

There is becoming too many termi sack huggers on this site for my taste. I guess when one guy gets it handed to him, he'll never believe someone else could do what he couldn't.

And to the comment above, short shifting and/or missed-shifts can easily cause the more powerful car to lose a roll race.

True-- but how come most the termi drivers seem to be uncabable of successfully using the power their cars provide.

PS. He may very well have won. I have no idea. And BTW, I nut swing on no car (not even my own)--

Okay maybe the C6 Z06.. I may swing on it's Nuts.. lol-- but that is it..:true:

[SpeedAddict38]

Man ive said it 100000000 times. ANYTHING can happen on the streets. Just cause someone can own it doesnt mean they can drive it:true:

+1..........people act like the 03-04 cobra has a auto pilot button the driver can hit to beat the LS1's

[Cali Night Stalker]

Was this race in San Jose? And what color was the SRT-4?

Im from San Jose, but the race was actually on 101 in Freemont, i was on my way home. It was a black SRT, the Cobra was white.

[Cali Night Stalker]

wow eaither that mustang needs a new driver or you got a factory freak.

Never lost to a Cobra, modded stang or any SRT8 raced the Charger and 300C, dnt think to highly of the Cobra just cuz its supercharged, remember they only are about .4 faster in a 1/4mile and weigh about 200lb more then our WS6 and just have like 30 or 40 more hp. With a few mods u should be able to beat them. have u raced one yet??

[jrc1122]

Never lost to a Cobra, modded stang or any SRT8 raced the Charger and 300C, dnt think to highly of the Cobra just cuz its supercharged, remember they only are about .4 faster in a 1/4mile and weigh about 200lb more then our WS6 and just have like 30 or 40 more hp. With a few mods u should be able to beat them. have u raced one yet??

true-- but finding a stock cobra is probably pretty rare. Usually, CAI, full exhaust, pullie and a tune are the basic upgrades that almost all the owners do on these cars.

-- but you could argue that same thing for the LS1. I suppose.

[Cali Night Stalker]

true-- but finding a stock cobra is probably pretty rare. Usually, CAI, full exhaust, pullie and a tune are the basic upgrades that almost all the owners do on these cars.

-- but you could argue that same thing for the LS1. I suppose.

Yea its true but remember i didnt kill the Cobra i barely got him by a car!

[Cali Night Stalker]

I also heard that the Cobra supercharger wen it heats up it looses like 20hp. Any truth to that??

[01ws6er]

Never lost to a Cobra, modded stang or any SRT8 raced the Charger and 300C, dnt think to highly of the Cobra just cuz its supercharged, remember they only are about .4 faster in a 1/4mile and weigh about 200lb more then our WS6 and just have like 30 or 40 more hp. With a few mods u should be able to beat them. have u raced one yet??

Met a guy at the track the night I ran with an 03 Termy, running 12.2's all night, and he said that was shitty for him. Said his best run is 12.02, and he has pullies, exhaust, he said headers so I assume lt's, cai, drs, gears (4.10 I believe), and a tune. Still, with bolt ons and a tune an m6 ls1 should run what, mid 12's...?

Not saying you didn't, actually I'm glad to hear this as I would love to race one from a roll :)

[Cali Night Stalker]

Theres a lot more than just HP,TQ #'s . Just cuz a car has more or less power then u dnt mean u gona win or loose. Tranny, gear ratios how much the car weight and SPECIALY THE DRIVER is wat makes the difference wether u WIN or LOOSE!!!! :drivin:

[stangslayer98]

those cobras with little mods can make well over 500 to the wheels. like stated earlier very few are stock

[N20LT4]

Still, with bolt ons and a tune an m6 ls1 should run what, mid 12's...?

Not saying you didn't, actually I'm glad to hear this as I would love to race one from a roll :)

Some full bolt-on LS1 cars are running 11's/ I know three owners personally, one of them my brother before he did his full combo. He had all the bolt-ons, M6 w/ 4.11's + Cartek Clutch, 12-bolt + M/T stickies/skinnies and ran 11.8@116.x w/ a 1.56 60' @ 3427#. He held the record around here for the quickest Bolt-on only LS1 for a while. Now the quickest guy I know is John Maginnus which has ran a best of 11.3@118 in his '02 Trans Am with bolt-ons and a 4200-stalled TH400.

[Insert]

True-- but how come most the termi drivers seem to be uncabable of successfully using the power their cars provide.

its entirely possible that they can make mistakes, i mean they did buy the overpriced model of the mustang.

SpeedAddict38
+1..........people act like the 03-04 cobra has a auto pilot button the driver can hit to beat the LS1's

well they probably did, but then the techs at ford foun d that they couldnt make a chip powerful enough to run against an LS1 :woot:

[Cali Night Stalker]

Finnaly people who make more sense about things :bravo: These other guys should go buy a F*ckin Cobra sense they think there unbeatable :jerkit:

[N20LT4]

those cobras with little mods can make well over 500 to the wheels. like stated earlier very few are stock

The usual pullied, tuned, bolt-on Cobra will produce around 460-rwhp, give or take. 500RWHP and above your talkin' ported Eaton's.

[Cali Night Stalker]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kmbETC3ZgeI&feature=related http://youtube.com/watch?v=vdrmOvA3_Tg

[Cali Night Stalker]

I found more if u want :chuckles:

[Cali Night Stalker]

LS1 BABY!!!!!!!!! :spank2: :flex: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4T6H7tw58&feature=related For U Cobra Lovers

[N20LT4]

LS1 BABY!!!!!!!!! :spank2: :flex: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4T6H7tw58&feature=related For U Cobra Lovers

Did you see the way him and his girl stopped sipping their drink and froze in aw when the f-body rode up? As soon as that guy heard the whine of a centrifugal blower on an LS car he knew it was too much for him. Wouldn't wanna get blown away in front of your girlfriend would you. :wall:

[blackSS01]

There is becoming too many termi sack huggers on this site for my taste. I guess when one guy gets it handed to him, he'll never believe someone else could do what he couldn't.

And to the comment above, short shifting and/or missed-shifts can easily cause the more powerful car to lose a roll race.

:cheers: I have pulled two cobras well past 120mph, his story is absolutely correct. One was bone stock, had him by about a half a car to 140 mph, other one was just CAI two people in each car, had him by about a fender length to around 135 or so. Had all my mods in sig for both races.

[jrc1122]

maybe they are easier to beat than I think. :dunno: I've never run one.

All I have to go one is witnessed track times-- and the ones I have seen are running low to mid 12s on DR and and a the basic upgrades that most Cobra owners do (tune, CAI, exhaust, and Pully)

I probably need at least headers and tune before I can think about winning.. but hey I guess anything can happen.

[99 Kobra]

I also heard that the Cobra supercharger wen it heats up it looses like 20hp. Any truth to that??

Yes, heat soak.

[99 Kobra]

I believe he beat the Cobra. A car still has to be driven by someone who knows what they are doing. Just ask the driver of the C6 Z06 that my '04 smoked at Willow Springs Raceway last weekend. Obviously, his Z06 was faster than my Cobra, but I was the better road racer.

[SAGGIN]

I'll take a win over a Termi any day, no matter what the circumstances surrond it, roll, dig, bad shifting wateva win is a win at the end of the day and thats what counts. Don't matter what shiii looks like on paper, it how it's executed that makes the difference.

[4TEHW]

"I don't wanna get outta my car. I wanna race...come on."

Hahaha. Those Cobra owners looked mighty scurred.

[Cali Night Stalker]

maybe they are easier to beat than I think. :dunno: I've never run one.

All I have to go one is witnessed track times-- and the ones I have seen are running low to mid 12s on DR and and a the basic upgrades that most Cobra owners do (tune, CAI, exhaust, and Pully)

I probably need at least headers and tune before I can think about winning.. but hey I guess anything can happen.

They are fast but a light modded LS1 with a good driver should be able to win. With some DR u should be in the mid, high 12's but its on the driver.:sword:

[Insert]

hell driver is most important thing. great mods are nothing if not supported by some tight quick shifting.

i once beat a corvette a few years back while i was still driving a v-6 bird. the kid said he wanted to race, and then he stalled on the green. moral of the story, driver is important, no matter what you drive

[Cali Night Stalker]

hell driver is most important thing. great mods are nothing if not supported by some tight quick shifting.

i once beat a corvette a few years back while i was still driving a v-6 bird. the kid said he wanted to race, and then he stalled on the green. moral of the story, driver is important, no matter what you drive

:true: Heres some proof http://youtube.com/watch?v=DWtXzUlfwaI

[Insert]

i find youtube commentary to be so stupid. they just argue back and forth. "the cobra should have won (insert excuse here)". i mean yes it should have, but it didnt, driver couldnt drive. stupid. i hate youtube because of its stupid commentary.

[N20LT4]

i find youtube commentary to be so stupid. they just argue back and forth. "the cobra should have won (insert excuse here)". i mean yes it should have, but it didnt, driver couldnt drive. stupid. i hate youtube because of its stupid commentary.

I swear You Tube makes me feel like the smartest person in the world sometimes. If it wasn't for the videos...

[dpinson]

you have some believers here man,there are alot of cobra groupies that think they are unbeatable


it is all about the driver and even with an equal driver the ls1 will not get beat by much stock for stock and same tranny

[N20LT4]

Stock for stock w/ equal drivers there should be a nice gap inbetween. A stock 03/04 Cobra is surely capable running in the 12.80 range @ 112, versus an average LS1 in the 13.4@107 range. There's roughly around a 1/2 second difference there. But when you put a bolt-on LS1 up against a Cobra driver that doesn't know how to get all that power to the ground it can be a different story.

[dpinson]

yeah i do agree with you in the quarter i did forget to mention that i was referring to the 1/8 mile where the gap is not as bad but still a good gap

[JHayesLS1]

I was skeptical because he passed him going towards top end, I would think a Cobra would have the advantage there. Anything can happen though.

[dundonrl]

I've only raced one LS1 Fbody when I was 100% stock.. 01 Camaro SS 6 speed coupe vs my 03 Cobra coupe, we were even from a 40 roll till I started pulling away in 4th gear..

wouldn't be a contest now, since I have some of the more "normal" mods 2.8" pulley and tune.. oh on a dynojet I made 372 hp and 365 torque to the ground 100% stock..

now I did have a LS1 powered car when I was in Hawaii.. 98 Targa C5, with auto and 2.73 gears.. 100% stock it ran 13.55@103.96 2.15 60 ft at HRP.. awesome car, but definitely not as quick as my 03 Cobra I have now.

[mike302]

my car made 415 RWHP with just magnaflow catted X pipe/Magnaflow Catback and a steeda CAI the rest was stock no pulley upgrade

[N20LT4]

my car made 415 RWHP with just magnaflow catted X pipe/Magnaflow Catback and a steeda CAI the rest was stock no pulley upgrade

I would expect those kind of numbers from any blown V8.

[Cali Night Stalker]

I think the LS1 is a well build car cuz even tho it may be a bit slower stock motor than the Cobra they need a supercharger to compete with us!! LS1 supercharged vs Cobra supercharged?? You get the picture!

[dundonrl]

I think the LS1 is a well build car cuz even tho it may be a bit slower stock motor than the Cobra they need a supercharger to compete with us!! LS1 supercharged vs Cobra supercharged?? You get the picture!

281 cubic inches vs 345.9 cubic inches.. You get the picture!

[Cali Night Stalker]

281 cubic inches vs 345.9 cubic inches.. You get the picture!

Thats why you dnt buy a :uzi:Mooostang

[chuckie669]

I love my car and wouldn't consider anything else, but I am a little jealious about the room in the stang engine bays allowing a wider selection of S/C's without any major fabrication.

[dundonrl]

Thats why you dnt buy a :uzi:Mooostang

and having IRS and that supercharged 4.6 is why I bought my Mustang over another LS1 Corvette..

[CPViolation]

Was on the freeway cumin back home from a car show about a week ago out of nowere an Srt neon and a Cobra line up next 2 me they do the 3 honks n we punch it i killed the SRT, but couldnt shake the cobra till about 120, got him by about a car.
The Cobra most likely needed a driver mod. Terminators aren't the easiest cars to drive.

Imageshack is banned?
Oh lord..
Jeff

[mike302]

I think the LS1 is a well build car cuz even tho it may be a bit slower stock motor than the Cobra they need a supercharger to compete with us!! LS1 supercharged vs Cobra supercharged?? You get the picture!

We'll see who could handle the most boost and most power:kick:"REMEMBER WE GOT THE FORGED MOTORS!!!" The 03-04 cobras were made low compression and the super charger is there to make up for the low compression, and LSlows are made with high compression and built to make the power all motor, they are(PUSH ROD VS. MODULAR) and WE GOT THE FORGED MOTORS!!!

GET DA PICTURE NOW!

[chuckie669]

Holy sheepshit batman. The whole ford forum just joined...

[mike302]

Just Repping Ford

[blackSS01]

^ I love me a good Termi, but that is why I won't buy one. First off, I wouldn't want forged from the get go. I would want to buy my own. I am going to buy my own, from a better aftermarket company, the best they make.

LS1 = 1
Termi = 0

No replacement for displacement is the bottom end.

LS1 = 2
Termi = 0

Looks, could go either way. I think the Termi's look crazy sweet.

LS1 = 3
Termi = 1

Just my .02. I may own a Cobra some day, when my Maro is complete how I want it. Aftermarket is the way to go, for parts. I wouldn't want my motor, S/C or Forged, I would want to do it myself. Again, not hating, just IMHO.

[blackSS01]

I should also note, that I have a mechanic that I work with that does all my work dirt cheap. So forging my bottom end, when I do my 383 won't be too bad at all. Motor rebuild for prolly $500 or so, not including parts. :nana:

[CPViolation]

^ I love me a good Termi, but that is why I won't buy one. First off, I wouldn't want forged from the get go. I would want to buy my own. I am going to buy my own, from a better aftermarket company, the best they make.

LS1 = 1
Termi = 0

No replacement for displacement is the bottom end.

LS1 = 2
Termi = 0

Looks, could go either way. I think the Termi's look crazy sweet.

LS1 = 3
Termi = 1

Just my .02. I may own a Cobra some day, when my Maro is complete how I want it. Aftermarket is the way to go, for parts. I wouldn't want my motor, S/C or Forged, I would want to do it myself. Again, not hating, just IMHO.
One of the nice things about a Terminator motor is it has great grunt like big blocks of old. What is the displacement of a Terminator motor?
I had the IRS modded to get rid of wheel hop which these cars are notorious for. It tears up half-shafts and the rear end. Also an IRS cover brace is a plus. Once you fix the IRS or convert to solid axle, game over from a dig.
Jeff

[thuss239]

Just courious what the normal "bolt on mods" makes for rwhp for a WS6 or SS? I cant imagine many beating the normal 460rwhp bolt on cobra on the street...

[CPViolation]

Just courious what the normal "bolt on mods" makes for rwhp for a WS6 or SS? I cant imagine many beating the normal 460rwhp bolt on cobra on the street...
Not sure about the GM's
Ford lied about the true HP. Supposed to be 390 crank. With just a CAI my car put down 419 RWHP on a Dynojet about 50 ft. above sea level. Then again it weighs 36xx lbs.
The biggest problem with Terminators is getting the power to the ground.
That's why the IRS now has Derlin, urethane bushings, Griggs GR-40 suspension w/ adjustable Koni coil overs, tubular K-member full length subs, Brembo GT's and an IRS cover brace. Not really much Ford left underneath the car.
Jeff

[tigersport14]

Just Repping Ford

reppin ford on a GM site?........:itsok::gtfo:

[blackSS01]

I would say, a bolt on F-Body vs Bolt on Cobra, the Cobra takes the cake. I would also say that a bolt on F-Body is looking at maybe 380 rwhp with total bolt ons. They are both demons of different worlds. Totally different cars.

[mike302]

reppin ford on a GM site?........:itsok::gtfo:

YUp




of what I seen of it takes a lot to for a 383 stroker to take out a cobra and if it does then thats when the Whipple or Kennebell comes in to play with out even having to build the engine up! unless you want to shut down the competition and pull out the 3.4 whipple or 2.8H KenneBell

[blackSS01]

YUp




of what I seen of it takes a lot to for a 383 stroker to take out a cobra and if it does then thats when the Whipple or Kennebell comes in to play with out even having to build the engine up! unless you want to shut down the competition and pull out the 3.4 whipple or 2.8H KenneBell

Oh, 383 isn't all I am doing. Or at least have planned in my head. (money flow is very inconsistant). I am doing a low compression 383 with turbo or ATI. Would like a TT setup but know that really isn't what I would want in the long run. (Spur of the moment) But then again, the Ford is already S/C then having to go aftermarket with a S/C. It really is like comparing Apples to Oranges. But I do like your guys attitudes, you Cobra owners on this thread sound better then the guys on previous threads. Either way, the more you pay, the more you play :cheers:

[tigersport14]

YUp




of what I seen of it takes a lot to for a 383 stroker to take out a cobra and if it does then thats when the Whipple or Kennebell comes in to play with out even having to build the engine up! unless you want to shut down the competition and pull out the 3.4 whipple or 2.8H KenneBell

i paid 9k for my 98 t/a couple thousand dollars later i have a 12 second car. how much did you pay for your 12 second car? 20-25k? might as well go ahead and buy a gt500! you can pay even more for just a 12 second car! genius!

[tigersport14]

YUp




of what I seen of it takes a lot to for a 383 stroker to take out a cobra and if it does then thats when the Whipple or Kennebell comes in to play with out even having to build the engine up! unless you want to shut down the competition and pull out the 3.4 whipple or 2.8H KenneBell

but then again it all comes to run what you brought, and American muscle beats rice any day :Patriot:

[mike302]

i paid 9k for my 98 t/a couple thousand dollars later i have a 12 second car. how much did you pay for your 12 second car? 20-25k? might as well go ahead and buy a gt500! you can pay even more for just a 12 second car! genius!

try 11s, if you guys want to go with low pricing then a foxbody 5.0 would cost like 2-5K and 89-92 5.0s came with forged internals and could handle 450+Hp easy and with 10K or less it's light out!

I had a 85 5.0 hatch payed $2,800 for it and put in like 3-4.5K and was taking out ss easy

[Corona-Extra]

kids these days.....

[N20LT4]

Some of you guys are forgetting the fact that your are comparing a forced-induction car to a naturally aspirated V8! A 65-cubic-inch displacement advantage is not going to balance the efficiency of a supercharged motor. It's funny how you never heard of the '96-'98, '99 & '01 Cobra owners comparing their cars to the LS1's - only up until Ford wen't the factory supercharged route. Why do you think they chose that route? Duh...

It sometimes seems like i'm the only guy around here that doesn't have to sweat a terminator...I chose the power adder route, and I drive an LT1 car. I can't wait to see more LS1 guys invest in their short blocks so they can put up better #'s then these little 281-cubed Ford motors put out!

try 11s, if you guys want to go with low pricing then a foxbody 5.0 would cost like 2-5K and 89-92 5.0s came with forged internals and could handle 450+Hp easy and with 10K or less it's light out!

I had a 85 5.0 hatch payed $2,800 for it and put in like 3-4.5K and was taking out ss easy

Lights out huh? Unless your running 10's, it looks like it's going to be lights out for you! 250# jet's in now...I am in Sacramento, not to far from you...Wanna race???

[blackSS01]

:cheers: I can't wait either, til I can dump money into my car. N20LT4 :lmao: Slowly but surely I am getting there.

[mike302]

Some of you guys are forgetting the fact that your are comparing a forced-induction car to a naturally aspirated V8! A 65-cubic-inch displacement advantage is not going to balance the efficiency of a supercharged motor. It's funny how you never heard of the '96-'98, '99 & '01 Cobra owners comparing their cars to the LS1's - only up until Ford wen't the factory supercharged route. Why do you think they chose that route? Duh...

It sometimes seems like i'm the only guy around here that doesn't have to sweat a terminator...I chose the power adder route, and I drive an LT1 car. I can't wait to see more LS1 guys invest in their short blocks so they can put up better #'s then these little 281-cubed Ford motors put out!

they just wanted to try something new I guess with the S/C route, have you heard of the 2000 Cobra R making 385HP all motor out the factory??????

Ford could make some good power naturally aspirated!!!!

and for the 96-01 cobras, they 96-98was the competition for the older camaros once the 01-03 ss came out then yes the 99 and up cobras were not enough, they didn't do much to them because they were already starting up the idea for the 03-04 cobras and were holding off for those bad boys to shut down the competition

Lights out huh? Unless your running 10's, it looks like it's going to be lights out for you! 250# jet's in now...I am in Sacramento, not to far from you...Wanna race???

Nitrous huh thats what it takes:nono:

Let me bolt this up and some other goodies up that I have at home and lets play then:kick::

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/epa_94303/DSC00464.jpg

[thuss239]

i paid 9k for my 98 t/a couple thousand dollars later i have a 12 second car. how much did you pay for your 12 second car? 20-25k? might as well go ahead and buy a gt500! you can pay even more for just a 12 second car! genius!

9K is a good deal, it must have a lot of miles on the clock. What mods do you have?

And a GT500 is nowhere near 20-25k, more like 50k...do your homework genius!

[tigersport14]

9K is a good deal, it must have a lot of miles on the clock. What mods do you have?

And a GT500 is nowhere near 20-25k, more like 50k...do your homework genius!

notice i said you can pay even more genius

[blackSS01]

Ok, I am going to try to end this. Lets see how this goes. You are comparing a Forced Induction vs. N/A. What do you think is going to win. Yes the LS1 is more cubes. But it isn't enough cubes to over compansate for the S/C. Ford acually knew what they were doing with the Cobra (for once). The Cobra is a great car, I would certainly drive one. But the LS1 has much more potential. People with aftermarket S/C on their Cobras, plus the Cobra being much more expensive to get your hands on it, equals disaster. For the heavily modded Cobra owners, think about the money that is dumped into the Cobra. Right away, its just a little bit to make crazy power. But then as diff S/C come into play and such, it is all out the window. For the price of a Cobra, and to HEAVILY MOD it, I could buy a LS1 with crazy high miles. Build a 383 TT setup and it is out the window for Ford. More Cubes, equals more power ALL THE TIME. No replacement for displacment. Either way, both are better then rice. Either way, both are awesome cars. Either way, both can be super crazy. And just for the Cobra owners to note. Fastest CAM ONLY INTERNAL MOD F-Body runs low 10's. Its just how much you want to pay. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG :lol:

[mike302]

we could get along all I said was my opinion, also with just like 2-3K a cobra could be a 10 sec car with the right driver and traction

[Cali Night Stalker]

Where the F*ck did all these Cobra people cum from i thot this was a LS1 website?:ripped: Is this now a debate between Ford and GM :wtf: r u serious?! They always bin a step behind!! Compare the 02 WS6 vs 02 Cobra oh wait they didnt have one. They had to figure out how to compete with the LS1 and they couldnt do it all Motor so they had to add a WHAT SUPERCHARGER please :loser: GM=better,stronger motors :true:

[blackSS01]

Like I said, you Cobra owners on this thread are much better then some of the other threads. Not bashing any of you, you guys have nice cars. I would certainly own a Cobra if my Maro didn't take all of my money and I could find one that is a reasonable price around my area. Last Cobra I saw in my area was 25K and a Vert. I hate Verts, never owned one, never will. But that is just my .02. Believe it or not, I hate my T-tops. Wish I would have had a hard top. And regardless of what brand you drive, when modding comes into play. All brands go out the window, because it is no longer all stock.

[mike302]

Where the F*ck did all these Cobra people cum from i thot this was a LS1 website?:ripped: Is this now a debate between Ford and GM :wtf: r u serious?! They always bin a step behind!! Compare the 02 WS6 vs 02 Cobra oh wait they didnt have one. They had to figure out how to compete with the LS1 and they couldnt do it all Motor so they had to add a WHAT SUPERCHARGER please :loser: GM=better,stronger motors :true:

you sound pretty confident, you wanna run em

[Cali Night Stalker]

Shur i get my car back in Sept. just dropped it off yesterday gettin it detailed!! :rotfl:

[mike302]

Shur i get my car back in Sept. just dropped it off yesterday gettin it detailed!! :rotfl:

alright

[Rhinohuey]

Yes, heat soak.

The thing about the heat soak is true. Cobras are super sensitive to how hot the engine is. I know a guy with an 04 that goes to the races alot. I've raced him more times than I can count and every time we go after he has ran a few times its pretty much a driver's race, but if we go after his car has had time to cool down, he blows me away everytime...not even close at all.

[2-bowties&abird]

i haven't come across a cobra since i did my cam/headers but i damn sure can't wait to try one. there are a few other special edition mustangs running around i'd like to get a hold of too.

[mike302]

yea the reason why heat soak happens even more is because the actual intercooler is under the S/C, which sucks

[2-bowties&abird]

you sound pretty confident, you wanna run em

i would love to run you and i'm more confident about mine. i'm just getting started with my mods.

[mike302]

i would love to run you and i'm more confident about mine. i'm just getting started with my mods.

damn I wish you were near by

[Z28_06374]

I think the LS1 is a well build car cuz even tho it may be a bit slower stock motor than the Cobra they need a supercharger to compete with us!! LS1 supercharged vs Cobra supercharged?? You get the picture!


+1

Cobras owners think they are the shit because they can slap on a pulley...wow impressive. :kick:


FI Cobra < FI LS1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUHq_0rnls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNSpp6fKnLk

[00z28bubba]

Ok, I am going to try to end this. Lets see how this goes. You are comparing a Forced Induction vs. N/A. What do you think is going to win. Yes the LS1 is more cubes. But it isn't enough cubes to over compansate for the S/C. Ford acually knew what they were doing with the Cobra (for once). The Cobra is a great car, I would certainly drive one. But the LS1 has much more potential. People with aftermarket S/C on their Cobras, plus the Cobra being much more expensive to get your hands on it, equals disaster. For the heavily modded Cobra owners, think about the money that is dumped into the Cobra. Right away, its just a little bit to make crazy power. But then as diff S/C come into play and such, it is all out the window. For the price of a Cobra, and to HEAVILY MOD it, I could buy a LS1 with crazy high miles. Build a 383 TT setup and it is out the window for Ford. More Cubes, equals more power ALL THE TIME. No replacement for displacment. Either way, both are better then rice. Either way, both are awesome cars. Either way, both can be super crazy. And just for the Cobra owners to note. Fastest CAM ONLY INTERNAL MOD F-Body runs low 10's. Its just how much you want to pay. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG :lol:

383... just go up to 408 and it would still be under what you would pay to get ahold of a termi. you would get close to a higher mileage termi if you slapped an fi kit on the 408

[mike302]

[QUOTE=Z28_06374;1539488]+1

Cobras owners think they are the shit because they can slap on a pulley...wow impressive. :kick:


FI Cobra < FI LS1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUHq_0rnls



well that white camaro is bad ass! but it did have a built engine and the cobra was in stock longblock, which can hold up some good power but not that kind of power for so long due to those shitty pistons the rest of the internals are good! that guys engine was probably not running as healthy as it should??? may be???

For the first vid that cobra could've been stock???

It's all true in racing there is no saying may be the ar doesn't have traction, bad clutch, cylinders lost compression, miss shift, etc???

[fast enough Z28]

I personally respect termi's why cause they are fast and american made! Yes I dislike ford but if I could find a good deal on a termi I would buy one. As far as chevy putting on supercharger on the ls1 they made up for it with the ls7. So not needed to beat a termi if thats all your after. There is just no sense argueing about it over and over not many people admit to losing to them. I have lost to one had full exhaust,cai,pulley, and tune. Took him from the start but that was, it of course I was close to stock then. Would love to race him again for fun. Alot more mods since then.:fire:

[Nightmare00]

Met a guy at the track the night I ran with an 03 Termy, running 12.2's all night, and he said that was shitty for him. Said his best run is 12.02, and he has pullies, exhaust, he said headers so I assume lt's, cai, drs, gears (4.10 I believe), and a tune. Still, with bolt ons and a tune an m6 ls1 should run what, mid 12's...?

Not saying you didn't, actually I'm glad to hear this as I would love to race one from a roll :)

Last week at the track the best time I seen from two termis was 12.7 and 12.9. I was running consistent 12.3..... anything is possible.

[N20LT4]

[QUOTE=Z28_06374;1539488]+1

Cobras owners think they are the shit because they can slap on a pulley...wow impressive. :kick:


FI Cobra < FI LS1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUHq_0rnls



well that white camaro is bad ass! but it did have a built engine and the cobra was in stock longblock, which can hold up some good power but not that kind of power for so long due to those shitty pistons the rest of the internals are good! that guys engine was probably not running as healthy as it should??? may be???

For the first vid that cobra could've been stock???

It's all true in racing there is no saying may be the ar doesn't have traction, bad clutch, cylinders lost compression, miss shift, etc???

I've seen several Cobra's pushing over 800rwhp on the stock short block. They can handle it. Here's an example of a termi w/ that kind of power on the stock motor... getting raped by a F.I. LS1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNSpp6fKnLk

[mike302]

[QUOTE=mike302;1539553]

I've seen several Cobra's pushing over 800rwhp on the stock short block. They can handle it. Here's an example of a termi w/ that kind of power on the stock motor... getting raped by a F.I. LS1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNSpp6fKnLk

thats the same vid we are talking about

[Justin23454]

sigh, why do the cobra vs LS1 threads go so far.

[Nightmare00]

sigh, why do the cobra vs LS1 threads go so far.

Beacuse its the best of the two american powerhouses.

Ford vs. Gm does it get any better???

[Justin23454]

ass vs titties

[N20LT4]

ass vs titties

That's a whole nother forum. :dot:

[Nightmare00]

:boobies: