Beat an 03 Saleen

[JwMonE99]

Prom night, thought we would do a little cruizing before the partying.
2 O clock in the morning bump into a nice blue mustang and we rev at each other and I got him to follow me to the side of a street and we both asked to run em at the same time. He asked what I had and I told him a few bolt ons here and there. I asked him what he got and he said just a regular saleen with injectors, pullies, ect. ec.t 30 lbs of boost. And he wants to race for 500 bucks I said no I was thinking of 100-150 then he said 200 so I thought about it and said ok. But he wanted to check my car for nitrous so I let him look he didnt find any. (I roll N/A) we raced and I walked him twice by about 2 lengths. He thinks I cheated and have the nitrous underneath my dash. So he only ended up giving me 50 bucks but oh well I had my fun. BTW I had my date with me next to me in the car and me 2 friends in the back that kept telling me to not race and I will loose.




BTW the guys he were in the "saleen" had no idea that I didnt hear any whinning from his car when he revved and drove it before the race and that I wasnt a moran and knew that he couldnt be holding 30 lbs of boost and I recognized that he still had GT all over his car and the only thing about his saleen was the stick in the front windshield heheh

[01ws6er]

Prom night, thought we would do a little cruizing before the partying.
2 O clock in the morning bump into a nice blue mustang and we rev at each other and I got him to follow me to the side of a street and we both asked to run em at the same time. He asked what I had and I told him a few bolt ons here and there. I asked him what he got and he said just a regular saleen with injectors, pullies, ect. ec.t 30 lbs of boost. And he wants to race for 500 bucks I said no I was thinking of 100-150 then he said 200 so I thought about it and said ok. But he wanted to check my car for nitrous so I let him look he didnt find any. (I roll N/A) we raced and I walked him twice by about 2 lengths. He thinks I cheated and have the nitrous underneath my dash. So he only ended up giving me 50 bucks but oh well I had my fun. BTW I had my date with me next to me in the car and me 2 friends in the back that kept telling me to not race and I will loose.




BTW the guys he were in the "saleen" had no idea that I didnt hear any whinning from his car when he revved and drove it before the race and that I wasnt a moran and knew that he couldnt be holding 30 lbs of boost and I recognized that he still had GT all over his car and the only thing about his saleen was the stick in the front windshield heheh



Haha nice kill. That dude seems like an idiot and when I saw you say 30lbs of boost I was like..uhh, ok, either he's lying or you're lying about beating him lol.
Saleens are slow anyway, 2 guys with yellow saleens a the track last week weren't even breaking 14...And how did you only let him give ya 50 bucks? If you would have lost he woulda tried to make you pay 200...You shoulda beat his ass and took the $$$

P.S: You're V-TEC tape and taped on bumper are the only thing that helped you beat him ;)

[99 Kobra]

Haha nice kill. That dude seems like an idiot and when I saw you say 30lbs of boost I was like..uhh, ok, either he's lying or you're lying about beating him lol.
Saleens are slow anyway, 2 guys with yellow saleens a the track last week weren't even breaking 14...And how did you only let him give ya 50 bucks? If you would have lost he woulda tried to make you pay 200...You shoulda beat his ass and took the $$$

P.S: You're V-TEC tape and taped on bumper are the only thing that helped you beat him ;)

Saleens are slow???? Your opinion will change when you run against one that isn't just a Mustang GT with a body kit and some brake/suspension mods. Some Saleen models are supercharged and are quick. Some of you GM guys pop off without knowing what you are talking about.

[jad628]

Saleens are slow???? Your opinion will change when you run against one that isn't just a Mustang GT with a body kit and some brake/suspension mods. Some Saleen models are supercharged and are quick. Some of you GM guys pop off without knowing what you are talking about.

And some Mustang guys spend more time on GM sites than on Ford ones.

Wonder why that is?

I like Fords and I spent a good bit of time on TCCOA when I had a T-bird. But in all fairness I am quite surprised by the number of Mustang fans who come here to stir the friggin' pot.

Of course Saleens can be fast. I remember a Vega in my high school days that could break into the 9's. Just in this particular case, it seems the "Saleen" was a poser, outmatched, genuinely slow, or the post is bogus. All I know for sure is that it's the internet and I'm happy with the entertainment value.

[third_shift|studios]

way to call his bluff. I still never understood racing for money...it's just good fun

[hutch1999]

sounds like a regular GT good kill

[99 Kobra]

[QUOTE]

And some Mustang guys spend more time on GM sites than on Ford ones.

Wonder why that is?

I like Fords and I spent a good bit of time on TCCOA when I had a T-bird. But in all fairness I am quite surprised by the number of Mustang fans who come here to stir the friggin' pot.

Of course Saleens can be fast. I remember a Vega in my high school days that could break into the 9's. Just in this particular case, it seems the "Saleen" was a poser, outmatched, genuinely slow, or the post is bogus. All I know for sure is that it's the internet and I'm happy with the entertainment value.


Go to SVTPerformance.com and you'll see a lot of GM owners posting.

[jad628]

Go to SVTPerformance.com and you'll see a lot of GM owners posting.


No thanks, it just proves my point (I don't have one, and I have to limit the sites I go to for time's sake). To go to a Ford site and bad-mouth them (by GM lovers) is just as wrong. This ain't a dick measuring contest and it's sad how people let the rivalry gets ugly instead of just acknowledging that each type has it's strengths and faults and enjoying what American muscle is supposed to be about.

I'm not gonna street race anybody, but I'll read about it for entertainment value....shits & giggles, if you will. I think it's a bit childish to feel you have to constantly respond to remarks on ANOTHER site that differs from your perspective (and I'm not singling you out personally, I just mean in general). Sort of a war of words. Just not my thing.

[98T/Aformula.]

[QUOTE=jad628;1466272]


Go to SVTPerformance.com and you'll see a lot of GM owners posting.

Oh this guy.......:Puke:

[N20LT4]

99Kobra does have a point in that all Saleen's aren't slow. I had the misfortune of being lined up against '95 S351R a few years ago and let's just say it wasn't your typical Ford. He was all stock w/ the exception of M/T ET slicks...and pulled an 11.9@12x. His car made it to MM&FF's readers rides section.

[01ws6er]

99Kobra does have a point in that all Saleen's aren't slow. I had the misfortune of being lined up against '95 S351R a few years ago and let's just say it wasn't your typical Ford. He was all stock w/ the exception of M/T ET slicks...and pulled an 11.9@12x. His car made it to MM&FF's readers rides section.

Yes, ALL Saleens aren't slow, but there are also Hondas out there that would whoop just about every car on this site. I saw 3 of them at cecil one night and just laughed at them until I saw them run ( they were the most ragged ass pieces of shit I've ever seen) and they were running 8's!


Saleens are slow???? Your opinion will change when you run against one that isn't just a Mustang GT with a body kit and some brake/suspension mods. Some Saleen models are supercharged and are quick. Some of you GM guys pop off without knowing what you are talking about.

Let me rephrase that....Every Saleen I've ever seen run (at pretty damn close to sea level) were slower than I had expected. 14's isn't very special imo, and I talked to 1 of the 2 guys in the pits 3 weeks ago and he told me that they were both "real" saleens (they both had roots style blowers if that makes them real)...Times please (from stock to far from it) cause if I'm wrong I will be the first to recant my statement. I am speaking from what I have seen, I'm sure there are fast one's out there and better drivers at that, but would you not be wrong for also saying that they are all fast...?

[JwMonE99]

No matter what your going to find a "fast" something.
Till today eclipses was slow untill I found a very streetable one running mid 12s today and not only that but it was a convert.

I was happy enough with 50 bucks, I wanted to just get out of there, its biker week down here and cops were all around

[01ws6er]

No matter what your going to find a "fast" something.
Till today eclipses was slow untill I found a very streetable one running mid 12s today and not only that but it was a convert.

I was happy enough with 50 bucks, I wanted to just get out of there, its biker week down here and cops were all around

Exactly what I'm saying.

[N20LT4]

Yes, ALL Saleens aren't slow, but there are also Hondas out there that would whoop just about every car on this site. I saw 3 of them at cecil one night and just laughed at them until I saw them run ( they were the most ragged ass pieces of shit I've ever seen) and they were running 8's!

With all due respect, were talking about a semi-production tuner car that you can (or could have) wen't and bought off the showroom as-is. You couldn't go to a Honda dealership and buy an 8-second Civic. You had to build it.

Jay

[flash]

http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/2003_s281sc_specs_soec.pdf

Heres a 2003 s/c281

375 hp and 415 torque

[flash]

Heres a non supercharged one......http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/2003_s281_specs_soec.pdf

290hp and 330 torque

[flash]

Heres a one for 99,995.........http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/2008_sterling_card.pdf

[TOMASINO]

[QUOTE]

And some Mustang guys spend more time on GM sites than on Ford ones.

Wonder why that is?

I like Fords and I spent a good bit of time on TCCOA when I had a T-bird. But in all fairness I am quite surprised by the number of Mustang fans who come here to stir the friggin' pot.

Of course Saleens can be fast. I remember a Vega in my high school days that could break into the 9's. Just in this particular case, it seems the "Saleen" was a poser, outmatched, genuinely slow, or the post is bogus. All I know for sure is that it's the internet and I'm happy with the entertainment value.



:ughlaugh:

[N20LT4]

Heres a one for 99,995.........http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/2008_sterling_card.pdf

100 g's for a stroked 4.6L Mustang??? Pleaze. One thing I never like about Ford or it's tuners. In order for them to build a car that can match or beat the competition, it was going to be atleast 1 of 3 things: Very limited in production ('93 Cobra R, '95 Cobra R, '00 Cobra R), Expensive ('00 Cobra R, Saleen/Roush tuner Mustangs, Shelby GT500), or very limited in the number of years of production ('93 R, '95 R, '00 R, 03-04 Cobra). When will they build something at a decent price that can lead the competition and keep it in production for a good amount of years?

[TOMASINO]

No thanks, it just proves my point (I don't have one, and I have to limit the sites I go to for time's sake). To go to a Ford site and bad-mouth them (by GM lovers) is just as wrong. This ain't a dick measuring contest and it's sad how people let the rivalry gets ugly instead of just acknowledging that each type has it's strengths and faults and enjoying what American muscle is supposed to be about.

I'm not gonna street race anybody, but I'll read about it for entertainment value....shits & giggles, if you will. I think it's a bit childish to feel you have to constantly respond to remarks on ANOTHER site that differs from your perspective (and I'm not singling you out personally, I just mean in general). Sort of a war of words. Just not my thing.

:ughlaugh: + 10000

[01ws6er]

With all due respect, were talking about a semi-production tuner car that you can (or could have) wen't and bought off the showroom as-is. You couldn't go to a Honda dealership and buy an 8-second Civic. You had to build it.

Jay

Ahh, I thought this was turning into a this one could that one could thread, that's why I mentioned it.

http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/2003_s281sc_specs_soec.pdf

Heres a 2003 s/c281

375 hp and 415 torque

Very impressive, but is that not flywheel hp that is rated. If using 12% drivertrain loss that's 375x.12=45....374-45=330hp to the wheels. obviously there is something wrong with the cars I have seen or the people driving them are retards.

[N20LT4]

The S281 Extreme's are much more impressive. The standard blown S281's are good for high 12's - low 13's, on street rubber that is.

[flash]

Were the ones you seen 2003s.

[N20LT4]

Were the ones you seen 2003s.

huh?

[flash]

The S281 Extreme's are much more impressive. The standard blown S281's are good for high 12's - low 13's, on street rubber that is.


You talking about the 08 extreme cause I dont think they made one before now.

[flash]

huh?


Talking to 01ws6er

[flash]

100 g's for a stroked 4.6L Mustang??? Pleaze. One thing I never like about Ford or it's tuners. In order for them to build a car that can match or beat the competition, it was going to be atleast 1 of 3 things: Very limited in production ('93 Cobra R, '95 Cobra R, '00 Cobra R), Expensive ('00 Cobra R, Saleen/Roush tuner Mustangs, Shelby GT500), or very limited in the number of years of production ('93 R, '95 R, '00 R, 03-04 Cobra). When will they build something at a decent price that can lead the competition and keep it in production for a good amount of years?

My personal opinion is that they do this to keep the value high and exclusivity.

[N20LT4]

You talking about the 08 extreme cause I dont think they made one before now.

They made Extreme's in the 99-04 body style. Here is a 2003 Extreme with the Berryliam clearcoat paint.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/featuredvehicles/m5lp_0612_mustang_saleen_s281/index.html

[flash]

The one they made for tim allen is pretty sweet

The 1993 RRR.....http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/1993_mustang_rrr_spec_sheet.pdf

[01ws6er]

Talking to 01ws6er

I'm 99.9 % sure they were BOTH 2003 models. I briefly talked to one guy and looked under his hood. They were both yellow with ome kind of stupid decal on the bottm of the door panels. He told me his times and I was like ehh, good job...I figured they'd run with an 03-04 cobra?

[N20LT4]

The one they made for tim allen is pretty sweet

The 1993 RRR.....http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/1993_mustang_rrr_spec_sheet.pdf

I remember when he drove that car to the Jay Leno show back in '93.

[flash]

They made Extreme's in the 99-04 body style. Here is a 2003 Extreme with the Berryliam clearcoat paint.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/featuredvehicles/m5lp_0612_mustang_saleen_s281/index.html

I had looked earlier ,but couldnt find it now I did......http://www.soec.org/literature/specsheets/


They have the spec sheets for everyone ever made.

[N20LT4]

I had looked earlier ,but couldnt find it now I did......http://www.soec.org/literature/specsheets/


They have the spec sheets for everyone ever made.

Wow. Pretty neat how they have specs for all of the years. I gained respect for them back when I saw that 351R run. That thing was nasty! If Ford would have dropped the 5.8L in it's production Mustang it would of gave us GM guys a good run for our money.

[flash]

I have always wondered why they never did that.

[wooddaniel]

100 g's for a stroked 4.6L Mustang??? Pleaze. One thing I never like about Ford or it's tuners. In order for them to build a car that can match or beat the competition, it was going to be atleast 1 of 3 things: Very limited in production ('93 Cobra R, '95 Cobra R, '00 Cobra R), Expensive ('00 Cobra R, Saleen/Roush tuner Mustangs, Shelby GT500), or very limited in the number of years of production ('93 R, '95 R, '00 R, 03-04 Cobra). When will they build something at a decent price that can lead the competition and keep it in production for a good amount of years?


Isn't that the Cadillac logo in the pic? Also, for that price I would rather have the new Z06 anyways

[N20LT4]

Isn't that the Cadillac logo in the pic? Also, for that price I would rather have the new Z06 anyways

Ha Ha sure looks like it. Naw it's some type of special emblem for Saleen.

[wooddaniel]

100K for a mustang...:Potty:

[tonyjnjz]

Saleens are slow???? Your opinion will change when you run against one that isn't just a Mustang GT with a body kit and some brake/suspension mods. Some Saleen models are supercharged and are quick. Some of you GM guys pop off without knowing what you are talking about.

there still slow!!! im not scurred :D unless your talking about an 80k extreme ..i do not fear a sc-281

[tonyjnjz]

Heres a one for 99,995.........http://www.soec.org/datasheets/mustang/2008_sterling_card.pdf

that things badass!!!! to bad its 100k

[N20LT4]

there still slow!!! im not scurred :D unless your talking about an 80k extreme ..i do not fear a sc-281

Only ones to really be worried about are the blown S351's. They will give an F-body a real challenge, but what else would you expect from a blown 5.8L.

[2-bowties&abird]

[QUOTE]

And some Mustang guys spend more time on GM sites than on Ford ones.

Wonder why that is?

I like Fords and I spent a good bit of time on TCCOA when I had a T-bird. But in all fairness I am quite surprised by the number of Mustang fans who come here to stir the friggin' pot.

Of course Saleens can be fast. I remember a Vega in my high school days that could break into the 9's. Just in this particular case, it seems the "Saleen" was a poser, outmatched, genuinely slow, or the post is bogus. All I know for sure is that it's the internet and I'm happy with the entertainment value.

haha, this is like deja vu. i posted almost the same identical thing on the "its also still fun to kill 6 banger stangs lol" thread and that was the same response i got from 99kobra. i think it's funny when someone will ask why are they on a gm forum and they say for information and the only place you see them post is in the kill stories when a mustang gets slaughtered. after that it's always a cobra this and a cobra that, they always use the '03 '04 cobra as a crutch when a mustang gets beat, and when a t/a or camaro beats a cobra....my god it's like a mortal sin and whoever mentions it will be sent to an eternal firey damnation.

[jad628]

Go to SVTPerformance.com and you'll see a lot of GM owners posting.

I did go there just to confirm, and I went only to observe, I did not and will not post.

My findings are that while there are GM posters there, they are nowhere as numerous, nor as brash, as Ford posters here.

[Weston_24]

Saleens are slow???? Your opinion will change when you run against one that isn't just a Mustang GT with a body kit and some brake/suspension mods. Some Saleen models are supercharged and are quick. Some of you GM guys pop off without knowing what you are talking about.

My buddy had one and I was not that impressed at all. I mean it was a very nice car don't get me wrong...but for the $$$ no way. Another one of my buddies had a 03 ZO6 that cost like 10k less and it walked all over it.

[SVG210]

that because you pay for the "saleen" name, and it will run you extra for perf mods. i rather take a stock base car and build it than let some sell out work on it.

[c5z28]

I was gonna say 30 psi, sounds like he is full of shit.

[JwMonE99]

I was gonna say 30 psi, sounds like he is full of shit.

Maybe I didnt explain it but bottom line is he thought just because I was a younger then him he can say whatever he wants about his car and assume im just a little punk kid that doesnt know shit about cars. But I do know enough to know what is the difference between a GT and Saleen and the difference between N/A and being blown. Either way he was full of shit before having to open his mouth.
Moral of the story is not all teens are complete dumbasses.