me vs charger srt-8!

[tigersport14]

so i was driving home this morning on the highway, when i see a red srt-8 coming up on me pretty quick, so i gas it a little bit to match his speed as he was coming up on me, well he got up next to me and we cruised about 80 for 3 seconds then we both hit it at the exact same time. i put about a bumpter to half a car on him til 140, then after that he slowly started pulling on me, then by 155+ he had about 1/4th of a car on me then i hit the rev limiter in 4th(a4) so i had to let off. we both gave the thumbs up, it was great. he told me he had exhaust, great race, very fun.

[jrc1122]

why not do a more practicaly race-- lets say 50-90 maybe 105-- but 155 YIKES.

If i ever do get the balls to do 155 in my car, it sure as hell won't be side by side another car doing the same thing.

[tigersport14]

it was kinda spur of the moment... we just bot hit it.. plus, i dont have a 2nd gear =p

[zggill04]

An auto and it doesn't have second gear but still runs? I'm not at all framiliar with tranny's but I've never heard of an auto tranny still working after a gear goes out. Granted I had an 89 MX6 Gt with a 5 speed, third gear went out on me and I was still able to drive, just couldn't put it in 3rd, but I don't know how an auto skips 2nd gear.

Still cool race.

[Roastem]

so i was driving home this morning on the highway, when i see a red srt-8 coming up on me pretty quick, so i gas it a little bit to match his speed as he was coming up on me, well he got up next to me and we cruised about 80 for 3 seconds then we both hit it at the exact same time. i put about a bumpter to half a car on him til 140, then after that he slowly started pulling on me, then by 155+ he had about 1/4th of a car on me then i hit the rev limiter in 4th(a4) so i had to let off. we both gave the thumbs up, it was great. he told me he had exhaust, great race, very fun.

I am surprised the brick pulled you on top end.

[tigersport14]

An auto and it doesn't have second gear but still runs? I'm not at all framiliar with tranny's but I've never heard of an auto tranny still working after a gear goes out. Granted I had an 89 MX6 Gt with a 5 speed, third gear went out on me and I was still able to drive, just couldn't put it in 3rd, but I don't know how an auto skips 2nd gear.

Still cool race.

1st 3rd and 4th still work, i have to kinda gas it a little bit in first(which gets annoying) to make it to third

[tigersport14]

I am surprised the brick pulled you on top end.

probably had lower gears

[hoss 2000 z-28]

That's very fast, I would not have done that. I am surprised that the SRT-8 pulled you from the top but then again, our 4th gear with 2.73 is not exactly usefull. Aren't SRT-8's equipped with an A5? Seems like their gearing would be quite a bit tighter. I wish my car had more than 4 gears...

[JayplaySS2]

Honorable death. I have an SRT8 300 and they are a few lbs lighter than the Chargers and it walks my bolt on SS. My wife wanted to race and sure enough, it pulled the SS the faster we went when it (SRT) was stock. They run REAL strong with a CAI/Tune (400-415rwhp through the A5), they will shift at 6600rpm when tuned and run 175+. Very fun cars.

[JayplaySS2]

probably had lower gears


We dont have any aftermarket gears available yet.

[Roastem]

Honorable death. I have an SRT8 300 and they are a few lbs lighter than the Chargers and it walks my bolt on SS. My wife wanted to race and sure enough, it pulled the SS the faster we went when it (SRT) was stock. They run REAL strong with a CAI/Tune (400-415rwhp through the A5), they will shift at 6600rpm when tuned and run 175+. Very fun cars.


What is the deal with the single traction rear? I saw a couple vids of SRT's on youtube, guys doin donuts and one tire burning? Couldn't even do a donut right.

[tigersport14]

I wish my car had more than 4 gears...

i hear ya =/ oh well the 4 gears i do have i love =D

[tigersport14]

We dont have any aftermarket gears available yet.

what do they come with?

[stevenm357]

Speed is different everywhere in the US out in Tulsa the roads are strait for boring mile after mile... 155 is still fast as hell but not nearly as scarry when there are no turns coming up. I had my G6 up to 120 (limiter) for quite a few miles when i was out west a while back.

Nice death. Supprised they pulled on you i wonder how my M6 would have faired.

[Roastem]

Nice death. Supprised they pulled on you i wonder how my M6 would have faired.

A hands down victory of course. :xfingers:

[LGT Guru]

Honorable death. I have an SRT8 300 and they are a few lbs lighter than the Chargers and it walks my bolt on SS. My wife wanted to race and sure enough, it pulled the SS the faster we went when it (SRT) was stock. They run REAL strong with a CAI/Tune (400-415rwhp through the A5), they will shift at 6600rpm when tuned and run 175+. Very fun cars.

The curb weight on the charger srt-8 and 300c-srt8 are both 4160. Most people run low 13s some hit high 12s stock, which i could do with my 2000 T/A with just headers and exhaust and i pulled a 13.4 bone stock(which is generally the times is see stock srt-8s run). I would say a bolt on f-body is a good race for a srt8 with the advantage to the f-body, even more so if its stick.

[N20LT4]

Honorable death. I have an SRT8 300 and they are a few lbs lighter than the Chargers and it walks my bolt on SS. My wife wanted to race and sure enough, it pulled the SS the faster we went when it (SRT) was stock. They run REAL strong with a CAI/Tune (400-415rwhp through the A5), they will shift at 6600rpm when tuned and run 175+. Very fun cars.

Walks your "bolt-on" SS? What's wrong with that picture? When you say bolt-on do you mean just intake and cat-back? As you are probably aware bolt-on LS1 cars can push over 350-rwhp with a much lighter curb weight than an SRT-8, and i've seen dozens of full bolt-on LS1's way down in the 12's (a few even in the 11's). I've seen stock SRT-8's get walked by stock LS1 M6's on more than one occasion. Yeah some have gone high 12's in the SRT, but that is pretty darn rare. Most guys are going low 13's all day, right around LS1 territory.

[LGT Guru]

Exactly, when i had my headers, exhaust and intake on mt T/A i was running 12.7-13.2s all day long. It was a M6 and i was never pulled by a stock srt-8 anything. 370-380rwhp is what a stock srt-8 makes to the wheels, my t/A was at 347rwhp after the tune. Which was more than enough for me to put 2-3 cars on a srt-8 from 0-80mph

[JayplaySS2]

Walks your "bolt-on" SS? What's wrong with that picture? When you say bolt-on do you mean just intake and cat-back? As you are probably aware bolt-on LS1 cars can push over 350-rwhp with a much lighter curb weight than an SRT-8, and i've seen dozens of full bolt-on LS1's way down in the 12's (a few even in the 11's). I've seen stock SRT-8's get walked by stock LS1 M6's on more than one occasion. Yeah some have gone high 12's in the SRT, but that is pretty darn rare. Most guys are going low 13's all day, right around LS1 territory.

My 02 SS 6spd has a lid, Magnaflow CB, 85mm TB and UD pulley and from anything above 90+ the SRT8 will gradually walk and keep going (about 2-2.5 cars to 80-130). Anything under that they are pretty close. Above that the advantage goes to the 300. I should have a vid this week or next week doing something totally different running my buddies 2 cars aginst each other. His MS3 2000 Z28 vs his 03 pullied Cobra. I should have the SRT with us and will show you how they pull, maybe my wife has a strong SRT. :yup:

[JayplaySS2]

What is the deal with the single traction rear? I saw a couple vids of SRT's on youtube, guys doin donuts and one tire burning? Couldn't even do a donut right.


Ive seen a few like that, no idea why. Im sure they have a very loose diff. As long as you have a decent tire it will hook in a straight line with both just fine after about 5-10 feet. Works fine but I wouldnt use it like a Camaro and do doughnuts in it.

[N20LT4]

My 02 SS 6spd has a lid, Magnaflow CB, 85mm TB and UD pulley and from anything above 90+ the SRT8 will gradually walk and keep going (about 2-2.5 cars to 80-130). Anything under that they are pretty close. Above that the advantage goes to the 300. I should have a vid this week or next week doing something totally different running my buddies 2 cars aginst each other. His MS3 2000 Z28 vs his 03 pullied Cobra. I should have the SRT with us and will show you how they pull, maybe my wife has a strong SRT. :yup:

I've rode in an SRT-8 Charger before, on several occasions, never a 300 though. It belongs to my brother in law, an Inferno Red Crystal 2006, and yes it is fast. When he was bone-stock (he now has a programmer/cat-back) he wen't up against my brothers '98 Z28 stripper M6. My brother had an LS6 intake, Bellows, K&N FIPK, SLP scoop, ported stock TB, MAF!, Meizure WP, SLP LT's (that sucked in fitment), ORY, 3" cut-out and Dynomax Bullet, 4.10 gears and LS1 Edit tune. The car dyno'd 357/359, and wen't a best of 11.8 in the quarter with that setup. He ran my BIL's SRT-8 and it was no competition. I rode shotgun in the Z28 all three races, and it wasn't even close. So that's why I was trying to clarify the extent of bolt-on LS1 you were referring to.

Oh, and that '98 stripper now makes over 700rwhp on happy juice!

[Roastem]

So, it DOES have a locking diff from the factory, right?

Do you think the HEMI would go well with a 6-speed?

[LGT Guru]

It better because i hear the challenger will have a 6 speed in a year or 2. I also heard that the srt-8 will be makeing around 450hp instead of 425.

[JayplaySS2]

I've rode in an SRT-8 Charger before, on several occasions, never a 300 though. It belongs to my brother in law, an Inferno Red Crystal 2006, and yes it is fast. When he was bone-stock (he now has a programmer/cat-back) he wen't up against my brothers '98 Z28 stripper M6. My brother had an LS6 intake, Bellows, K&N FIPK, SLP scoop, ported stock TB, MAF!, Meizure WP, SLP LT's (that sucked in fitment), ORY, 3" cut-out and Dynomax Bullet, 4.10 gears and LS1 Edit tune. The car dyno'd 357/359, and wen't a best of 11.8 in the quarter with that setup. He ran my BIL's SRT-8 and it was no competition. I rode shotgun in the Z28 all three races, and it wasn't even close. So that's why I was trying to clarify the extent of bolt-on LS1 you were referring to.

Oh, and that '98 stripper now makes over 700rwhp on happy juice!You do realize that I am comparing my 2 equally high 12 cars. Nothing close to 11.80. I know of plenty bolt on LS1's that run in the 13's and 12's with average drivers and that would put them neck and neck in the 1/4 and of course the SRT will pull more above 100-110 (usual end of the quater for high 12 sec cars). :yup:

This thread is about being beat by an SRT8.

[JayplaySS2]

My wife is also correcting me about our "race". We had the Diablo/CAI at the time. I could have sworn we didnt. Oh well, I wont hear the end of that one from her.

[JayplaySS2]

So, it DOES have a locking diff from the factory, right?

Do you think the HEMI would go well with a 6-speed?


They are ALL too big for a manual I would think.

[Roastem]

C'mon jay, the 03 put 600+ rwhp through the 6-speed. What do ya mean too big? My gf is the only one who thinks that way. :chuckles:

If the new Challenger comes with a 6-speed and 450 HP, you guys might find me on an SRT-8 board. :no: Pray church pray

[JayplaySS2]

C'mon jay, the 03 put 600+ rwhp through the 6-speed. What do ya mean too big? My gf is the only one who thinks that way. :chuckles:

If the new Challenger comes with a 6-speed and 450 HP, you guys might find me on an SRT-8 board. :no: Pray church pray


An 03 is the same size as an F-body but 4000+ lbs is tough on a trans. The GT500's do it though. The Challenger will weigh even more, most guys on SRTforums say its only 40lbs light than a Charger SRT8. I bet if and when you do drive a Challenger you will find it hard to get back into the Camaro, the quality is just night and day and probably the biggest reason for me selling the Camaro now. It runs like a C5 or better and feels as comfy and quiet as my house, really.

[LGT Guru]

The challenger is just over 3800lbs, not 4000. They are nice, they only car dodge has put out recently i would look at. But the new g8 GT out performs the charger and i have seen them with just a tune run a 13flat, the G8 GXP is what i wanna look at, the ls3 with a 6 speed manual in 4 door sedan. The G8 has some amazing handling for a 4,000lbs car

[Roastem]

Too many options, not enough moolah.... :sulk:

[LGT Guru]

The G8 GT is the l76 alum block that GM uses for trucks. The G8 GT base is 29,990 or something like that just under 30grand and 33,000 fully loaded. The GXP will be 34,000 and 37,000 fully loaded.

[Y2KArcticSS]

I think I raced the same car (or one just like it) the other day!! Was on my way home from work, he pulled up on me at around 60, the second I dropped to 3rd (M6), he punched it. I did the same, and we were side by side til I had to shift, he pulled only for a second, then I was right back on him, we were almost dead even til 120, and we both shut em down because of traffic. He gave the thumbs up, and turned off down somewhere near Glenpool.

[JayplaySS2]

The challenger is just over 3800lbs, not 4000. They are nice, they only car dodge has put out recently i would look at. But the new g8 GT out performs the charger and i have seen them with just a tune run a 13flat, the G8 GXP is what i wanna look at, the ls3 with a 6 speed manual in 4 door sedan. The G8 has some amazing handling for a 4,000lbs car

Dodges' website below, go to "technical data" and then "capacities/weights" and it shows 4140 wet. Maybe Dodge is wrong? The Chargers run around 4190+ so thats the common "40 LB" difference being used on the forums. The last SRT engineer session said they will be right around 4000. Here is the spec link to the 2008 Dodge Challenger.


http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/VehicleCompare.jsp


Yes, the G8 is a badass to, not to mention the one to kill them all, the CTS-V with a bit weaker LS9. :yup:

[MikeSomething]

Yea, but when you say "bolt on SS" and you don't even have headers...

Bolton SS =
Lid, Pulley, PP TB, Intake Manifold, MAF, Headers, Catback etc...

[JayplaySS2]

Yea, but when you say "bolt on SS" and you don't even have headers...

Bolton SS =
Lid, Pulley, PP TB, Intake Manifold, MAF, Headers, Catback etc...


Are you serious? Let me get this straight, since I dont have LT's, though I have all the other mods listed....youre not considering my SS a bolt on? What would YOU call it? :ughlaugh:

[LGT Guru]

Lol,i agree, bolt on means you have 1 or more bolt ons, yes you are horribly restricting that car with stock manifolds. You pick up alot of top end with headers, atleast i noticed it.

[Roastem]

I have been reading up on that Pontiac G8 GT. It looks like a real winner. Kinda like a 3-series BMW with a factory LSX swap.

Now that is the best of both worlds. The hardcore muscle enthusiast will love the powertrain, and the handling/manners guys will love the chassis.

Damn it Pontiac, there you go fkn up my next vehicle plans by throwing in more competition.

sorry for the :Ot: post

[JayplaySS2]

I have been reading up on that Pontiac G8 GT. It looks like a real winner. Kinda like a 3-series BMW with a factory LSX swap.

Now that is the best of both worlds. The hardcore muscle enthusiast will love the powertrain, and the handling/manners guys will love the chassis.

Damn it Pontiac, there you go fkn up my next vehicle plans by throwing in more competition.

sorry for the :Ot: post


I cant tell you how fun it is having a big 4 dr that huals azz. Nobody expects you to win a street race and without running modded LSX's and Cobra's youd be surprised what you can beat. Very fun. :flex:

I still prefer an Auto though. I wouldnt want to shift a luxury car myself and it makes for more consistent races.

[LGT Guru]

Hell noone thinks my legacy can do anything, even the STI guys usually dont think im worth racing. I get laughed at by alot of ls1 and lt1 guys when i thow them a rev, but my best time was a 13.67 so i can beat most lt1 cars and give the ls1s a good run if they arent modded to much.

[N20LT4]

I cant tell you how fun it is having a big 4 dr that huals azz. Nobody expects you to win a street race and without running modded LSX's and Cobra's youd be surprised what you can beat. Very fun. :flex:

I still prefer an Auto though. I wouldnt want to shift a luxury car myself and it makes for more consistent races.

Luxury?

[LGT Guru]

Hes talking about the 300c

[N20LT4]

Hes talking about the 300c

I know.

[JayplaySS2]

Luxury?

What?

[MnLS1]

What is the deal with the single traction rear? I saw a couple vids of SRT's on youtube, guys doin donuts and one tire burning? Couldn't even do a donut right.


on march's cover road and track (I think) there is an srt8 challenger burning out w/ only one wheel wonder lol! I thought it was funny as hell

[JayplaySS2]

on march's cover road and track (I think) there is an srt8 challenger burning out w/ only one wheel wonder lol! I thought it was funny as hell

Mine spins both tires fine. Here was the first one that came up on Youtube "doing doughnuts", they spin them both just fine otherwise they wouldnt be as quick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkPvtUnyyI

Here is a brand new one, look at the window sticker. Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpwEQflK0Ek&feature=related

[chuckie669]

That's one classy burnout...

[Roastem]

Mine spins both tires fine. Here was the first one that came up on Youtube "doing doughnuts", they spin them both just fine otherwise they wouldnt be as quick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkPvtUnyyI

Here is a brand new one, look at the window sticker. Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpwEQflK0Ek&feature=related


Hey, in that first vid, thats drivin the mothafka there son, that was bullshit in the second one though...grandma can do that.

[JayplaySS2]

Hey, in that first vid, thats drivin the mothafka there son, that was bullshit in the second one though...grandma can do that.

I think it was Grandma. :ughlaugh:

[N20LT4]

I'm just waiting for anyday now for this to be called SRT8.com (Christ, please spare me)

[Deuuuce]

Challengers have LSDs, LX SRT-8s do not, but spin both, of course.

[Roastem]

I'm just waiting for anyday now for this to be called SRT8.com (Christ, please spare me)

Well, technically it is still on topic, since an LS1 raced an SRT8. For this thread, it is kosher to discuss the SRT-8 vehicle, I would think.

Now this is off topic: I ran an 8.3 @ 97 mph in the eighth about a year ago. Traction issues in 1st and 2nd, which hurt my ET. But judging from the trap I figured she would run a low seven with slicks. Your car trapped 97, and it looks like you did run a low 11 in the 125 range, which I guessed from my eighth mile time that my car would run around that in 1/4. What do you think N20? Should I be able to click off an 11-sec slip in current form?

[N20LT4]

Well, technically it is still on topic, since an LS1 raced an SRT8. For this thread, it is kosher to discuss the SRT-8 vehicle, I would think.

Now this is off topic: I ran an 8.3 @ 97 mph in the eighth about a year ago. Traction issues in 1st and 2nd, which hurt my ET. But judging from the trap I figured she would run a low seven with slicks. Your car trapped 97, and it looks like you did run a low 11 in the 125 range, which I guessed from my eighth mile time that my car would run around that in 1/4. What do you think N20? Should I be able to click off an 11-sec slip in current form?

If you can manage to get your 1/8 down to an 8-flat, 7.9 territory, yes I would imagine you could hit 11's. Good tires, like Dr's, are a neccessity when attempting to go that quick. With your power, and some good driving, I think you can/should be hitting 11's!

[Roastem]

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Now if I can just improve on a pedestrian 2.15 60 ft. :sulk:

Gettin' some slicks is going to be key.

[N20LT4]

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Now if I can just improve on a pedestrian 2.15 60 ft. :sulk:

Gettin' some slicks is going to be key.

I have yet to run this car on slicks. I have 305/45-18 Nitto 555R's out back. Not that it couldn't handle it, I have a 9" in the rear.

[JayplaySS2]

I have yet to run this car on slicks. I have 305/45-18 Nitto 555R's out back. Not that it couldn't handle it, I have a 9" in the rear.

When you get your car tuned, youre not going to hook at all with those but Im sure you know that. Got any pics of your car with those tires on it?

[N20LT4]

I have my Michelin Pilot Sport 295/35's on there at the moment. They match the Pilot Sport's in the front, which are 275/40zr18. As you can see they are just about done due to a massive nitrous burnout last weekend. I'm going to be putting the Nitto's back on next week and i'll take photo's.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/n20lt4/295S.jpg

[JayplaySS2]

I wish they would sell Nitto's or M/T's for $99. :yup:

Looks good.

[N20LT4]

I wish they would sell Nitto's or M/T's for $99. :yup:

Looks good.

yeah that would be great.

Thanx!