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fleegle41
12-09-2005, 08:50 PM
I have a question...I will probably be getting the last new camaro ever sold from a dealership. It is a beautiful black 02 M6 SS fully loaded from the factory and all the factory slp you can get. anyways, it has been sitting on the showroom floor since they quit making them in 02 and has been started up by the dealer a few times since then just to let it run but is there anything that can go bad on them over time without use? fluids? gaskets? anything that wears with time?

LS1Z28
12-09-2005, 09:18 PM
Availability of replacement parts.:jk: The car should come with a 3/36,000 warranty effective the day you purchase it. If it has been put in to service prior to the day you get it than your warranty will expire on the in service date or has already expired. Have them replace the battery with a new one before you take delivery and remember if the try and sell you a warranty for it the effective date is the day you purchase it. So if it's a 3/36,000 warranty they are selling you it won't be any good and runs concurrent with the manufaturers warranty unless the manufacturers warranty has expired. hope this helps.

SS#1531
12-09-2005, 09:31 PM
Damn, what a find! As stated above, the warranty should start from the day you purchase the car, so you don't have anything to worry about. I would probably change all the fluids, maybe new tires since those may be getting hard by now, but other than that you should be fine. It's only been sitting for three years, and in a climate controled building at that. Congrat's on the awesome find!

fleegle41
12-09-2005, 10:51 PM
Yeah i shouldent have any problems with the dealership cause my dad is actually the President, but physically it should be in as good of shape as it was when it came off the assembly line?

sg5492
12-10-2005, 09:22 AM
I think it will be in great shape. I have a 99 SS with only 6,500 miles on it. We don't get it out much and I have never had anything go bad on it. GEAT FIND you will love it.

third_shift|studios
12-10-2005, 10:49 AM
WOW!!!! man...that's frakin' sweet!

99PontTA
12-10-2005, 11:05 AM
Yeah i shouldent have any problems with the dealership cause my dad is actually the President, but physically it should be in as good of shape as it was when it came off the assembly line?yer dad is pres bush....dam

fleegle41
12-11-2005, 02:00 AM
so as badly as i want to throw a monster cam in there or run it on the bottle or somethin for big power, i also want to keep its clean slick newness for as long as possible. I was thinkin just some good lookin wheels (has the 10 spoke chromes now), some regular bolt ons, a couple free mods, and maybe somethin mild like the ls6 cam, flp's, and it has the slp center mount exhaust...i think ill leave that on there, maybe throw a dump on. any changes/suggestions?

Hurley711
12-11-2005, 06:19 AM
How much are you getting it for? How much did they want for it if they weren't selling it to the son of the president of the Co.? What was the original asking price??

sonnyred
12-11-2005, 12:49 PM
How can a car as beautiful as that sit in a showroom all this time? AMAZING isn't it?

fleegle41
12-11-2005, 02:35 PM
Its been sitting there since i was a junior in high school...thought I was getting it for bday, cmas, graduation ect every year only to be dissapointed. I am now a junior in college hoping its gonna be my college grad present. not sure what the sticker price says but after all options i remember it being in the 40's. Anyone encourage or discourage a tr224 or nitrous or something big? hate to fuck up a new car but i like power...

ss~zoso~ss
12-11-2005, 03:29 PM
your best bet is to leave it stock, buy it as an investment. If it is indeed the last camaro ever made, and they never bring the camaro back i 1-20 yrs that thing will be worth well over 100,000$. Keep it stock and keep the miles low, that is one camaro i wouldnt drive much.

sonnyred
12-11-2005, 03:40 PM
It would be living in my house, if igot it .I take, this car is not for sale?

fleegle41
12-11-2005, 04:34 PM
haha no this car is not for sale. And i dont think it was the last one made (off the assembly line), just the last new (hasnt been titled to anyone) camaro. I know it will still be worth alot in years to come but damn i really want to make it fast! maybe just some bolt ons, LT's, perhaps an ls6 cam, SFC's, STB, keep the SLP centermount exhaust just add a dump, and im temped to get some of the red Z06 calipers to compliment the red outlined SS badging.

sonnyred
12-11-2005, 04:49 PM
I know the last one made was a z28 and it auctioned off for about 80 thousand, i believe.

SS#1531
12-13-2005, 03:36 AM
Forget about keeping it stock as an investment. It will never be worth enough to sacrifice the fun you will have by modding it. The TR224 cam is very popular, and one I plan on buying for my car soon. I'd stay away from nitrous, but that's just me.

TransAm45
12-13-2005, 08:50 AM
Well if you are getting it for a grad present..I take it you are not paying a dime. Which by the way is bad ass :notworthy: . But if it is really the last untitled camaro, then why dont you take it for FREE and go buy yourself an older one that you can play around with and get your power out of :drivin: . Even if you have to wait a year or two to get another one, that camaro will be worth some money if you can prove it is the last untitled one and keep it stock with low miles. Just My opinion...

sonnyred
12-13-2005, 03:58 PM
If you upgrade it don't scew up,so many guys are sorry after.

Tobynine9
12-14-2005, 07:46 AM
your best bet is to leave it stock, buy it as an investment. If it is indeed the last camaro ever made, and they never bring the camaro back i 1-20 yrs that thing will be worth well over 100,000$. Keep it stock and keep the miles low, that is one camaro i wouldnt drive much.

That's a cool idea. I don't know how many Boomers I've talked to who say, "Oh, yeah. I had a model X car with X engine back when I was young. One just sold for $100,000+ at auction. Wish I'd have kept it and maintained it."

But that's the problem. We don't buy our cars to collect them (most of us don't at least). We buy them to drive them. That's what the Boomers did and they enjoyed them when they had them.

I mentioned that once to my ma. "Hey, I should just keep it in the garage and keep the miles off of it. Someday it'll be worth a goldmine!" Her reply: "Ha Ha Ha Ha! You'll never be able to own a car like that and not drive it."

sonnyred
12-14-2005, 12:01 PM
Just saw a 69 camaro last week get auctioned off for 81,000 here in s.fl.

MadSeason
12-15-2005, 09:58 AM
be careful with mods, your dad may be the pres, but certian things will void the warranty out. If you want to add a ton more power I suggest getting a used ls1 for around 12k

ibanez7
12-15-2005, 10:42 AM
Great find!!! Once the car is yours do what you want with it! If you going to build it up, build smart and build from the ground up!

This is a list of some of the parts you can get!! Just don’t make the mistake of building up the engine and nothing else, you will do nothing but wreck the car that way!

First off when modding don’t believe the HP claims that performance parts companies post, especially SLP. Their posted HP numbers are high, and not realistic.

Suspension and chassis:

The SS comes with the 1LE suspension package, beefier sway bars, spring, etc. Take it all off and replace them, with something like BMR or SPOHN.
What’s the point of building up and engine if you can’t grip and you’re just going to twist!
Lowering springs and an adj. pan-hard: keeps the car hugging the ground and keeps the rear-end straight.
Lower control arms: are must, they eliminate wheel hop!
Sub-frame connectors: tighten up the car, excellent jacking locations, and prevent frame twisting.
Trans-mount: replace the weak rubber trans-mount with a poly.

Rearend:
Some people nuke theirs when stock, some people have 470rwhp and are running the factory rearend. Just research it, and replace as needed!!

Brakes:

Also your idea with the Z06 calliper’s, great idea, 4 pistons calipers will definitely improve your stopping. You can even grind down the corvette embossment, and replace with a camaro vinyl sticker. Speaking of brakes replace the rotors, f-body rotors warp. Most aftermarket rotors that are dimpled or slotted with thick material webbing will work fine. Stay away from cross-drilled, they usually develop surface cracks.

Transmission:
If the car is an M6, replace the crappy hurst/slp shifter with a PRO 5.0 shifter w/an angled short stick.
If the car is an A4, replace the torque converter with a stall converter, but with a stall that matches your cam.

Engine and exhaust:
First thing to do engine related, is the open her up, let the car breath.
I agree with the above statement, keep the center exhaust and pick up a flowtech exhaust dump, with an electric switch, nothing flows better!
Headers, long tubes all the way, unless your doing a turbo build, then its custom headers. There are many header companies out there. Just do your research,
I have hooker headers and love them. Make sure to go ceramic coated.
LID, GM High tech performance mag, rated SLPs lid as the best.
MAF, the factory one is fine, unless your making over 550rwhp
Intake, 01 and 02 fbodys come with the ls6 intake, keep it! It will work fine for a long time.

CAM, a 224 cam is a mild great every day driver cam. Just make sure to install headers before you install a cam or you will choke out your heads!!
Also if you ever go to a turbo build, a 224 is great for that too. Then you could be in the 850rwhp range!!!


This is just a small list of things to do, if you have any questions just pm me! Between sites like this one, LS1tech and LSall, you will definitely find answers!

The best order to build:
Engine bolt-ons before, chassis, suspension and brakes is fine, but make sure you build up the suspension, chassis and brakes before installing cams, nitrous or any other power-adders. Plan your build up too, just don’t buy parts randomly. A lot of guys and f-body cars get screwed by not following those two tips!

One last thing, don’t forget about the freebie mods. Port the throttle body yourself (if you can) and do a bumpstop mod.
Install university, has the instructions!


Goodluck and congrats!

BIG D's SS
12-15-2005, 10:53 AM
so as badly as i want to throw a monster cam in there or run it on the bottle or somethin for big power, i also want to keep its clean slick newness for as long as possible. I was thinkin just some good lookin wheels (has the 10 spoke chromes now), some regular bolt ons, a couple free mods, and maybe somethin mild like the ls6 cam, flp's, and it has the slp center mount exhaust...i think ill leave that on there, maybe throw a dump on. any changes/suggestions?

If I was going throught the trouble of a cam swap I would go big with it. To hell with a LS6 cam. The value is only what someone will pay for it. My buddy as a SOM 02 SS H/T with 6 miles on it. He is having trouble getting 35,000 out of it. That is a perfect car to mod all the way.:drivin:

Stun'nSun'nZ28
12-18-2005, 04:40 PM
Seems there may be more left over new Z28's than you might think !!!
Last time i was searching there were a few in the St. Louis Mo. area , even convertible with R/S aero pkg..
So not really wanting to upset you but there may be more out there..
Still all told i think you've got one hell of a find & hope you take care of it & enjoy it for years to come ....

OL'PAL GARY
:drivin: