02 Z28 vs. LS2 GTO

[DarkSide00]

how many cars do you think the gto would have on me from a dig?, or from a roll?...and what is needed to be neck and neck with the gto

[02fbody35th]

hey man check out youtube their were a couple races with camaro vs. gto the camaro took the flag everytime

[furyev]

the GTO has 400 lbs on a Camaro

[furyev]

Here's a pretty good solid run:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ayYFUMAOi14&feature=related

[THEBRAD]

we have had several runs with my friends and my 00 t/a and stock gtos get walked. bad torque management and weight really kills those cars

[t-rock]

stock ls2's are 350hp and 400 pounds heavier ?

[konigandy6]

stock ls2's are 350hp and 400 pounds heavier ?

400 hp

[dpinson]

you should take him good luck to ya

[blue02Z]

stock ls2's are 350hp and 400 pounds heavier ?

the ls1 gto is rated at 350hp the ls2 is 400hp;)

[ponyboyx04]

yep

[jrc1122]

i raced an Auto LS2 GTO-- I edged out a win, by between 1/2 - 1 car length in the 1/8th mile. (from a dig obviously)

[DarkSide00]

alright so hopefully the race will go well, his is an auto and is completely stock so maybe ill pull ahead

[Lawnman]

I ran a ls2 gto at the track . He redlighted { left early }, and I was granny shifting. I still ran him down by the 1/8th mile. I was pulling away pretty good from the 1/8th on. He was a a4 { no mods } and I was a m6 { exhaust } .

[DarkSide00]

you really think i could beat one stock?

[blue02Z]

i beat an '06 with a CAI and slp catback. he was a m6 and i took him by about a car length at the track 1/8 mile before i had my tune

[dpinson]

you really think i could beat one stock?
YES IT SHOULDNT BE THAT HARD

[TrickStang37]

the GTO has 400 lbs on a Camaro

400lbs is an exaggeration. its closer to 250-300lbs.

[hutch1999]

pretty close race, get a good launch from a dig and you should be ok.

[claytonr]

ya i ran on 06 ls2 (stock, manual) with my 99 ss (borla exhaust, intake) from a dig i had him with a good launch... on the highway from a twenty he got me becuase those cars have a nasty top end and we got the bottom end... so good luck

[OnEbAdReDSS]

hmm i thought we have the top end... or am i mistaken...

[TrickStang37]

ya i ran on 06 ls2 (stock, manual) with my 99 ss (borla exhaust, intake) from a dig i had him with a good launch... on the highway from a twenty he got me becuase those cars have a nasty top end and we got the bottom end... so good luck

why would you have "the bottom end?" Those transmissions are geared better AND the LS2 makes more power throughtout the WHOLE powerband. and their "top end" isn't anything special. Your car would have the same "top end" as them with the same power. Actually, NEARLY ANY car would.

[claytonr]

dammm well i am not really sure power wise all i know is once we both caught traction i pulled like hell on him and right when i shifted to fifth he passed me pretty crazy..but i dunno

[Chris Arnold]

Damn, I've run 13.2 in my '97 vette. I didn't realize that even the LS2 GTOs were doing that. I ran into one and from a roll I pulled away pretty nicely. Maybe it was an auto or a crappy driver.

[whazuupgto]

I have both the gto will probably lose ... I love mine but the independent rear and the weiight, which you really can feel the difference in the two.. is the reason I say the T/A would have the advantage... just my thoughts.. from being able to drive and own both..

[440 rwhp trans am]

damm you guys saying you killing ls2 gto's are a little out there. in a 1/4 mile race the ta should win. but i have beat the shit out of a few f-bodys. i normally get the jump but when i spin into 2nd i start to loose, a4, and im behind 1/2-1 cars at the 1/4 mile. and for the record the a4 was only a .1 second disavantage vs. the m6.

beware just a tune on the ls2 is getting 25-27rwhp. i have seen some get 50+ from headers back, cia, and tune. slap on drags and your toast. roul-duke from this site ran a 13.1 with tune, drags, and a cut out, only $600 in mods on the ls1 gto

[440 rwhp trans am]

and i have both 2

[jrc1122]

damm you guys saying you killing ls2 gto's are a little out there.


I am one of the people who has beat an LS2 (auto) GTO-- I guess I am "a little out there"

??

I think it is pretty much a driver's race, but, you you seem to be hinting around that we are lying. I can't speak for anyone else- But I am not lying, I won-- And I did in the 1/8 mile (marked off) from a dig. And it was in front of several hundred people.

Sorry to disappoint.

[Zedicous]

For you race fans.. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mWzNUupIVp8

[jrc1122]

:Ot:For you race fans.. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mWzNUupIVp8

[Stone]

Depends on the driver. But it should be close

[Chris Arnold]

damm you guys saying you killing ls2 gto's are a little out there. in a 1/4 mile race the ta should win. but i have beat the shit out of a few f-bodys. i normally get the jump but when i spin into 2nd i start to loose, a4, and im behind 1/2-1 cars at the 1/4 mile. and for the record the a4 was only a .1 second disavantage vs. the m6.

beware just a tune on the ls2 is getting 25-27rwhp. i have seen some get 50+ from headers back, cia, and tune. slap on drags and your toast. roul-duke from this site ran a 13.1 with tune, drags, and a cut out, only $600 in mods on the ls1 gto

First you say that we're "a little out there," and then you post a time from a modified GTO that the LS1 F-Bodies and vettes have been doing stock since they were made? To me, that's a little out there. I believe that my 3 runs in less than ideal conditions that netted a 13.5, 13.3, and 13.2 indicated that I have a pretty good chance of doing better than 13.1 on the right track in good conditions.

Chris

[Zedicous]

and i have both 2

But that TA isn't an LS1..

[Raoul-Duke]

like 440rwhp trans am said:
goats really, reallllyyyyy need a pcm tune to be backing up our 350-400hp badging when compared to ls1 f-bods..all the crap we got with the stock tune really holds us back.. i could hardly break 13sec in may at route 66 in joliet when i just had cutouts..with my cai and tune afterwards in nov i ran consistent 13.1x passes with just cai, cutouts, and a pcm tune by nelson performance..and im an auto ls1 goat..soo imagine what the ls2's would do with one. its just that most goats you see are stock or just i/e ones. and that just doesnt cut it when compared to bolt on or i/e ls1 f-bods

[Raoul-Duke]

First you say that we're "a little out there," and then you post a time from a modified GTO that the LS1 F-Bodies and vettes have been doing stock since they were made? To me, that's a little out there. I believe that my 3 runs in less than ideal conditions that netted a 13.5, 13.3, and 13.2 indicated that I have a pretty good chance of doing better than 13.1 on the right track in good conditions.

Chris

dude you have a vette. your nearly 800lbs lighter than me. if i can spend about 600-700 bucks in mods and be as quick as you or faster. im happy..

[440 rwhp trans am]

Depends on the driver. But it should be close

your wrong! lol now you can defend us goats. haha

what i was saying is that your not going to kill a average ls2 gto by 3-4 in the 1/4. maby 1-2.

[Stone]

your wrong! lol now you can defend us goats. haha

what i was saying is that your not going to kill a average ls2 gto by 3-4 in the 1/4. maby 1-2.

:beer:

[LS2Tuner]

Here's a pretty good solid run:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ayYFUMAOi14&feature=related

The GTO is a 04 which is night and day difference.
Most of the time it's a drivers race NOT the car!!!

75% of the people I see that street race have NO clue on being a good drag race driver.

I can also state that 60% of my customers that have drag cars run slower E.T.'s at the track than I do driving there own car. And yes there are MANY ways to drive a auto in correctly also.

[Chris Arnold]

your wrong! lol now you can defend us goats. haha

what i was saying is that your not going to kill a average ls2 gto by 3-4 in the 1/4. maby 1-2.

I agree with this. So, actually it seems we're on the same page. It seems like mid-low 13s would be completely reasonable from the LS2 GTOs. I know I wouldn't take a race with a guy in even a stock LS2 Goat lightly.

Chris

[DarkSide00]

:dance:so what speed do u think would be best to race the gto..from a dig or a roll (and what roll)??

[Raoul-Duke]

:dance:so what speed do u think would be best to race the gto..from a dig or a roll (and what roll)??

honestly IMO i think auto goats have an advantage from a dig. all a4 and m6 cars have the same 3.46 gearing. and for an auto, thats pretty stout..i cut some nice 60' times with mine. and for m6 goats i would think their advantage is from a roll cause their difficult to launch well cause of wheelhop and the irs. but some many people have mastered it like its an f-bod. just takes practice

[Zedicous]

honestly IMO i think auto goats have an advantage from a dig. all a4 and m6 cars have the same 3.46 gearing. and for an auto, thats pretty stout..i cut some nice 60' times with mine. and for m6 goats i would think their advantage is from a roll cause their difficult to launch well due to the irs. but some many people have mastered it like its an f-bod. just takes practice

Sorrybut i have to ask, why do they call them goats?

[Raoul-Duke]

Sorrybut i have to ask, why do they call them goats?

GTO stands for gran turismo omologato or sumtin like that. i think the omolgato means goat in italian or sumtin. it was a term used by ferrari for production cars in the early 60's used for racing or some crap. someone correct me,lol

[TrickStang37]

GTO stands for gran turismo omologato or sumtin like that. i think the omolgato means goat in italian or sumtin. it was a term used by ferrari for production cars in the early 60's used for racing or some crap. someone correct me,lol

i think he is asking why do they call them GOATS. i dont get it either, i just call them GTO's.

[440 rwhp trans am]

i think he is asking why do they call them GOATS. i dont get it either, i just call them GTO's.

please tell me you id not read his post. :lol:

[Raoul-Duke]

i think he is asking why do they call them GOATS. i dont get it either, i just call them GTO's.

its a GTO thing,lol.

and hey 440rwhp trans am. yo man, you ever end up getting nitrous?

[Zedicous]

GTO stands for gran turismo omologato or sumtin like that. i think the omolgato means goat in italian or sumtin. it was a term used by ferrari for production cars in the early 60's used for racing or some crap. someone correct me,lol

Ok, i was just wondering and not really sure which car was being called that.

[dpinson]

GTO stands for gran turismo omologato or sumtin like that. i think the omolgato means goat in italian or sumtin. it was a term used by ferrari for production cars in the early 60's used for racing or some crap. someone correct me,lol

exactly right ,man i thought i was the only one full of useless information

[TrickStang37]

please tell me you id not read his post. :lol:

???

[440 rwhp trans am]

its a GTO thing,lol.

and hey 440rwhp trans am. yo man, you ever end up getting nitrous?

no i just sod it the other day. i needed about 9k in mods to get it to a drag car. i said fuck that. i sold it and im waiting for an investment to come though so i can put a aps tt on the gto. no need for 3 fast cars (ta, gto, tbss) and a f-250. the gto will be on roids :flex: