For You Cobra Lovers

[dpinson]

Come In Here And Argue With Yourselves About How Great Your Car Is As For Me Ill Keep Owning Cobras And Watching The Owners Faces When I Leave Their Ass Behind

[180ls1]

world war 3

[JwMonE99]

Come down here, I know a few cobras for you to race hehe

[OutOftheBox]

i work in front of a mustang tune shop....the stuff i have seen come flyin out of there tho i wish i worked in front of the vett shop thats on..."fast lane" <name of the street :worship:

[Stone]

Come In Here And Argue With Yourselves About How Great Your Car Is As For Me Ill Keep Owning Cobras And Watching The Owners Faces When I Leave Their Ass Behind

HAHA yea make a drive here and i got a couple for ya...haha :D

[Wesman]

Come In Here And Argue With Yourselves About How Great Your Car Is As For Me Ill Keep Owning Cobras And Watching The Owners Faces When I Leave Their Ass Behind

Real mature post.

I can appreciate both F-bodies and Cobras. Both are great sounding, great looking, powerful American Muscle cars. Its not like the Cobra is a riceburner or something, chill out.

[powermad]

Real mature post.

I can appreciate both F-bodies and Cobras. Both are great sounding, great looking, powerful American Muscle cars. Its not like the Cobra is a riceburner or something, chill out.

Well put!

[dpinson]

i understand what you are saying i just put this up so all these cobra guys that want to rant and rave about how a stock cobra will kill a stock ls1 everytime will have somewhere to do it

[dpinson]

HAHA yea make a drive here and i got a couple for ya...haha :D

oh trust me i dont have to go anywhere to get my ass handed to me by a termi,there is a mysticchrome vert thats putting 1100hp to the ground,
but i got tired of listening to these guys tell me a stock cobra will beat a stock ls1 easily,when i know its a close race with an m6

[jrc1122]

Real mature post.

I can appreciate both F-bodies and Cobras. Both are great sounding, great looking, powerful American Muscle cars. Its not like the Cobra is a riceburner or something, chill out.

I know of no cars that run off of rice.

[N20LT4]

oh trust me i dont have to go anywhere to get my ass handed to me by a termi,there is a mysticchrome vert thats putting 1100hp to the ground,
but i got tired of listening to these guys tell me a stock cobra will beat a stock ls1 easily,when i know its a close race with an m6

Sorry to tell you buddy, but stock for stock it's not a close race. If the owner of a Cobra coupe can really drive his car, he will blow the doors off of an LS F-body in stock trim. It's a supercharged V8 - watduya expect?

[JwMonE99]

Actually no, I seen a stock M6 LS1 vs. an 04 cobra vert, (yes vert being the keyword) and the Trans Am won not by much tho. Looked like a drivers race maybe? Or the Cobra couldnt drive.

[dpinson]

Sorry to tell you buddy, but stock for stock it's not a close race. If the owner of a Cobra coupe can really drive his car, he will blow the doors off of an LS F-body in stock trim. It's a supercharged V8 - watduya expect?

i hate to tell you but you are wrong along with all these other mustang nut

tell that to all the gys down here in cobras that wont even run with me anymore now that ive done some suspension work

im really tired of arguing about this shit so ill leave it at this maybe my caR IS A FACTORY FREAK BUT IT WOULD BEAT A STOCK 04 COBRA ,BARELY BUT IT ALWAYS JUMPED A LITTLE HARDER THAN ANY OF THE COBRAS DID ON ME STOCK,IT IS SO CLOSE THAT IT COULD BE A DRIVERS RACE BUT IVE BEAT MORE THAN ONE BY A HALF A CAR OR SO

[dpinson]

Actually no, I seen a stock M6 LS1 vs. an 04 cobra vert, (yes vert being the keyword) and the Trans Am won not by much tho. Looked like a drivers race maybe? Or the Cobra couldnt drive.

THEN YOU KNOW IT IS A CLOSE RACE, THE TA BARELY WON AND IF IT WAS A COUPE THE COBRA MIGHT HAVE BARELY WON BUT EITHER WAY A STOCK COBRA DOESNT JUST WALK OFF AND LEAVE A STOCK M6 LS1,AND IT CAN BE BEATEN

[Stone]

No offense but if your tired of arguing about it why did you put this "Come In Here And Argue With Yourselves About How Great Your Car Is As For Me Ill Keep Owning Cobras And Watching The Owners Faces When I Leave Their Ass Behind" as your thread starter?

[dpinson]

Real mature post.

I can appreciate both F-bodies and Cobras. Both are great sounding, great looking, powerful American Muscle cars. Its not like the Cobra is a riceburner or something, chill out.

I DIDNT REALIZE WE WERE ALL A BUNCH OF GIRLS THAT GET OUR FEELINGS HURT ,I DONT TAKE ANY OF THIS TO HEART SO IF YOU DO THATS EVEN BETTER FOR ME,GO CRY IN A CLOSET

[dpinson]

No offense but if your tired of arguing about it why did you put this "Come In Here And Argue With Yourselves About How Great Your Car Is As For Me Ill Keep Owning Cobras And Watching The Owners Faces When I Leave Their Ass Behind" as your thread starter?

I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY TO BE HONEST,BUT OTHER THAN THAT I FIGURED ID GIVE THEM A PLACE TO COME MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS AND TO CALL PEOPLE NAMES FOR MAKING TRUE STATEMENTS
READ SOME OF THE POSTS THAT THESE GUYS HAVE OUT UP ABOUT THE SUBJECT,MOST OF THEM DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT

[Stone]

I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY TO BE HONEST,BUT OTHER THAN THAT I FIGURED ID GIVE THEM A PLACE TO COME MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS AND TO CALL PEOPLE NAMES FOR MAKING TRUE STATEMENTS
READ SOME OF THE POSTS THAT THESE GUYS HAVE OUT UP ABOUT THE SUBJECT,MOST OF THEM DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT

Well we just so happen to have a few very well respected members on here with Terminators. I think you should have worded your thread a little differently and you wouldnt be having all this mess to go along with it

[N20LT4]

Actually no, I seen a stock M6 LS1 vs. an 04 cobra vert, (yes vert being the keyword) and the Trans Am won not by much tho. Looked like a drivers race maybe? Or the Cobra couldnt drive.

If the owner of that vert could drive, then he still should have been able to pull the LS1 by a bit, considering both cars were stock. Even the horribly obeast termy verts trap around 109-110 in stock trim. The termy coupe is a whole different story.

[Tracker9118]

http://photobucket.com

[dpinson]

Well we just so happen to have a few very well respected members on here with Terminators. I think you should have worded your thread a little differently and you wouldnt be having all this mess to go along with it

WELL DONT WORRY THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHO IM SPEAKING OF AND NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THAT

[hutch1999]

Come In Here And Argue With Yourselves About How Great Your Car Is As For Me Ill Keep Owning Cobras And Watching The Owners Faces When I Leave Their Ass Behind

Did you and the cobra driver ever switch cars yet and then race? just wondering.

[Stone]

WELL DONT WORRY THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHO IM SPEAKING OF AND NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THAT

Ok. Just making sure. I hate to see a new forum member start off on a bad foot

[basballny2]

u said uve had suspension work done, therefore your not stock

[SS/CETA]

I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY TO BE HONEST,BUT OTHER THAN THAT I FIGURED ID GIVE THEM A PLACE TO COME MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS AND TO CALL PEOPLE NAMES FOR MAKING TRUE STATEMENTS
READ SOME OF THE POSTS THAT THESE GUYS HAVE OUT UP ABOUT THE SUBJECT,MOST OF THEM DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT

Here, I found your newest racing sticker. You're a simp.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/unklejade/e-thug.jpg

[BLKCLOUD]

i hate to tell you but you are wrong along with all these other mustang nut

tell that to all the gys down here in cobras that wont even run with me anymore now that ive done some suspension work

im really tired of arguing about this shit so ill leave it at this maybe my caR IS A FACTORY FREAK BUT IT WOULD BEAT A STOCK 04 COBRA ,BARELY BUT IT ALWAYS JUMPED A LITTLE HARDER THAN ANY OF THE COBRAS DID ON ME STOCK,IT IS SO CLOSE THAT IT COULD BE A DRIVERS RACE BUT IVE BEAT MORE THAN ONE BY A HALF A CAR OR SO

That is very difficult to read (high school is your friend, friend), but I think what we can garner from this is that you are on drugs. No other excuse seems viable.

BTW...I don't currently own one, but my 04 Cobra went 12.6 @ 112 mph. 100% stock down to the filter, tires, and even the oil (I mention it because you seem like that type that would consider Mobil 1 a "mod").

My 99 T/A (no longer own it, either) went 12.89 @ 109 mph with very minor mods (many of them to the suspension). But it was no real competition for the Cobra.

What did YOUR car run 100% bone stock? What does it run now, and with what mods? Have you even been to a track? Or all your "kills" those elusive street races that we read so much about hear, that are typically based as much on imagination as they are on facts.

Oh...And there is no such thing as a "factory freak". There are, however, "internet freaks". For evidence, see this thread.

[JwMonE99]

Yea dude dont forget, the verts are a lot heavier making it slower then a regular cobra. So after being slowed down its brought down to LS1 area...

[dpinson]

u said uve had suspension work done, therefore your not stock
yes but i was talking about before i did this stuff and now they wont run because i had already beat them without it

[dpinson]

Here, I found your newest racing sticker. You're a simp.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/unklejade/e-thug.jpg

real funny im not scared to back shit up
bring your car down and lets get it

[hutch1999]

man you still havent answered my question. Have you and your brother or whoever it was that has the cobra you beat switched cars and raced yet?

[dpinson]

That is very difficult to read (high school is your friend, friend), but I think what we can garner from this is that you are on drugs. No other excuse seems viable.

BTW...I don't currently own one, but my 04 Cobra went 12.6 @ 112 mph. 100% stock down to the filter, tires, and even the oil (I mention it because you seem like that type that would consider Mobil 1 a "mod").

My 99 T/A (no longer own it, either) went 12.89 @ 109 mph with very minor mods (many of them to the suspension). But it was no real competition for the Cobra.

What did YOUR car run 100% bone stock? What does it run now, and with what mods? Have you even been to a track? Or all your "kills" those elusive street races that we read so much about hear, that are typically based as much on imagination as they are on facts.

Oh...And there is no such thing as a "factory freak". There are, however, "internet freaks". For evidence, see this thread.

i dont make shit up,went to school,and could care less that your dumb ass cant comprehend what was said

odessa,tx if anyone wants to come see what my car can do
weve already established the fact that i run them in the eighth mile and it is very possible to beat them when they dont have alot of time for that charger to come into play

[BLKCLOUD]

Friend....that "charger" is a positive displacement blower. Its fairly obvious that you do not understand what that means, but it simple terms, it means that it makes power from near idle to redline. It comes "into play" essentially the moment you put a load on the motor.

And what does your car run again? 1/8th mile is fine.

[dpinson]

Did you and the cobra driver ever switch cars yet and then race? just wondering.

no we are nowhere near stock now,but my buddy drove my car against my brothers cobra and was bumper to bumper with him the whole race until about a 100 where we all know a cobra will start pulling a little
so i dont think its a driver situation because it was pretty much the same race but my buddy just wasnt used to my car and couldnt jump on him like i did

[hutch1999]

switch cars then race and video tape, if everything is how you say it is, you should have nothing to hide and all the negative comment will stop

[dpinson]

Friend....that "charger" is a positive displacement blower. Its fairly obvious that you do not understand what that means, but it simple terms, it means that it makes power from near idle to redline. It comes "into play" essentially the moment you put a load on the motor.

And what does your car run again? 1/8th mile is fine.

it seems like to me though that the boost is more evident in the top end of those cars and in the eighth mile it always seems like they are playing catch up
which i know they kinda are or they are coming alot harder at the end than the start

[dpinson]

switch cars then race and video tape, if everything is how you say it is, you should have nothing to hide and all the negative comment will stop

then all you will see is a pullied cobra leave an ls1 or an ls1 on n20 leave a pullied cobra

[ATCharming]

this is one of 2 things
1. B.S.
2. he is talking about beating a 99-01 cobra

[hutch1999]

then all you will see is a pullied cobra leave an ls1 or an ls1 on n20 leave a pullied cobra

thatd be great lets see some vids

[ATCharming]

a stock ls1 cant beat a stock terminator... but ls1's do have the advantage of N/A cobras (which look exactly like the terminators, so if your confused i think we can all understand that). ist just that simple...

[BLKCLOUD]

Let me state that again....regardless of what it might "seem" to you, they are equipped with a positive-displacement blower, that provides linear power delivery from just above idle all the way to redline. There is no big "jump" in power at a certain rpm that you might see with a big turbo or a centrifugal blower.

Your perception that they seem to be "top end cars" could be derived from the fact that 03/04 Cobras typically launch very poorly (on street tires), due to a number of issues (not the least of which is the excellent power they make at low rpm....due to that positive-displacement blower I keep talking about). For example, when my 04 went 12.60 @ 112 mph in bone stock trim on the original tires, it did so with a very poor 2.10 60 ft.

And again, what does your car run in the 1/8th mile?

[dpinson]

a stock ls1 cant beat a stock terminator... but ls1's do have the advantage of N/A cobras (which look exactly like the terminators, so if your confused i think we can all understand that). ist just that simple...

no im not confused and maybe your car couldnt but mine did

[ATCharming]

top end cars? well... the N/A 4.6 has alot more top end than low end, so maybe again thats what he is referring to. if not, then if the blower added linear power delivery, then it would still be more of a top end car, right?

[hutch1999]

just get the camera ready and post some videos

[ATCharming]

no im not confused and maybe your car couldnt but mine did

mine cant... and alot of this thread is really confusing me... so you have beaten terminators when u were completely stock your saying?

[dpinson]

thatd be great lets see some vids

id love to hutch but i cant lie im a computer tard and dont know how to begin to get pictures in my computer so i can post

[dpinson]

mine cant... and alot of this thread is really confusing me... so you have beaten terminators when u were completely stock your saying?

yes i have and they were stock also
i will give these guys the benefit that it was really close ,and a better driver might have beaten me off the line but when you go from a roll and noone misses a shift that is pretty much it ,i did race a few stock ones from a roll and a stop and beat them

[ATCharming]

id love to hutch but i cant lie im a computer tard and dont know how to begin to get pictures in my computer so i can post

ill walk u thru the process

[hutch1999]

buy a cheap digital camera that can take video than buy a Memory stick and a memory card reader. Take the vid, then plug the reader into the usb port and read the memory card. Your computer should have a wizzard to walk you through it.

[ATCharming]

well from a stop i could maybe see them having a hooooooooorrrrrrible launch... from a roll tho, i dont see how this is possible whatsoever... but, i guess i shouldnt be calling anyone a liar cuz i wasnt there...

[dpinson]

well from a stop i could maybe see them having a hooooooooorrrrrrible launch... from a roll tho, i dont see how this is possible whatsoever... but, i guess i shouldnt be calling anyone a liar cuz i wasnt there...

im not trying to talk shit to anyone im just stating what happened and im sorry if someone cant take it,but yes even from a roll it was a close race

[dpinson]

buy a cheap digital camera that can take video than buy a Memory stick and a memory card reader. Take the vid, then plug the reader into the usb port and read the memory card. Your computer should have a wizzard to walk you through it.

what do you mean a wizard is there really like a walkthrough or something

[rajiv1998]

Come In Here And Argue With Yourselves About How Great Your Car Is As For Me Ill Keep Owning Cobras And Watching The Owners Faces When I Leave Their Ass Behind

Really?? Planing on a raod trip? I gotta friend with a whipple cobra making 618 to the wheels that will sureley and gladly hand ur ass right to you!

[dpinson]

Really?? Planing on a raod trip? I gotta friend with a whipple cobra making 618 to the wheels that will sureley and gladly hand ur ass right to you!

im sure he could tell him i got a twin turbo cobra waitin on him whats your point that with a ton of money hell surely smoke me

[BLKCLOUD]

Stock to Stock:

03/04 Cobra makes ~360 RWHP and weighs ~3660 lbs, or ~10.17 lbs/HP
01/02 LS1 makes ~310 RWHP and weighs ~3500 lbs, or ~11.29 lbs/HP

That's a difference of ~10% in power-to-weight. The Cobra has slightly better gearing (3.55 to 3.42), and slightly more rpm to play with.

From a roll, the only way your stock LS1 beats a stock Cobra is if the Cobra driver was an idiot, or there was something wrong with his car.

From a dig, anything can happen, because driver skill (or lack there of) becomes a huge factor. In other words, if your stock LS1 beat a stock 03/04 Cobra in the 1/8th mile, you beat the driver - not the car.

What does your car run in the 1/8th mile again?

Oh ya....take a peak at this dyno of a bone stock 03 Cobra. Pay particular attention to the torque curve, and tell me how this is a "top end" motor.

http://www.svtownersassociation.com/svtoaforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=194

[ATCharming]

Stock to Stock:

03/04 Cobra makes ~360 RWHP and weighs ~3660 lbs, or ~10.17 lbs/HP
01/02 LS1 makes ~310 RWHP and weighs ~3500 lbs, or ~11.29 lbs/HP

That's a difference of ~10% in power-to-weight. The Cobra has slightly better gearing (3.55 to 3.42), and slightly more rpm to play with.

From a roll, the only way your stock LS1 beats a stock Cobra is if the Cobra driver was an idiot, or there was something wrong with his car.

From a dig, anything can happen, because driver skill (or lack there of) becomes a huge factor. In other words, if your stock LS1 beat a stock 03/04 Cobra in the 1/8th mile, you beat the driver - not the car.

What does your car run in the 1/8th mile again?

Oh ya....take a peak at this dyno of a bone stock 03 Cobra. Pay particular attention to the torque curve, and tell me how this is a "top end" motor.

http://www.svtownersassociation.com/svtoaforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=194

(i assumed it was a topend motor cuz the mach 1 4.6dohc is)

[rajiv1998]

im sure he could tell him i got a twin turbo cobra waitin on him whats your point that with a ton of money hell surely smoke me

Nope, just refering to how you were indirectly saying ill smoke terminators all day long.

[dpinson]

hp and weight are only two factors along with driver

the best i ever ran stock was an 8.7 on street tires

[hutch1999]

what do you mean a wizard is there really like a walkthrough or something

exactly, it will go through step by step it looks like this


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh62/hutch1999/wizard.jpg

[N20LT4]

Let me state that again....regardless of what it might "seem" to you, they are equipped with a positive-displacement blower, that provides linear power delivery from just above idle all the way to redline. There is no big "jump" in power at a certain rpm that you might see with a big turbo or a centrifugal blower.

Your perception that they seem to be "top end cars" could be derived from the fact that 03/04 Cobras typically launch very poorly (on street tires), due to a number of issues (not the least of which is the excellent power they make at low rpm....due to that positive-displacement blower I keep talking about). For example, when my 04 went 12.60 @ 112 mph in bone stock trim on the original tires, it did so with a very poor 2.10 60 ft.

And again, what does your car run in the 1/8th mile?

Off the subject a bit, but let me ask you a question. How many darn cars have you had? Everytime there is a subject on 1/4 times, you seem to have onwed the car in question at one point in time. Funny.;) ;(

[BLKCLOUD]

Actually, the 4.6 in the 99/01 Cobras are more "peaky" than the 4.6 in the Mach.

The Mach makes 320 lb/ft peak torque at 4250 rpm.
The 99/01 Cobra 4.6 makes 317 lb/ft peak torque @ 4750 rpm
The 03/04 Cobra makes its peak at 3500 rpm.
The 01/02 LS1 makes its peak torque at 4000 rpm.

[dpinson]

cool i told you im illiterate,ive always hated computers,looking at cars,guns, girls,and bikes is as far as it gets

[ZAPFOOL!!]

Actually, the 4.6 in the 99/01 Cobras are more "peaky" than the 4.6 in the Mach.

The Mach makes 320 lb/ft peak torque at 4250 rpm.
The 99/01 Cobra 4.6 makes 317 lb/ft peak torque @ 4750 rpm
The 03/04 Cobra makes its peak at 3500 rpm.
The 01/02 LS1 makes its peak torque at 4000 rpm.

how about the 5.4Ls ?

[BLKCLOUD]

hp and weight are only two factors along with driver
From a roll, and depending upon the starting speed, the driver's input is minimal. The higher the starting speed, the less the driver makes a difference.

the best i ever ran stock was an 8.7 on street tires
My stock 04 went 8.4 @ 90 bone stock. Original Street Tires.

Off the subject a bit, but let me ask you a question. How many darn cars have you had? Everytime there is a subject on 1/4 times, you seem to have onwed the car in question at one point in time. Funny.;) ;(

LOL. Listing only performance cars ...

69 Chevelle
74 Firebird Formula
80 Corvette (wifes)
85 Z28 (wifes)
86 5.0 Mustang Hatch
88 5.0 Mustang Notch
90 SHO
92 Stealth R/T (wifes)
93 Mitsubishi 3000 GT (wifes)
98 Cobra
99 Cobra
99 T/A
04 Cobra

[rajiv1998]

Off the subject a bit, but let me ask you a question. How many darn cars have you had? Everytime there is a subject on 1/4 times, you seem to have onwed the car in question at one point in time. Funny.;) ;(

Yeah seriously, and this guy goes around telling other ppl to get a life and they know nothing about cars lol. Im kinda shocked he didnt reply to the thread i made about "what it felt like to drive a lamborghini" by saying something like "ehh its ok. I had one and u get a lot of attention but my LS1 is better"

[BLKCLOUD]

how about the 5.4Ls ?

The only Mustang to ever have a N/A 5.4 was the very limited production 2000 Cobra R. It's 4V 5.4 made 385 @ 4500 rpm (385 HP @ 5700 rpm).

[BLKCLOUD]

Yeah seriously, and this guy goes around telling other ppl to get a life and they know nothing about cars lol. Im kinda shocked he didnt reply to the thread i made about "what it felt like to drive a lamborghini" by saying something like "ehh its ok. I had one and u get a lot of attention but my LS1 is better"

Howdy. Kindly quote one time where I told someone that they know nothing about cars. As for getting a life....I'm probably guilty of that one.

And I'd never drive a Lamborghini. Too Overpriced. :drivin:

[ATCharming]

Howdy. Kindly quote one time where I told someone that they know nothing about cars. As for getting a life....I'm probably guilty of that one.

And I'd never drive a Lamborghini. Too Overpriced. :drivin:

so are you saying ur ls1 is better? :lol: jk

[N20LT4]

Yeah seriously, and this guy goes around telling other ppl to get a life and they know nothing about cars lol. Im kinda shocked he didnt reply to the thread i made about "what it felt like to drive a lamborghini" by saying something like "ehh its ok. I had one and u get a lot of attention but my LS1 is better"

I don't think any of us on LS1.com (besides the few Ford fanatics ??? :think: who frequent this site) believe in him anymore!

[BLKCLOUD]

so are you saying ur ls1 is better? :lol: jk

LOL. Nah, I sold the LS1 anyway and moved up...but not to anything from Italy. :eeek:

[TrickStang37]

Actually, the 4.6 in the 99/01 Cobras are more "peaky" than the 4.6 in the Mach.

The Mach makes 320 lb/ft peak torque at 4250 rpm.
The 99/01 Cobra 4.6 makes 317 lb/ft peak torque @ 4750 rpm
The 03/04 Cobra makes its peak at 3500 rpm.
The 01/02 LS1 makes its peak torque at 4000 rpm.

here's some dyno's to show your comparison.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/bluelightning302/Differentstockdynos.jpg


i guess technically you can make the case that the MaCh1 is more "peaky", since it has a much sharper rise and fall in TQ while the 99/01 is relatively flat in comparison, but it does make more TQ throughout the rev range except for 6000+rpm

[440 rwhp trans am]

real funny im not scared to back shit up
bring your car down and lets get it

i got an old ratty lt1 that i could "back shit up" and look im in texas too! :woot:

[440 rwhp trans am]

hey stone post some pics of your gto in the pics of gto section!!

[Wesman]

I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY TO BE HONEST,BUT OTHER THAN THAT I FIGURED ID GIVE THEM A PLACE TO COME MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS AND TO CALL PEOPLE NAMES FOR MAKING TRUE STATEMENTS
READ SOME OF THE POSTS THAT THESE GUYS HAVE OUT UP ABOUT THE SUBJECT,MOST OF THEM DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT

Another mature post. What are you, like 14 years old?? Get a life, you come in here complaining that the Mustang guys make posts about beating LS1's, so you make an entire thread just to bash Cobras and rant about how pissed you are?? Typing in all caps is awesome too, it really helps with your pointless thread.

[Wesman]

I know of no cars that run off of rice.

You know what I mean. Jap crap. Stop being a wise ass.

[JwMonE99]

My 89 Honda Civic Si bone stock can take any cobra ...

[JwMonE99]

IDK why but I just wanted to through that up there

[blue02Z]

to the original poster-you're wack man. hands down a stock ls1 fbody WILL NOT take down a stock termy unless the driver suffers from severe mental retardation or the cobra is not running anywhere near par! even the vert termy will still take us. i have never got to run against a termy on the street but if i do i already assume i have lost

[SS/CETA]

real funny im not scared to back shit up
bring your car down and lets get it


Idle threats don't impress this big man...

[N20LT4]

i have never got to run against a termy on the street but if i do i already assume i have lost

I'd assume you'd lose to considering your close to stock. Get some mods and then you can quit assuming.

[transamdude99]

to the original poster-you're wack man. hands down a stock ls1 fbody WILL NOT take down a stock termy unless the driver suffers from severe mental retardation or the cobra is not running anywhere near par! even the vert termy will still take us. i have never got to run against a termy on the street but if i do i already assume i have lost

:true: i have 2 friends with '03 Termy's and i have only raced one of them just for kicks. i knew i wasnt going to win but he loves TA's so he wanted to run me. he :buttkick:. granted he has about 555 hp at the crank and im stock but i know how those things run even stock. LS1's wont take down a Termy without some decent mods. i wanna get my buddy to take his Cobra and run it against my other friends '06 Viper w/mods. now that would be fun to watch

[N20LT4]

Yeah that Viper would be a good race for him. I just watched an '07 SRT-10 Roadster go 11.5 last wednesday. That's crazy for a stock convertible!

[BLKCLOUD]

i guess technically you can make the case that the MaCh1 is more "peaky", since it has a much sharper rise and fall in TQ while the 99/01 is relatively flat in comparison, but it does make more TQ throughout the rev range except for 6000+rpm

Maybe I wasn't clear...the N/A 4V in the Mach 1 is LESS PEAKY than the N/A 4V in the 99/01 Cobra.

However, the N/A 4V in the Mach is somewhat more peaky than the blown 4V 4.6 in the 03/04 Cobra - which should be expected, given the characteristics of the positive displacement blower, and the fact that you have to spin a N/A 4.6 pretty high to get good power.

[01ws6er]

My friends brother has an 03 Termy with a pulley, intake, and true duals. He wanted to race and I kept telling him he'd just beat my ass, but he had something to prove, so we raced...from a dig. He spun like crazy off the line (and so did I) I caught in 2nd, hit 3rd, and he walks by me a few seconds before I get 4th. Beat me by about 2 cars, but what can I say, I knew it was coming... My mods are Volant CAI, Magnaflow catback, free mods, and ws6store short shifter.

On another note, if BLKCLOUD's termi ran a 12.6 in the 1/4 bone stock an ls1 bone stock shouldn't come close...My buddy's Ws6 (with Catback only) ran 13.2's all night....that's 7/10 of a second difference...:nite:

[BLKCLOUD]

In fairness, you really can't compare cars driven at different times on different tracks and with different drivers. To get a better idea of the difference, an "average" or best-ever type of comparison should be used. Getting an average is tough. However, best-ever is a bit easier. For example:

- The quickest bone stock LS1 I've ever heard of was the 12.89 @ 108 that GMHTP ran several years ago.
- The quickest bone stock Termi I know of went 12.4 @ 114 (private owner and friend of mine) .

That would show ~4-5 tenths and ~5-6 mph difference, stock to stock, which I think would hold up pretty well as a good yardstick of the difference.

[superchargedblackgto]

Here are my .02 worth, my buddy has a modded 04 cobra, smaller pulley, Dr's, shifter, headers, exaust, ported s/c, bigger intercooler, and I'm sure more I cant think of.....anyway, he beat me by a 1 1/2 cars 3 times up to 130ish, he would get the jump and I never caught back up....Now, I was running 8psi of boost, street tires, and most of the mods in my sig....even now with meth kit and 2 more psi of boost, I think it will be a close race, I think I will win but close, and him still on slicks and me on street....there is my .o2 worth..Oh and BTW origional poster, a termy will rape an ls1 stock for stock......its just a FACT!!
Brad

[rajiv1998]

My friends brother has an 03 Termy with a pulley, intake, and true duals. He wanted to race and I kept telling him he'd just beat my ass, but he had something to prove, so we raced...from a dig. He spun like crazy off the line (and so did I) I caught in 2nd, hit 3rd, and he walks by me a few seconds before I get 4th. Beat me by about 2 cars, but what can I say, I knew it was coming... My mods are Volant CAI, Magnaflow catback, free mods, and ws6store short shifter.

On another note, if BLKCLOUD's termi ran a 12.6 in the 1/4 bone stock an ls1 bone stock shouldn't come close...My buddy's Ws6 (with Catback only) ran 13.2's all night....that's 7/10 of a second difference...:nite:

All mustangs have real dual exhaust, its not a performance upgrade like it is for our cars

[rajiv1998]

My friends brother has an 03 Termy with a pulley, intake, and true duals. He wanted to race and I kept telling him he'd just beat my ass, but he had something to prove, so we raced...from a dig. He spun like crazy off the line (and so did I) I caught in 2nd, hit 3rd, and he walks by me a few seconds before I get 4th. Beat me by about 2 cars, but what can I say, I knew it was coming... My mods are Volant CAI, Magnaflow catback, free mods, and ws6store short shifter.

On another note, if BLKCLOUD's termi ran a 12.6 in the 1/4 bone stock an ls1 bone stock shouldn't come close...My buddy's Ws6 (with Catback only) ran 13.2's all night....that's 7/10 of a second difference...:nite:

Either he doesnt know how to drive or something is wrong with his car. With those mods, hes prolly making a solid 100hp more than you. He should have had u by more than just 2 cars.

[01ws6er]

Either he doesnt know how to drive or something is wrong with his car. With those mods, hes prolly making a solid 100hp more than you. He should have had u by more than just 2 cars.

About the duals, he had them re-run with 3.5" tubing from the stock manifolds (why, IDK) with an off road h-pipe and shitty Flowmasters. That's why I said he had duals. I should have said "upgraded true duals."

And he bought the car with the CAI and pulley with 25,xxx miles on it about a month before we raced, so you're right, he probably wasn't used to the car yet.

[N20LT4]

About the duals, he had them re-run with 3.5" tubing from the stock manifolds (why, IDK) with an off road h-pipe and shitty Flowmasters. That's why I said he had duals. I should have said "upgraded true duals."

And he bought the car with the CAI and pulley with 25,xxx miles on it about a month before we raced, so you're right, he probably wasn't used to the car yet.

Why in the world would he go with 3.5" pipes from the stock manifolds? N/A Cobra's do not benefit from very large diameter piping. Instead, it will decrease torque significantly.

[sprayed cobra]

My 89 Honda Civic Si bone stock can take any cobra ...

:lol: This is getting good !

[01ws6er]

Why in the world would he go with 3.5" pipes from the stock manifolds? N/A Cobra's do not benefit from very large diameter piping. Instead, it will decrease torque significantly.

No clue in hell. Just responding to Rajiv1998's comment. His car is not N/A though, it's supercharged.

[blue02Z]

I'd assume you'd lose to considering your close to stock. Get some mods and then you can quit assuming.

exactly my point, i think i'm almost full bolt on and i can beat a stock ls1 considerably well. BUT you got the idea i was trying to make about losing to a termy. i need heads and cam:):drivin:

[TrickStang37]

No clue in hell. Just responding to Rajiv1998's comment. His car is not N/A though, it's supercharged.

i know its not your car and its your homie's but 3.5" is way overkill. stock is 2 1/4" with most upgrading to 2.5". They don't even step up to 3" until 600+rwhp.

[N20LT4]

exactly my point, i think i'm almost full bolt on and i can beat a stock ls1 considerably well. BUT you got the idea i was trying to make about losing to a termy. i need heads and cam:):drivin:

heads and cam, and you'll be nice.

[sprayed cobra]

What does that cost and on average what Hp do you get out of the most common combination ,just would like to know?

[blue02Z]

a good set up heads and cam prolly 430rwph and up depending on bolt ons and tune

[01ws6er]

i know its not your car and its your homie's but 3.5" is way overkill. stock is 2 1/4" with most upgrading to 2.5". They don't even step up to 3" until 600+rwhp.

He's not my "homie" lol, but I used to work near where my buddy lived, and that's his brother's car. They're rich, and I mean RICH; I haven't seen them in a while but with the way he (the guy who is not my homie) spends his money, I'm sure that car is a monster by now.

[Tommycat]

To be fair, he might have a point... In the 1/8th, the cobra MIGHT be about dead even with an LS1. However in the 1/4 we're talking bus lengths. Most times its because the launch is harder to get right in the Cobra on stock tires. Slap some DR's on the cobra, and it might be fair to the 60' mark. LS1's just don't have the top end(ie top speed) that the Cobras have(at least not stock). I've even seen enough cobra owners who lose even in the 1/4 because they blow the tires off it on their launch and have to play catch up. But that is more a driver mod than the car losing.

[N20LT4]

a good set up heads and cam prolly 430rwph and up depending on bolt ons and tune

439rwhp is decent, but i've seen better on stock short block LS1's. My LT1 made 457rwhp on motor, but that's with an 11:1 357 (.040") and big heads of course. 603rwhp on the 150-shot.

[ScarletBegonias]

Stock right?

2005 to 2008 Mustang GT= 5.1 seconds 0-60 time
WS6 Ram Air Trans Am= 5.2 seconds 0-60 time

The mustang does it on either transmission. The F-body can only do it's 5.2 seconds on a manual.

Am I right or am I right?