Any NEW 350z encounters?

[2000LS1Bird]

It has come to my attention that the '07 and up Nissan 350z's are now equipped with an upgraded version of Nissan's 3.5 V6. This new engine, the VQ35HR is rated at over 300 horsepower and the guys on the Z forums are turning mid/low 13s in the 1/4 with these cars.

I'm curious as to how a stock/near stock LS1 is going to fare against one of these new Z's.

The revised VQ35HR seems to be as similar a leap as the LS1 was to the LT1.

As an enthusiast (and former Turbo Z owner from the 80's), I'm very interested.

[hutch1999]

prolly be a drivers race

[SS/CETA]

I killed one a few months ago, but I'm not sure what year it was. It was a freeway race and he stayed with me from 40-90, but after 90 he faded a little.

[JwMonE99]

Time to start stalking the nissan dealerships.

[Wesman]

They aren't that much faster.

You're on a downhill track if you can pull a low 13 in one of those pieces of crap.

[jrc1122]

wow Wesman don't like Imports what else is new?
lol

[MikeSomething]

Wesman, drives a turbo Civic... J/K

[predator]

my buddy has an 07... he stands no chance... and for those of you that want to ID the newer ones... I'm pretty sure there is a bulge on the hood on the newer ones...

-me

[CJREX]

Wesman, drives a turbo Civic... J/K

Based on the posts of his that I've seen, I'd sooner believe that Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan would start wearing underwear before Wesman drove a Civic.

Unless he's actually a closet import lover :jk:

Back to 350z, even if the new ones are faster, they are still ugly :ughlaugh:

[Wesman]

Based on the posts of his that I've seen, I'd sooner believe that Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan would start wearing underwear before Wesman drove a Civic.

Unless he's actually a closet import lover :jk:

Back to 350z, even if the new ones are faster, they are still ugly :ughlaugh:

Not to mention the sound of those things...

They sound like a trash compactor on steriods :barfonu:

[JwMonE99]

Ehh the 350Zs arent that bad looking, when they first came out I would sometimes get it mixed up with a porshe. But then again I think most porshes are ugly.

[predator]

Ehh the 350Zs arent that bad looking, when they first came out I would sometimes get it mixed up with a porshe. But then again I think most porshes are ugly.

your thinking of a g35...

-me

[t-rock]

i taunted one the other day no dice thats the second one that wouldnt play.

[hoss 2000 z-28]

Regardless of who makes it, 300+hp out of a 3.5 v6 without FI is impressive.

[Wesman]

Regardless of who makes it, 300+hp out of a 3.5 v6 without FI is impressive.

The reason they can get that much out of a 3.5 is because its pretty much maxxed out from the factory. Hence the reason full bolt on 350Z's aren't much faster than stock ones, Nissan got as much out of the engine as they could from the factory. Can't say I'm really impressed.

[LT1 > LS1]

those new high rev motors are gonna pump out some much better numbers compared to the older models. but anything with the older engine should probably turn out about a 14.3 in the quarter. i am not sure about the new ones.

[2000LS1Bird]

I'm going to be watching for them.

The new Infiniti G37 has a 330-horse 3.7 V6 that is rumored to be the next upgrade for the Z. That would make it the 370z when and if it happens.

Initially, I hated the 350z because it was filling in for the priorly canceled Twin Turbo 300zx. They were uglier, slower, and had less mod potential than the 300.

But now, they keep making them faster, and so you can't really complain about that. The car has kinda grown on me over the years.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I'd rather see them go back to the twin turbo setup so you can do some cheap easy mods and make them fast.

[Sleeper101]

The reason they can get that much out of a 3.5 is because its pretty much maxxed out from the factory. Hence the reason full bolt on 350Z's aren't much faster than stock ones, Nissan got as much out of the engine as they could from the factory. Can't say I'm really impressed.


I don't like the 350Z at all!!

But No motor is MAXED from factory WESASS!!

But I know wesman has a few HONDA buddies!! I have heard him talk about them b/f so Im thinkin deep down inside it burns him to admit it but he loves a honda with a weedeater 2 stroke turbo running on 13's :nana:

[Wesman]

I don't like the 350Z at all!!

But No motor is MAXED from factory WESASS!!

Really? Then why do 350Z's hardly gain any power from bolt ons?? The engine is at its N/A potential, thats how they get 300HP out of it from the factory. Try and use some common sense.

But I know wesman has a few HONDA buddies!! I have heard him talk about them b/f so Im thinkin deep down inside it burns him to admit it but he loves a honda with a weedeater 2 stroke turbo running on 13's :nana:

So I mention that I have a coworker who has a Civic and now all of a sudden I have "Honda buddies"?? It doesn't run 13's, either, so you're wrong again.

[Sleeper101]

Really? Then why do 350Z's hardly gain any power from bolt ons?? The engine is at its N/A potential, thats how they get 300HP out of it from the factory. Try and use some common sense.

I don't keep up with the Z's but I know they can put a twin turbo kit on and make at least a 100 more ponies over stock. So your point is?

So I mention that I have a coworker who has a Civic and now all of a sudden I have "Honda buddies"?? It doesn't run 13's, either, so you're wrong again.

I said it runs ON 13's (In english 13 inch mexican rims) Not 13 second 1/4 miles are you on crack?

Either way its a car from Japan so your going to try and find something and make it look bad.

[Wesman]

I don't keep up with the Z's but I know they can put a twin turbo kit on and make at least a 100 more ponies over stock. So your point is?

I clearly said the car is AT ITS N/A POTENTIAL. Twin turbos would mean its no longer N/A. You are really slow....

I said it runs ON 13's (In english 13 inch mexican rims) Not 13 second 1/4 miles are you on crack?

Either way its a car from Japan so your going to try and find something and make it look bad.

Yea, I'm on crack because I misread one word. You are pathetic, do us all a favor and just stop posting.

[JwMonE99]

Maybe one of us should go to a 350Z forum and spy on them for the team? See what they have to say. I am sure they would know the car better then we do.

[hutch1999]

Maybe one of us should go to a 350Z forum and spy on them for the team? See what they have to say. I am sure they would know the car better then we do.

now your thinking lol

[Sleeper101]

I clearly said the car is AT ITS N/A POTENTIAL. Twin turbos would mean its no longer N/A. You are really slow....

Sounded like you were saying the amount of power they could make overall!!


Technical Specs: Engine
Standard Engine
3.5L V6
Standard Transmission
6 Speed Manual
Cylinders
6
Horsepower @ RPM
306@6800
Fuel Economy Cty/Hwy
18 / 25
Combined Fuel Economy
20
EPA Class
Two Seater
Number of Valves
24
Torque @ RPM
268@4800 (foot-lbs)
Fuel Type/System
Gas Engine / Sequential Electronic Fuel Injected
Turbo (yes/no)
No
Overdrive Transmission
Yes
Battery Output
N/A
Compression
10.6
Displacement
3498 / 213
Bore X Stroke
3.76x3.20
Cruising Range
400
Final Drive Gear Ratio Opt
N/A
Power To Weight Ratio
11
Final Drive Ratio
3.54
Valves Configuration
Dual Overhead Cam/Twin Overhead Cam
Supercharged
No
Electric HorsePower RPM
N/A
Electric Torque Feet Per Pound
N/A (foot-lbs)
Electric Torque RPM
N/A (foot-lbs)
Electric HorsePower BHP
N/A


I think they still have some N/A left! But either way who cares, I don't think they built the 350Z to drag race. Its more of a balanced car made for drifting!!

[Wesman]

I think they still have some N/A left! But either way who cares, I don't think they built the 350Z to drag race. Its more of a balanced car made for drifting!!


Yea...drifting. I'm sure thats exactly what they had in mind. Just like The Fast & Furious :ughlaugh:

[b00stedz]

Maybe one of us should go to a 350Z forum and spy on them for the team? See what they have to say. I am sure they would know the car better then we do.Well owning both a 350z and ws6 I can tell you that the 07 Zs are running low to mid 13s with the fastest stock time being 13.1. Its a drivers race imo between the two cars. Previous model Zs would get stomped though stock for stock with equal drivers

[b00stedz]

Fastest N/A time for a Z is 12.3 btw to those that think the 350z is maxed from the factory. But most full bolt on Zs run in the high 12s low 13s which I know isnt very impressive.

[jrc1122]

Fastest N/A time for a Z is 12.3 btw to those that think the 350z is maxed from the factory. But most full bolt on Zs run in the high 12s low 13s which I know isnt very impressive.


I consider anything in the 12's very impressive especially without a blower.

:)

[jrc1122]

Yea...drifting. I'm sure thats exactly what they had in mind. Just like The Fast & Furious :ughlaugh:


Side note--

I was bored/ tired, and watching ESPN - had some sort of Drifting competition on late last night -- like 1am or something.

It was actually quiet cool.

Not only Imports, I saw Mustangs, SRT Chargers, Pontiac Solstice, C5 Vette, and ofcourse some imports.


It was impressive- To control you car when it seems to be on the verge of losing control, I liked it.

Seems harsh on your ride, but I guess they set it up like that to take the drifting punishment.

Cool stuff.

I know I get a smile every time I get my rear tires a little loose. :) I can on imagine how much fun it would be to power through a turn at those angles.

[Sleeper101]

Drifting aside from drag racing is my next favorite sport! Its kick ass! The old school camaro, New mustang and viper are by far the best, There is a few Z06 vettes suppose to be setting up there cars for this season so we will see how it goes.

If you have never seen drifting in real life!! Your totally missing out. It will put your thoughts into another world.

[Wesman]

Fastest N/A time for a Z is 12.3 btw to those that think the 350z is maxed from the factory. But most full bolt on Zs run in the high 12s low 13s which I know isnt very impressive.

Umm...no.

350Z's run 14's, high 13's with bolt ons. Most of the stock ones are mid 14's with average drivers.

And no, a 350Z isn't a drivers race with an LS. Just stop the bullshit now, the car didn't just gain a second and a half in the 1/4 mile out of nowhere.

Just what we need, another import troll :rolleyes:

[2000LS1Bird]

Umm...no.

350Z's run 14's, high 13's with bolt ons. Most of the stock ones are mid 14's with average drivers.

And no, a 350Z isn't a drivers race with an LS. Just stop the bullshit now, the car didn't just gain a second and a half in the 1/4 mile out of nowhere.

Just what we need, another import troll :rolleyes:

He said he had owned both a Z and a WS6.

He's probably spent a lot time on the Z forums, where the Z is God, kinda like the LS1 seems to be around here... :cheers:

I think he's right that the '07 and up Z is going to be a drivers race against your typical LS1.

I wonder what the final drive ratio is on the new Z?

--Edit-- Google says: 3.54 gears in the Z.

[Cayenne97]

Umm...no.

350Z's run 14's, high 13's with bolt ons. Most of the stock ones are mid 14's with average drivers.

And no, a 350Z isn't a drivers race with an LS. Just stop the bullshit now, the car didn't just gain a second and a half in the 1/4 mile out of nowhere.

Just what we need, another import troll :rolleyes:

350Z's actually can run high 13's in stock trim with the right driver. I've seen it done twice. One 13.9 and a 13.8@100. Even those goofy guys @ Motor Trend got 13.77 in an M6 Track Edition. But yes most guys go low 14's bone-stock.

As far as my last 350Z encounter, it was with a 2004 hardtop/M6 sportin' a Greddy turbo kit (upgraded from the original package). He claimed 402 rwhp. I didn't even have my bottle that night so I ran him on motor and took him by three cars.

[Wesman]

350Z's actually can run high 13's in stock trim with the right driver. I've seen it done twice. One 13.9 and a 13.8@100. Even those goofy guys @ Motor Trend got 13.77 in an M6 Track Edition. But yes most guys go low 14's bone-stock.

As far as my last 350Z encounter, it was with a 2004 hardtop/M6 sportin' a Greddy turbo kit (upgraded from the original package). He claimed 402 rwhp. I didn't even have my bottle that night so I ran him on motor and took him by three cars.

Exactly what I've been saying.

[2000LS1Bird]

^^^

Yeah but its an "import" so according to Wesman we shouldn't discuss it! :)

[Wesman]

^^^

Yeah but its an "import" so according to Wesman we shouldn't discuss it! :)

Never did I say that.

Discuss it all you want. I am.

We just don't need import trolls in here swinging on the 350Z's nuts and all kinds of other shitty imports that they think are so great. Thats all.

And once again, the 07's aren't any faster.

07 350Z vs. 95 LT1 I/E/Tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgSzv4AMsqY)

[2000LS1Bird]

Never did I say that.

Discuss it all you want. I am.

We just don't need import trolls in here swinging on the 350Z's nuts and all kinds of other shitty imports that they think are so great. Thats all.

And once again, the 07's aren't any faster.

07 350Z vs. 95 LT1 I/E/Tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgSzv4AMsqY)

Nice vid. But I can't tell if that's an '07 350Z. The '07's are faster than the previous Z's though, they have an upgraded 3.5, as I mentioned in the original thread topic.

That Z obviously wasn't faster than that dude's LT1 Z28 though!

--

[big hammer]

nissan sucks

[JwMonE99]

Side note--

I was bored/ tired, and watching ESPN - had some sort of Drifting competition on late last night -- like 1am or something.

It was actually quiet cool.

Not only Imports, I saw Mustangs, SRT Chargers, Pontiac Solstice, C5 Vette, and ofcourse some imports.


It was impressive- To control you car when it seems to be on the verge of losing control, I liked it.

Seems harsh on your ride, but I guess they set it up like that to take the drifting punishment.

Cool stuff.

I know I get a smile every time I get my rear tires a little loose. :) I can on imagine how much fun it would be to power through a turn at those angles.



You would be surprised that some of the top drifters in the world drive, yes you guessed it, domestic cars. Fast and furious made it seem like it was import only but thats BS, just like how they made imports for racing only (but we all know that ricing out a car is an excuse for having a small penis but they can say but look my car has neons and rims)

[ScarletBegonias]

drifting is gay. go to a real race course and do ur thang. not sliding around on the pavement like a f-ing slip' and slide.

[jrc1122]

drifting is gay. go to a real race course and do ur thang. not sliding around on the pavement like a f-ing slip' and slide.

Why don't you tell us how you really feel :)

[Cayenne97]

Nice vid. But I can't tell if that's an '07 350Z. The '07's are faster than the previous Z's though, they have an upgraded 3.5, as I mentioned in the original thread topic.

That Z obviously wasn't faster than that dude's LT1 Z28 though!

--

You can easily tell on that video - just look at the rear lights (seen first), and then the front lights - very distinctive from the previous model. That's an '07 alright. They are decent performers, but lack torque.

[JwMonE99]

drifting is gay. go to a real race course and do ur thang. not sliding around on the pavement like a f-ing slip' and slide.

Drifting isnt really considered a "race" and it takes more driving skill to handle a car like that and take turns and do all that "slip and slide" crap over just shifting going in a straight line...

This is real life, we dont settle races in "drift" races like fast and furious trying to be all cool in parking lots, take a little time check it out, try drifting a car or too and then tell me its not fun as hell?

[Sleeper101]

^^^^ +1 Drifting will give you a rush like you just got laid!! 6 times

[2000LS1Bird]

nissan sucks

As opposed to Pontiac? Who has shit on their lot right now? :lol:

[b00stedz]

Umm...no.

350Z's run 14's, high 13's with bolt ons. Most of the stock ones are mid 14's with average drivers.

And no, a 350Z isn't a drivers race with an LS. Just stop the bullshit now, the car didn't just gain a second and a half in the 1/4 mile out of nowhere.

Just what we need, another import troll :rolleyes:Well I guess I must have a factory freak then considering I was able to pull a 13.8 @ 101mph out of my bone stock 06 350z. Sorry that I stated an 07+ z would be a drivers race with an LS1 powered car. I should of known that 13.1-13.5 1/4 mile times with traps as high as 106mph wasnt good enough to hang with a stock ls1. :rolleyes:

[big hammer]

As opposed to Pontiac? Who has shit on their lot right now? :lol:

nissan? cause nissan sucks ballz....

[JwMonE99]

nissan? cause nissan sucks ballz....

Why do they "suck"
Its the only descent imports they have out there...(when not riced out of course)

[Sleeper101]

There is a guy here in my town that has a 350Z and he thinks he's the Shit!! DADDY BOUGHT CAR!! He claims it runs 11 sec 1/4 miles. The sad part is its N/A no turbo and six speed Stock Everything! He has watched too much FF.

We have had a Rival going since high school! Daddy buys him anything he wants and I build everything I have! I have challenged him to several races as I have Wesman, it seems no one likes to race me! I offered this guy in the 350Z 3 cars and 500$ he said he would but never showed up! To any of the races. He said on the last challenge he was getting a TT kit and would race me then. Me the smart ass I am said your going too need a Baby bottle Kit (NOS) and a few diapers to clean your ass when I rape it and Ill give you 4 cars and 1000$ when you wanna man up! So we will see if this guy has any balls this summer. Ill be sure and get a video, I want everyone to see this Chump loose BIG!

[Cayenne97]

Well I guess I must have a factory freak then considering I was able to pull a 13.8 @ 101mph out of my bone stock 06 350z. Sorry that I stated an 07+ z would be a drivers race with an LS1 powered car. I should of known that 13.1-13.5 1/4 mile times with traps as high as 106mph wasnt good enough to hang with a stock ls1. :rolleyes:

You've got no factory freak, you can drive - that's all. I've seen similar times ran on a couple of occasions. As far as the '07's running in the 13.1 range - I seriously doubt it. Though I could be wrong, honestly i'd have to see it to believe it. 13.4-13.5 sounds more like it - but 13.1 is a really long shot.

Why do they "suck"
Its the only descent imports they have out there...(when not riced out of course)

Agreed. They are the only decent ones remaining. Nothing like the '90's era where you had a solid variety - 300ZX, Mitsubishi 3000GT, Toyota MR2, Supra TT, Stealth Turbo, Talon etc. Many of those cars had no problem holding their own against our domestics.

[Wesman]

As opposed to Pontiac? Who has shit on their lot right now? :lol:

GTO
G8 GT
Solstice GXP Turbo

Those three cars alone are better than Nissans entire lineup. So I don't know what you're trying to say.

[Wesman]

Well I guess I must have a factory freak then considering I was able to pull a 13.8 @ 101mph out of my bone stock 06 350z. Sorry that I stated an 07+ z would be a drivers race with an LS1 powered car. I should of known that 13.1-13.5 1/4 mile times with traps as high as 106mph wasnt good enough to hang with a stock ls1. :rolleyes:

They don't run that fast, for the last time.

Car and Driver pulled a 13.7 @ 104 in an 07 350Z. Thats .1 seconds faster than your 06. Yea, its really upgraded :rolleyes:

[big hammer]

Why do they "suck"
Its the only descent imports they have out there...(when not riced out of course)

they're all riced out. they're nissans. decent imports? thats like saying good shit. it's an oxymoron...

[Sleeper101]

:sword::Pepsi:

[Cayenne97]

They don't run that fast, for the last time.

Car and Driver pulled a 13.7 @ 104 in an 07 350Z. Thats .1 seconds faster than your 06. Yea, its really upgraded :rolleyes:

Don't bet on Car and Driver. Those are the same guys that got 13.8 in a '98 SS 10 years ago.

[Wesman]

Don't bet on Car and Driver. Those are the same guys that got 13.8 in a '98 SS 10 years ago.

Yea, but thats the BEST time they could pull in any 350Z.

There have been tons of LS1 tests since then, C&D pulled low 13's more than a few times.

[Cayenne97]

Yea, but thats the BEST time they could pull in any 350Z.

There have been tons of LS1 tests since then, C&D pulled low 13's more than a few times.

Car and Driver never pulled low 13's in an LS1 F-body. Corvette yes - but F-body, no. Regardless of the fact I don't believe the latest 350Z's are on par with the LS1, not without some mods atleast.

[2000LS1Bird]

GTO
G8 GT
Solstice GXP Turbo

Those three cars alone are better than Nissans entire lineup. So I don't know what you're trying to say.

I was responding to a troll when I said that. Pontiac's got a couple good cars, but what I'm REALLY saying from the heart is that I am very bitter about the F-body's cancellation.

G8 will be a good sedan. Not going to trade in my AWD Legacy GT for it though. Solstice? Great car for when I'm 80 and retired.

GTO? Poor sales, ugly, already canned by GM, and I hate that car because it got the motor the '04 Trans Am should have had. I will NEVER give a GTO props, I simply hate them. Sorry.

[JwMonE99]

they're all riced out. they're nissans.

WTF? Since when has every nissan been riced out?
That is probably one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard.
What is riced out about my 300ZX TT?
What is wrong with my friends 07 nissan sentra SER that is completely stock?

[Sleeper101]

WTF? Since when has every nissan been riced out?
That is probably one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard.
What is riced out about my 300ZX TT?
What is wrong with my friends 07 nissan sentra SER that is completely stock?

Nothing wrong with either.

Some guys are just jack asses that think they know it all which in reality they just make a fool of their selves.

Alot of cars are nice and not all cars are made to race! Some are for comfort and some are sporty. Just to most guys on here everything has to be a track car.

If you want a dragster buy one!

[N20LT4]

WTF? Since when has every nissan been riced out?
That is probably one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard.
What is riced out about my 300ZX TT?
What is wrong with my friends 07 nissan sentra SER that is completely stock?

Some people have very strong opinions, and in turn are pretty darn biased. You know, kind of like how most of us are about our favorite sports team. Everybody is entitled to be that way if they choose. I come across plenty import guys that can't stand our domestics. Tuff luck. Not to mention you have "Rice Killa" under your avator. So what is your version of riced out???

[JwMonE99]

To me riced out can be any car. I seen riced out of all kinds of cars.
To me ricer is having body kits, and ridiculous rims, gay paint jobs, huge systems, neons, ect. ect. pretty much any car wanting to be fast and furious.
This is a nice import nothing rice about that
<img src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p172/jwmone99/300ZX.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>


This is a ricer import but I can see domestics made as rice too...
<img src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p172/jwmone99/ricer.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[JwMonE99]

I am srry, pic codes didnt work.

Heres a non ricer import
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p172/jwmone99/300ZX.jpg

And this is a ricer import
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p172/jwmone99/ricer.jpg

[N20LT4]

No offense, but I don't believe that is your definition of 'rice'. Both you and I know what rice really refers to.

[Sleeper101]

Nice 300Z!!! a buddy of mine had one, let his G/F drive it and she hit a Tree head on with it!

[Sleeper101]

No offense, but I don't believe that is your definition of 'rice'. Both you and I know what rice really refers to.

Whats does it refer too?

[Wesman]

Whats does it refer too?

Any vehicle produced by an Asian company. Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, ect.

They are all "rice".

You could call an American car "Wheat" if you really wanted to, it refers to the country of origin.

[CJREX]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p172/jwmone99/ricer.jpg

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/its-beautiful.jpg

NOT

[jrc1122]

Any vehicle produced by an Asian company. Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, ect.

They are all "rice".

You could call an American car "Wheat" if you really wanted to, it refers to the country of origin.


So now rice/ ricer isn't an insult?

It simply means you own a reliable, good on gas, excellent resale value, car?


I like the other more common unwritten but widely accepted definition....

Rice - Altezza tail lights, and huge tripple decker metal wings, with cheezy graphics, NOS stickers, fart can, body kits that are either not painted, or hanging off. Often found on Foreign 4 clyinders, some 6 cylinders, and a recent rash of american 4 and 6 cylinders have adopted this style. It is rarely found on V8 American pony cars- but they are not 100% exempt.:typer:

Ricer - One who drives rice.

[Wesman]

So now rice/ ricer isn't an insult?

I suppose some might not consider it an insult then. If someone said "that car looks riced out" though, I'd say thats an insult. It merely refers to that vehicle looking Japanese, since they like to put on huge, ugly wings, ridiculous body kits, and fart cans from the factory. Example, a Mitsubishi Evo or Subaru STI.

[2000LS1Bird]

Wesman, that might be your definition of 'rice,' but not everyones.

You're like... "Something wrong with DEeeetroit, son? Why you drivin' that Japoneeese piece o' shit?"

:D

[jrc1122]

I see

So let me get this straight... Rice (to you) was any asian built car-- Now it is only asian cars that run 13.xx quarter mile times.

I always thought of rice being tacky all show and no go type cars.

:dunno:

[Wesman]

I see

So let me get this straight... Rice (to you) was any asian built car-- Now it is only asian cars that run 13.xx quarter mile times.

I always thought of rice being tacky all show and no go type cars.

:dunno:

Where did I say they had to run 13's??

Any Asian car can be considered rice. STI and Evo are just examples of typical ricers.

[N20LT4]

Any vehicle produced by an Asian company. Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, ect.

They are all "rice".

You could call an American car "Wheat" if you really wanted to, it refers to the country of origin.

Exactly.

[jrc1122]

Where did I say they had to run 13's??

Any Asian car can be considered rice. STI and Evo are just examples of typical ricers.


Not to be argumentative--

But when you say "can" be considered--

Can you clarify?

So to you (your opinion) which is that-- ALL asian cars are rice yes or no? (Regardless of looks, performance)

Just trying to get a better understanding- because if I remember correctly, you have accused me of being a ricer- but I drive the same car as you. Which wasn't built in Asia.

Not to mention - under your theory a soccor mom in a honda Odessy mini-van is a ricer.. That is strange to me.

Because the hatred that poors from people's mouth and the poking fun of the "ricer" seems to lose its meaning, if we are now picking on 30 year old soccer moms that are stock down to the paper air filter.

I guess I am a ricer-- My family car is a 2005 Hyundai XG350L (Korean built/ Asian)- as stock as can be. About as far from rice as you can get. But under this new and uncommon definition that you have given the term, I am in fact a "ricer". LOL
My wife is a "ricer" --- LMAO---seems how she drives it mostly.

[jimmybling31]

they aren't that much faster than the old ones. they actually weigh more now too. redlight to redlight lt1's and ls1's can beat them no prob

[jimmybling31]

Nice 300Z!!! a buddy of mine had one, let his G/F drive it and she hit a Tree head on with it!

dude i know a guy the same thing happened to him with his. he has a 300zx tt and he let a girl he was dating drive it home and she ran off the road because she though it didn't have as much power as her honda. i guess she found out the hard way that a tt 300 has alot more than any honda

[N20LT4]

Not to be argumentative--

But when you say "can" be considered--

Can you clarify?

So to you (your opinion) which is that-- ALL asian cars are rice yes or no? (Regardless of looks, performance)

Just trying to get a better understanding- because if I remember correctly, you have accused me of being a ricer- but I drive the same car as you. Which wasn't built in Asia.

Not to mention - under your theory a soccor mom in a honda Odessy mini-van is a ricer.. That is strange to me.

Because the hatred that poors from people's mouth and the poking fun of the "ricer" seems to lose its meaning, if we are now picking on 30 year old soccer moms that are stock down to the paper air filter.

I guess I am a ricer-- My family car is a 2005 Hyundai XG350L (Korean built/ Asian)- as stock as can be. About as far from rice as you can get. But under this new and uncommon definition that you have given the term, I am in fact a "ricer". LOL
My wife is a "ricer" --- LMAO---seems how she drives it mostly.

Not to take sides or anything, but I think you are taking the point waaay out of context. I don't think it should take a genius to know what us domestic guys refer to as "rice". It started out as us domestic guys referring to Asian import racers as "Rice Rockets", not women who drive mini-vans.

dude i know a guy the same thing happened to him with his. he has a 300zx tt and he let a girl he was dating drive it home and she ran off the road because she though it didn't have as much power as her honda. i guess she found out the hard way that a tt 300 has alot more than any honda

Those 300ZX's were often underestimated, and still are. They were actually a tad quicker on average than the LT1 cars, running high 13's in the 101-102 range - though they were also rated @ 300hp, versus 275-285 for the LT1 cars.

[jimmybling31]

Not to take sides or anything, but I think you are taking the point waaay out of context. I don't think it should take a genius to know what us domestic guys refer to as "rice". It started out as us domestic guys referring to Asian import racers as "Rice Rockets", not women who drive mini-vans.



Those 300ZX's were often underestimated, and still are. They were actually a tad quicker on average than the LT1 cars, running high 13's in the 101-102 range - though they were also rated @ 300hp, versus 275-285 for the LT1 cars.

I beat the guy's 300 that was wrecked by the girl he was dating. that thing was pretty fast but it could not keep up at all in the 1/8th

[N20LT4]

I beat the guy's 300 that was wrecked by the girl he was dating. that thing was pretty fast but it could not keep up at all in the 1/8th

Turbo lag sucks. If you can't drive/launch a turbo car properly your in trouble. The 300ZX and LT1 were very close stock to stock, so yes in many circumstances it's a drivers race. But from what i've seen over the years they are capable of 13's more regularly than our cars out of the box - no disrespect to the beloved LTx though!

[JwMonE99]

I have a 300ZX TT, I need to get a friend of mine to drive it for me and race me with my LT1 and see who is faster.
But yea I guess me and my family is rice, I have a nissan 300ZX, my mom drives a kia (for now) and my dad is about to get rid of his isuzu. I just dont see why average normal stock imports like my friends 07 SER sentra is rice, he just wants a nice looking car with 4 seats to cruize around with. So now hes a ricer?
Pple didnt start calling the jap cars rice untill they starting to put fart can mufflers and tail lights ect. ect. and then claiming to be fast.

[Sleeper101]

Ya I guess my family Is rice now also! My mom drives an 88 Iroc camaro, Dad has a chevy full size truck, I have a 95 Bird and a 240 So I guess I killed my families tradition!!

JwMonE99 - Would love to hear the outcome of that race! Im sure the Lt1 will pull on the 300 with the better torque.

[N20LT4]

Don't be too sure.

[Wesman]

Not to take sides or anything, but I think you are taking the point waaay out of context. I don't think it should take a genius to know what us domestic guys refer to as "rice". It started out as us domestic guys referring to Asian import racers as "Rice Rockets", not women who drive mini-vans.

Exacty. People just need to use some common sense.

[JwMonE99]

Yea I am very curious to see my LT1 take the 300.
My camaro did take a 300 TT a few weeks ago but I dont know what that one had.
Mine has intake, headers, down pipe and an H-pipe sounds pretty good for what it is. and a tune but no dyno or anything, I think my 300 might be faster but I am not sure.
Camaro only has true duels hehe

[baseballguy]

Turbo lag sucks. If you can't drive/launch a turbo car properly your in trouble. The 300ZX and LT1 were very close stock to stock, so yes in many circumstances it's a drivers race. But from what i've seen over the years they are capable of 13's more regularly than our cars out of the box - no disrespect to the beloved LTx though!

You are right. Now driving a 01 SS from a 92 300zx, i might know a little about this.

Turbo lag does suck. If you dont launch it right, you will either end up spinning the tires or not going anywhere until about 3500 rpm's, cuz thats about where the turbo kicks in.

There are a few problems with the 300zx...
1. its an old car, 90-96 was the production years... for the 300xztt.
2. It is actually a heavy car for only being a 2 seater.
3. HICAS system

But with any turbo car, it responds well with bolt-ons. You can take a stock 300zxtt and with intake, enhaust, and chip, it would put you close to the 400hp (at the crank). I was at the track last summer, there was one TT that was runnin consistant 12.9-13.0 with intake and exhaust!

http://www.zcargarage.com/gallery.htm

check that place out. It is a local shop that I use to take my Z to, if you look up under the 300zx area, Scotts Z, now granted it is highly modified, but it gives you an idea of what these cars can do.

[Wesman]

You are right. Now driving a 01 SS from a 92 300zx, i might know a little about this.

Turbo lag does suck. If you dont launch it right, you will either end up spinning the tires or not going anywhere until about 3500 rpm's, cuz thats about where the turbo kicks in.

There are a few problems with the 300zx...
1. its an old car, 90-96 was the production years... for the 300xztt.
2. It is actually a heavy car for only being a 2 seater.
3. HICAS system

But with any turbo car, it responds well with bolt-ons. You can take a stock 300zxtt and with intake, enhaust, and chip, it would put you close to the 400hp (at the crank). I was at the track last summer, there was one TT that was runnin consistant 12.9-13.0 with intake and exhaust!

http://www.zcargarage.com/gallery.htm

check that place out. It is a local shop that I use to take my Z to, if you look up under the 300zx area, Scotts Z, now granted it is highly modified, but it gives you an idea of what these cars can do.

100HP from an intake and exhaust and chip?? I think there's some exaggeration there.

[baseballguy]

100HP from an intake and exhaust and chip?? I think there's some exaggeration there.

http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=78731

Im not sure if you can open this without being part of that site... but give that a try...

The second guy in there...

356.72 RWHP / 372.95 RWTQ

intake
exhaust
UR underdrive pulley
Z1 downpipes & testpipes
Z1 ECU
Blitz SBC-iD EBC

stock injectors, ICs, and turbos

and i was talking about 100hp to the crank... not to the wheels.

[jimmybling31]

100HP from an intake and exhaust and chip?? I think there's some exaggeration there.

chip prolly raises the boost up a little and on a turbo'd car the exhaust flow comes into play much more vividly. heck when i was looking into dsm's the exhaust systems I was looking at were worth a proven 25-30hp at the wheels because of the need for exhaust flow

[baseballguy]

chip prolly raises the boost up a little and on a turbo'd car the exhaust flow comes into play much more vividly. heck when i was looking into dsm's the exhaust systems I was looking at were worth a proven 25-30hp at the wheels because of the need for exhaust flow

:true:

[Wesman]

http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=78731

Im not sure if you can open this without being part of that site... but give that a try...

The second guy in there...

356.72 RWHP / 372.95 RWTQ

intake
exhaust
UR underdrive pulley
Z1 downpipes & testpipes
Z1 ECU
Blitz SBC-iD EBC

stock injectors, ICs, and turbos

and i was talking about 100hp to the crank... not to the wheels.


So basically they just free up the exhaust and crank up the boost.

I love how the part about the EBC with increased boost is always left out, the way you post it makes it sound like it will gain 100HP from just an intake, exhaust, and chip with stock boost. Obviously, that would never be the case.

[baseballguy]

So basically they just free up the exhaust and crank up the boost.

I love how the part about the EBC with increased boost is always left out, the way you post it makes it sound like it will gain 100HP from just an intake, exhaust, and chip with stock boost. Obviously, that would never be the case.

Ya thats my bad... but yea with boost increased it helps!! =)

[N20LT4]

You are right. Now driving a 01 SS from a 92 300zx, i might know a little about this.

Turbo lag does suck. If you dont launch it right, you will either end up spinning the tires or not going anywhere until about 3500 rpm's, cuz thats about where the turbo kicks in.

There are a few problems with the 300zx...
1. its an old car, 90-96 was the production years... for the 300xztt.
2. It is actually a heavy car for only being a 2 seater.
3. HICAS system

But with any turbo car, it responds well with bolt-ons. You can take a stock 300zxtt and with intake, enhaust, and chip, it would put you close to the 400hp (at the crank). I was at the track last summer, there was one TT that was runnin consistant 12.9-13.0 with intake and exhaust!

http://www.zcargarage.com/gallery.htm

check that place out. It is a local shop that I use to take my Z to, if you look up under the 300zx area, Scotts Z, now granted it is highly modified, but it gives you an idea of what these cars can do.

Yes those 300 tt's are very capable cars, most even forgetting how quick they are in completely stock form. With the right driver they are in every which way a solid match for an LT1, and I will continue to state that they are a little quicker stock to stock. I had numerous encounters in the mid-late '90's in my first two LT1 cars, and those cars were no joke.

[jrc1122]

Any vehicle produced by an Asian company. Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, ect.

They are all "rice".


Common sense? Those words are very straight forward and can't be taken but ONE way.

With that being said the soccor Moms in Honda Mini vans would in fact drive rice - therefore be a ricer -- by Wesman's definition.

For someone whom I seem to butt heads with so often, especially about "ricers"-- I see it a relative topic, and I simply want to know what Wesman means when he throws that term around (rice or ricer)

It sounds to me like he don't even have a clear idea of what he means when he says it.

Once I can pin point his meaning of the slang term "rice/ ricer"- I will better equipped to converse on such topics.

[Wesman]

Common sense? Those words are very straight forward and can't be taken but ONE way.

With that being said the soccor Moms in Honda Mini vans would in fact drive rice - therefore be a ricer -- by Wesman's definition.

For someone whom I seem to butt heads with so often, especially about "ricers"-- I see it a relative topic, and I simply want to know what Wesman means when he throws that term around (rice or ricer)

It sounds to me like he don't even have a clear idea of what he means when he says it.

Once I can pin point his meaning of the slang term "rice/ ricer"- I will better equipped to converse on such topics.

Here you go, number 3 is the perfect definition:

Urban Dictionary: Riceburner (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=riceburner)

[JwMonE99]

Here you go, number 3 is the perfect definition:

Urban Dictionary: Riceburner (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=riceburner)

All those cars and the 300ZX wasnt mentioned lol nor was the 240sx. But Yea I agree partially, that 95% of the "riceburners" out there are truly rice, there is that small few that keep it ok

[Wesman]

All those cars and the 300ZX wasnt mentioned lol nor was the 240sx. But Yea I agree partially, that 95% of the "riceburners" out there are truly rice, there is that small few that keep it ok

Those are just a given. Those listed are just a few examples, can't list every car in that small space.

[JwMonE99]

Those are just a given. Those listed are just a few examples, can't list every car in that small space.

Yea I know I was just messing with you

[Deuuuce]

Don't bet on Car and Driver. Those are the same guys that got 13.8 in a '98 SS 10 years ago.

They are the best source there is. 8/98 issue the SS ran a 13.5 @ 107mph. No drag prep, no powershifting.