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RickZ2899
11-27-2005, 08:44 PM
I took my car in to the dealer the other day to get an oil change and I noticed something strange when I got the car back the paperwork listed my car as (99 CAMARO/POLICE PKG. 2DR) is that some kind of misprint or is it possible that I have that package? Does anyone know what the police package is? the guy that drove off in my car to take it to the service garage was asking me a bunch of questions and I didn't know what to tell him, any info would be appreciated, thanks.

Zboner
11-27-2005, 08:45 PM
BC4 im pretty sure

RickZ2899
11-27-2005, 08:59 PM
Thanks, do you know more specifically what all that package comes with that is different than the regular Z28?

Zboner
11-27-2005, 09:12 PM
im not to sure but i know some people have them on this site

baseballss
11-27-2005, 09:14 PM
i know for a fact that they are geared differently to reach higher speeds and i believe they have been tuned a bit also

graphicsgod
11-28-2005, 04:58 AM
If thats true, lucky you :).

Rob

RickZ2899
11-28-2005, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I hope it's true, I just wonder why I was never told by anyone at the dealer until now and I have taken it several times for oil changes since I bought it in 99 and it never said anything about the police package on the paperwork until now. Does anyone know a way to find out for sure?

slim64
11-28-2005, 03:47 PM
A true B4C will have the B4C listed on your SPID code sheet.
B4C's camaros are Z28s without the badging.
Hope this helps.

hammertime
11-28-2005, 04:04 PM
i know for a fact that they are geared differently to reach higher speeds and i believe they have been tuned a bit also

Police package usually amounts to more durability than anything, oil cooler, p/s cooler, heavy duty brakes, etc. B4C cars may get a performance gear option, but nothing that isn't available to the pubilc. Also, the pcm would be the same as any other car with z rated tires, no performance tuning.

The extra gear they put in the patrol cars makes them heavy enough that they will not perform any better than any other car out there. The lights, sirens, radios, computers, etc. all add 250 lbs or more to the car.

TommySS
11-28-2005, 07:34 PM
B4C is the correct code.

It's essentially a Z-28 w/o badging and several other options.

The 4th gen cars have no factory extra coolers on them other than the ps cooler (std on SS)

They have no different tuning or gearing than a Z-28

RickZ2899
11-28-2005, 11:05 PM
Thanks for the info, I noticed when I bought the car new on the sticker it listed a power steering cooler and a couple of other options that I didn't see on other Z28's that I had looked at, that might explain why my factory brakes and rotors that have about 60,000 miles and 6 years of time on them still perform like new, atleast I don't have all that extra weight that the actual cop one's have in them, I actually removed most of the extra weight (back seat,spare tire & jack, and a few other things) oh well I love the car either way! Thanks again to evrybody who replied.

Danger731
11-29-2005, 05:10 AM
B4C is the correct code.

It's essentially a Z-28 w/o badging and several other options.

The 4th gen cars have no factory extra coolers on them other than the ps cooler (std on SS)

They have no different tuning or gearing than a Z-28

coolers std on all 02's

oneBADDz
11-29-2005, 01:31 PM
I own a B4C, sorry but my profile isn't completed yet. A B4C has stock 3.23s and is more emmisions restricted than other Zs due to the fact that government cars have higher standards of efficiency than typical street cars. There are no other differences, it is labeled B4C just to denote that it is emmisions legal to be used in government service.

TommySS
11-29-2005, 05:10 PM
There used to be a definitive "this is a police package" from the FbodFather. If I can source it I'll post.

Duffster
11-30-2005, 12:22 PM
What TommySS said earlier. . .nothing power-special about it. Same engine, same tune,same cam, same intake, same exhaust. . .
Typically(not all cases) the B4C comes with cloth interior. . .cheaper and all...

LS1Chris
12-01-2005, 08:35 PM
Police package usually amounts to more durability than anything, oil cooler, p/s cooler, heavy duty brakes, etc. B4C cars may get a performance gear option, but nothing that isn't available to the pubilc. Also, the pcm would be the same as any other car with z rated tires, no performance tuning.

The extra gear they put in the patrol cars makes them heavy enough that they will not perform any better than any other car out there. The lights, sirens, radios, computers, etc. all add 250 lbs or more to the car.

oil cooler is not included in the package.

I do know it includes:

Power steering cooler (same one used on the SS/WS6/Firehawk)
Z-rated tires (not avail on base option)
Badge delete
upgraded alternator (100 or 120 amp)

TommySS
12-03-2005, 07:13 PM
Nope - the same alternator as the Z-28/SS

Sniperfox
02-22-2006, 10:04 PM
I am preparing to buy a 2001 BC4 Hwy Patrol Camaro as soon as it is taken out of service at 80,000 miles. This is my first Chevy and I am eagerly awaiting taking ownership. Any tips on maintaining it? What are some of the best low cost bolt-ons to get more performance from it?

Danger731
02-23-2006, 01:36 AM
See Sig - I just hit 80 k , Do regular oil changes, I use semi-synthetic every 3 - 4k.
That dyno number was at 75k miles - you should be similiar. Enjoy.

Sniperfox
02-23-2006, 04:26 AM
See Sig - I just hit 80 k , Do regular oil changes, I use semi-synthetic every 3 - 4k.
That dyno number was at 75k miles - you should be similiar. Enjoy.
LM1? What is that?

newguy WS6
02-23-2006, 05:03 AM
I have a family member that is with our esteemed local law enforcement here and has the camaro /Z28. He tells me that he has pegged the speedo several times in chases etc. No performance upgrades etc though. Just a bigger alternator and all of the police stuff/Radio etc/ Cloth interior.

Thanks
Steve

hwyhog
02-23-2006, 07:15 AM
sniperfox, what area of nc do you live in ? do you know who the Trooper is that drove the car ? if not be shore to ask if the car is working on its 2nd trans. or rear end. I know that a lot of them have had the trans or rear end replaced. I am a Trooper in nc and have bought one of our cars last year. it was one of the Troopers cars that i work with. the only problem that i have had with my car is a rear engine seal leak. good luck and have fun with it:drivin: :drivin:

Sniperfox
02-23-2006, 11:40 AM
sniperfox, what area of nc do you live in ? do you know who the Trooper is that drove the car ? if not be shore to ask if the car is working on its 2nd trans. or rear end. I know that a lot of them have had the trans or rear end replaced. I am a Trooper in nc and have bought one of our cars last year. it was one of the Troopers cars that i work with. the only problem that i have had with my car is a rear engine seal leak. good luck and have fun with it:drivin: :drivin:
I know the trooper that was issued the car when it was new and he is still with it. He has told me that he wanted to buy it himself, but he is already putting his money in a resto project on a muscle car. He says that it doesn't leak anywhere and that the tranny is sound. I'll have to ask him if it's the original or has it been rebuilt. Thanks for the tips. I hope to make this my daily driver to replace my 90 LX 5.0 that needs some restoration. My other ride is a 2003 SVT Cobra convertible. This is my first adventure with a Camaro. I hope it is a pleasant one.

Tinton
02-23-2006, 04:15 PM
I "supposedly" bought a B4C Camaro when I got my car. It isn't, the advertisement said B4C but it doesn't have the code for it :(. They also said that it included KONI shocks and struts, better swaybars, and a higher speed limiter. I don't think the speed limiter part is true, when I got it dynoed (285 rwhp and 311 rwtq) it pegged at 155 and the revs wouldn't go any higher, even though it wasn't even near 5000 rpms yet. As for the KONI's, I'm not sure if thats true either, but I forced the dealer to replace the shocks and struts with what was on there, so it got brand new KONI shocks and struts 15,000 miles ago. The swaybars, I heard that from a Year One guy at World of Wheels here in Atlanta (was showing my Fiero). He had a 700-hp Camaro there, I'll take his word on the swaybars.

Also, since they are police packages, wouldn't they all come with automatic transmissions?

Sniperfox
02-23-2006, 04:54 PM
Did you buy your "BC4" new or used? Automatic Transmissions are the specs for NC's Camaro program. A 6-speed would've been nice, but auto will do. Besides, it will be my daily driver. I will probably do a few minor mods to get a little more zip from it and leave it at that. I am going to do a resto on my 90 LX mustang and I only drive my Cobra on nice sunny days. An auto trans will be nice to have.
:drivin:

oneBADDz
02-23-2006, 05:29 PM
there were a few m6 b4c cars, not many though

Sniperfox
02-23-2006, 06:06 PM
there were a few m6 b4c cars, not many though
I am not aware of any in NC. The state contract listed Auto trans only if I remember correctly.

oneBADDz
02-23-2006, 07:14 PM
Not that it matters cause mine's an auto, but it was from either SC or NC, I'm gonna have to look at the paperwork now to see lol

Tinton
02-24-2006, 12:46 AM
Oh yeah, I can make things interesting if you guys want. I have a brochure here in .pdf format for the police package, as of the 2000 model year. It also says a LSD and some other goodies, but the brochure has a police-painted Camaro on it, so I'm not sure if this was meant for the public or for police agencies. When I try to upload here on the forum, I get an error: "Your file of 216.9 KB bytes exceeds the forum's limit of 19.5 KB for this filetype.". Anyone know where I can host it?

Sniperfox
02-24-2006, 01:05 AM
I have a similiar one. I'll have to post 2 more before I can attach it.

Sniperfox
02-24-2006, 01:05 AM
bump

Sniperfox
02-24-2006, 01:05 AM
http://www.9c1.com/brochures/2001/01_b4c.pdf

oneBADDz
02-24-2006, 04:54 AM
Yeah, they sent me that brochure when I bought my car. Basically is just says it isn't much different from a regular Z28. I had to put Z28 on mine, no one would look twice at me on the road when they thought I was just a euro V6, but I do in just a little way feel like I'm lying with Z28 on the side even though I know I'm really not

thelastz28
02-24-2006, 10:21 AM
Its B4C not BC4! If I had a B4C, I would not put Z/28 badges on it. I would be proud to have a rare B4C and not just another Z/28.LM1? What is that? I think he has a Loud Mouth 1 catback.

oneBADDz
02-24-2006, 10:23 AM
Its B4C not BC4! If I had a B4C, I would not put Z/28 badges on it. I would be proud to have a rare B4C and not just another Z/28. I think he has a Loud Mouth 1 catback.
b4c doesn't really mean much though, and seriously, no one would look twice at me until I put Z on it

scottcamaross
02-24-2006, 03:29 PM
LM1? What is that?
The LM1 is the engine that came in the 1980 Camaro Z-28. It was a 350 cubic inch,which was rated at 190 Net horse power back then . I know because I had one. It was real slow stock compared with the Lt1's and Ls1's.

thelastz28
02-24-2006, 04:57 PM
02 Onyx Black Z/28 All Options
SLP Lid, LM 1, Holley Power Shot
332hp/334tq
^^^He was refering to the LM1 here.^^^^ Which, I beleive is the Loud Mouth 1. :dunno:
no one would look twice at me until I put Z on it
If it looks bad ass and sounds like an LS1 (not a V6) they will look twice.

oneBADDz
02-24-2006, 06:46 PM
If it looks bad ass and sounds like an LS1 (not a V6) they will look twice.
idiots are idiots

thelastz28
02-24-2006, 07:44 PM
I hope you're not calling me an idiot. :nono:

oneBADDz
02-24-2006, 07:51 PM
no no, people seriously would never look twice. Even with loudmouth I think it got passed off as a euro v6 camaro euro cause of the gfx. People are idiots. 150 yards off badgeless not running in the rain I could tell you what I'm looking at. I'll tell you what's coming up on me on the highway by the headlights, that's what guys like us do. I've seen other people get a camaro confused with a trans am

thelastz28
02-25-2006, 12:07 AM
I was thinking of de-badging my Z/28. :dunno: I also have the factory ground fx. People might think its an RS, until they hear the GMMG. :hide:

graphicsgod
02-25-2006, 06:11 AM
http://www.9c1.com/brochures/2001/01_b4c.pdf

On a side note,... I kinda like the stripes on that police package in the brochure :D.

Rob

NxLS1496
02-25-2006, 10:25 AM
would there be any reason to think that a b4c would be faster than a regular z28?? also, do they weigh less?

oneBADDz
02-25-2006, 11:50 AM
no faster, they don't weight less either

SilverFish
07-31-2008, 09:59 PM
My BC4 camaro had iron heads on an LT1. Cloth interior. Slick top Nothing else much different than I could tell. 140 amp alt I think.

67CamaroRSSS
07-31-2008, 10:39 PM
i know for a fact that they are geared differently to reach higher speeds and i believe they have been tuned a bit alsoWRONG! Show proof if you have it.

The B4C is a Z28 without the badging. It does have heavy duty everything and 1LE brakes. The engine, tranny and rear end is identical to the Z28. M6 is 3.42 geared and A4 is either 2.73's or 3.23 (optional).

On the other hand, police, sheriff and hiway patrol departments have been known to "super tune" their pursuit cars for peak performance but by law they have to be returned to "stock" prior to auction.

WOW! I just noticed the OP's date. Way old thread.

67CamaroRSSS
07-31-2008, 10:45 PM
My BC4 camaro had iron heads on an LT1. Cloth interior. Slick top Nothing else much different than I could tell. 140 amp alt I think.It's "B4C" and no 4th gen Camaro had iron heads on the LT1 from the factory.

FORD RECOVERY EXPERT
08-01-2008, 01:37 AM
i know for a fact that they are geared differently to reach higher speeds and i believe they have been tuned a bit also

I know, FOR A FACT, that you speak without doing your homework....

FORD RECOVERY EXPERT
08-01-2008, 01:39 AM
holy old post batman, your right... :sillyme:

RickZ2899
08-04-2008, 09:27 AM
Man this is an ancient thread, I forgot how long ago I posted this thing.

ggino85
08-04-2008, 09:43 AM
not to fuel the old fire, but did the LT1 b4c cars have anything done to it, performance wise. i have a coworker that has one and swears it is faster than other (LT1) cars

Pirate BlackJack Jay
08-04-2008, 03:28 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/PirateBlackJackJay/01310013.jpg

my buddy's cop car... i'll ask him what his says? maybe your's is like this w/ the badges removed!

WARP211
08-15-2008, 06:46 PM
I am preparing to buy a 2001 BC4 Hwy Patrol Camaro as soon as it is taken out of service at 80,000 miles. This is my first Chevy and I am eagerly awaiting taking ownership. Any tips on maintaining it? What are some of the best low cost bolt-ons to get more performance from it?

why would you wanna buy a used police car that been beating on by cops. :think: its the same as a z28.. you could find a much cleaner car by searching the web or auto trader with lower miles. And you will be much happier with that..

67CamaroRSSS
08-16-2008, 03:22 PM
Not all "cop cars" (B4C) were beat on. My buddy has a 2002 B4C that he bought at auction with only 7500 miles on it.

whazuupgto
08-16-2008, 03:53 PM
I beat on mine... car that is!!!

blackcamarob4c
08-18-2008, 09:51 PM
I just love my b4c. I got it from copcarsonline.com it was awsome! and still is. I am prowling the streets of hsv al. as we speak! It is a true sleeper.....all the goodies with no badges. how cool is that? I had it to 155 then wimped out.....it was still going and so smooth.......