The 2009 Nissan GT-R

[matthewaqui]

I was checking for any info on the 2009 Camaro and came across the site for the Nissan GT-R due for retail in 2009.

It boast:
• VR-series twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6.
• 480 hp @ 6,800 rpm. 430 lb-ft torque @ 3,200–5,200 rpm.
• Dual overhead camshafts with variable intake-valve timing.
• Cast aluminum cylinder block with high-endurance/low-friction plasma-sprayed bores.
• IHI twin turbochargers, one per cylinder bank.
• Pressurized lubrication system with thermostatically controlled cooling.

Those are pretty impressives Feautures for a V6 I thought. What do you think of this vehicle?

Matttttttt
http://www.gtrnissan.com/media/photos/nissan_gtr_05.lowres.jpg

[third_shift|studios]

wow, that's a sexy looking car! It's like all the best features of a 350z, rx8 and maxima in one

[third_shift|studios]

ok, front needs some work:

http://www.gtrnissan.com/img/gallery/GT-R_01.jpg

[matthewaqui]

You are right on the money with how it looks... that's what my brother said it looks like......also a RX-8 which is what he owns right now.... the Quad tail pipes in the pack looks nice..... yah, only if they modified the front it would look better...... The inside cockpit is pretty well designed too... you also have a choice of switching between manual and automatic.

But hell, at 480 Horses stock for a V6..... it has all other vehicles beat, including the Corvette and GTOs and the new LS2 Camaros... that is so ashame for I was looking to those new Maros........

I agree that front should go..... but the front is a resourceful front that does provide real air intake that flows to the engine and the fueling.. the air then exits through side vents cooling off the engine. The front is not for looks.

Mmmmmm
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2358/1757537662_39d132c90e.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2152/1804690094_875fc056d2.jpg?v=0

wow, that's a sexy looking car! It's like all the best features of a 350z, rx8 and maxima in one

[spacejunkiehsv]

It is also AWD. I think it is kind of ugly though. Plus it costs around $70,000 or $80,000.

One thing it will never match, is the sound of a V8. I'm driving a turbo AWD 4 banger right now. It is quick and handles great, but I miss my LS1's smoothness and sounds.

[matthewaqui]

The one thing that struck me the most was the shape of the cockpit.... look how it slopes back. It reminds me of a Mustang Fastback

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/58497916_b11b85241e.jpg?v=0

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/photos/92000/92494.1969.Ford.Mustang.2-Door.Fastback.jpg

[matthewaqui]

AWD huh? Hmmmm that sounds awful if it's $70,000...... I believe this vehicle is currently for sale in some parts of the world.

The rear of this vehicle somewhat looks like a Cobalt with those lights.

At any rate, I see you have a GTO..... a guy pulled up in a black decked out 2006 GTO delivered a pizza to a neighbor of mine...... He told me he was paying through the roof right now for that GTO.... he mentioned it came with factory turbo and some other things as I remembered.

How do you think your GTO compare to this guys?

Matttt...


It is also AWD. I think it is kind of ugly though. Plus it costs around $70,000 or $80,000.

One thing it will never match, is the sound of a V8. I'm driving a turbo AWD 4 banger right now. It is quick and handles great, but I miss my LS1's smoothness and sounds.

[JoshieDoom]

someone likes celicas


http://dmspec.com/store/images/Toyota-celica-Suj5.jpg

[spacejunkiehsv]

AWD huh? Hmmmm that sounds awful if it's $70,000...... I believe this vehicle is currently for sale in some parts of the world.

The rear of this vehicle somewhat looks like a Cobalt with those lights.

At any rate, I see you have a GTO..... a guy pulled up in a black decked out 2006 GTO delivered a pizza to a neighbor of mine...... He told me he was paying through the roof right now for that GTO.... he mentioned it came with factory turbo and some other things as I remembered.

How do you think your GTO compare to this guys?

Matttt...

I haven't updated my profile on here. I sold the 2004 GTO last year. It was a 6 speed and was my daily driver. Traffic has gotten worse around here, and I wanted something with an automatic that got a little better mileage. Plus, I couldn't see well out the rear of the GTO when changing lanes.

My GTO was stock except for a tune. It had under 3,000 (3 thousand) miles on it when I bought it from a dealer. I can't remember, but I think I paid $21,000 for it. It was either $21k or $22k. I sold it a year later for $19,000 after putting 20,000 miles on it.

[matthewaqui]

Odd to hear you couldn't see well out of the rear.. especially when the GTO was similiar in looks to your typical Sedan.

You should have went with a 4 cylinder Saturn L Series. They perform well for 4 cylinder.

Seems like you didn't lose that much from the sale of your GTO.

I'm looking to pick up a new Camaro 2009 when they arrive... I'm just not so certain of what the price will be. As I know, you can switch back and forth on those new Camaros between 4 and 8 cylinders. It's a nice option ..... and if you can get yourself a wrap around spoiler, you have yourself a super Trans Am..

Mmmmm

[matthewaqui]

Celicas looks good without the additional body parts........ though they are weak on acceleration.... my 4 cylinder Saturn is comparable to those Celicas....

I was just looking at a Dyno video of a Skyline GT-R.... it gave an output of 954 horses.. no shit there!

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[spacejunkiehsv]

This isn't my car, but this one looks EXACTLY like mine. It handles great, and has a fairly good aftermarket. I just removed one catalytic converter in the downpipe and downloaded an off the shelf tune to get it to 305 hp / 340 ft-lbs.
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=31299&postcount=15

[matthewaqui]

305 hp for a Subaru Legacy is a lot of horse.. it's a V8 right? Can't imagine that little sedan with a V8 though.

Your vehicle almost looks like my Saturn Sedan 4 door L200 series.... or course seating is much more comfortable in these Sedans. What year is your Subaru? Seems Recent.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[spacejunkiehsv]

It's a 2005. It is a 4 cylinder 2.5 liter. It has the same cams and internals as the STI. So, it will take a good bit of power. Mine has the 5 speed automatic that you can shift with the shifter or the buttons on the steering wheel. The same tranny went in (or still goes in) the Nissan Titan trucks, a Jatco transmission. All I've done, besides add power, is install a transmission cooler.

[third_shift|studios]

It is also AWD. I think it is kind of ugly though. Plus it costs around $70,000 or $80,000.

One thing it will never match, is the sound of a V8. I'm driving a turbo AWD 4 banger right now. It is quick and handles great, but I miss my LS1's smoothness and sounds.

its obviously not out to compete with camaros and mustangs then-sounds like a vette/viper/cobra hunter

[matthewaqui]

Yah, I guess so... I was reading about the 2009 ZR1 Corvette retailing at $100,000..........with 700 horses with 0 to 60 at 3 seconds.... the price of these vehicles are comparable to Porsche and Ferraris now.

The relief is that the new Camaros may be in everyone budgets. We will have to see.

Matttt

its obviously not out to compete with camaros and mustangs then-sounds like a vette/viper/cobra hunter

[Mr. Luos]

The side of that car is ugly.

Rear looks good, but I don't think I would have to worry about seeing it much from the rear.

[JwMonE99]

I think the skylines should fix up the front a little bit and it will be fine.

[basballny2]

not a bad looking car but for 80,000 id rather buy a vett

[Sleeper101]

I dont know! the vettes are starting to look too box style!! im not liking them taking all the curves out of it, Now this skyline is pretty Hot!!! I wouldnt give 80k for it but it is really nice.

[matthewaqui]

If that is the case, this vehicle is for you....... it has curves compared to the Challenger, SRT, Magnum, and Mustangs. Just when we thought the future is here and more curves will be involved, manufactures go backward because no one likes the egg shape I guess.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I dont know! the vettes are starting to look too box style!! im not liking them taking all the curves out of it, Now this skyline is pretty Hot!!! I wouldnt give 80k for it but it is really nice.

[spacejunkiehsv]

I dont know! the vettes are starting to look too box style!! im not liking them taking all the curves out of it, Now this skyline is pretty Hot!!! I wouldnt give 80k for it but it is really nice.
If they would change the rear end of the C6 to look more like the C5's rear end, it would look better. The C5 body style is one of the best looking cars, ever! If I were to get a Vette, it would be a C5. That is especially true, considering how much money I'd have to spend. I am trying to talk the wife into me getting a beater Corolla for driving back and forth to work and getting a used C5 for a fun car. Considering the money I'd save on gas, the cost is the same. My Legacy only gets 21mpg-23mpg in daily driving, and my commute is 35 miles one-way.

[Heartbreak1]

I think the front looks a hell of alot better than the concept version of the car they had before. Looks more aggressive.

[raynor139]

Well the high end model of the new gt-r according to the latest issue of motor trend will do 0-60 in 3.5 sec and the 1/4 in 11.7 sec which i believe puts it 2 tenths of a second faster then a C6 Z06

[Rikki_SeVeN]

I dunno if any of you saw this new Issue of MOTOR TREND, that names the Skyline... as...

As fast as a 911 Turbo, priced like a Z06
CORVETTE-KILLER
0-60 in 3.5sec >> 11.7-sec Quarter >> Under $80k
Nissan's 192-MPH GT-R Rewrites the supercar rulebook

[hutch1999]

damn japs lol...

[raynor139]

oh well wait till they get a taste of the new ZR-1 that should teach them a lesson not to mess with Americans b/c we will out do you just b/c we can

[matthewaqui]

The 2000 ZR-1 will equal the GT-R in performance... but you have to remember that this Nissan is a 6 Cylinder and will cost $30,000 less than that ZR-1

oh well wait till they get a taste of the new ZR-1 that should teach them a lesson not to mess with Americans b/c we will out do you just b/c we can

[jrc1122]

nice car- a bit pricy in my opinion. People who spend 70k + for cars, don't usually go for cars like this. Just my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, if the car was say $45- 50 k I would think it was a MUCH better deal.


Hard to argue with those stats though :)

[570SSX]

Love the new Nissan GTR's. Im a nissan fan, second only to being a GM fan. This is the new Nissan Skyline GTR, it hasn't been sold anywhere yet. They are calling it the Nissan GTR, because the infinity G35 was marketted as the new Skyline in other parts of the world. I love it, but I think they are messing up by making it so pricey. The old skyline gtr's went for around $50k new(R34). I think they may be letting the recent popularity of the older skylines and the number bringing them stateside to thier heads. The price may bite them in the ass.

[PontiacFan]

Pretty ugly from the front.






(And WTF does this have to do with the 'Firebird/WS6' forum?!?)

[matthewaqui]

Hahahahaha... someone finally brought it up..... it does have nothing to do with the Firebird, though I bring it up to see how people would compare.... since I searched high and low to find out what the release price of the Camaro 2009 would be and ran across this vehicle.

It just sucks the hell because this vehicle is pumping out so much power for a V6 just like the Carreras.

Besides man, after work, I was next to a pretty new GTO....... it didn't sound like the vehicle accelerated very well against my Trans Am. hahahaahah

Pretty ugly from the front.


(And WTF does this have to do with the 'Firebird/WS6' forum?!?)

[nate_the_great17]

i want one :yup:

[Heartbreak1]

i want one :yup:

Give me the keys to your T/A. You don't deserve to drive it if you want one of those sushi rockets.

[matthewaqui]

Yah, as I read...... this car has been selling well outside of the US since 1970... for the price, it would not sell like hotcakes..... but then again, the Viper does not fly off the shelf at the same price either. Since you love Nissans, this vehicle entail a little of all the vehicles out there, even the Hyundai Tiberion somewhat in the back.

There is always someone who would buy these vehicle just because ... even though they are pricey. Just look, instead of buying your low end Ford Expedition, people spring for those Hummers....... drove me nuts to see how many Hummers driving around California.........

For example: I walked by an apartment 2 days ago and saw a nice Vette parking underneath a car port. Though they don't own a home, they will spring for an expensive vehicle.

All in all, I rather pick up vehicle stocked with the power and parts rather than making the aftermarket additions... which I have done on both my Trans Am.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Love the new Nissan GTR's. Im a nissan fan, second only to being a GM fan. This is the new Nissan Skyline GTR, it hasn't been sold anywhere yet. They are calling it the Nissan GTR, because the infinity G35 was marketted as the new Skyline in other parts of the world. I love it, but I think they are messing up by making it so pricey. The old skyline gtr's went for around $50k new(R34). I think they may be letting the recent popularity of the older skylines and the number bringing them stateside to thier heads. The price may bite them in the ass.

[matthewaqui]

i want one :yup:

Shameful that vehicle will beat the TA, New Camaro, Mustangs, ZR Vettes, Challengers........ only if we can plop a Trans Am body on it!

[matthewaqui]

Give me the keys to your T/A. You don't deserve to drive it if you want one of those sushi rockets.

:uzi: I want one too if they were only $15,000 hahahaah They look lighter than the TA and suck up less gas.... other than that man, their suspension does not creak like my TA is right now! :brick:

Had the bushings and plenty things changed on my TA this year..... I have never been in an old import where the suspension creak... that's shameful too!

[Rikki_SeVeN]

:uzi: I want one too if they were only $15,000 hahahaah They look lighter than the TA and suck up less gas.... other than that man, their suspension does not creak like my TA is right now! :brick:

Had the bushings and plenty things changed on my TA this year..... I have never been in an old import where the suspension creak... that's shameful too!

WRONG WRONG WRONG... 3800lbs... Curb Weight...in the GTR...compared to a T/A's 3500lbs... and it's a Turbo car... so you'll have to drive it pretty hard to get it to move...so it's a gas guzler... 15/21mph...

as per EPA ratings...

[matthewaqui]

Yah... I was taking a guess there but I thought it was close to the TA in pounds..... I think it's a dual turbo...

I read today that the Challenger would also have monster horses though it would be pretty heavy.... we don't hear much of the Challenger.

We need to trade up to the new Camaro and throw on a Wrap around Spoiler and we will have it made for looks.

WRONG WRONG WRONG... 3800lbs... Curb Weight...in the GTR...compared to a T/A's 3500lbs... and it's a Turbo car... so you'll have to drive it pretty hard to get it to move...so it's a gas guzler... 15/21mph...

as per EPA ratings...

[Heartbreak1]

Yah... I was taking a guess there but I thought it was close to the TA in pounds..... I think it's a dual turbo...

I read today that the Challenger would also have monster horses though it would be pretty heavy.... we don't hear much of the Challenger.

We need to trade up to the new Camaro and throw on a Wrap around Spoiler and we will have it made for looks.

You know what kills me? They passed that stupid friggin bill or whatever the hell it was saying car manufacturers have to make it so the average vehicle fuel economy is like 25mpg or some crap like that yet they are still building alot of gas guzzling rockets! :lmao: Looks like Bush the chimp got screwed over again. :jerkit:

[Y2KPewterSS]

What do you think of this vehicle?



I think since this vehicle has nothing to do with a Firebird, its moving to a more appropriate forum.

[570SSX]

and it's a Turbo car... so you'll have to drive it pretty hard to get it to move

Never been in a factory turbo car that had to be driven hard to get it to move, especially not a twin turbo, and I've owned a few. Most factory turbo cars have very little, if any, lag. Still not compareable to the under the curve power of most V8's, but by no means have to be driven hard. You should try it.

As far as the weight, yeah 3800 lbs is heavy, but 300 lbs difference is not that much in a production car. And considering this is an AWD car with and iron block and twin turbos, I'd say thats decent compared to some of the cars for sale today. A GTO for example.

[Method]

I dunno if any of you saw this new Issue of MOTOR TREND, that names the Skyline... as...

As fast as a 911 Turbo, priced like a Z06
CORVETTE-KILLER
0-60 in 3.5sec >> 11.7-sec Quarter >> Under $80k
Nissan's 192-MPH GT-R Rewrites the supercar rulebook


OK we had this debate on another forum...

2007 Corvette Z06 is 0-60 in 3.7secs and 11.8sec 1/4 mile, how is that a corvette killer?

A 2005 Porsche 911 GT2 3.6secs 11.7 1/4 mile, seems pretty equal to me?


And those are quotes for the 2009 GT-R I'm sure by then the vette and porsche will be faster. So Motor Trend can go pound sand.

[Rikki_SeVeN]

Never been in a factory turbo car that had to be driven hard to get it to move, especially not a twin turbo, and I've owned a few. Most factory turbo cars have very little, if any, lag. Still not compareable to the under the curve power of most V8's, but by no means have to be driven hard. You should try it.

As far as the weight, yeah 3800 lbs is heavy, but 300 lbs difference is not that much in a production car. And considering this is an AWD car with and iron block and twin turbos, I'd say thats decent compared to some of the cars for sale today. A GTO for example.

My buddy's TT Supra...is mostly stock...and it takes quite a bit of pedal to get it moving to normal traffic speed... more then I'd like to use... myself...

hm... and um... I just read that Skyline will be Paddle Shifted Auto... :( ... that sucks

[Rikki_SeVeN]

OK we had this debate on another forum...

2007 Corvette Z06 is 0-60 in 3.7secs and 11.8sec 1/4 mile, how is that a corvette killer?

A 2005 Porsche 911 GT2 3.6secs 11.7 1/4 mile, seems pretty equal to me?


And those are quotes for the 2009 GT-R I'm sure by then the vette and porsche will be faster. So Motor Trend can go pound sand.

:true: I completly Agree... Motor Trend often over exagerates things... plus um... 11.7 at 149.1 mph.... that's what it says on there... I dunno about in the states...but a Subaru STi that runs 9.5's here... traps 148 mph...

[570SSX]

My buddy's TT Supra...is mostly stock...and it takes quite a bit of pedal to get it moving to normal traffic speed... more then I'd like to use... myself...

hm... and um... I just read that Skyline will be Paddle Shifted Auto... :( ... that sucks

Sounds like somethings wrong with it lol. Of course, those Supras weigh around 4000lbs :sillyme:

I hope they atleast offer it with a manual, that would be stupid not to. Who am I kidding, I love the new GTR's, but theres no way in hell I'd spend that kind of cash on one when I can pick up a C6 Z06.

[matthewaqui]

I'll try a test drive in it when it is for sale..... I have never been in a turbo car before..... from what I've heard, once it is running, acceleration through the turbo gives you a super boost...... I'm sure this Nissan is comparable to the Carrera Turbo V6.

By the way.....if there is a Ford Pinto that's kicking out 800 horses with a V6.... would you want to own it? hahahaha When it comes down to it... I think many rather have looks over power, especially in the city.

When it comes to Horsepower over gas mileage, I think most prefer mileage these days when a gallon may hit 4 or 5 bucks, especially if you are driving 50 plus miles a day.

Never been in a factory turbo car that had to be driven hard to get it to move, especially not a twin turbo, and I've owned a few. Most factory turbo cars have very little, if any, lag. Still not compareable to the under the curve power of most V8's, but by no means have to be driven hard. You should try it.

As far as the weight, yeah 3800 lbs is heavy, but 300 lbs difference is not that much in a production car. And considering this is an AWD car with and iron block and twin turbos, I'd say thats decent compared to some of the cars for sale today. A GTO for example.

[matthewaqui]

A couple point of a second is not much to brag about... but I think it comes down to the price tag........then again, a 3/11 second vehicle would not be a daily driven car. All the fun in driving is gone.......................

Many TA owners don't drive their vehicle every day either.................


:true: I completly Agree... Motor Trend often over exagerates things... plus um... 11.7 at 149.1 mph.... that's what it says on there... I dunno about in the states...but a Subaru STi that runs 9.5's here... traps 148 mph...

[basballny2]

first off.....who knows if this is even coming out.....2ndly, i dont know how much more you would be able to add to a car like this, being its a 6 cyl. and already twin turboed, add a twin turbo to a T/A and u have over 480hp for under 80,000......im not sure im sold on this idea

[nate_the_great17]

Give me the keys to your T/A. You don't deserve to drive it if you want one of those sushi rockets.

i just appreciatea nice car thats all. i would still keep my T/A but any car that comes with 430 hp out factory is good in my book:coffee:

[Wesman]

Looks gay as hell...like something straight out of transformers, where they forgot to round off all the sharp edges of the bodywork. Front end also looks suspiciously similar to the New Mitsubitchi Evo X.

80K for a Nissan G35 with twin turbos, automatic, and a 3800lbs curb weight. You've got to be kidding me :typer:

And they say its a Corvette killer?? Yea, maybe if they made a V6 Corvette, then it might have a chance. You're on crack if you think a 3800lb automatic pig of a car with crappy V6 turbo powerband is going to outrun a 505+HP Z06 that weighs 3200lbs with 6 speed manual to boot.

[basballny2]

whoever says corvette killer is on crack....its a dirvers race for 1 or 2 tenths of a second

[570SSX]

first off.....who knows if this is even coming out.....2ndly, i dont know how much more you would be able to add to a car like this, being its a 6 cyl. and already twin turboed, add a twin turbo to a T/A and u have over 480hp for under 80,000......im not sure im sold on this idea

This car has been in development for longer than the new camaro, it's well documented that it will be in production. The Skyline GTR has always been about more than just hp. Its easily the one of the most successful platforms in racing worldwide, especially in Japan of course.

As far as the motor, factory turbo motors are usually easier and cheaper to pull larger amounts of addition power from in most situations. And the motor its derived from has already been tested to 1800+ hp. I garuantee you'll see 800 hp versions of these immediately after they come out, considering all they'll have to do is up the boost and add a few bolt ons.

But I do agree that its to pricey.

[basballny2]

keep the jap cars in japan.....there not supporting our economy by buying american cars.....but we have dumbass people in this coutnry supporting there economy by buying there cars......dumb

[blackbirdbrain89]

i cant wait till i see one runing a around.. ill get to add it to the kill list ..hahah by the time i see one of them ill be faster. as i sit now im dead in the watter..lol any ways what about the corvette ss ??? any one have and idea on numbers.. 0-60 -0-100-0 1/4 top speed.. and price

[Rikki_SeVeN]

first off.....who knows if this is even coming out.....2ndly, i dont know how much more you would be able to add to a car like this, being its a 6 cyl. and already twin turboed, add a twin turbo to a T/A and u have over 480hp for under 80,000......im not sure im sold on this idea

actually they said there should be a ... "V-Spec"... version... that will be pusing 550HP... and will be a little lighter...

for those who don't enjoy modding on their own...and wanna pay up the ars for it...

[NvyBluMtlc02WS6]

Ok, I know this thread is about the GT-R, but more along the lines of the new Camaro and domestic vs. domestic, has anyone read about this?
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/12924/2007-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-super-snake.html

[Method]

Ok, I know this thread is about the GT-R, but more along the lines of the new Camaro and domestic vs. domestic, has anyone read about this?
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/12924/2007-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-super-snake.html

Meh, a car they'll make 100 of is is hardly a concern, specially when you pay $90K for a FORD! :denied:

[Wesman]

This car has been in development for longer than the new camaro, it's well documented that it will be in production. The Skyline GTR has always been about more than just hp. Its easily the one of the most successful platforms in racing worldwide, especially in Japan of course.

According to who?? I love these blanket statements, that is merely your opinion, nothing more.

As far as the motor, factory turbo motors are usually easier and cheaper to pull larger amounts of addition power from in most situations. And the motor its derived from has already been tested to 1800+ hp. I garuantee you'll see 800 hp versions of these immediately after they come out, considering all they'll have to do is up the boost and add a few bolt ons.

Where has this been documanted?? Sounds like you're just pulling numbers out of thin air. Its an aluminum Nissan VQ, bullshit it was "tested to 1800HP". There is no way in hell the car will support 800HP either, you can kiss that automatic trans goodbye as well as the rest of the AWD drivetrain :Pow:

[Rikki_SeVeN]

Where has this been documanted?? Sounds like you're just pulling numbers out of thin air. Its an aluminum Nissan VQ, bullshit it was "tested to 1800HP". There is no way in hell the car will support 800HP either, you can kiss that automatic trans goodbye as well as the rest of the AWD drivetrain :Pow:

um, according to the Nissan Managment... (per Motor Trend)... they say it's completely redesigned from the normal VQ bullshit...and will be a much stronger motor as it stands... probably not 1800hp...LOL... but easilly 1000hp... I mean G35's have been known to get to 900whp... in some ocasions... anything is posible if the money is right... ya know?!

:news:

[Wesman]

um, according to the Nissan Managment... (per Motor Trend)... they say it's completely redesigned from the normal VQ bullshit...and will be a much stronger motor as it stands... probably not 1800hp...LOL... but easilly 1000hp... I mean G35's have been known to get to 900whp... in some ocasions... anything is posible if the money is right... ya know?!

:news:

Nissan management is a bunch of bullshitters. Just like the Nissan Titan was going to overthrow the big three in the truck market :lmao: Too bad for them its just another piece of Jap crap.

I've never heard of a 900WHP VQ. And I can't imagine one would last more than about 2 minutes anyway.

[Rikki_SeVeN]

Nissan management is a bunch of bullshitters. Just like the Nissan Titan was going to overthrow the big three in the truck market :lmao: Too bad for them its just another piece of Jap crap.

I've never heard of a 900WHP VQ. And I can't imagine one would last more than about 2 minutes anyway.

I saw it in some Super Compacto (tunner) Magazine... anyways most I've perosnally seen is like 600whp...and even that is pushing it...

agian... anything is posible if the money ir right...

[Wesman]

I saw it in some Super Compacto (tunner) Magazine... anyways most I've perosnally seen is like 600whp...and even that is pushing it...

agian... anything is posible if the money ir right...

I'm not going to disagree...there is a local kid who invested 30K in his Honda Civic to make it run 11's. Anything is possible, but it doesn't mean its a good idea.

[Rikki_SeVeN]

I'm not going to disagree...there is a local kid who invested 30K in his Honda Civic to make it run 11's. Anything is possible, but it doesn't mean its a good idea.

holly crap did he get fked over!!!... with that much money... he could've bought a 5.0L and made it into a 9 second car... or who knows... LOL

[Wesman]

holly crap did he get fked over!!!... with that much money... he could've bought a 5.0L and made it into a 9 second car... or who knows... LOL

Nahh, he said Domestics are slow and gay, he only drives Honduhs.

You know how ricers are :Pow:

[Rikki_SeVeN]

Nahh, he said Domestics are slow and gay, he only drives Honduhs.

You know how ricers are :Pow:

yeah, I hate ricers...but around here they do alot with little money... like Low 12's on a Toyota Tercel...

or... um... 10 flat on a CRX...on a motor Swap and Turbo... less then $10K on mods...

[blackbirdbrain89]

thers a bunch of honda guys running around one dudes got a k 20 trubo. hes in the low 12s .. yeat i beat his ass on the high way .. so imo junk ..

[Sleeper101]

Where has this been documanted?? Sounds like you're just pulling numbers out of thin air. Its an aluminum Nissan VQ, bullshit it was "tested to 1800HP". There is no way in hell the car will support 800HP either, you can kiss that automatic trans goodbye as well as the rest of the AWD drivetrain

(Wesman) You willing to put your money were your mouth is yet? You talk all this crap about Jap But yet everything you have ever said about them has been opinionated by you!

The day you get the balls to race a real Jap car PM me:buttkick:!! Ill show you how a real jap car runs!:Owned:

[matthewaqui]

Everyone has their interest between imports and domestics......... no one ever has any thing bad to say about Lamborghinis, Porsches, etc. hahaha Funny huh? When it comes to technology of the sorts, the Asian companies out torque the US, thus, I wouldn't put them down if they manufactured a superior vehicle when necessary.

Any high end vehicle from Japan would be reared to the Western world for they don't have the road or would have the capital to purchase such a vehicle.

Asia is driven on Economical vehicles..........

Years ago when looking for a vehicle, I test drove a Nissan Frontier...... the acceleration on it sucked.....compared to a Toyota truck.... just depends on the vehicle and involved components.

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(Wesman) You willing to put your money were your mouth is yet? You talk all this crap about Jap But yet everything you have ever said about them has been opinionated by you!

The day you get the balls to race a real Jap car PM me:buttkick:!! Ill show you how a real jap car runs!:Owned:

[Wesman]

(Wesman) You willing to put your money were your mouth is yet? You talk all this crap about Jap But yet everything you have ever said about them has been opinionated by you!

The day you get the balls to race a real Jap car PM me:buttkick:!! Ill show you how a real jap car runs!:Owned:

Dude get a life...I don't care about your crappy riceburners, this discussion is about the '09 Nissan Skyline GT-R. I gave my opinion, deal with it.

You're obviously so insecure about your choice in vehicles that you feel the need to challenge everyone to a race who doesn't share the same opinion as you. You aren't proving anything, nor are you going to convert anyone to the ricer side by doing so. :rolleyes:

[blackbirdbrain89]

dude your in a ls1 page.. the fact of the matter ther much more of us driving and loving our canadian cars then ther is likeing any other import.. live with it .. if u loking for a race ill give u a link for a honda site:hahano:

[Sleeper101]

Dude get a life...I don't care about your crappy riceburners, this discussion is about the '09 Nissan Skyline GT-R. I gave my opinion, deal with it.

You're obviously so insecure about your choice in vehicles that you feel the need to challenge everyone to a race who doesn't share the same opinion as you. You aren't proving anything, nor are you going to convert anyone to the ricer side by doing so. :rolleyes:

:ughlaugh: Hmm sounds like your insecure about your pride and loosing to a Riceburner:nana: Im pretty confident that ill bend you over my knee and make you wish you never trash talked me!:nono:

The only person I have challenged for a race on here buddy has been you!! and thats b/c you talk all B.S and show nothing! Someone get this man a Beer!:moon:

I try to convert No-one to a Jap car! Everyone has there own opionion about it but your the only one that calls it a Piece of Shit b/f it has even came out on the market! Just B/C its a Jap car!

A real car guy would see its another nice piece of machinery that will be driven on the road as for the corvettes, camaro's Trans-am's, Porshes, Lamborghinis, Evo's, Sti's, Audi's, BMW's, ETC!! Nothing wrong with High performance AWD, Turbo and 6 cyl's of pure muscle pounding the road.

As for the Gt-R out of the Awd TURBO line up in choice it would be in my opinion the Skyline or the porshe 911 of choice! Porshe still wins performance wise but I think as a more comfort car to drive the skyline would win do to the size of the car. The skyline will be more luxury! But the Skyline is priced lower than the porshe so for the extra $ you are going to spend you can upgrade the skyline and prob own the porshe! From What I have read the new Corvette is going to be in the 100grand range itself! and from what Motor Trend has recorded the Skyline has a slight edge, So Lets see them go at it!! Im ready to see some racing so people will hush with all this talk and no walk!!

[Sleeper101]

dude your in a ls1 page.. the fact of the matter ther much more of us driving and loving our canadian cars then ther is likeing any other import.. live with it .. if u loking for a race ill give u a link for a honda site:hahano:

I own a Trans am 383 Stroker!! Thats why im in the Ls1 page! But I also own a 240sx I drag race! I have a skyline engine in it so I know a smiggin about them! (wesman) more than likely has never seen or heard of these cars in person and is always opinionated about them. Thats why I ride his case!

Why did I choose to race my 240 over my T/A?

Simple My 240 will out handle the T/A any day of the week, and you never see an import ever do anything on a track so to be different I built one to make guys piss there pants when I beat them.

I have never been in a car that gives you complete control like my 240 does! I can be at a 80 degree angle sideways and pull out of it like a piece of cake! Hell I can pull out of a 90 if there is enough road!

Im not putting the T/A down I love my T/A, But out of both my cars I drive I like my 240 better. Lots more power, and better handling, For racing, as for Street driving Ill stay with the T/A. My 240 has Posi traction and a stage 4 race clutch so city driving is no fun at red lights, all I can do is pull out squaling the tires or kill the motor taking off easy!

[jomo]

Tell it like it is and take no shit from anybody Sleeper101.

[Sleeper101]

Tell it like it is and take no shit from anybody Sleeper101.

HAHA!!! Thanks!! Ill do my best...:whip:

[2000T/A Guru]

Listen skylines are and can be great cars, but they are overpriced, the GTR-34 costs 60k new and ran 13s, way over priced, yes you can make 1000awhp but you can put those numbers to the ground with almost anything and the right setup. The new skyline is nice, but the complete ruined the design of the car in my opinon by switching to a v6 fro ma inline. The inline 6 motors liek the 7mgte, RB26, 2jz have proved the can be bullet proof. This new skyline motor will need to be put ot the test. From what i have seen with the 350z 3.5liter they fail under extreme horsepower. Now if you want to compare the skyline to ls2 vette and what not go ahead, from anywhere but a dig they will be a good race, the skyline weighs 3800lbs with 480hp, the vette 3300lbs with 400hp and it gets more to the ground cause its not AWD and it has a better power band. Now the ls7 against the skyline isnt a race at all, with sticky tires bone stock ls7s have gone high 10s a full second faster than the skyline. We all know what a full second looks like in the quarter mile, about 12 cars lol.

[matthewaqui]

A person would be dumb to argue over handling given the knowledge of weight... hands down the Porsche can handle turns and corners better than a TA for a couple reasons, but mostly weight. The more weight on a vehicle will take more effort to stop it.

Hands down for I can vouch that the GT-R will handle much better than a TA, given its light composition and various performance parts which are stock...... A better bang for your buck is on the GT-R.... and yes, the comparable ZR-1 Corvette will be $100 K (Viper or Corvette than?).

A true intelligent vehicle enthusiast would admire the performance of a vehicle and know how to compare the peformance based on price, quality, and specifications as well as features.

I love my two Trans Ams with an open mind about any other high performance vehicle, whether it be a Truck, Sedan, or a Sport. This is the reason why I brought up this thread about the GT-R.

Here at my work desk, I have that issue of the GT-R... I have not even read it... I see the cover now.... I scanned in the cover and the engine so you guys can take a look. I like the dual air port on the engine.... air efficiency for the mixture is nicely distributed and increase.. check it out:

http://www.activeone.com/ta/mag1.jpg

http://www.activeone.com/ta/mag2.jpg

Here.. check out the 2012 concept.....it's looking more like one of those sports Cadillacs.... look at the triple layered side vents... not looking very hot either!!! Our Trans Am bodies are looking way better than these new Corvette Concepts by far!!!
http://www.activeone.com/ta/mag3.jpg

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I own a Trans am 383 Stroker!! Thats why im in the Ls1 page! But I also own a 240sx I drag race! I have a skyline engine in it so I know a smiggin about them! (wesman) more than likely has never seen or heard of these cars in person and is always opinionated about them. Thats why I ride his case!

[Sleeper101]

Listen skylines are and can be great cars, but they are overpriced, the GTR-34 costs 60k new and ran 13s, way over priced, yes you can make 1000awhp but you can put those numbers to the ground with almost anything and the right setup. The new skyline is nice, but the complete ruined the design of the car in my opinon by switching to a v6 fro ma inline. The inline 6 motors liek the 7mgte, RB26, 2jz have proved the can be bullet proof. This new skyline motor will need to be put ot the test. From what i have seen with the 350z 3.5liter they fail under extreme horsepower. Now if you want to compare the skyline to ls2 vette and what not go ahead, from anywhere but a dig they will be a good race, the skyline weighs 3800lbs with 480hp, the vette 3300lbs with 400hp and it gets more to the ground cause its not AWD and it has a better power band. Now the ls7 against the skyline isnt a race at all, with sticky tires bone stock ls7s have gone high 10s a full second faster than the skyline. We all know what a full second looks like in the quarter mile, about 12 cars lol.

This is what Motor Authority had to say about it:
After months of spy shots and drip-fed teasers Nissan’s all new GT-R super-coupe has been revealed with the early release of the December issue of MotorTrend. The tagline on the magazine’s cover claims the car is as fast as the Porsche 911 Turbo and is priced less than $80,000, confirming rumors the new GT-R will set a new standard in bang-for-your-buck comparisons.


Other details include the GT-R’s acceleration time of 3.5 seconds for the 0-60mph and 11.7 seconds for the quarter mile. Top speed is claimed to be a staggering 192mph.

Although we still don’t have any official details about the car’s new drivetrain, most are expecting to see a 3.8L V6 engine fed by a pair of turbochargers and mated to a dual-clutch gearbox with the latest ATESSA all-wheel drive setup. The car should measure in at 4,650mm in length and 1,920mm across. There’s rumored to be three different flavors of the new GT-R, starting with a 450hp entry-level model and ranging up to a 530hp flagship. This latter version is expected to be a stripped out racer with plenty of carbon-fiber and a track-tuned suspension.

Motor Trend Opinions:
"No Japanese car has a weight-to-power ratio below 4 kg/hp [8.8 lb/hp]," says Mizuno. With a target ratio of 3.7 kg/hp (8.1 lb/hp), and a desired weight of 1720 kg (3782 pounds) for this four-seater, the only solution was to create power and lots of it.

Bleeding-edge tech such as plasma-deposited cylinder linings and one-piece turbo/exhaust manifolds help produce 480 horses and 443 pound-feet of torque.Like the three generations of Skyline GT-R before it, the GT-R is powered by a twin-turbocharged and intercooled, six-cylinder engine, although this time the cylinders are arranged in a vee of aluminum instead of an inline block of iron. Displacement has jumped to 3.8 liters, but this isn't merely a bore-and-stroke job on the twin-throttle-body 3.7-liter V-6 found in the Infiniti G37 (itself a variant of the VQ35 3.5-liter V-6 Nissan put in everything from Altimas to Zs). Mizuno claims the GT-R's engine is vastly different, citing bleeding-edge technology like a friction-reducing plasma-deposited cylinder lining material that is said to be an industry first. Another first: Each of the two IHI turbocharger housings is integrated into its exhaust manifold to reduce weight, space, and heat loss. What's all this calculus good for? Mizuno says 480 horsepower and 443 pound-feet of torque on premium unleaded, though rumors abound that a lighter-weight, super-sport version making roughly 530 horses may make it to this country.

2008 Nissan GT-R
Base Price $60,000-80,000 (est)
Vehicle Layout Front engine, AWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
Engine 3.8L/480-hp (est) /432 lb-ft (est) twin-turbo DOHC 24-valve V6
Transmission 6-speed auto-clutch manual
Curb Weight 3800 lb (mfr)
Wheelbase 109.4 in
Length x Width x Height 183.1 x 74.6 x 54.0 in
0-60 MPH 3.5 sec (mfr est)
EPA City/HWY Econ 15/21 mpg (est)
CO2 Emissions 1.13 lb/mi (est)
On Sale In U.S. June 2008

[basballny2]

mathewaqui ..... the GT-R's are supposed to be 4,000 lbs. no?

[2000T/A Guru]

Yeah they wont be light, but i think they wil lbe nice cars, like i said i dotn trust the nissan v6s under extreme power like i do the inlines. As for the dual intake, cars have been running with dual intakes for years, some even have 6 throttle bodys. So its nothing new

[Rikki_SeVeN]

Yeah they wont be light, but i think they wil lbe nice cars, like i said i dotn trust the nissan v6s under extreme power like i do the inlines. As for the dual intake, cars have been running with dual intakes for years, some even have 6 throttle bodys. So its nothing new

the 300ZX N/A and Turbo... both had 2 individual Throtel bodys... so yeah...nothing new there.... and yeah... I wouldn't trust the V6 to handle as much as a inline engine would...

[matthewaqui]

mathewaqui ..... the GT-R's are supposed to be 4,000 lbs. no?

Here are the Spec's and comparison..... 3800 lbs. It's a nice sturdy weight. Evidently, Nissan was going after the Porsches in the design of this vehicle... it's falling a tad short at taking the Carrera 911 Turbo.


http://www.activeone.com/ta/spec1.jpg

http://www.activeone.com/ta/spec2.jpg

[matthewaqui]

The one good thing about this vehicle is that it doesn't have any deteriorating signal sockets like our Trans Am.... :playball:

Hell man, once again, for the price and peformance, it ranks much better than so many of those higher end vehicles.

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[2000T/A Guru]

Yes but i buy my cars to street race, now 60-80 is a big range, if its more towards the 80 side you can get new z06s for less than 80. And from a roll like a i said earlier it wont win, its kinda like racing a evo wit hour cars, from a dig its a better race. This car is probably getting around 400hp to the wheels, and the z06 somewhere around 430-440, in a car that weighs 500lbs less. The ls7 powerband is and insane range. Its a nice car, but its to heavy and the they took away what made the skyline such amazine car, the inline 6, i keep saying it cause i dont think you people know what made the GTR-34 such a beast. The fact that the block could hold isnane amount of horsepower that these VQ motors simply cant handle. There was no need to move it from a 3.0 to a 3.8 if your gonna take away the ablity for it to hold the insane amounts of boost and hp they used to, i have seen skylines with 1300awhp, and the run low 8s high 7s. With stock blocks thats how bullet proof they were and thats what made them great.

[matthewaqui]

Why they would do that is beyond our guess since we didn't design it.... I seen those dynos with the 1000 hp... remarkable for such a vehicle. I agree they would only do better on the roll when the Turbo is spinning...... At any rate, I think they would give the Corvette a run for it's money.

I would be hard press to decide if I had the extra bucks to purchase those vehicle... for I would want the Viper.. but with the gas price, man I would be sucked dry of cash just to keep a V12 engine on the road!!!!

If you take the GT-R engine and throw it in the Viper.. you have looks and performance, much more appealing with lower fuel consumption.. what a package?!!! :suicide:

By the way.. to us, the range of 60 - 80 might be big, but not those who can afford a vehicle over $50,000.......... I guess for that price, I could purchase 3 or 4 2009 Camaros and have my daily preference drive!

[2000T/A Guru]

Im saying it will do worse on a roll, it doenst matter if the turbos are spoiled or not its only makeing 400awhp, whcih is good but not compared to the 440rwhp of the vette. It would be a closer race from a dig thanks to its AWD. Rear wheel drive is the fastest kind of drive train for straight line racing, as long as you can hook. Yes it can beat the z06 aroudn a track, but on the street it would get raped. Now lets compare it to the new Corvette with the ls9, a 653hp motor in a 3300lbs car. GM is getting to crazy, thats a 580rwhp corvette with drag radials it could run low 10s with a insaen drive maybe hit 9s.

[hutch1999]

So these times are all estimated? No real times yet?

[2000T/A Guru]

Well think about it, the ls7 with 440rwhp and drag radials and a good driver can hit high 10s, like 10.8s. Now add 150hp to that,

[matthewaqui]

Another Note:

It's speculate that this Vehicle will hit the 530 HP mark when it is manufacture for the U.S.......... it was written that the performance of this vehicle is equivalent to a $400,000 performance vehicle....

[basballny2]

i dont understand how people can be SO DUMB to call it a corvette killer.....get over urselves, i cant wait till the z06 just steps on this thing so every1 will shut the fuck up about these stupid jap cars

[Sleeper101]

Well I own the Rb25det engine which is the inline 6 of the Nissan's and the power band isnt that bad! I mean on stock boost 4psi its not OMG fast but it doesnt have any turbo lag! Pretty much instant boost, I mean if you think about a street race from a roll or even a dead stop I can always keep my RPM range above 3,000 which is were i hit max boost and I have a power band to 7,000. I cranked the boost on my stock turbo to 10PSI and I launch at 5,000 RPM's on M:T drag radials and pull 1.6 60's all day in my 240sx and thats with the motor bogging after the launch due to alot of fuel and not enough air. But I just bought a 2 step launch control so I can build boost off the line for next year so I should get it down to 1.4-1.5 60'. But you cant beat the power from the inline nor the rumble! it sounds like a v8 all day on open header! Im running open down pipe so its a little loud! But when I go to the track I like putting on a show for the v8 guys with my pro stock burnouts through the lights and half way down the track just for fun! If you pull up against a v8 there like wat the F***!!! HAHA Then I usually pull 1 -3 car lengths on them out of the lights! only cars I had beat me is Pro drag cars running Nitrous. But Its fun messing with people that dont have a clue to what you have!

They should have never went to the v6 but im not the Engineer who built the car so im sure they had reasons behind it!

[jomo]

The numbers that they quote are from nissan. And lets keep the 650hp ls9 out of it, comparing a car that has 150+hp more is not fare. The Z06 made its mark on a race track not the quater mile track even though it does well there. There is alot more to a car then driving in a straight line.

I think it is great we all have another fast car to race. Stock for stock the Z06 and the Nissan GTR will be a good race. On the street with street tires the GTR will be hard to beat. I think that a Z06 will run it down even if the GTR gets the jump off the line and on the role Z06 will win.

But again this is all talk because it is not even out yet. Who knows how fast it really is or how many power levels it come in.

[Wesman]

I have never been in a car that gives you complete control like my 240 does! I can be at a 80 degree angle sideways and pull out of it like a piece of cake! Hell I can pull out of a 90 if there is enough road!

Im not putting the T/A down I love my T/A, But out of both my cars I drive I like my 240 better. Lots more power, and better handling, For racing, as for Street driving Ill stay with the T/A. My 240 has Posi traction and a stage 4 race clutch so city driving is no fun at red lights, all I can do is pull out squaling the tires or kill the motor taking off easy!

I've driven a modified 240 and I thought it was a complete piece of trash. I can't see anyone preferring to drive one of those pieces of shit over a 383 stroker Trans Am. You've got to be kidding, that shows the true ricer in you.

[dlmeadows]

:Popcorn:

[Wesman]

The numbers that they quote are from nissan. And lets keep the 650hp ls9 out of it, comparing a car that has 150+hp more is not fare. The Z06 made its mark on a race track not the quater mile track even though it does well there. There is alot more to a car then driving in a straight line.

I think it is great we all have another fast car to race. Stock for stock the Z06 and the Nissan GTR will be a good race. On the street with street tires the GTR will be hard to beat. I think that a Z06 will run it down even if the GTR gets the jump off the line and on the role Z06 will win.

But again this is all talk because it is not even out yet. Who knows how fast it really is or how many power levels it come in.

The GTR has no chance in hell against a race with a Z06, not to mention the new Vette with the LS9, rumored to be around 650+HP.

Here's why.

Nissan GTR - 480HP. Figure in at least 20% drivetrain loss due to AWD and the auto transmission. You end up with a 384WHP car weighing close to 4,000lbs.

Corvette Z06 - 505HP, SAE certified. Regularly puts down 430WHP. Weighs a total of 3,162lbs.

Its not even a race. AWD is of no benefit to the GTR when the Z06 can already hit 60MPH in 1st gear in 3.4 seconds. From a roll it would look like the GTR is going backwards, its a joke.

[Wesman]

Here's the formula for creating the styling of the Nissan GT-R:

Take a Mitsubishi Evo X, and copy the front end:

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Mitsubishi/mitsu_lancer_Evo_X_manu-08_01-800.jpg

Then combine it with a 350Z:

http://image.automotive.com/f/miscellaneous/nissan-2008-350z-near-28-000-hides-power-style-nismo/7218388+w700+cr1+re0+ar1/2007-nissan-350z-front-leftjpg.jpg

And you end up with one of the ugliest pieces of jap crap to ever grace the face of the planet:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/NissanGTRleak_1_560.jpg

[Sleeper101]

I've driven a modified 240 and I thought it was a complete piece of trash. I can't see anyone preferring to drive one of those pieces of shit over a 383 stroker Trans Am. You've got to be kidding, that shows the true ricer in you.


Dude I really Doubt you have ever driven a modified 240!:bs: So what was so modified about it?

This honestly shows what type of guy you are! I mean since your such a God and know everything there is to know about these cars a the future of the world how about letting us in?:drama:

*Ya my 383 is quick, But my turbo 240 is quicker!
*The T/A can handle but my 240 can handle better!
*The T/A attracts attention but my 240 makes attention!
*The T/A sounds good but my 240 spooled up with the turbo SCREAMING sounds better!
*The T/A can lay some rubber but my 240 can lay some pavement!:hasquint:

[Wesman]

Dude I really Doubt you have ever driven a modified 240!:bs: So what was so modified about it?

I didn't bother asking. It was a piece of shit, imo.

*Ya my 383 is quick, But my turbo 240 is quicker!
*The T/A can handle but my 240 can handle better!
*The T/A attracts attention but my 240 makes attention!
*The T/A sounds good but my 240 spooled up with the turbo SCREAMING sounds better!
*The T/A can lay some rubber but my 240 can lay some pavement!:hasquint:

You think a Nissan 240 sounds better and draws more attention than a Trans Am...yep, you're a confirmed ricerboy now.

What you don't realize is all the attention your 240 gets is negative, probably just people gawking at how distasteful and ugly your car is. I'm sure everyone loves to hear your fart can as you drive by and try to show off :ughlaugh:

[Sleeper101]

I didn't bother asking. It was a piece of shit, imo.



You think a Nissan 240 sounds better and draws more attention than a Trans Am...yep, you're a confirmed ricerboy now.

What you don't realize is all the attention your 240 gets is negative, probably just people gawking at how distasteful and ugly your car is. I'm sure everyone loves to hear your fart can as you drive by and try to show off :ughlaugh:

Confirmed you have never Driven a 240! So why comment it?

2nd have you ever heard a Rb25 engine? Hmm didnt think so!:nono:

3rd! So when are you going to come let my Fart can bend you over its knee and whoop that bare ass?

[Wesman]

Confirmed you have never Driven a 240! So why comment it?

2nd have you ever heard a Rb25 engine? Hmm didnt think so!:nono:

3rd! So when are you going to come let my Fart can bend you over its knee and whoop that bare ass?

Where do you come up with this bullshit??

You don't even make any sense. Go back to your ricer forums, you're a complete waste of space :jerkit: