just totalled a cobalt cuz it sucks

[ATCharming]

EDIT!!! here is the thread for the news article:
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1049806#post1049806

wlel... liek the title says. i was in a cobalt, goin about 55, a deer ran in front of me by like 20 feet or so (im bad with distances) and i slammed on the brakes, swerved once i let off the brakes, and could not regain control cuz i immediately lost control. in my third gen i could have gone 80 and had more control than that...

i was on a country road, and there was a field on one side and trees on the other... luckily i went towards the grass... but anyways, i went straight into the ditch and rolled 2 or 3 times.. im not sure how many cuz it all went so fast.

i was the only one in the car, and the scariest part was hearing the windshield smash. i ended up upside down in the ditch a little further up the road than where i initially hit cuz i rolled so much. rolled down (or up.. lol) the windows and crawled out. pulled out my cell and called my dad first, then an old man wlaking came running to help me, called 911, and said he was a paramedic so he helped keep me still and what not.

nothing hurt at the time... emts got there and thought i snapped my neck. i had slight pain in it that they were relaly worried about. at the hospital after all teh cat scans and what not we realized it was neck muscle damage and not bone so nothing toooooo serious...

other minor injuries like bleeding inside my arm from being pinched on sumthing :shrug: some pretty big lumps on my head, and some shoulder pain.

walked out of the hospital a couple hours later with aspirin. :lol: i shouldnt be makin jokes, but im takin this as calmly as possible.

i never liked that car anyways :spit: i told that to all the emts and they laughed so hard.

i can testify.... seat belts save lives. i could feel it holding me in my seat the whole time i was rolling and had i not been wearing one i would have been dead... no doubt about it.

think about it... in a situation where i would have died without a seatbelt, i wore one and walked out of the hospital in a couple hours with some bruising and muscle damage needing only aspirin... pretty amazing


i hope i do not have to pay for any tickets or fines... but i may... idk how much our insurance deductible is but its pretty much totalled.

honestly... the worst parts about it all are that now that i sold my car and just totalled my moms, we only got 1 car in the house, i have to pay for the car (surprise) and i missed homecoming... my girlfriend was so disappointed :date: i felt relaly bad, but what am i gonna do....



cliffnotes: i rolled my mom's cobalt, swerving for a deer and hitting a ditch. seatbelt saved my life


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[Silver Streak]

Yeah, had to drive a rental cobalt for a week.. hated every SECOND of it!! So I know what you mean. You're lucky all you got was a sore muslce.. when our van rolled.. I SHATTERED my 7th vertebra... won't heal, and I get migrains from it.. and pretty much complete memory loss before the acciudent... took me 2 weeks to accept the people that took me home were my parents.. :eek: Had to relearn spelling, friends, everything.. it sucked! So just count yourself REALLY lucky!

[ATCharming]

holy shit kitt... thats insane.

i would assume with a van ud be much safer?

the cobalt blows in so many ways... the sound systems just about the only good part about it.

[Silver Streak]

Shitty pics, but this is the van... and me after 2 weeks when I finally came out of my coma...

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n302/TheGeno/Accident1.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n302/TheGeno/accident2.jpg

[ATCharming]

wow... how long ago was that?

[Silver Streak]

'96 :(

[ATCharming]

so u were 14?

[shady milkman]

why swerve atc?

[ATCharming]

why swerve atc?

cuz cobalts suck with crash ratings and it was a big enough deer to fuck me up. i figured, why go straight into it if i KNOW it will cause an accident... why not try to swerve and have a possibility of avoiding it?

i didnt expect the suspension to suck THAT bad

[9t8z28]

I am glad you are O.K., but dude, next time, HIT THE DEER!!!!!!!! I come across deer everyday, maybe 2-3 a day running out into the road, and I have hit many! HIT THE DEER!

[9t8z28]

cuz cobalts suck with crash ratings and it was a big enough deer to fuck me up. i figured, why go straight into it if i KNOW it will cause an accident... why not try to swerve and have a possibility of avoiding it?

i didnt expect the suspension to suck THAT bad

You would have had less damage if you would have hit it.

[ATCharming]

I am glad you are O.K., but dude, next time, HIT THE DEER!!!!!!!! I come across deer everyday, maybe 2-3 a day running out into the road, and I have hit many! HIT THE DEER!

i keep hearin that... its just hard when ur in the situation to think "well its better to hit it than try to avoid it"
ya know?

i know what u mean... but i just figured i had a possibillity of avoiding it...

[Silver Streak]

Yeah I was 14... mom was driving.

[ATCharming]

Yeah I was 14... mom was driving.

ohhhh i thought u were driving

[Silver Streak]

No, if I was driving, I would have known where we were going, and not almost miss the exit and go off the road and roll... :(

[shady milkman]

cuz cobalts suck with crash ratings and it was a big enough deer to fuck me up. i figured, why go straight into it if i KNOW it will cause an accident... why not try to swerve and have a possibility of avoiding it?

i didnt expect the suspension to suck THAT bad
..because that is just the nature of cars..they will flip when you swerve hard..the cobalts aint no vette :lol:
I am glad you are O.K., but dude, next time, HIT THE DEER!!!!!!!! I come across deer everyday, maybe 2-3 a day running out into the road, and I have hit many! HIT THE DEER!

:yup: glad your ok.

[ATCharming]

it didnt flip cuz i swerved... read the post carefully lol. i hit a ditch and rolled because of that

[01RaptorTA]

You would have had less damage if you would have hit it.

I've only hit one deer in my day, but im pretty sure inside something as shitty as a slowbalt, that engine would have been in his lap, and his legs shoved somewhere underneath the seat...but thats just me.

[shady milkman]

it didnt flip cuz i swerved... read the post carefully lol. i hit a ditch and rolled because of that

yes you hit the ditch because you swerved.

[ATCharming]

yes you hit the ditch because you swerved.

:yup: u made it sound like it was swerve, flip...
it was swerve, couldnt regain control cuz the handling sucks, so i went straight into a ditch. just clearn it up

[astyles]

we are glad you are ok Alex.......i've seen bambies do some true damage,but having rolled 2 cars myself i'd do the bambie sans make jerky out of his dumb ass......lol.....again glad you are ok

[ATCharming]

yea next time i will consider hitting the deer, but maybe not i dont know... theres relaly nothin i could have done to avoid totalling my moms car.

also im glad u guys arent rippin on me for it... i imagined some ppl woul dbe making comments aboutm e being young and stupid... but i was driving home from work goin the speed limit and swerved to avoid a very large animal lol...

i know a friend that has a ginormous older f250 turbo diesel full cab, extended bed... tons and tons of pounds... he hit a horse and went backwards... totalled the whole truck. so i would imagin that a car that could fit in that truck bed would be fucked if it hit a full size deer (altho a fraction of the size of the horse, u all understand what im sayin)

[ATCharming]

thanks astyles

[Silver Streak]

Had a deer HURDLE my Camaro once... damndest thing I've ever saw... watched it clear the hood, t-tops, rear window.. land, roll.. then keep running... thankfully he was a good jumper.. just dented the license plate.. but scared the shit out of me.. so I know how you felt...

[ATCharming]

ahhhhhhahahhaha sorry but that is hillarious

[01RaptorTA]

Had a deer HURDLE my Camaro once... damndest thing I've ever saw... watched it clear the hood, t-tops, rear window.. land, roll.. then keep running... thankfully he was a good jumper.. just dented the license plate.. but scared the shit out of me.. so I know how you felt...

:eek: holy shit...i would have pulled a fuckin steve mcqueen uturn, chased that fucker down, and shot it.

[Silver Streak]

It ran into a field.. and had no gun... I was more scared at looking at my front end that I KNEW was totalled... took off the plate.. bent it back.. and I was good to go. I was going to be PISSED if he totalled my car and got up and ran away!!!

[SpeedAddict38]

thank God u r alive :yup:

[ATCharming]

thank God u r alive :yup:

thanks man... everytime i hear that i realize how true it is.

throughout the whole accident i could really tell that its amazing howm uch the seat belt helped. i woul dhave for sure been dead...

before i read about accidents but i never relaly knew what they were like so id just give the "well good thing urs till alive" comment, without relaly understanding. now i realize how lucky i (and other ppl) am/are to survive bad accidents such as this

[scooley]

If you had a fender mounted 50 cal. you coulda blown him away before you had to make the decision to mess up the car.:ar::ar::ar::ar::ar::ar:

[01RaptorTA]

If you had a fender mounted 50 cal. you coulda blown him away before you had to make the decision to mess up the car.:ar::ar::ar::ar::ar::ar:

Lol yup, you're from texas alright.

[ATCharming]

If you had a fender mounted 50 cal. you coulda blown him away before you had to make the decision to mess up the car.:ar::ar::ar::ar::ar::ar:
:
:lol: i barely had enough time to swerve or hit the brakes. i wouldnt have been able to say "oh shit" by the time i got to where it was

[9t8z28]

I've only hit one deer in my day, but im pretty sure inside something as shitty as a slowbalt, that engine would have been in his lap, and his legs shoved somewhere underneath the seat...but thats just me.

I nailed a buck at 55m.p.h. on a highway in a Cavalier, all that it did was push the rad back and fuck up the front end. No deer is gonna push the engine back! Come on, deer are around 90 or more pounds and they will not cause as much damage as you think!

[Silver Streak]

I nailed a buck at 55m.p.h. on a highway in a Cavalier, all that it did was push the rad back and fuck up the front end. No deer is gonna push the engine back! Come on, deer are around 90 or more pounds and they will not cause as much damage as you think!

90?!?!?!? Our dogs weigh that!!! In WI the deer took out TRUCKS!

[ATCharming]

deer are a couple hundred pounds

[01RaptorTA]

I nailed a buck at 55m.p.h. on a highway in a Cavalier, all that it did was push the rad back and fuck up the front end. No deer is gonna push the engine back! Come on, deer are around 90 or more pounds and they will not cause as much damage as you think!

Dude a deer weighs like 300 lbs lol...my 10 year old cousin weighs 90 lbs.

[9t8z28]

yea next time i will consider hitting the deer, but maybe not i dont know... theres relaly nothin i could have done to avoid totalling my moms car.

also im glad u guys arent rippin on me for it... i imagined some ppl woul dbe making comments aboutm e being young and stupid... but i was driving home from work goin the speed limit and swerved to avoid a very large animal lol...

i know a friend that has a ginormous older f250 turbo diesel full cab, extended bed... tons and tons of pounds... he hit a horse and went backwards... totalled the whole truck. so i would imagin that a car that could fit in that truck bed would be fucked if it hit a full size deer (altho a fraction of the size of the horse, u all understand what im sayin)

We would be rippin on you if it was a squirrel!!!!!!:yup:

[9t8z28]

deer are a couple hundred pounds

WHAT! WTF are you talking about! Full size is around 190 lbs.?

[ATCharming]

We would be rippin on you if it was a squirrel!!!!!!:yup:

:lol: :cheers:

[9t8z28]

Dude a deer weighs like 300 lbs lol...my 10 year old cousin weighs 90 lbs.

yeah, O.K.!

[Silver Streak]

WHAT! WTF are you talking about! Full size is around 190 lbs.?

I guess Deer in PA are a lot smaller than deer back home...

[9t8z28]

WHITE-TAILED DEER
Young-of-the-year:
Average weight: 80 pounds
Range: 55 - 105
Yearling and adult females:
Average weight:131
Range: 90 - 208
Yearling and adult males:
Average weight: 168
Range: 100 - 242

This is the average evwerywhere, and no, deer are not small in Pa! It is rare to find a 242 lb. deer

[astyles]

i saw a 65 mustang that took a deer head on......the engine was sitting between the front seats.....here in cali a good size buck maybe 180 lbs.....

[9t8z28]

i saw a 65 mustang that took a deer head on......the engine was sitting between the front seats.....here in cali a good size buck maybe 180 lbs.....

Umm, and how fast was he going?

[01RaptorTA]

WHITE-TAILED DEER
Young-of-the-year:
Average weight: 80 pounds
Range: 55 - 105
Yearling and adult females:
Average weight:131
Range: 90 - 208
Yearling and adult males:
Average weight: 168
Range: 100 - 242

This is the average evwerywhere, and no, deer are not small in Pa! It is rare to find a 242 lb. deer

Guess that cavvy is a tank then. The deer we hit, annihilated the front of our van. Full size 95 econoline conversion van. We were going 45-50.

[9t8z28]

Guess that cavvy is a tank then. The deer we hit, annihilated the front of our van. Full size 95 econoline conversion van. We were going 45-50.

Fiberglass hood, and metal fender, by far no tank!

Pics???

[01RaptorTA]

Nope. Even if i did, i dont have to prove anything...I dont really give a fuck if you dont believe me :D

[9t8z28]

Nope. Even if i did, i dont have to prove anything...I dont really give a fuck if you dont believe me :D

That O.K., your still full of shit

[9t8z28]

Anyway, glad you are O.K., I wouldn't want to know what it would be like to roll a car.

[01RaptorTA]

:blah: go suck a dick

[9t8z28]

:blah: go suck a dick

calm down

[01RaptorTA]

Lol i am calm, very calm. Like i said dude, i dont give a fuck ;)

[ATCharming]

Anyway, glad you are O.K., I wouldn't want to know what it would be like to roll a car.

scariest thing ive ever experienced

[blue02Z]

:eek: holy shit...i would have pulled a fuckin steve mcqueen uturn, chased that fucker down, and shot it.
why shoot it?
I nailed a buck at 55m.p.h. on a highway in a Cavalier, all that it did was push the rad back and fuck up the front end. No deer is gonna push the engine back! Come on, deer are around 90 or more pounds and they will not cause as much damage as you think!

i saw a durango hit a deer and it almost cut the car in half:eek:



thank God you are still alive Alex. some one was watching over you:yup:

[ATCharming]

thanks blue... its real nice to hear ppl say that

[KyleLs1]

HOLY Fuck man, that is the shits! Good thing you are alright.

my gf hit a deer a few yrs ago going about 65mph, didn't even have time to hit brakes... killed that fucker good!

it fucked her up pretty good tho (emotionally, not physically).

Glad to hear you are ok... it is best to have your first wreck when you are 16. Teaches you that you are not invincible and that it only takes a second and your whole world is turned upside down! no pun intended



btw in ur original post, you said your gf was disappointed that you missed homecoming. I sincerely hope that she was more concerned for your safety.

[ATCharming]

HOLY Fuck man, that is the shits! Good thing you are alright.

my gf hit a deer a few yrs ago going about 65mph, didn't even have time to hit brakes... killed that fucker good!

it fucked her up pretty good tho (emotionally, not physically).

Glad to hear you are ok... it is best to have your first wreck when you are 16. Teaches you that you are not invincible and that it only takes a second and your whole world is turned upside down!



btw in ur original post, you said your gf was disappointed that you missed homecoming. I sincerely hope that she was more concerned for your safety.


i meant... after we established that i was physically alright, she was dissappointed about me ruining the night.

im physically ok to be out of the hospital, but just in pain from muscular damage, nothing serious.

[BlueBomber]

wow that sucks man but glad ur ok. I agree with most when they say hit the deer because hitting the deer is a little more forgiving than swerving into a tree.....

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

Glad to hear your in good shape ATC! Here's a link to a crash I posted awhile back. The guy was driving a 95 Carmaro doing a bit over 90 hit a deer and it basically exploded and pieces of the deer were splattered over 3 blocks away and seeing the driver was drunk he took out 3 telephone poles. Some how he actually survived the crash, but ironically got fried when he tried getting out of the car from power wires. You never know if it's better to hit a deer or not in a car.

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60888

[01RaptorTA]

why shoot it?


You dont mess with thirdgens ;)

[Silver Streak]

You dont mess with thirdgens ;)

:yup:

[burnws6]

wow....thank god youre alive alex....holy shit....that would be scary as shit..... maybe its gods way of telling you not to do that....u know...the thing we where talkin about....or did u already do it?

[burnws6]

oh...and....any :Pics: ?

[ATCharming]

i will get pics today at the shop as long as its not inside the shop if the shops closed...

ill also go to the crash scene jsut to see if i can get any interesting pics there too

[ATCharming]

oh, and thanks everyone for the moral support. as far as the deer debate goes.... keep it going... alot of us (especially me) are sitll really unsure whether its better to hit the deer or to swerve.

[Silver Streak]

We are always told (back home) to hit the brights, hit the horn, and hit the gas...

[ATCharming]

We are always told (back home) to hit the brights, hit the horn, and hit the gas...

im not saying ur wrong, but honestly in my situation i didnt have enough time to even reach for the brights or the horn...

[Silver Streak]

im not saying ur wrong, but honestly in my situation i didnt have enough time to even reach for the brights or the horn...

Oh I know.. I didn't either... I just got lucky I had an olympic high jumper deer....

[ATCharming]

yea. YOU should go play the lotto. thats not an everyday occurance

[Silver Streak]

Na.. what the hell would I do with 200 million dollars??? I mean I LOVE bills and not knowing If they will all get paid on time.....

Wait.. no.. its because I'll be damned if the ex gets 24% of that!!! :ar::brick::uzi::villagers::rl::growl:

[Hi-Po]

Def hit the deer. Everytime.

Deer can move when you hit them, tree's dont move.

In your case, ditch's make you move, over and over. Ether way, the only way you win in those 3 options is hitting the Moveable deer.

Glad to hear your alright, next time hit the deer.

[ATCharming]

Def hit the deer. Everytime.

Deer can move when you hit them, tree's dont move.

In your case, ditch's make you move, over and over. Ether way, the only way you win in those 3 options is hitting the Moveable deer.

Glad to hear your alright, next time hit the deer.

thanks po. btw, that was the least funniest post i have EVER seen from u. now make me laugh

[Silver Streak]

Def hit the deer. Everytime.

Deer can move when you hit them, tree's dont move.

In your case, ditch's make you move, over and over. Ether way, the only way you win in those 3 options is hitting the Moveable deer.

Glad to hear your alright, next time hit the deer.

Very true.. except in our cars.. its pretty likely that it will move directly through our windshield killing us.... :(

[astyles]

Umm, and how fast was he going?

80......90 mph and no time to break

[bmyers]

i hit 3 deer in 5 months when i was a senior in high school. i hit everyone of them without swerving - i had a blazer i would have rolled with out the ditch.

i did swerve to miss one in my camaro last spring. it was early spring so the road was cold. So i passed this rice burner on the highway i was going about 80-90. a deer steps out on the shoulder of the road. so i slammed on the brakes and turned into the other lane. well i ended up doing a complete 360 and then another 180. I was really nervous about the car i had just passed hitting me. anyways i came to a stop on the side of the road in the other lane - like i had just pulled over i was so straight. awesome experience. but i got very lucky

[splitfinger09]

thanks man... everytime i hear that i realize how true it is.

throughout the whole accident i could really tell that its amazing howm uch the seat belt helped. i woul dhave for sure been dead...

before i read about accidents but i never relaly knew what they were like so id just give the "well good thing urs till alive" comment, without relaly understanding. now i realize how lucky i (and other ppl) am/are to survive bad accidents such as this

yeah man I can def testify to the fact that seatbelts save lives.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z84/splitfinger09/th_dodge_11.jpg (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z84/splitfinger09/dodge_11.jpg)

[ATCharming]

yeah man I can def testify to the fact that seatbelts save lives.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z84/splitfinger09/th_dodge_11.jpg (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z84/splitfinger09/dodge_11.jpg)

:yup: u never realize it until u experience it

[splitfinger09]

:yup: u never realize it until u experience it

tru dat, glad your ok man.

[Blitzed]

Pics or ban, And glad your ok Alex. Now take your Asprins and eat some chicken noodle soup dear

[ATCharming]

Pics or ban, And glad your ok Alex. Now take your Asprins and eat some chicken noodle soup dear

lol. well shops closed today... ill see what pics i can get tomorrow

[ATCharming]

(could a mod include that in my title please)

post #1 includes all the pictures i have of it so far.

[KyleLs1]

holy FUCK

[ATCharming]

holy FUCK

:yup:

[94z28l]

what about when you have a full grown bull elk in the middle of the highway? hit it or swerve? take a look in to how big these fucker get and i do mean FULL grown, hit one in my 94 blazer and totaled it comin home from the mountains, spun around and hit the mountain, got damn lucky it didnt roll, i'll try to dig up some pics. shitty about the cobalt being totaled tho alex

[01RaptorTA]

I remember when we went to texas with the quads, people told us stories about hitting cows. THAT would suck, i dont think there's any surviving an impact like that if you hit it head on. Like hitting a brick wall.

[ATCharming]

I remember when we went to texas with the quads, people told us stories about hitting cows. THAT would suck, i dont think there's any surviving an impact like that if you hit it head on. Like hitting a brick wall.

yea... idk if i posted this or not, but a friend of mine totaled his huge f250 full cab with ext bed from hitting a horse. the truck flew back when it hit the horse...

[scooley]

I remember when we went to texas with the quads, people told us stories about hitting cows. THAT would suck, i dont think there's any surviving an impact like that if you hit it head on. Like hitting a brick wall.

IN the 1980s my Aunt hit two grown bulls in the highway, thank god she was driving a full size Buick. Of course it totalled the car, but she walked away with very minor injuries. She said what saved her was the three bourbon and cokes she had right before the wreck, she was relaxed.:shots:

[Toyota h8r]

:yup: u made it sound like it was swerve, flip...
it was swerve, couldnt regain control cuz the handling sucks, so i went straight into a ditch. just clearn it up
ever think becase the itty bity tires on cobalts.....lack luster suspension.....???

I spun my buddies4 door LS cobalt taking an s-turn that i always take at 80 mph in my 85 trans am......BUT the 85 has uber huge sway bars(ws7) and 235mm tires.:flex:

oh and i was going 45mph when cobalt spun:spit: :giveup: :ughlaugh: :blah:



BUT ANYWAYS glad your ok ATC!

[Toyota h8r]

WHAT! WTF are you talking about! Full size is around 190 lbs.?
yah i got one of th bigest bucks out of our woods and it topped scales at 225lbs DRESSED! Thats all the guts n shit removed.....so he was like 240-260lbs.....two yrs later im stil eating deer jerky and steaks :yum: :yum: :yum:

oh and i dont care if someone takes offense.......i hunt n proud of it :usa:

[Blitzed]

Damn Alex, your lucky dude...

[Silver Streak]

I spun my buddies4 door LS cobalt taking an s-turn that i always take at 80 !

HAHAH.. I read that wrong, I thought you said LS1 Cobalt! I was like :eek: :lol:

[djvaly]

sorry to hear of both sad stories. enjoy life! you never know when the switch goes off...

take care guys!

[86 IROC-Z]

Dude, that sucks Alex, I'm glad you're alright.

On the bright side, at least you don't have a slobalt anymore. You're right about the thirdgen, they may suck but they handle like they're on rails.

[ATCharming]

well... car is officially totalled. tahnks for all the support guys... unfortunately my mom is getting a new cobalt i think. for some reason my parents think its a safe car... i think its because of the car that i spun out and they just act like im a fuckin idiot...

whatever... ill never be caught in a cobalt again. i wont drive one, and i wont let anyone in one drive me anywhere ever again.

[KyleLs1]

whatever... ill never be caught in a cobalt again. i wont drive one, and i wont let anyone in one drive me anywhere ever again.

hey good thing you got those 2 feet eh. jk

btw i don't think its the cars fault.

[ATCharming]

i think its somewhat the cars fault. like i said, if i were in my third gen i could have had more control going twice as fast

[KyleLs1]

i think its somewhat the cars fault. like i said, if i were in my third gen i could have had more control going twice as fast

maybe true, but it still isn't the cars fault. You have to know how to control the vehicle you are driving and know it's limits. It all comes with driving experience and getting into wrecks is part of gaining that experience.

Now you know that all vehicles don't handle like your f body, and you have to drive each vehicle according to it limits. Even if you were in your f body the same thing may have happened.

You never know, if someone with more driving experience was in the same vehicle, in the same situation the outcome may have been completely different, or could have been worse you never know.

Not trying to give you a hard time, i know you have been through enough... but i just don't think you should be blaming the car and you should just accept the fact that shit happens. When wildlife are on the road anything can happen regardless of vehicle handling capabilities or driver experience.


Also, about your mom getting another cobalt because they are safe cars.... by the looks of the damage to that thing, and the fact you walked away un injured i would agree that it is a pretty safe car. I can pretty much guarantee you that if you rolled your 3rd gen in the same manner, you would be hurtin alot worse.

[01RaptorTA]

Also, about your mom getting another cobalt because they are safe cars.... by the looks of the damage to that thing, and the fact you walked away un injured i would agree that it is a pretty safe car. I can pretty much guarantee you that if you rolled your 3rd gen in the same manner, you would be hurtin alot worse.

I agree. That car is fucked something fierce, and you walked away with a couple bruises. Slowbalt ftw personally...

[9t8z28]

yah i got one of th bigest bucks out of our woods and it topped scales at 225lbs DRESSED! Thats all the guts n shit removed.....so he was like 240-260lbs.....two yrs later im stil eating deer jerky and steaks :yum: :yum: :yum:

oh and i dont care if someone takes offense.......i hunt n proud of it :usa:

Yeah, you just said one of the biggest bucks not all!

Don't worry about anyone taking offense, I hunt and I am proud of it, and you should be too.

[9t8z28]

maybe true, but it still isn't the cars fault. You have to know how to control the vehicle you are driving and know it's limits. It all comes with driving experience and getting into wrecks is part of gaining that experience.

Now you know that all vehicles don't handle like your f body, and you have to drive each vehicle according to it limits. Even if you were in your f body the same thing may have happened.

You never know, if someone with more driving experience was in the same vehicle, in the same situation the outcome may have been completely different, or could have been worse you never know.

Not trying to give you a hard time, i know you have been through enough... but i just don't think you should be blaming the car and you should just accept the fact that shit happens. When wildlife are on the road anything can happen regardless of vehicle handling capabilities or driver experience.


Also, about your mom getting another cobalt because they are safe cars.... by the looks of the damage to that thing, and the fact you walked away un injured i would agree that it is a pretty safe car. I can pretty much guarantee you that if you rolled your 3rd gen in the same manner, you would be hurtin alot worse.

X2!!!