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djvaly
09-15-2007, 04:05 PM
on my way from LG, I raced vs a 2007 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 ...

his specs: 6.5L v12 640hp, 3600 lbs
mine: 6.0L v8 605hp, 3700lbs (heavy D60 bolt and amp box etc)

it was traffic on the highway, I'd say 50 to 85mph, he had me by a 1-1.5 car lengths. He jumped first then by the time we shut down he had about a car length on me... very very nice car guys!

I took pic with my cell phone camera before this... hahhaha I could not believe I am going against the big guys. it was like an enzo pulled on me by a car or so... that thing was stuck to the ground and about 2-3 inches lower than I already am. I will post pics of it in a bit...

impressive machine! but 320k price tag too :D

djvaly
09-15-2007, 05:43 PM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u118/DjValy/LamborghiniMurcielago_402ls2TA_pic4.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u118/DjValy/LamborghiniMurcielago_402ls2TA_pic3.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u118/DjValy/LamborghiniMurcielago_402ls2TA_pic2.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u118/DjValy/LamborghiniMurcielago_402ls2TA_pic1.jpg

SpeedAddict38
09-15-2007, 06:18 PM
dang your t/a is fast !.....cell phone takes good pics also....looks like my v3 razor phone

KyleLs1
09-15-2007, 06:24 PM
nice death! I wonder what the outcome would have been if you were able to open it up at higher speeds?

Mr. Luos
09-15-2007, 07:54 PM
Should have gotten him. :lol:


Is there a difference in the appearance between the normal Murcielago and the LP640?
Either way, grossly overpriced.

djvaly
09-15-2007, 08:26 PM
:dunno: I tried. I need more hp, like another 30hp like yours, then yeah. :D
you'd be neck in neck with him to 110 then his aerodynamics would kick in nicely...

I think from a dig I'd hang with him to like 60 or so then he'd take a car on me

Empatho
09-16-2007, 12:16 PM
get a 75 shot so you can use it when something like this happens

zero_proto
09-16-2007, 02:23 PM
word

Stone
09-16-2007, 02:44 PM
Sweet!!! Respactable death!

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 02:46 PM
:faint:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 03:16 PM
Sweet!!! Respactable death!

:yup: to be honest it was getting boring to race, cause for the last 4-5 months I've killed a few termi Cobras, one LT and tuned c6 z06 and other heavily modded cars... it's good to
find a good challenge every now and then on the street :seesaw:

greatwhiteZ28
09-16-2007, 04:23 PM
what do those lambos run anyways. there is a guy about 10 miles in canada from me that has one that i see all the time

Smkn_TA
09-16-2007, 04:29 PM
Nice car man, but why all the money in an ls2 and mods, then go with an auto transmission! If you had a manual you might have took his ass.

djvaly
09-16-2007, 04:29 PM
at the track? 1/4mi they should be low 11s - high 10s on DRs... 550rwhp (640hp) and 487tq stock.
I haven't seen one ever at the track though.

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 04:30 PM
Nice car man, but why all the money in an ls2 and mods, then go with an auto transmission! If you had a manual you might have took his ass.

cuz stalled auto > manual

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 04:31 PM
all lambos are 4wd correct?

djvaly
09-16-2007, 04:36 PM
Nice car man, but why all the money in an ls2 and mods, then go with an auto transmission! If you had a manual you might have took his ass.

not really. more power needed. he took the jump on me too. it's not the m6 vs a4 issue, so when you get to beat one let me know :D I think 1 car in front of me it's damn good. and for those that think I should have beat one, bull... I am 60rwhp less and managed to stay within 1 car length if we take the fact he jumped first...


they are beasts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0phtS2r0sU0

djvaly
09-16-2007, 04:41 PM
cuz stalled auto > manual

yep, all day, especially on the straight highways where we did it. :hi:

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 04:42 PM
yep, all day, especially on the straight highways where we did it. :hi:

altho, how does a stall help at higher speeds? like in 3rd gear... if your not really under ur stall speed at all, what good does it do?

djvaly
09-16-2007, 04:44 PM
the stall upto 50s, I think it locks at 60mi, but then my A4 is stage5. shift 100 times better than the stock and built to hold 600rwhp+

Smkn_TA
09-16-2007, 04:47 PM
cuz stalled auto > manual

Oh, so I guess someone should tell all the formula 1, nascar, crafstman truck series, arca, dirt track, World Rally League, and SCCA racers that they have the wrong set-up.

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 04:49 PM
Oh, so I guess someone should tell all the formula 1, nascar, crafstman truck series, arca, dirt track, World Rally League, and SCCA racers that they have the wrong set-up.

formula 1's are autos with paddle shifters

djvaly
09-16-2007, 04:52 PM
auto built up right is good for straight racing, stalled even better for track.
manuals are better for road course track.

it depends what setup you want. also if you have a manual you get better returns on the mods like 3% more than auto, but I've raced against many manual cars with 20-30 more hp than me and blew their doors in on the highway. people can't shift fast enough... :yup:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 04:53 PM
let's not turn this thread into A4 vs M6, if you wanna do so, go find so many threads on this exact subject... this is about racing a new Lambo...

djvaly
09-16-2007, 05:09 PM
Is there a difference in the appearance between the normal Murcielago and the LP640?
Either way, grossly overpriced.

too much money I agree, so are the Saleen and Enzos...etc...

about the apperance, 2 exhaust tips on regular 2006 I see, one big almost rectangular exhaust tip on new LP640... and the whole rear end trunk looks slightly different.

regular Murcielago
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c459931a.jpg

vs

2007 LP640 Murcielago
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c466880a.jpg

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 07:14 PM
No offense, but had that race lasted a little bit longer and had the driver been competent....it would have been a whole 'nother story. I know your car is fast, but those Bulls are made to run @ those speeds. That 8000rpm redline ain't hurting that Lambo either. There's 320k for a reason.

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:20 PM
I agree, even if I was packing 550rwhp as him I'd still be a bit in trouble after 110 or so when his aerodynamics kick in nicely. :yup: I think had we gone further 40-120mph he'd put 3-4 cars on me... but that's not a bad picture either considering I am 60rwhp less than him. I wish you were there to see it, it looked like a super bad ass car!

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 07:29 PM
I enjoy shutting down an entire highway as they watch over 1100 combined HP of american muscle unleash at WOT silencing every other sound for a half mile around. :yup:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:30 PM
yep. it was fun when we did that, :yup:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:33 PM
just having that super car waste his gas on me, and him getting the first jump on me made my day... he heard the 402 ls2 sound, he wanted to give it a try :lol:

turbo goes in next... :think: 600-630rwhp then I'd eat the Murci for lunch:fire:

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 07:35 PM
You aren't seriously considering a turbo....are you?

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 07:36 PM
just having that super car waste his gas on me, and him getting the first jump on me made my day... he heard the 402 ls2 sound, he wanted to give it a try :lol:

turbo goes in next... :think: 600-630rwhp then I'd eat the Murci for lunch:fire:

u? turbo? :wtf: im scared... :hide:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:36 PM
I am, transmission is stage 5 so good to like 650rwhp or more... rearend good to 800+rwhp :D
gotto do CR lowering before, but yeah that'd be in Pennsylvania, not now... buying the house next on the list... :yup:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:38 PM
if I could just find a new Viper 600hp... to measure up... I think that's a driver's race. :D
I should go on viperalley.com and callout those stooges :hide:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:41 PM
hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaha, put on the sound!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlxQB2h7JoI

2007 Viper video. "this will blow your socks off" so they say...

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 07:45 PM
hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaha, put on the sound!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlxQB2h7JoI

2007 Viper video. "this will blow your socks off" so they say...

:hifinger: :lol:

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:50 PM
:haha: I was looking on youtube.com and this shit came up :D

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:52 PM
or my other option is to sell the TA and get an LS3 in 2yrs and get a twin turbo on that as well. same results hp I think, but less weight, I think 3200 lbs and I may go M6 this time to switch it up a bit... weekend car is ok M6, I'd hate city traffic and daily M6...

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 07:53 PM
or my other option is to sell the TA and get an LS3 in 2yrs and get a twin turbo on that as well. same results hp I think, but less weight, I think 3200 lbs.

:wtcslap:

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 07:54 PM
or my other option is to sell the TA and get an LS3 in 2yrs and get a twin turbo on that as well. same results hp I think, but less weight, I think 3200 lbs.

Much better route, I like that idea.

djvaly
09-16-2007, 07:56 PM
well so far so good. I want to race more exotic cars though... it was fun :woo:

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 07:59 PM
Find the forums they hang out in and show up.

djvaly
09-16-2007, 08:07 PM
I should go bug them vipers first :D

this is nice though Audi R8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a8KXNRm_q4
:faint:

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 08:35 PM
When you find out where they'll be, let us know!

Bottesini
09-16-2007, 08:41 PM
well so far so good. I want to race more exotic cars though... it was fun :woo:

You should consider road racing then. I use to get to race against quite a few of the more exotic cars when the Porsche club would have their runnings.

ATCharming
09-16-2007, 08:45 PM
I should go bug them vipers first :D

this is nice though Audi R8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a8KXNRm_q4
:faint:

i just watched that. really cool but every time they were like "______ is a couple thousand more pounds"
i was like wtf? thats alot of weight just for brakes, auto tranny, etc. lol

took me till the end to realize they were tlaking about currency :lol: :sillyme:

KyleLs1
09-16-2007, 08:49 PM
I should go bug them vipers first :D

this is nice though Audi R8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a8KXNRm_q4
:faint:

saw one on the highway the other day.. fuckin sick!

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 08:49 PM
Silly Caucasian (correct spelling, btw)

FuhBreezeE
09-16-2007, 08:53 PM
From the Dallas Auto Show 2007
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/FuhBreezeE/DallasAutoShow0753.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/FuhBreezeE/DallasAutoShow0754.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/FuhBreezeE/DallasAutoShow0755.jpg Oops...How did this get in here? http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/FuhBreezeE/DallasAutoShow078.jpg

blackhawk01
09-16-2007, 08:59 PM
yep, all day, especially on the straight highways where we did it. :hi:

not only that..autos really arent that bad...it all depends on how you set it up for which specific power band..obviously nobody could use a manual tune set up on an auto..or use a auto tune set up on a manual.

good loss btw :) i bet it was fun

djvaly
09-16-2007, 09:03 PM
I was overwhelmed just to see the LP640 Murci in my rearview mirror, it all happened so fast it was like a dream, 4-5 sec and shutdown... I was shaking a bit :D definetely a very respectful loss :)

greatwhiteZ28
09-17-2007, 03:20 PM
god i hate seeing the new maro, caseu it makes we want to get a head start on selling

ProwlerZ
09-17-2007, 05:45 PM
The LP60 is a low 11's car, not that that's shabby, but for the price...

I got on it with a 360 Modena back at the beach one night, didn't have the bottle open though, so he was pulling me, probably 2 cars over a 60 mph span....

As they say, there'll always be something faster.... but as long as they're 100k+ exotics, I'm still content!

FuhBreezeE
09-17-2007, 07:32 PM
The LP60 is a low 11's car, not that that's shabby, but for the price...

I got on it with a 360 Modena back at the beach one night, didn't have the bottle open though, so he was pulling me, probably 2 cars over a 60 mph span....

As they say, there'll always be something faster.... but as long as they're 100k+ exotics, I'm still content!

:werd:

rajiv1998
09-18-2007, 04:41 PM
listen, i love my car to death but u cant compare the new LP640 to an ls1. So what if u can hang with him till about 115 0r 120 (wutever u trap) but after u start going depper into the tripple digits hes gonna walk all over you. I loved hearing about ur story but there is no comparison. An LS1's factory redline is what 6k 6.5k?? 8k is nothing for the lambo, in fact most of the power kicks in after 4. As far as the price goes, yes $320,000 is a lot of money. Hell u cud prolly buy a house with that. But the people who drive those cars especially ones with a 6 digit price tag want to be differant in the crowd, and by all means they are. For 320k u get much more than a car that looks fast or sounds cool, u get a piece of art rolling on wheels.

djvaly
09-18-2007, 05:04 PM
listen, i love my car to death but u cant compare the new LP640 to an ls1. So what if u can hang with him till about 115 0r 120 (wutever u trap) but after u start going depper into the tripple digits hes gonna walk all over you. I loved hearing about ur story but there is no comparison. An LS1's factory redline is what 6k 6.5k?? 8k is nothing for the lambo, in fact most of the power kicks in after 4. As far as the price goes, yes $320,000 is a lot of money. Hell u cud prolly buy a house with that. But the people who drive those cars especially ones with a 6 digit price tag want to be differant in the crowd, and by all means they are. For 320k u get much more than a car that looks fast or sounds cool, u get a piece of art rolling on wheels.

you haven't told us anything new, makes me wonder what your point is other than rehashing what was covered earlier. :blah:

Mr. Luos
09-18-2007, 07:55 PM
u get a piece of art rolling on wheels.
I have to disagree.

Most exotics look like poop to me.
Give me a C6Z06....for a fraction of the cost and similiar performance.

djvaly
09-18-2007, 07:58 PM
I second Lous, c6z06, LT H and tuned close to 500rwhp = 1/4 of the price of the other exotics in the same power band. for the buck it is one of the most affordable semi exotic car along with the new dodge viper... at the end of the day, you put gas in it, haul ass with it and exaust gas comes out of it... If I seat in a $800 leather seat or $10000 leather seat I don't care, if the rims are $2000 bucks or $15000 I don't care etc...

it's like consuming $10 dollar glass of wine vs $50... ok... whatever no difference really, there're both good.
:yup:

greatwhiteZ28
09-18-2007, 08:55 PM
why dont you ever see them in the GT races or any other kind of races? mostly porches and ferraires and stuff............

djvaly
09-18-2007, 09:00 PM
porches you do see, and c6z06 ...
http://www.world-challenge.com/


not the ferrais or lambos... they are to be kept in the garage and driven at 90mph on the highway so they don't crash them... ;)

Krazy351w
09-19-2007, 05:47 AM
formula 1's are autos with paddle shifters

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: fyi they are semi auto. the driver uses the paddels to switch gears but the actual clutching and gear changing is electro-hydrolicaly operated. One exception is when the car is taking off or coming to a stop. then the driver must use a lever behind the wheel to manually operate the clutch.

btw ot trying to change subject but indy and formla on are my life and it is a pet peeve of mine where someone get things messed up. as for the subject at had i wish i could been there to see the guy in he lambo when you didnt just drop right away. He was probably scared

djvaly
09-19-2007, 06:35 AM
as for the subject at had i wish i could been there to see the guy in he lambo when you didnt just drop right away. He was probably scared

yeah good point. I was excited that he was slowly gaining, he was probably shocked :D

Krazy351w
09-19-2007, 06:41 AM
yeah good point. I was excited that he was slowly gaining, he was probably shocked :D

haha well bro think about it guys like him go out and pay 300k for something that is sopposed to be superiour, but he is broke now and has no room for upgrades uless he really is a rich mother. then come along a guy like us was was smart and took 20k of our 300k and put some of the ramaing 280k into the car and save the rest. then we keep up with mr bigshot who thinks his shit is the best. Yea you gave him a real wake up call. once again congrats, and i only wish i coulda been there to see his face when your 20k car gave his a run. but i do agree past 100 hes definatly got you but still got your 280k left :woot: