View Full Version : Getting the SS tuned tonight. What to expect?
JLSain
11-01-2005, 11:38 AM
Having the SS tuned tonight. What should I expect to see them "do" to the car? What does a tune consist of?
foff667
11-01-2005, 11:43 AM
a questioneer, a few dyno pulls, give you the keys back along with a dynosheet showing before/after results then to ask for your payment...thats what you should expect in most cases. Anything over and above from most pro tuners is a good thing.
JLSain
11-01-2005, 11:52 AM
a questioneer, a few dyno pulls, give you the keys back along with a dynosheet showing before/after results then to ask for your payment...thats what you should expect in most cases. Anything over and above from most pro tuners is a good thing.
questioneer? The people doing this are close friends of mine. Please don't respond if you can't explain in depth what a "tune" does. Thanks.
Zboner
11-01-2005, 11:55 AM
it should change the air fuel ratios resulting in more HP and if you have an auto expect them to change your shift points
BIG D's SS
11-01-2005, 11:57 AM
They are going to set fans temp, delete codes that you have, change gear ratio, delete cags, egr, air pump, o2 sensors. Play with air/fuel ratio. That is pretty much the highlights. A lot depends on what you have done to the car. Raise rev limiter, and shift points if its an auto.
JLSain
11-01-2005, 12:00 PM
ive got an m6
BIG D's SS
11-01-2005, 12:02 PM
Don't worry about them changing the shift points then.
foff667
11-01-2005, 12:19 PM
questioneer? The people doing this are close friends of mine. Please don't respond if you can't explain in depth what a "tune" does. Thanks.
Did you mention they were friends of yours in your post? I mustve missed that...I assumed you were going to a dyno tuner. If not I have no clue what your close friends will change, what equipement they use or have available to them or how they are going to tune you. Maybe being close friends of yours you should ask them? :hmm:
foff667
11-01-2005, 12:24 PM
btw so nobody thinks im a complete douche I had my 98 Z w/ heads/cam & other mods origonally tuned by a reputable tuner shop here in NJ & that was the procedure step for step in my process.
Zboner
11-01-2005, 12:28 PM
yep that is the correct way to tune it
foff667
11-01-2005, 12:33 PM
Since I tune on the side the way I do it is
Have my customer fill out a detailed questioneer about their mods/car/info
Look over their car to make sure everything is in order
Hook up my scanner & scan for codes & d/l what codes are being thrown
Put the car on ramps to install my w/b o2 sensor
D/L the tune currently in the car(hopefully the stock one)
Modify that tune to throw it into speed density mode to tune the Ve table(fairly long process to go into so you might wanna search VE tuning)
Do a few before runs through 3rd gear for a good baseline.
Then start the VE tuning process which usually takes 1-2 hrs of logging & modifying the tune.
Once thats done I'll plug the maf back in and scale the maf to work with the newly reformed VE table.
Once my final fueling is worked out I'll go ahead and adjust timing & or shift points if necessary which in your case isnt.
Once Im happy with the ve, maf, spark, shift points, idle, part throttle I'll make a few after passes in 3rd gear & compare the timestamps on both from xxmph to xxmph and hopefully see a difference in my favor.
Thats about the time where Im done & will graciously ask for my $ lol
hopefully thats detailed enough, but again different strokes for different folks so you also might ask them since there are too many ways to tune a car.
lata
Bill
BIG D's SS
11-01-2005, 12:36 PM
When I had mine Dyno tuned by GMMG they did all of that but did all the dyno pulls in 4th gear since that is the 1 to 1 gear ratio. Took about 1 1/2 to 2 hours for the total process.
Zboner
11-01-2005, 12:37 PM
expect to pick up 20-30 hp that is untapped.
foff667
11-01-2005, 12:42 PM
expect to pick up 20-30 hp that is untapped.
don't expect that much...all cars are different so depending on mods one car may pick up 5hp some 40hp there are too many variables to say Yeah expect xx amount of hp some gain nothing some gain alot.
BIG D's SS
11-01-2005, 12:52 PM
I only gained 3 hp and 10 ft lbs of tq. But it carries it sooner and longer acrosse the board. Made a huge difference. Main thing on my car is it straightened out the codes and air/fuel ratio. I did cam, headers, ory pipe, and gears all right about the same time. My car didn't know what was going one when all that happened. Shes runnin great now.
JLSain
11-01-2005, 01:30 PM
btw so nobody thinks im a complete douche I had my 98 Z w/ heads/cam & other mods origonally tuned by a reputable tuner shop here in NJ & that was the procedure step for step in my process.
:lol: It's cool dude.
JLSain
11-01-2005, 01:32 PM
Thanks guys for the info. I'll put up the dyno sheet tonight when I get back
Zboner
11-01-2005, 01:33 PM
nice cool
foff667
11-01-2005, 01:42 PM
Thanks guys for the info. I'll put up the dyno sheet tonight when I get back
good luck :D
98LSGUN
11-01-2005, 02:24 PM
How much should something like this cost???
foff667
11-01-2005, 02:28 PM
most dyno tunes cost $450-$550...personally I know people that charge $150-250 and do a better job & get better times then the shops that tune on dynos. So i guess you could say $150 and up :)
98LSGUN
11-01-2005, 02:37 PM
most dyno tunes cost $450-$550...personally I know people that charge $150-250 and do a better job & get better times then the shops that tune on dynos. So i guess you could say $150 and up :)
Do you know anyone in Atlanta?
BIG D's SS
11-01-2005, 02:47 PM
Rp performance or GMMG, but GMMG won't do it unless you know them.
98LSGUN
11-01-2005, 02:55 PM
Are the hand helds not worth the money?
foff667
11-01-2005, 03:18 PM
Are the hand helds not worth the money?
I would say no...most handhelds cost within $100 of a full tuning program ie hptuners or tunercat and only can do a small portion of what full tuning programs can.
BIG D's SS
11-01-2005, 03:46 PM
A dyno tune normally cost about $600 and a tune normally costs about $300-$350. I know that is what RP Motorsports cost. Normally after the first time they will only charge you dyno time. I got lucky and got mine Dyno tuned for $300. That is a deal.
JLSain
11-01-2005, 11:11 PM
Here's the results! Considering the AFR was almost PERFECT to begin with, he managed to push out 23HP. I'm happy. My car feels like a totally different car. My best at the strip is 8.572 @ 85 mph. I wonder if I can hit 8.3's this thursday??
http://www.pcmforless.com/images/dynosheets/jsain.jpg
GatorSS
11-02-2005, 12:21 AM
Nice job! :thumbup::woo:
Ed Blown Vert
11-02-2005, 09:10 AM
Here's the results! Considering the AFR was almost PERFECT to begin with, he managed to push out 23HP. I'm happy. My car feels like a totally different car. My best at the strip is 8.572 @ 85 mph. I wonder if I can hit 8.3's this thursday??
http://www.pcmforless.com/images/dynosheets/jsain.jpg
Nice increase. :woo:
Was this with just a tune? The AF line is a little hard to read, did he lean it out a little? Increase timing?
How much should something like this cost???
Iwould also like to know.
motor city steel in south east michigan told me they get between $500 to 700
I said no way in HELL.
BIG D's SS
11-02-2005, 10:19 AM
A dyno tune normally cost about $600 and a tune normally costs about $300-$350. I know that is what RP Motorsports cost. Normally after the first time they will only charge you dyno time. I got lucky and got mine Dyno tuned for $300. That is a deal.
This is what it normally runs in Ga that I have found.
ninobrn99
11-02-2005, 10:39 AM
i cant see the graph..what are the numbers? mods? and a/f?
Zboner
11-02-2005, 11:28 AM
told yea about 20-30 hp
BIG D's SS
11-02-2005, 11:34 AM
:yourock: Zboner
Zboner
11-02-2005, 11:40 AM
that smilie is fucking great!
BIG D's SS
11-02-2005, 12:12 PM
I only used it for U man.
Zboner
11-02-2005, 12:31 PM
awww thanks dave.
motrhed400
11-07-2005, 07:12 PM
On a 98 bird formula with flowmaster and K&N What can i expect to see on a dyno?
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