Whats a good start out car?

[TripleBlackTA]

Im having trouble finding a car that would be a good one to start working on to be fast.

If you could give me some ideas that would be great

Thanks

[ATCharming]

camaro

[ATCharming]

whats ur budget? first of all, how much are u ready to spend buying the car itself?

[SAGGIN]

UHHHHHHH I don't know a LS1 F-body.:itsok:

[TripleBlackTA]

my budget is around 6-7 grand

[ATCharming]

is ur budget 6-7 grand for just buying the car? or is that buying and modding

[TripleBlackTA]

well thats all i have for now, ill be getting a job soon so ill be making alittle

What do you think would be a good idea, Car only or car then mod with my my budget?

[TripleBlackTA]

i was kinda looking toward a 2002 firebird formula WS6

would that be a good one???

[ramrod]

my budget is around 6-7 grand

Save your money and invest young! (Play with these money pit toys we all own, later in your future. Trust me ... Regal T-type, and do your homework! :firedevil:

[ATCharming]

if ur budget is about 6-7 grand for just buying the car, u can find an alright ls1 camaro or trans am for that price. if i were u, i would not bother searching for an SS or ws6, cuz they are always more expensive and are only a tad faster. (approximately 10hp give or take a few)

after u buy the car, u want to make sure its safe for the power ur gonna throw at it, so SFC's (sub frame connectors) are a must. a 12 bolt rearend could very possibly be necessary also. the 10 bolt can break from the stock power of these cars, so once u start increasing power, it is only a matter of time it will go.

as for mods, the basics u should start out with are things like an air lid. they can be bought for like $70 and net u a decent amount of hp for the price.
next, go with full exhaust.
if your car is an automatic, get a stall/torque convertor for a couple hundred dollars. the stall speed is preference, but around 3k is reccomended with ls1's.
gears are also a good, somewhat cheap mod. if u have manual, 4.10s are the way to go (although ull lose lots of gas mileage), and for an auto: 3.73's. the gears and stall will not increase horsepower, but they WILL make you faster. guaranteed.

if ur drag racing this, traction is essential. a good set of DR's will let u launch at a much higher rpm, thus cutting off a decent amount of time on ur 1/4

[ATCharming]

i was kinda looking toward a 2002 firebird formula WS6

would that be a good one???

ws6's are great cars. but like i said, ur paying for the ws6 package, which is worth it for the looks and the resale value. but the performance difference is not worth the price i.m.o.

[ATCharming]

Save your money and invest young! (Play with these money pit toys we all own, later in your future. Trust me ... Regal T-type, and do your homework! :firedevil:

i doubt he has patience. i dont. i completely understand where hes coming from

[ATCharming]

well thats all i have for now, ill be getting a job soon so ill be making alittle

What do you think would be a good idea, Car only or car then mod with my my budget?

if 6 to 7 is all you have, just get the car for now. mod later. but on my list of things, you can get a few of the cheap mods right away like the lid, stall, and gears.

[TripleBlackTA]

alright thanks man

[TripleBlackTA]

i dont know much about cars and ive never been out to a strip , but i want to start

[ATCharming]

i dont know much about cars and ive never been out to a strip , but i want to start

manual or auto

[TripleBlackTA]

what does ls1 mean?

[TripleBlackTA]

right now ive got a 99 chrysler 300m but i want to get a new car like some type of camaro like you said or a firebird

[ATCharming]

what does ls1 mean?

nothing. its just the engine in the 98-02 v8 fbodies

[TripleBlackTA]

o ok lol ive been wondering that for awhile but didnt want to sound stupid which i probly just did

[ramrod]

i dont know much about cars and ive never been out to a strip , but i want to start

Go to the drag racing section and read up !

[ATCharming]

right now ive got a 99 chrysler 300m but i want to get a new car like some type of camaro like you said or a firebird

fyi... a firebird has a v6. you want a firebird formula, a trans am, or a camaro z28.

and again, a trans am ws6 and a camaro SS are the same thing, just a slightly different look and about 10 more hp.


and about the mods, if ur gonna drag race, a stall is one of the best mods for u. also the tires...

if u arent going to go to a track yet, just get the simple stuff: air lid, new gears.

[TripleBlackTA]

my uncles brother owns a dealership and my his brother knows a few places to get cars , so i could probly get a discount

so ill ask him some prices on
-Firebird Formula
-trans am
or a camaro z28( newer ones or older cuz the old ones were really expensive)

[TripleBlackTA]

if u arent going to go to a track yet, just get the simple stuff: air lid, new gears.

i want to get to the tracks right after i get the car and a few mods done

[ATCharming]

my uncles brother owns a dealership and my his brother knows a few places to get cars , so i could probly get a discount

so ill ask him some prices on
-Firebird Formula
-trans am
or a camaro z28( newer ones or older cuz the old ones were really expensive)

yea well ur gonna want an ls1, so 98+ is ideal.
although, despite what everyone says, lt1's are great motors. so u could go 93+.

OR, if u like lt1's, u can get a c4 corvette for pretty cheap

[TripleBlackTA]

are camaros generally faster

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

If you look hard enough you can get a high mileage Z or T/A for the 6-7k that you have...they'll probably be in the 98-99 years. The LT1 is also a great engine and is in your price range a little more...the 97's have the same interior as the LS1's too.

[ATCharming]

are camaros generally faster

than what? c4 corvettes? or trans ams?

here, idk if this is the question ur asking but this should help: (considering 1998-2002)

camaro v6 = firebird
camaro z28 = trans am/firebird formula (trans am and formulas are the same thing, just different looks basically)
camaro ss = trans am ws6

no performance differences whatsoever in the compared cars

[TripleBlackTA]

on carsoup there is a

93 Firebird Form/trans am/g
5.7L V8 OHV MPI Auto

Description: This is a 1993 Formula Firebird. The car has the LT1 engine, stock 10.5:1 compression 275 horsepower. A few simple mods have been done like a cold air intake, throttle body coolant bypass, underdrive pulley, cat delete and turbo muffler. Should be around 300 hp range now. All wheel disc brakes, Has a 3.23 Posi rear end. Performance suspension package. New ball joints and tie rods along with alignment last fall. Brand new GM optispark distributor, platinum plugs and wires, also recently replaced intake gasket. Factory tinted wondows. Car runs great, shifts tight and handles superb. Gets pretty good mileage to, 20 around town up to 24-25 on the highway. sony xplod CD player. Well maintained car.

$4,200

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

are camaros generally faster

No...unless you're talking about a stripper Z(no options) then yes...but the same can be said for a formula.

[TripleBlackTA]

this is another one i was looking at on carsoup

1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula TTops
Engine: 3.4 8 Cyl.
Transmission: Manual 8 Speed

Corvette LT1 Motor 6spd a real sleeper and a real BLAST to DriveCorvette LT1 Motor 6spd a real sleeper and a BLAST to DriveAlloy Wheels, Anti-Lock Brakes, Bucket Seats, Cruise Control, Driver Air Bag, DVD Player, Keyless Entry, Leather Interior, Passenger Air Bag, Power Door Locks, Power Mirrors, Power Windows, Rear Window Defroster, Tilt Wheel, Tinted Glass

$6,995

[ATCharming]

on carsoup there is a

93 Firebird Form/trans am/g
5.7L V8 OHV MPI Auto

Description: This is a 1993 Formula Firebird. The car has the LT1 engine, stock 10.5:1 compression 275 horsepower. A few simple mods have been done like a cold air intake, throttle body coolant bypass, underdrive pulley, cat delete and turbo muffler. Should be around 300 hp range now. All wheel disc brakes, Has a 3.23 Posi rear end. Performance suspension package. New ball joints and tie rods along with alignment last fall. Brand new GM optispark distributor, platinum plugs and wires, also recently replaced intake gasket. Factory tinted wondows. Car runs great, shifts tight and handles superb. Gets pretty good mileage to, 20 around town up to 24-25 on the highway. sony xplod CD player. Well maintained car.

$4,200

honestly that sounds like a great deal. damn, id buy that if i had the money

this is another one i was looking at on carsoup

1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula TTops
Engine: 3.4 8 Cyl.
Transmission: Manual 8 Speed

Corvette LT1 Motor 6spd a real sleeper and a real BLAST to DriveCorvette LT1 Motor 6spd a real sleeper and a BLAST to DriveAlloy Wheels, Anti-Lock Brakes, Bucket Seats, Cruise Control, Driver Air Bag, DVD Player, Keyless Entry, Leather Interior, Passenger Air Bag, Power Door Locks, Power Mirrors, Power Windows, Rear Window Defroster, Tilt Wheel, Tinted Glass

$6,995

theres no such thing as a 3.4 v8 haha. its a 5.7 lt1 v8 just like the first one. also a great deal, but obviously the other ones cheaper, so it depends on how well maintained each was taken car of

[TripleBlackTA]

thast what it said lol 3.4 8cyl

theres only one pic on the first one so im not sure exactly what condtion its in

but would that be a good one to look into

[TripleBlackTA]

i could possibly get that second one for just about the same price as the first one from my uncle

[ATCharming]

i could possibly get that second one for just about the same price as the first one from my uncle

whichever one u like better. both are great deals.

[TripleBlackTA]

honestly i kinda like the 96 better but to tell you the truth ive never driven a manual before

[ATCharming]

yea i just remembered that 96's had like a 10 hp bump

[ATCharming]

ull get used to manual

[TripleBlackTA]

so when i get a hold on my uncle i should see how much it is for a 96 firebird formula ttop?

or should i see what i can get for my budget?

i wont wreck anything tho if it takes a while to get used to will i?

[ATCharming]

so when i get a hold on my uncle i should see how much it is for a 96 firebird formula ttop?

or should i see what i can get for my budget?

i wont wreck anything tho if it takes a while to get used to will i?

hmm... be careful in parking lots and heavy traffic situations while learning manual. just try to avoid them until your comfortable. it only took me driving my gfs car about 8 times to be very comfortable and trust myself
although, i have a history with dirtbikes so im used to the clutch-shift thing.

umm... about the two cars, whichever u like man. both sound like great deals

[TripleBlackTA]

i think i might see what i can get for about 5gs and see what they think and my G-pa cuz they know a bit about cars and im sure ill get a good deal

but ill let you know if i get one

Thanks for all the help dude really apperciate it... im off to bed got 2 hockey games tomorrow peace

[ATCharming]

i think i might see what i can get for about 5gs and see what they think and my G-pa cuz they know a bit about cars and im sure ill get a good deal

but ill let you know if i get one

Thanks for all the help dude really apperciate it... im off to bed got 2 hockey games tomorrow peace

no prob. i was a noob to all this stuff a lil while ago. im still a noob to lots of it, but im learning everyday. this site has basically taught me EVERYTHING i know about cars.