1" Drop With Shocks [Archive] - LS1 Performance Information

morocotopo

10-23-2005, 10:56 PM

earlier This Week I Saw A Thread About Lowering Your Car, And Someone Replied That It Is Better If You Lower Your Car With Shocks, And Not Springs. If Anyone Know Something About Please Write Back. Is It Better, Can You Get More Than 1" Drop, Just What Are The Benefits And What You Need To Get It Done???

blast7

10-25-2005, 06:25 PM

I was under the impression that only your springs lower the car.

BlackHawk T/A

10-26-2005, 10:55 AM

You have to get the Koni adjustables, they are able to do it.

Bowtie Guy

10-28-2005, 10:50 AM

Talk to Sam at stranoparts.com about it. You can lower the car 3/4 to 1 inch with just shocks (Koni adjustable) because of the way you mount them. Pricey but worth it!

WS6ICK

11-03-2005, 06:32 PM

I lowered my 2000 Trans AM, WS-6, LS1 1.5-2.0 inches with Eibach Sportline Springs and I used the orignal factory shocks. The look is and ride is awsome.

noblesramair

11-03-2005, 07:13 PM

I lowered my 2000 Trans AM, WS-6, LS1 1.5-2.0 inches with Eibach Sportline Springs and I used the orignal factory shocks. The look is and ride is awsome.

boy that may cause trouble.

Yep, talk to sam! I talked to him about a week ago and he DEFINITLY knows what hes talking about! here is his website, his number is there.

http://www.stranoparts.com/index.php

He told me about this mod also. I think im going to go with it. The koni front struts have an adjustable perch and you can do the hose mod on the rear springs both give about 3/4 to 1 inch drop. The koni's single adjustable are expensive roughly 700-800 for a set but they are the best, well except the double adjustable but those are over 1000 for a set!

MadSeason

11-03-2005, 09:09 PM

I lowered my 2000 Trans AM, WS-6, LS1 1.5-2.0 inches with Eibach Sportline Springs and I used the orignal factory shocks. The look is and ride is awsome.

Those springs should not be used with the factory shocks, you're putting to much stress on them and could cause a major accident. Depending on what you've done with your exhaust you could end up ripping it up if you bottom out on something since you don't have the dampening or rebound of aftermarket shocks too.

nufkts

11-04-2005, 08:15 AM

I lowered my 2000 Trans AM, WS-6, LS1 1.5-2.0 inches with Eibach Sportline Springs and I used the orignal factory shocks. The look is and ride is awsome.
The ride may be awesome now, but in no amount of time you are going to be teribbly dissapointed in your suspensoin if you dont not replace the shocks as well. I speak from experience here. I lowered my 2001 ws6 and did not change shocks, good ride for about 5,000 miles then bouncy as hell, so I changed shocks and struts to go with it being lowered and still bouncy. It aint worth sacraficing a quality ride to look cool... As I write this my ws6 is in the shop getting the factory springs put back on the front, I did the rear myself yesterday. This is just my personal opinion. But I would for sure change out your shocks if you dont give it a few miles and you will be like damn this ride sux.....

chaman

11-04-2005, 08:30 AM

Bowtie Guy

11-04-2005, 09:28 AM

noblesramair

11-04-2005, 10:12 AM

Im liking this! I thought you could only lower a car with springs. I might get involved in this. Do they come with instructions as to the proper settings to maximize the drop? cant they be adjusted once they are mounted?

you can lower the front of the car with the koni's and in the back you do the hose mod. Im pretty sure that the koni's are the only strut out there that allows you to do this. Im sure they come with instructions of some sort. If you look around some im sure you will find something on this mod. Yes the koni's have a shock that can be adjusted while its on the car they cost like 800.00. They also sell ones that you have to take off and adjust then put it back on they are made like this because they sell a little cheaper for like 700.00. But me personally id rather be able to adjust them on the car. Talk to sam at

www.stranoparts.com

about it he told me about them he knows a lot more about them then i do.

chaman

11-04-2005, 10:19 AM

What is this obsession with drop? Its about handling! If you want drop, talk to any lowrider! Their cars handle like caca! Our cars are about improving the handling. That requires matched shocks, springs,sway bars, track bars, etc. If you put in lower (shorter) springs, you have to have a shock that is engineered for the suspension travel of the shorter springs. I wont even get into spring rates! Dont go cheapo! you will end up wasting time and money. Save up and do it right!

Well errhh, yeah....Very useful facts that Im sure 99% of people here know:think:

BTW I want a slight drop and preserve good handling...I just asked a question about the Koni's, any other mod to my suspension is beyond what I just asked:tired:

chaman

11-04-2005, 10:20 AM

you can lower the front of the car with the koni's and in the back you do the hose mod. Im pretty sure that the koni's are the only strut out there that allows you to do this. Im sure they come with instructions of some sort. If you look around some im sure you will find something on this mod. Yes the koni's have a shock that can be adjusted while its on the car they cost like 800.00. They also sell ones that you have to take off and adjust then put it back on they are made like this because they sell a little cheaper for like 700.00. But me personally id rather be able to adjust them on the car. Talk to sam at

www.stranoparts.com

about it he told me about them he knows a lot more about them then i do.

Thanks noblesramair!:yup:

Bowtie Guy

11-04-2005, 10:30 AM

Sorry,Chaman--wasnt trying to insult your intelligence---just trying to help.

noblesramair

11-04-2005, 10:31 AM

Thanks noblesramair!

no problem, any time!

chaman

11-04-2005, 11:10 AM

Sorry,Chaman--wasnt trying to insult your intelligence---just trying to help.
No prob dude!:) !!!

RAWPWR3

11-04-2005, 07:04 PM

Would there be a problem with putting the pro kit with the factory shocks as well? The pro kit doesnt drop it as much as the sportlines right?

MadSeason

11-04-2005, 07:20 PM

:drama:

Would there be a problem with putting the pro kit with the factory shocks as well? The pro kit doesnt drop it as much as the sportlines right?

RAWPWR3

11-04-2005, 07:22 PM

What the fuck does that mean, im just asking a question.

MadSeason

11-04-2005, 07:43 PM

It means you didn't read the whole thread. We already answered what happens when you want to use aftermarket springs with factory shocks

RAWPWR3

11-04-2005, 08:12 PM

No sir, i did read the whole thread, but i thought that that particular problem only occured when using the sportlines cause they are lower. I apologize.

MadSeason

11-04-2005, 08:17 PM

:usa:Don't worry about it, just be smart and be safe on the road.

RAWPWR3

11-04-2005, 08:21 PM

Thank you, i will.

SOMSS

11-05-2005, 05:29 AM

I made the mistake of lowering my car with springs without changing shocks, bad choice. I replaced my stock shocks with Bilstein HD's, not bad but they wore out prematurely. Now I have on order Ground Control CoilOvers matched with SLP revalved Bilstein's. I can lower the car to my specifications and have single rate spring instead of the progressive rate springs currently offered by most spring manufacturers. I would go no higher than a 400lb spring in front and a 150lb spring in the rear.

nufkts

11-05-2005, 10:27 AM

Would there be a problem with putting the pro kit with the factory shocks as well? The pro kit doesnt drop it as much as the sportlines right?
Yes there would be a problem. the factory shocks are not meant to be lowered. Think about it you drop your car 1.5 to 2 inches what has just happened to your shock???? I will tell you they are already 1.5 to 2 inches into there dampening travel meaning you basically do not have shocks on your car anymore. All I can say is that if you guys want you car to look cool then drop it by all means. If youy want your ride nice and comfortable then I would not lower it, once again this is all my personal opionon based on having spent 700+ dollars to look cool. BY the way I used the pro kit to drop my car.
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