stock quarter mile times?...

[2000pontiac6]

I have a 2000 Firebird and want to find out what it can do in the 1/4 mile stock. I've searched all over the web and only come up with V8 results.

What I want to do is be able to eventually keep up my friends 2004 WRX thats supposed to do it in 14.4 stock. I know its a bit far from that but I plan on doing more mods and what to see around how close I am to start.


SO does anyone know stock 1/4 mile times for the 2000 V6 3.8 firebird??

[BIG D's SS]

:think:

[Black34v6]

from what i understand (limited) of the 3.8 -- its supposed to run from a 15.8 to a 15.2 stock. depending on options installed (weight...like A/C, power stuff)...

you are gonna have to do a couple of mods to make it run with a WRX. headers / exhaust / intake come to mind. maybe some gears or if you have a auto you can do a better torque converter... posi if you dont have it will help a little.

[dreaded_hope]

What gears you have in your car greatly affect roughly about what times you'd run. Is your car auto or manual?

[2000pontiac6]

What gears you have in your car greatly affect roughly about what times you'd run. Is your car auto or manual?


Auto.. I hope to get a stall converter over winter

[dreaded_hope]

Check your door codes. If you have a GU6 option, you have 3.42's with a limited slip differential and, depending on your driving, you should be able to pull off low 15 sec times. 15.2 sounds about right. However, if you have GU4, you have open 3.08's and will run considerably slower, 15.6-15.8ish if your a good driver. If you have 3.08's like I have in my bird, I'd advise that you swap out your gears and get an LSD before you try a converter. That way you get your power to both wheels, with much better traction. However, if you have 3.42's you're set.

[2000pontiac6]

I just looked and it has the GU6 :woot2:

[dreaded_hope]

That means your car is equipped with the v6 performance package. That gives you a better steering ratio, dual outlet exhaust, and 3.42 gears with a limited slip. I'd say, start modding you've got a good start already.

[2000pontiac6]

That means your car is equipped with the v6 performance package. That gives you a better steering ratio, dual outlet exhaust, and 3.42 gears with a limited slip. I'd say, start modding you've got a good start already.

but wouldn't that mean i should have w68 appearance package too? Also... before I put on the Magnaflow I had single outlet exhaust :think:

[dreaded_hope]

Nope, the performance package is a Y87 package. The W68 package was just an appearance package. They are both seperate options. And I'm not sure why you have single outlet exhaust, perhaps the previous owner? The only way you can get those gears was with the Y87 package on the 6.

[quicky06]

would you have to replace the entire rear end to upgrade to a lsd?

if not where can i find what i need to do it

[dreaded_hope]

would you have to replace the entire rear end to upgrade to a lsd?

if not where can i find what i need to do it

Nope, you just have to get the set of gears that you want and buy a limited slip differential, like an auburn, or zexel torsion. Of course lots of people just swap out the entire rear end from a Z or TA to get disc brakes as well.

[quicky06]

Nope, you just have to get the set of gears that you want and buy a limited slip differential, like an auburn, or zexel torsion. Of course lots of people just swap out the entire rear end from a Z or TA to get disc brakes as well.


well i already have 4 whell discs so thats not a problem to me

[Plumberguy]

I had a 98 v6 camaro and I did a lot of mods. I had an intake, cold air mod, bellow, headers, no cats, 3 inch exhaust custom, all lower control arms, strut tower brace, panhard rod. 275/45/17 all the way around, 4:10 gears with an aburn posi out of an SS, Electronic spark booster and 75 shot of Nos. With all of this I was able to keep up with Stock Z28's. There is fun to be had with a 6 but you will always want to go faster after you get a taste. And all that means is V8.

[7camaro7]

I have an LS1 look on my Camaro, but I'm planning on doing suspension mods and saving the rest of the performance cash on LS1. I do know of a few FAST 3800's though. I know of one hitting like 10's. I can hardly believe it!

[quicky06]

I have an LS1 look on my Camaro, but I'm planning on doing suspension mods and saving the rest of the performance cash on LS1. I do know of a few FAST 3800's though. I know of one hitting like 10's. I can hardly believe it!


but they probly have 1 seat no radio an a completly rebuilt engine

[7camaro7]

I believe he has at least 2 seats and definitely a rebuilt engine with turbo and all, don't remember about radio and ac

[dreaded_hope]

10's? I've heard of 3.8 fbodies in the 11's, not in the 10's though, that's impressive! Wow.

[7camaro7]

my bad, I think he's still in the 11's... just looked again, his goal is 10.99sec but he does have >456rhp

[12secondv6]

:rotfl: That would be viper.... he has the rwhp and rwtq... and his combo is very impressive... but no good times!

See sig ;)

Look into LSD and a converter.

That will really wake the car up.... then little things such as intake/ exhaust :)

[7camaro7]

Check your door codes. If you have a GU6 option, you have 3.42's with a limited slip differential and, depending on your driving, you should be able to pull off low 15 sec times. 15.2 sounds about right. However, if you have GU4, you have open 3.08's and will run considerably slower, 15.6-15.8ish if your a good driver. If you have 3.08's like I have in my bird, I'd advise that you swap out your gears and get an LSD before you try a converter. That way you get your power to both wheels, with much better traction. However, if you have 3.42's you're set.

I have GU6 too:haha: However, I didn't begin with dual outlet exhaust either, I upgraded to it. I don't know about the steering ratio or anything else though.

So which gears for our cars will give us the best acceleration and top end? I'd like the one close to the middle of the two but slightly more on the accelaration side.

[PaganEgyptian]

hmmm, 3.42 LSD, I would be hitting the exhaust shop for a low restriction setup. From the stories I have read, it seems a 15.8 for 3.08, 15.5 1/4 is very common for 3.23 owners and 15.1 for 3.42 owners both with M5 transmissions. A4's usually run about .3 slower stock. Just my 2 cents of info. -Tim

[7camaro7]

thanks man! mine is auto, I'd love to make my engine strong and some how some way turn it into an Manual 6speed. Is that possible to put a built 6spd on 3.8?

Oh, yea I'm pretty good with manual, this is why I want to go this way. My girl has an '00 stang GT 5spd and I've had the jump on a vette 6spd on take off a couple times, but then they usually just ball off and leave my ass:haha: I still need more practice though.

[PaganEgyptian]

I was considering a T-56 swap myself, but I dont see the benefit of 6th gear as it would take your car 1500RPM at 65mph. A 99+ Worldclass T-5 is almost bulletproof due to brass syncronizers, and it bolts right up. I just dont need that tall of a gear for my car, so I ruled out a T-56. I can give pointers and suggestions to help improve performance and numbers. The Secret is gettign the power to the wheels, and that requires a great clutch and hydralics.-Tim

[7camaro7]

so should I make a built A4 or a built M5?
I like manual a little better. Just letting you know.

[PaganEgyptian]

If you like a manual better. Best thing is to find a T-5 out of a 2000 or newer F-Body at a salvage yard. Partially for lower miles, and secondly for the worldclass setup.

It will be a direct bolt up. You will have to have the PCM programmed *sound familiar?*
for a manual transmission.
you can probably get the pedal and linkage from the same car along with the hydralics components.
Not as expensive as have the A4 built. -Tim

[7camaro7]

how much would you expect to pay for the 5spd and installation and reprogram?