So two imports want to race me....

[GottaHaveLS1]

Two kids that live near my home town have talked to me recently about their "hot cars". My friend has a VR6 swap in his jetta and he says since it's so light that he will keep up with me. he said hes got close to 200hp and 200 ft-lbs. I laughed when he asked me if i can beat a stock 4.6L mustang, cuz he said he's dead even with them lol.
Another kid i know has a 2003 Maxima 6 speed. His friends claim that he will destroy me and they also believed that since this 3.5L V6 can do 150 mph in 5th, that it will continue to climb to 187mph in 6th!!!!! I told both of them i wont race unless theres a lot of money involved. God, I can't wait to get my baby back on the road and smoke those bastards!:nana:

sorry it's not a kill yet, but it will be soon enough!:yup:

[tnanmyta]

I wish I could find easy money like that. Good luck just dont totally f&*k it up and you'll show em your tail lights.

Actually you could probably do a pretty sick burnout, hookup after you hit 3rd, and still work em.

[silver2002Z]

definetily get some money ....otherwise it would be a BIG waste of gas

[ss~zoso~ss]

yea you should have no problem, the two ricers should race themselves that'd be a good race

[EE1983]

Clearly these people know nothing about cars or racing

[GottaHaveLS1]

Clearly these people know nothing about cars or racing

haha, I know. The guy with the Maxima is the worst! the F430 probably tops out around 190. This kid probably doesn't even know what overdrive is
:newbie: /crazy drug addict retard (i went to high school with him b4 he dropped out lol)

[EE1983]

haha, I know. The guy with the Maxima is the worst! the F430 probably tops out around 190. This kid probably doesn't even know what overdrive is
:newbie: /crazy drug addict retard (i went to high school with him b4 he dropped out lol)

I would seriously tell those kids they are morons. Tell them to actually read and learn about things before speaking about them to avoid looking ignorant and moronic

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

:lmao: This is the funniest thread I've read all day! Go make some money. This proves there is still a ricer problem!!!

[GottaHaveLS1]

:lmao: This is the funniest thread I've read all day! Go make some money. This proves there is still a ricer problem!!!

I'd love to get some extra cash. It would be the first time my car has made me money instead of eating premium gas lol. Unfortunately there still is a ricer problem and it's only been getting worse since GM stopped f-body production.:ahh: :cuss: :cuss:

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I'd love to get some extra cash. It would be the first time my car has made me money instead of eating premium gas lol. Unfortunately there still is a ricer problem and it's only been getting worse since GM stopped f-body production.:ahh: :cuss: :cuss:

There's another thread that was saying there's less ricers. I don't believe it.

[Wesman]

Its not even going to be a race. We're talking buslenghts here, a VR6 Jetta and a freakin Nissan Maxima?? What a joke. Kick their asses and take their money.

[JHayesLS1]

There's another thread that was saying there's less ricers. I don't believe it.

As long as Wal-mart sells the cans, and Honda builds the Vtech, there will be rice.

[sfletch2000]

I was stating out here in so cal there is far less ricers than there was 4-6 years ago. There use to be at lest one or two at every light. Now i sometimes go a few days without seeing one. Those things were everywhere after fast and the furious came out and about the next 3 yrs after that and then they slowly started fading.

[Raptor_WS6]

maybe there in Bakersfield, but here in the valley and LA they are evrywhere

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

They are still farting up Wisconsin like crazy!

[sfletch2000]

Thats probably true there's a large asain population in LA, here in bako not so much

[GottaHaveLS1]

They are still farting up Wisconsin like crazy!

hahaha lol. in my hometown the few we have stick out like a KKK leader at a black frat house, but some of the neighboring towns are infected with them. I don't know what's happenening to this country. The music industry is terrible aside from a select few and people are driving around all these retarded cars thinkin there fast.
How did we go from 69 454 chevelles cruisin around blastin Led Zeppelin to 91 Integra's with a cardboard wing and fart can thumpin around with subs and raps music?:wtf:

[Badbird]

definately thousands of burbles and NOS fueled 10 second 4 bangers here in NW Florida. my favorite one i have seen is a civic hatch fully kitted out with upper and lower rear spoilers and an extremely homosexual roof scoop. i put a camera in my car now so when i see it again i will take a pic and post it.

[MaxPlusTen]

Two kids that live near my home town have talked to me recently about their "hot cars". My friend has a VR6 swap in his jetta and he says since it's so light that he will keep up with me. he said hes got close to 200hp and 200 ft-lbs. I laughed when he asked me if i can beat a stock 4.6L mustang, cuz he said he's dead even with them lol.
Another kid i know has a 2003 Maxima 6 speed. His friends claim that he will destroy me and they also believed that since this 3.5L V6 can do 150 mph in 5th, that it will continue to climb to 187mph in 6th!!!!! I told both of them i wont race unless theres a lot of money involved. God, I can't wait to get my baby back on the road and smoke those bastards!:nana:

sorry it's not a kill yet, but it will be soon enough!:yup:


those arent friends... those are ricers lol

[hutch1999]

sounds like my GTP buddy that thought he could hang with me till 130, race them for money

[ls1blackbeauty98]

Two kids that live near my home town have talked to me recently about their "hot cars". My friend has a VR6 swap in his jetta and he says since it's so light that he will keep up with me. he said hes got close to 200hp and 200 ft-lbs. I laughed when he asked me if i can beat a stock 4.6L mustang, cuz he said he's dead even with them lol.
Another kid i know has a 2003 Maxima 6 speed. His friends claim that he will destroy me and they also believed that since this 3.5L V6 can do 150 mph in 5th, that it will continue to climb to 187mph in 6th!!!!! I told both of them i wont race unless theres a lot of money involved. God, I can't wait to get my baby back on the road and smoke those bastards!:nana:

sorry it's not a kill yet, but it will be soon enough!:yup:



sounds like fast n the furious wanna bes...kill em
make sure u get a video, it will make it more fun for us haha :)

[TRY ME GT]

hahaha lol. in my hometown the few we have stick out like a KKK leader at a black frat house, but some of the neighboring towns are infected with them. I don't know what's happenening to this country. The music industry is terrible aside from a select few and people are driving around all these retarded cars thinkin there fast.
How did we go from 69 454 chevelles cruisin around blastin Led Zeppelin to 91 Integra's with a cardboard wing and fart can thumpin around with subs and raps music?:wtf:

BWAHAHAHA!!!!! that is SOOOOO true bro! Well put.

[Raoul-Duke]

Two kids that live near my home town have talked to me recently about their "hot cars". My friend has a VR6 swap in his jetta and he says since it's so light that he will keep up with me. he said hes got close to 200hp and 200 ft-lbs. I laughed when he asked me if i can beat a stock 4.6L mustang, cuz he said he's dead even with them lol.
Another kid i know has a 2003 Maxima 6 speed. His friends claim that he will destroy me and they also believed that since this 3.5L V6 can do 150 mph in 5th, that it will continue to climb to 187mph in 6th!!!!! I told both of them i wont race unless theres a lot of money involved. God, I can't wait to get my baby back on the road and smoke those bastards!:nana:

sorry it's not a kill yet, but it will be soon enough!:yup:

i would love to be in your position,lol..kill those fuckers,lol

[Raoul-Duke]

69 454 chevelles cruisin around blastin Led Zeppelin

thats my heaven!

[GottaHaveLS1]

i would love to be in your position,lol..kill those fuckers,lol

Hopefully soon enough. The weathers been cold and rainy lately and I wouldn't feel right getting the car on the road just to get it all dirty n shit. Hopefully next weekend I can rake in some cash :firedevil:

[intheclouds1977]

Can't wait for the true kill story!

You can handle the weight of a passenger. Film it too!!!

[GottaHaveLS1]

Can't wait for the true kill story!

You can handle the weight of a passenger. Film it too!!!

Hell yea man, i can't wait to smoke these fools. I'll definitely get it on film.

[REDBEAST]

People really believe our cars slow. There is new guy at work who swears up and down that his friends honda s2000 would destroy a corvette. A C6 corvette. Were talking about a stock s2000.

[Raoul-Duke]

People really believe our cars slow. There is new guy at work who swears up and down that his friends honda s2000 would destroy a corvette. A C6 corvette. Were talking about a stock s2000.

i know, people talk bout typical "gt owners" and "ricers" which i agree...but the worst of the worst, i swear are s2k owners...they think their cars are friggin ferrari's are sumtin i swear

[EE1983]

i know, people talk bout typical "gt owners" and "ricers" which i agree...but the worst of the worst, i swear are s2k owners...they think their cars are friggin ferrari's are sumtin i swear


Haha I was just going to say that. Ive met a couple S2000 kids that thought those things were the holy grail of imports. I mean... comeone, it runs 14s stock and my lawn mower has more torque. I never understood the hype about them. The only thing non-Honda about them is they're RWD. Other than that, they suck lol

[Raoul-Duke]

Haha I was just going to say that. Ive met a couple S2000 kids that thought those things were the holy grail of imports. I mean... comeone, it runs 14s stock and my lawn mower has more torque. I never understood the hype about them. The only thing non-Honda about them is they're RWD. Other than that, they suck lol

i know, its like there is a invisible mandatory brainwashing when u buy one, lol...awhile back, this one guy has one stock, hes always talking to my buddy with a 01 m6 ws6 like "soo when we gonna race??" all confident and laughing like hes drivin a c6 z06 or sumtin... we just laugh and are like, "soo how much torque u got again",lol...but it just goes in one ear and out the other, i swear s2k owners are like zombies

[EE1983]

i know, its like there is a invisible mandatory brainwashing when u buy one, lol...awhile back, this one guy has one stock, hes always talking to my buddy with a 01 m6 ws6 like "soo when we gonna race??" all confident and laughing like hes drivin a c6 z06 or sumtin... we just laugh and are like, "soo how much torque u got again",lol...but it just goes in one ear and out the other, i swear s2k owners are like zombies

They greatly underestimate how much torque means, and I dont mean at 9000rpm.

[Raoul-Duke]

They greatly underestimate how much torque means, and I dont mean at 9000rpm.

yeah from what i understand, there kinda stout from a roll with i-vtech, hondata, and supporting mods

[Wesman]

They greatly underestimate how much torque means, and I dont mean at 9000rpm.

You really aren't one to be talking about low end torque there, EE.

[EE1983]

You really aren't one to be talking about low end torque there, EE.


I said torque in general. S2000s make like 136ft/lbs MAX. That is junk.

Maybe I should be talking about torque since I have 386ft/lbs on tap at 3600-3700rpm. In fact, I have more torque than I do horsepower.

[Raoul-Duke]

You really aren't one to be talking about low end torque there, EE.

I said torque in general. S2000s make like 136ft/lbs MAX. That is junk.

Maybe I should be talking about torque since I have 386ft/lbs on tap at 3600-3700rpm. In fact, I have more torque than I do horsepower.

i love u guys,lol:chuckles:

[MikeSomething]

I said torque in general. S2000s make like 136ft/lbs MAX. That is junk.

Maybe I should be talking about torque since I have 386ft/lbs on tap at 3600-3700rpm. In fact, I have more torque than I do horsepower.
:::Cough cough "Raceway Park" cough Cough::: :thumbup:

[BLKCLOUD]

Torque is overrated. Till you multiply it by rpm, that is. But of course, we call that horsepower. :)

Properly geared and driven, and at the same weight, a 300 HP car that only makes 200 lb/ft of torque will beat a 200 HP car that makes 300 lb/ft.

[REDBEAST]

I still get the thumbs up look from a few people sometimes. But I always get those your car is ''old and low tech'' look from people whos cars are new and performing 0-60 and 1/4 times similar to us. They don't realize or remember we've been performing 0-60 in the low 5sec range and 1/4 in the low 13s since 1998. 9 years ago. They don't know jack about the LS1.

[EE1983]

I still get the thumbs up look from a few people sometimes. But I always get those your car is ''old and low tech'' look from people whos cars are new and performing 0-60 and 1/4 times similar to us. They don't realize or remember we've been performing 0-60 in the low 5sec range and 1/4 in the low 13s since 1998. 9 years ago. They don't know jack about the LS1.

The only thing really "low-tech" about any Fbod is they dont have navigation and things like that. What did most cars under 35k in the late 90s, early 2000s have that were so high tech? The last 3 years is where some actual high tech things have really moved themselves into most production cars, mostly drivetrain and electronic related. A couple of the new Audi's and such have direct injection which is pretty cool, but thats all I can really think of right now.

[Wesman]

I said torque in general. S2000s make like 136ft/lbs MAX. That is junk.

Maybe I should be talking about torque since I have 386ft/lbs on tap at 3600-3700rpm. In fact, I have more torque than I do horsepower.

Unfortunately for you, your engine is no better than a Honda in terms of low end power and torque. Meaning in the everyday driveability range of 1000RPM to 3000RPM. Your engine has nothing until the turbo fully spools up, at which time it makes the numbers you are claiming. Below that range its like a 2.0L N/A 4 cylinder.

[EE1983]

Unfortunately for you, your engine is no better than a Honda in terms of low end power and torque. Meaning in the everyday driveability range of 1000RPM to 3000RPM. Your engine has nothing until the turbo fully spools up, at which time it makes the numbers you are claiming. Below that range its like a 2.0L N/A 4 cylinder.

I cruise at around 3000rpm just about 80% of the time. When I hit the gas, there is power. End of story. Stop trying so hard, you always lose. Oh and stop going off topic to try and in some way bash an import, its getting old.

[Wesman]

I cruise at around 3000rpm just about 80% of the time. When I hit the gas, there is power. End of story. Stop trying so hard, you always lose.


Wow, thats ridiculous. Why would anyone want to cruise around at 3,000RPM just to make sure you have enough power to get out of your own way in a 35K "performance" car??

I always lose?? :umm:

Here you are making fun of Hondas for not having any low end, yet you need to cruise around at 3,000RPM to make any useable power/torque. Pot calling kettle black.

[EE1983]

Wow, thats ridiculous. Why would anyone want to cruise around at 3,000RPM just to make sure you have enough power to get out of your own way in a 35K "performance" car??

I always lose?? :umm:

Here you are making fun of Hondas for not having any low end, yet you need to cruise around at 3,000RPM to make any useable power/torque. Pot calling kettle black.


HAHAHA. Who would want to cruise at 3000rpm? I think your stuck in the old ages where you think cruising at 1500rpm is necessary. Well I guess it is when you're redline is 6300rpm. Mine is at 7900. Cruising at 3000rpm is not a big deal. Ive already explained this and my gas mileage is just fine crusing at that RPM.

Yes you always lose since you bring up pointless concepts like this, which are always almost compeltely wrong. Just stop posting about these things already, youre not convincing anyone.

[EE1983]

Just stop replying, you started going way off topic about this and you are ruining the thread.

[Wesman]

HAHAHA. Who would want to cruise at 3000rpm? I think your stuck in the old ages where you think cruising at 1500rpm is necessary. Well I guess it is when you're redline is 6300rpm. Mine is at 7900. Cruising at 3000rpm is not a big deal. Ive already explained this and my gas mileage is just fine crusing at that RPM.

Yes you always lose since you bring up pointless concepts like this, which are always almost compeltely wrong. Just stop posting about these things already, youre not convincing anyone.

Yep, I'm stuck in the dark ages where people drive V8's that actually have low end power. Where a motor has enough balls to cruise around at 1500RPM without falling flat on its face. Where performance engines sound like thunder instead of angry bees.

We're on LS1.com, I don't need to convince anyone. If I didn't they wouldn't already be here in the first place. You're not/ End of story, stop ruining the thread.

[EE1983]

We're on LS1.com, I don't need to convince anyone. If I didn't they wouldn't already be here in the first place. You're not/ End of story, stop ruining the thread.

Um, I was having a convo about torque to another member and how S2000s have none... ANYWHERE, youre the one who chimed in and startd your holy grail argument about your nifty low end torque. THAT IS OFF TOPIC. If you just stayed in your cave and STFU, we wouldnt be having this non-sensical conversation that you continually bring up in every thread. Im aware what forum we are on and I wasnt even talking to you. Thats the end of the story.

[BLKCLOUD]

Oh, I don't know....the S2000 has more torque at 8000 rpm than pretty much anything else here. :D

And I agree that what rpm you are turning down the highway isn't really an issue - so long as the motor is built for the powerband (or 'cruising band') that it is operating in. For example....I used to cruise down that highway at ~2800 rpm in a 4V 4.6 all day long. Still got ~25 mpg driving ~70 mph.

It's all about where the engine works best....for either performance, economy, or both.

[Wesman]

Um, I was having a convo about torque to another member and how S2000s have none... ANYWHERE, youre the one who chimed in and startd your holy grail argument about your nifty low end torque. THAT IS OFF TOPIC. If you just stayed in your cave and STFU, we wouldnt be having this non-sensical conversation that you continually bring up in every thread. Im aware what forum we are on and I wasnt even talking to you. Thats the end of the story.


I merely pointed out the irony in you making fun of Hondas for having no torque.

As usual, you get all defensive about it, and an arguement ensues. If you would just admit that its true instead of trying to defend your car to death as usual, there wouldn't have been an issue.

[EE1983]

I merely pointed out the irony in you making fun of Hondas for having no torque.

As usual, you get all defensive about it, and an arguement ensues. If you would just admit that its true instead of trying to defend your car to death as usual, there wouldn't have been an issue.

There was no irony since the relative conversation regarding torque had nothing to do with "low-end" torque. You just saw a chance to make a comment that was of course negative.

[Street Lethal]

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:Popcorn:

[98T/Aformula]

LOL this has just gotten retarted lol

[sharptransam]

Yeah, there aren't any ricers really here. the ones that are look all busted up because the roads suck. I had one guy begging to race me, and my ws6 was almost stock. I smoked him twice and he 'blew a coil' even though he finished the race. I think he came to a realization though. :itsok:

[GottaHaveLS1]

I got my car back on the road today and I've heard around town from several people that said this Maxima has nitrous and pcm. maybe other small bolt ons too, but i'm not sure. I don't think a stock Maxima could handle a big enough shot to take me but they are lighter. Looks like i'm just gonna have to race him:usa:

[EE1983]

I got my car back on the road today and I've heard around town from several people that said this Maxima has nitrous and pcm. maybe other small bolt ons too, but i'm not sure. I don't think a stock Maxima could handle a big enough shot to take me but they are lighter. Looks like i'm just gonna have to race him:usa:

Actually that Maxima should be negligibly lighter than your car. They are not light. Also, Id be somewhat skeptical if he has nitrous and a PCM. If he has lets say a 100shot which he very well could since its a 3.5L, he could be putting down around 340whp+. Just something to think about.

[GottaHaveLS1]

Actually that Maxima should be negligibly lighter than your car. They are not light. Also, Id be somewhat skeptical if he has nitrous and a PCM. If he has lets say a 100shot which he very well could since its a 3.5L, he could be putting down around 340whp+. Just something to think about.

Yea, I think they are 100-200 lbs lighter. not a big deal. lets just hope his shot isn't that big. My friend road in the maxima and the kid went to 140 on some street, but my friend said it wasn't as fast as my car. I don't know if he used nitrous in the ride though. Stock LS1's could probably take a 100 shot... but i'm no expert. I would think that a stock 3.5L couldn't take that much. I mean, the motor and drivetrain is stock (as far as I know) and it is a family sedan lol.
I looked up specs. 03 maxima has 265 hp, probably 220fwhp plus say 15whp if he has boltons and maybe 100whp for pcm and nitrous. so its really up in the air cuz i don't know what size his shot is.

[EE1983]

Yea, I think they are 100-200 lbs lighter. not a big deal. lets just hope his shot isn't that big. My friend road in the maxima and the kid went to 140 on some street, but my friend said it wasn't as fast as my car. I don't know if he used nitrous in the ride though. Stock LS1's could probably take a 100 shot... but i'm no expert. I would think that a stock 3.5L couldn't take that much. I mean, the motor and drivetrain is stock (as far as I know) and it is a family sedan lol.
I looked up specs. 03 maxima has 265 hp, probably 220fwhp plus say 15whp if he has boltons and maybe 100whp for pcm and nitrous. so its really up in the air cuz i don't know what size his shot is.

Yeah its going to come down to what size shot he has. However, you are M6 and have some little mods so overall even if he did have a 100shot, it'd still be close. If he doesnt, you should definitely get him.

[BLKCLOUD]

Don't know what year Maxima you're talking about, but as an example and for reference, a 2000 Maxima SE is listed at 3199 lbs curb weight. Same year GLE is 3294 lbs.

[EE1983]

Don't know what year Maxima you're talking about, but as an example and for reference, a 2000 Maxima SE is listed at 3199 lbs curb weight. Same year GLE is 3294 lbs.

I was thinking new Maxima (2004+) which is around 3400+

[GottaHaveLS1]

its a 2003 and weighs around 3200lbs

[BLKCLOUD]

3233 to 3289 depending upon model. Listed curb weight.

[EE1983]

Yeah thats just a slight advantage, nothing major at all.

[stevenm357]

Hurry up and crush these morons i wanna see the vid :nana:

[stevenm357]

Maxima in a 6 spd is pretty rare. A friends old man special ordered one. the clutch went out and 3 dealerships swore that they never made such a car!

[secondgearscratch]

is everyone really arguing about whether or not the OP will beat a sprayed maxima? let me make this simple for everyone, the maxima doesnt have a pcm or nitrous. those are the typical ricer terms used to falsely pedestal their car. if youre even considering the fact that its true you are more ridiculous than i thought. a pcm?

"yeah man thats a bithchin car, whats your mods".

"a sweet fuckin pcm dog". "its gettin atleast 500 to the front wheels, plus my NAWS".

hmmm. you have a trans am. the launch and the roll is your friend.
my mom has a maxima. i could go on for a few pages with reasons why you would beat her in every scenario. but why. torque is your friend.

[BLKCLOUD]

If the car had a manual, then it was a 6-speed (and it was available, though I agree that it is likely rather rare).

As for N2O and how much power they add....I would suggest it varies from car to car, and combo to combo. For example, a 100 shot of juice on a mostly-stock LS1 will often add more than 100 RWHP.

[sfletch2000]

"yeah man thats a bithchin car, whats your mods".

"a sweet fuckin pcm dog". "its gettin atleast 500 to the front wheels, plus my NAWS".

I'm still laughing after reading that, so acurate to what they say in real life

[GottaHaveLS1]

Well the Maxima does have a 6 speed and he said he had a "chip" not "pcm", that was my mistake. Several people around town says he has nitrous, if he does, i'm not very worried at all. and if he doesn't lol, i dont think it will be a race. i'll probably race him next weekend and get it on tape.

BTW, i know our cars can take 100 shot on a stock motor (at least for a little while), but i doubt a maxima could take such a big shot without mods.

[LS1_TA_2002]

Um, I was having a convo about torque to another member and how S2000s have none... ANYWHERE

:Ot: Kills thread.

[ImpalaSSpeed96]

How bout an update???:whistle:

[secondgearscratch]

How bout an update???:whistle:

do you REALLY care to know if an f body beat a maxima?

[ImpalaSSpeed96]

do you REALLY care to know if an f body beat a maxima?

4 pages.... fock yea..... BS postings are ghey....

[4tun8]

do you REALLY care to know if an f body beat a maxima?

After all this build up? You're damn right I care.

[TRY ME GT]

I want to know whats up too. By the way. I have a funny story that kinda fits this thread. to make a long story short there is a bunch of kids where I work that think this civic is fast as hell. He wants to race me real bad. Its still NA and doesnt even have NOS. hahaha! He said he beats terminators! hahaha! Im gonna ask him to race next time I see him.

[GottaHaveLS1]

4 pages.... fock yea..... BS postings are ghey....

it rained all weekend where I live. no traction...at least for me, the maxima probably can't brake it loose lol.

[silverbullit1972]

ricers are all over FRESNO (559)

[cam02ss]

This is off topic but there is a kid around town where I am with a 92 Nissan Sentra SE-R ,Garret t-25 turbo @17 psi that runs 12.164 @ 112.85 mph.290whp/340wtq

lol it's kinda funny.

[EE1983]

This is off topic but there is a kid around town where I am with a 92 Nissan Sentra SE-R ,Garret t-25 turbo @17 psi that runs 12.164 @ 112.85 mph.290whp/340wtq

lol it's kinda funny.


Thats awesome. I have a 94 Sentra as my beater and man is that thing slow lol. I wish there was an SE-R around for sale. I have the GXE... 90whp :(

[GottaHaveLS1]

This is off topic but there is a kid around town where I am with a 92 Nissan Sentra SE-R ,Garret t-25 turbo @17 psi that runs 12.164 @ 112.85 mph.290whp/340wtq

lol it's kinda funny.

That's a really good time for that much power. those things must be light.

[JHayesLS1]

I respect the SE-R's and Spec-V's. With a turbo set up be afraid.

[4tun8]

My buddy has a VQ-35 motor (from a 350z) in his sentra ser- spec v haha.

It ran like 12.7 but the motor is stock.

[GottaHaveLS1]

I respect the SE-R's and Spec-V's. With a turbo set up be afraid.

I don't lol. my friends 92 3000gt (non vr4) beat one no problem. i only respect FAST cars, so if its turboed and "fast" then i'll like it.

[GottaHaveLS1]

My buddy has a VQ-35 motor (from a 350z) in his sentra ser- spec v haha.

It ran like 12.7 but the motor is stock.

so the sentra must be lighter than the 350Z cuz those are high 13 cars.

[EE1983]

so the sentra must be lighter than the 350Z cuz those are high 13 cars.


Sentra is a couple hundred pounds lighter.

[secondgearscratch]

I respect the SE-R's and Spec-V's. With a turbo set up be afraid.

dont be afraid of anything front wheel drive.

i would only be concerned with an awd turbo car.
i can compensate for the launch with my torque all through the power band as opposed to a turbocharged cars lack of torque before boost. they will have the launch, get used to it.

fwd on the other hand, even if they pull of the launch will wheel hop so badly and torque steer that you should hole shot easy and rip through the gears with your foot planted. there are so many things that have to go into making a fwd car truly fast that i will never be afraid to race them, turbo'd or otherwise.

remember, just because a car is turbocharged doesnt make it some power freak. size plays a big roll as well as boost, fuel, and spark. there is no reason not to race or be afraid of any car. anything can happen.

[JHayesLS1]

I used to be like oh man nothing can touch a GS-T...then my friend got the STI...now his car is like the fastest...until I get my WS6. I got 3 grand put asided right now thats going to be for mods only. Im talking DR's to headers, to ORY, to exhaust system, lid, depending on the year of it LS6 intake, line locks, oh Im going to bring the pain.

[cam02ss]

That's a really good time for that much power. those things must be light.

yea, it's light. he also has next to no turbo lag. he raced my friends firehawk from a roll on the highway (which is also a 12.xx car) and was right next to us the whole time.

[cam02ss]

remember, just because a car is turbocharged doesnt make it some power freak. size plays a big roll as well as boost, fuel, and spark. there is no reason not to race or be afraid of any car. anything can happen.



And then there's the small %age out there that you should be afraid of.

[GottaHaveLS1]

I used to be like oh man nothing can touch a GS-T...then my friend got the STI...now his car is like the fastest...until I get my WS6. I got 3 grand put asided right now thats going to be for mods only. Im talking DR's to headers, to ORY, to exhaust system, lid, depending on the year of it LS6 intake, line locks, oh Im going to bring the pain.

you don't know if u have the ls6 intake or not?

[GottaHaveLS1]

And then there's the small %age out there that you should be afraid of.

yep, its not smart to say since its fwd, it wont be fast or faster than you. thats just arrogant and stupid.

[cam02ss]

yep, its not smart to say since its fwd, it wont be fast or faster than you. thats just arrogant and stupid.


yup +1. That or you obviously must be new and not been exposed to too much running around on the streets yet. Some of the best lessons come unexpectadly lol

[GottaHaveLS1]

yup +1. That or you obviously must be new and not been exposed to too much running around on the streets yet. Some of the best lessons come unexpectadly lol

haha, yea and i've only been in several street races... never lost to fwd but its definitely not impossible. any car can be made fast.
now when u talk down fwd, ur trashing the grand prix gtp. my friend had one with pully, intake, etc. they're def. ballsy and could be made faster than a stock ls1 without too much work.

[secondgearscratch]

And then there's the small %age out there that you should be afraid of.

this is bitch talk. man up. if you get beat, so what. does that make your dick shrink or something? if i had an opportunity to race a z06 i would, im not afraid, i know it would put miles on me. but just because i know that doesnt turn me off to racing one. it would be a nice experience. what if he missed a shift and i pulled him?

anything can happen. why be afraid of something you cant predict the outcome to.

no offense to anyone, but this logic seems rather pussified.

[stevenm357]

Totally. Shit happens... the guy might be a frikin idiot driving the better car. I once put about 300 yards between myself and a WS6 driving a 2.4L manual grand am. in the twisties.... that shouldn't ever happen... then the stupid dick goes to pass me and granny shifts the car i never laughed so hard while watching tail lights in my life.

so when you gonna race these imports man!??!?!?!?!

[JHayesLS1]

you don't know if u have the ls6 intake or not?

Na I mean if I buy a 98-00 I will buy the intake, if its 01-02 I wont need to.

[intheclouds1977]

Who cares if you loose to FWD, you'll look cool with your rear wheel drive peel out after the loss and doing some drifting for him without using your e-brake!

Grand Prix going FWD is dorky...who wants torque steer, honestly. I may loose to a GTP or other FWD someday, but I sure never want to own one.

When are we gonna see this video!!?!?!?

[secondgearscratch]

i know the consensus of the car nation, but my experience with alot of different vehicles has shown me that the notion that fwd handles better is IMO, crap. i never feel as safe driving fwd cars as i do with rear wheel. it is much easier to compensate for understeer by kicking the tail out than hoping to god you dont go too quickly into the turn like with fwd. the distribution of weight is terrible in fwd, and to have the front wheels steering and driving makes no sense to me really.

this is only my opinion.

[GottaHaveLS1]

DUDE, i'm just saying that because a car is front wheel drive doesn't mean you will always beat it. thats the impression i got from ur previous posts. I've seen videos of 600hp civics, they exist. i'm just saying dont get cocky like that.

Vids coming soon. i'm at school right now... gotta wait for the weekend.

[BLKCLOUD]

In dry conditions, FWD has no advantages over RWD. It is in slippery conditions that all that weight over the front end provides the advantage over RWD - in normal driving situations, for most normal drivers.

I personally don't care for FWD either - but I'm not blind to its advantages.

[EE1983]

In dry conditions, FWD has no advantages over RWD. It is in slippery conditions that all that weight over the front end provides the advantage over RWD - in normal driving situations, for most normal drivers.

I personally don't care for FWD either - but I'm not blind to its advantages.

FWD is awesome for high roll racing, thats it.