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kahliee
03-16-2007, 09:03 PM
i have 3200 stall torque converter and i usualy start in 1st gear then i shift my way up until almost red line. thats from light to light of course or on a straight away. i was wondering if i was slowly but surly damaging my trany oh and by the way my machanic put sum type of valve in my trany so it wouldnt lock up in 3rd and 4th gear. i think it went sumthing like that. dose any one kno what it is?

juiced99ws6
03-19-2007, 04:33 PM
dont shift manually, you arent better at shifting than the computer.

nhraformula
03-19-2007, 04:53 PM
dont shift manually, you arent better at shifting than the computer.

was going to say the same thing

ss~zoso~ss
03-19-2007, 04:54 PM
i believe its worse for the tranny if you shift it manually

BlackLT1Z28
03-19-2007, 05:51 PM
The computer will kick down and upshift when it needs to anyways. Manual shifting makes you slower, and kinda defeats the purpose of an auto trans anyways.

AKIRA
03-19-2007, 06:17 PM
Hmm. When I had my 89 formula I manually shifted the 700r4. Might be different with the newer ones.

SpeedAddict38
03-19-2007, 06:25 PM
Its Fun To Shift Manual !

Mr. Luos
03-19-2007, 06:28 PM
Its Fun To Shift Manual !
It is fun to cut a check for a new tranny??

Let the computer and tranny do their jobs. :yup:

SpeedAddict38
03-19-2007, 07:00 PM
It is fun to cut a check for a new tranny??

Let the computer and tranny do their jobs. :yup:

I am sure it would not be...then again hot roddiing shortens all parts life

Mr. Luos
03-19-2007, 07:01 PM
Very true.
But why shorten them twice as fast?

SpeedAddict38
03-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Very true.
But why shorten them twice as fast?

bad habit i guess...every sports car i have owned i have done it

Mr. Luos
03-19-2007, 07:05 PM
I can understand the fun factor.
But letting the car make the shifts will allow it to be quicker.

SpeedAddict38
03-19-2007, 07:09 PM
I can understand the fun factor.
But letting the car make the shifts will allow it to be quicker.

i always thought doing it manaul was faster hummmm learn something new every day...whats the purpose of being able to shift manual then ??? when i was a teen and i drove fast in curves i would always shift manual

nhraformula
03-19-2007, 08:07 PM
if you want to shift manual, get a stick.
a person cannot outshift the ecu.

kahliee
03-19-2007, 08:11 PM
so if i dont shift it manualy then what gear do i start in? and do i rev the stall all the way to 3200? my trany goes 1,2 d,od

Mr. Luos
03-19-2007, 08:14 PM
Drive, or 3rd for the strip.

kahliee
03-19-2007, 08:25 PM
when i start it in 3rd it hits red line pretty fast. is that normal?

juiced99ws6
03-19-2007, 09:01 PM
what do you mean it hits the redline pretty fast. starting in 3rd should be the exact same as starting in D except you take your overdrive gear out of the equation. your 1st and 2nd gears will not be affected.

by rev up your stall I am assuming you mean footbrake it?? I footbrake mine to just before the breakin point for the tires. I have a 3200 stall as well and I footbrake mine to 3000 as soon as the tree lights up and then I give her hell

nhraformula
03-20-2007, 06:02 AM
best results at the track with my stall is when i just floor it.

jmhvenom
03-20-2007, 06:28 AM
This thread is hilarious. Why don't all you guys that like shiftin autos manual try this, put it in N, rev it, and shove it into drive, its just like a clutch! wow. (lol). Shifting manually will not make you faster and you will prolly break something. The reason they are there is if you want to make sure your car doesnt shift up higher, say in bad weather etc.

And if you own sports car they should be sticks anyway, the only reason to have an auto is if you are one lazy and two drag racing (I am both haha).

FormulaFiend
03-20-2007, 10:04 AM
I agree with the rest of the guys saying it's a bad idea. I just cut a check for 1800 dollars for playing around in lower gears. It may feel torquey as hell and can be fun especially hearing the exhaust pop from back pressure, but the end is what really matters. I really should have gotten an M6, dropping it into first or second and drifting in the rain is too much fun LoL Take it from a guy who learned his lesson. Be kind to your beast.

BadBlueBird*
03-20-2007, 10:06 AM
dont shift manually, you arent better at shifting than the computer.

End thread!:werd:

jmhvenom
03-20-2007, 10:20 AM
I leave it in first in parking garages with the cutouts open, nothing too wrong with that is not hurting it. Only hurts it if you downshift into 2nd or 1st.

01RaptorTA
03-24-2007, 07:59 AM
I agree it's not good for it, but i noticed a very obvious difference drag racing. Me and my buddy with his c5 race all the time, and the only way i can keep up is if i start in first, let it get up the rpm, then shift up into drive. He can launch his vette a million times harder, i lose the race before it starts if i leave it in drive.

import slayer
03-25-2007, 01:06 PM
If you want to shift an A4 manually so bad then get a TH400.

nabdrill
03-27-2007, 03:08 PM
Shifting the transmo manually won't hurt anything, it's just you taking the car thru the paces rather than the computer.

I agree that letting the car shift it's self is better than shifting manually, more consistent. Normally, what I've seen, is if you try to manually shift the 4l60e then you end up over revving or trying to anticipate a certain rpm, both of which will cost you time down the track.

tblu92
04-16-2007, 08:47 AM
dont shift manually, you arent better at shifting than the computer.

I agree completely--I have over 1000 runs under my belt and consider myself a fairly experienced driver--but honestly--the computer does a way better job than I ever could do---It's 1 extra thing to think about---too easy to shift too early and miss the power band or too late at put it on the limiter and lose your momemtum !!!

PFM
04-16-2007, 01:43 PM
The E in the 4L60E stand for electronic and that means even if you have a shift kit installed its not gonna change gears until the CPU tell it to. The only way to shift a 4L60E is to install a manual Valve Body. But then its not an automatic anymore.

blackhawk01
04-18-2007, 07:07 PM
4L06E = Do not shift manually. Trust me, the computer is smarter than you are :)

tblu92
04-18-2007, 08:02 PM
I agree it's not good for it, but i noticed a very obvious difference drag racing. Me and my buddy with his c5 race all the time, and the only way i can keep up is if i start in first, let it get up the rpm, then shift up into drive. He can launch his vette a million times harder, i lose the race before it starts if i leave it in drive.

You have your shift at rpm point set too low in 1st --when you leave in 1st--it will skip over the shift point and go all the way up to the "in-gear" rev limiter which is always set about 500 RPM higher-- If you set the 1st gear RPM shift point higher--then when you leave in drive it will go up to the same RPM as it does when you leave in 1st---and it will be easier on the trans-won't bounce off the limiter--and won't engage the TC and pull timing so you lose your momemtum---Try it this way if you have access to a tuner and see --

01RaptorTA
04-18-2007, 08:06 PM
Yea if i had access to a tuner that would solve the problem completely, i could just change all my shift points and call it a day. But i dont have those kinda connections lol, so i gotta do it my own way for now.