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Sk8d85
10-06-2005, 02:52 PM
I want to put tru duals on my 01 camaro ss. What is a good setup or what is decent that i can use from headers all the way back. Also how much is it going to run me. I want something that will sound bad ass where people practically orgasim lol.:usa:

Zboner
10-06-2005, 02:55 PM
there is a shop by my house that does this, it costs about $1,000 or so depending on how much custom work has to be doen

BIG D's SS
10-06-2005, 03:17 PM
If you have headers my buddy bought a small x-pipe and put cut outs in it and run 1 chamber Flowmasters and turn downs. I think he said even with the cutouts you looking about 5-6 hundred. Without cutouts your looking about 3-4 hundred.

Sk8d85
10-06-2005, 03:30 PM
My car is all stock. So i would need the whole bang.. but do you have any information that could be useful as in whats good out there

BIG D's SS
10-06-2005, 03:32 PM
His car sounds awesome. He has Hooker Headers, tru duals, with electric cutouts, Flowmaster 1 chambers, and turn downs. His car sounds even better with the cam, but it sounded good before the cam.

Sk8d85
10-06-2005, 03:43 PM
I dont want to sound weird but what are electric cutouts, Flowmaster 1 chambers, and turn downs? And also what headers fit an x pipe

BIG D's SS
10-06-2005, 03:47 PM
Cutouts are a way to let the exhaust open up before the mufflers to make it sound more like straight headers. 1 chamber Flowmaster are just the bare minimum muffler to say that you have them. The x pipe is just a way to combine each pipe to help equalize the back pressure between sides. There may be more to it, but that is the basics. Turn downs are just when the pipes come out of the mufflers it turns down to the ground and not blowing on the rearend.

ibanez7
10-06-2005, 03:54 PM
If you need the whole set-up including headers check into this:

Hooker headers, no cats, flowtech x-pipe, most any bullet mufflers (flowmaster, dynomax etc) and turn downs before the axle
You will save money and improve flow by not replacing the cats and just removing them Also you can either pick up cat simulators or have a shop delete the CAT SES code.

I say hooker headers because I believe they are the best bang for the dollar, great quality and no fitment issues.

Generic Cost:
Hooker headers coats $600
Flowtech x-pipe $100
Bullet mufflers $100
Turn downs $40.
Cat delete code or sims about $50

This set-up is a full exhaust turn before the rear axle, the price will vary depending on shop and parts you choose. If you want to go over the rear axle then your look at dropping more change.

Also remember if you plan on making your car a turbo car, true dual is a waste, because you will being go back to single for the turbo setup. That’s the only thing that stops me from going dual is that I want a true front mounted ls1 turbo z28, not some STS rear mount turbo.

NeeD4SpeeD
10-06-2005, 03:56 PM
I have true duals on my T/A and with nice headers the power gain is really nice. I have pacesetter lt headers, no cats, TSP rumbler true dual X system and modified to go under the axel and out the back all mandrel bent...

Here's the price layout:

Remembr these prices DONT include labor cuz i did the work myself...

Pacesetter LT- $399 + $10 shipping
TSP true dual X system w/ 2 18" billet rumbler mufflers- $419 free shipping
Fabricated 3" mandrel duel pipes under axel and out back- $450 installed
No cats- Priceless (there's some power in life you just can't buy, for everything else there's mastercard) :lmao: lol sorry i hadda be gay

Okkkkk... So the grand total is $1279 approximatly for the whole things and all these put together should net you about 30RWHP which i think is alright with me!!!

Good luck with getting everything, if you need some websites where i got the parts from just let me know!!

Sk8d85
10-06-2005, 05:59 PM
Could i get some sites please? Also To get the exhaust coming out the rear end after the x-pipe looking like normal exhaust has to be built by the shop? Also since i do drive it on the road i put around 7K a year on it so i need something that will pass emissions so having cats on it unlike yours would be a good thing right? Im trying to decide going to tru dual or just go with headers a new y-pipe and magnaflow exhaust. would that be a good setup if i do not choose tru dual?

Zboner
10-06-2005, 06:05 PM
yes it would still be a good set up, depends on how LOUD you like you car, with headers and a new Y pipe and Magna it will sound really good.but it wont be duals.

Sk8d85
10-06-2005, 06:24 PM
I would like it to sound like the old muscle cars. I just dont know how tru duals or the magnaflow system sounds in real life. I heard clips online but thats not how its really going to sound. But i am also concerned for emisions testing so i need a nice setup thta sounds awesome that will also pass emission. Thats why i am really looking for lol. thanks for your help everyone i still need more lol i cant decide:brick:

ibanez7
10-07-2005, 09:00 AM
you live in woodridge IL, so check out ls1speed.com (speed inc) they build custom true dual.

ninobrn99
10-08-2005, 05:54 PM
i paid about 650 for my headers and duals (with cats) :D too bad i had to chop them up :cry: texas-speed.com has a dumped system they sell. a local shop should be able to do it for about 4-500 when its all said and done. If you have to do emissions and dont have a hookup and also dont plan on doing longtubes, id look at the bassani dual exhaust system. it goes all the way back.

blackbird01
10-10-2005, 07:51 PM
look at the x pipe system for sale in the "parts for sale" thread

NeeD4SpeeD
10-10-2005, 07:55 PM
i paid about 650 for my headers and duals (with cats) :D too bad i had to chop them up :cry: texas-speed.com has a dumped system they sell. a local shop should be able to do it for about 4-500 when its all said and done. If you have to do emissions and dont have a hookup and also dont plan on doing longtubes, id look at the bassani dual exhaust system. it goes all the way back.

You could have it modified like mine. I torched off the dumps and bent 2 3" mandrel pipes to go UNDER the axel (clearence is fine) and go out the back and the extra pipes were $400 only because they were mandrel and T-304 but if you want regular piping then it was $185 which isnt bad at all and your getting a full 3" front to back with a 3" X-pipe and no restriction at all because it's all mandrel. I'll post pictures tommrow to show everyone how well the project came out and how clean and clearence good it is!!:bravo:

NeeD4SpeeD
10-10-2005, 07:57 PM
Oh and if you didnt know i have the TSP rumbler True X system comming off 1 3/8" Pacesetter LTs

JEB
10-10-2005, 11:19 PM
[QUOTE=Sk8d85]I would like it to sound like the old muscle cars. I just dont know how tru duals or the magnaflow system sounds in real life. I heard clips online but thats not how its really going to sound. But i am also concerned for emisions testing so i need a nice setup thta sounds awesome that will also pass emission. Thats why i am really looking for lol. thanks for your help everyone i still need more lol i cant decide:brick:[/QUOTE


I have true duals on my 2000 SS that goes over the axle and exits out the rear from beneath the bumper in the stock location. I have that old muscle car sound but without the loudness. I have the stock manifolds, stock cats., and straight though, noise cancelling MagnaFlow mufflers, one on each side of the rear tub. I picked up 5 percent in horsepower with just the addition of the dual exhaust system. Other than the duals, my car is stock. We have a very strict emissions test system here in NC (OBD 2 )and I have had no trouble passing the emissions testing that is conducted once each year. Dual exhaust is the only way to go for sound, power, gas milage, and just over all performance. :)

ninobrn99
10-11-2005, 08:38 AM
the reason i had to chop them was because they wouldnt fit with the new torque arm i installed. the new setup isnt bad either. the car is quiet!!!

Sk8d85
10-11-2005, 01:22 PM
With headers if im going to drive just on the street for now what would be best, short tube or long tube. And which brands besides hooker is a great deal?? I heard long tubes are illegal to drive on the street, why?

Also say i say screw the law and go with long tubes, how would my emissions test go lol?

Zboner
10-11-2005, 01:25 PM
long tube, i hear that short arnt worth a shit, and try pacesetters? good price, of stainless is the best.

_JB_
10-12-2005, 09:19 PM
Heres some questions about TDs,
1. If you don't run cats, will the exhaust smell bad like it does when you have an o/r Y-pipe?
2. Do cats on TDs still remove rasp?

Zboner
10-12-2005, 09:21 PM
i dont run cats on my 70 Chevelle, it smess like gas.

BlackHawk T/A
10-13-2005, 02:25 AM
Heres some questions about TDs,
1. If you don't run cats, will the exhaust smell bad like it does when you have an o/r Y-pipe?
2. Do cats on TDs still remove rasp?
Yes and Yes.

_JB_
10-13-2005, 10:37 AM
Yes and Yes.

Thanks

Fran D
10-13-2005, 04:13 PM
I have true duals on my 2000 SS that goes over the axle and exits out the rear from beneath the bumper in the stock location. I have that old muscle car sound but without the loudness. I have the stock manifolds, stock cats., and straight though, noise cancelling MagnaFlow mufflers, one on each side of the rear tub. I picked up 5 percent in horsepower with just the addition of the dual exhaust system. Other than the duals, my car is stock. We have a very strict emissions test system here in NC (OBD 2 )and I have had no trouble passing the emissions testing that is conducted once each year. Dual exhaust is the only way to go for sound, power, gas milage, and just over all performance. :)
JEB, where did you get that done? Any pics?

Zboner
10-13-2005, 04:18 PM
you can get that done in a shop in Cincinnati.

Liquifire
10-14-2005, 03:19 AM
Bassani true dual system looks sweet and goes all the way back, sounds nice too. You might want to check out www.ls1sounds.com for different set ups and see what you like.

JEB
10-16-2005, 12:20 AM
JEB, where did you get that done? Any pics?


I came up with this particular system and with the aid of my friend, who owns a muffler shop, we put it together. I had some pictures, a sound clip, and dyno test results, but I can't find the disc with all that information was on it right now. I am afraid that it has been destroyed because I can't find it anywhere. Oh yes, you ask where I had the dual system made. Right here in my hometown in North Carolina. I had planned to try to sale some of my particular dual exhaust systems, but the interest just didn't seem to be out there. So I gave up on that idea long ago and decided that I would be happy with my dual exhaust system knowing that I have the only one of its kind anywhere out there. For me, it is the perfect dual exhaust system. It was not real expensive to have made. It looks as if it were a factory installed system. Because the system uses straight through, noise cancelling mufflers, that great LS-1 engine breaths deeply and runs almost unrestricted. It is not loud, yet it has that deep muscle car sound. It is quiet inside the car with no roars nor rumbles. It increased my horsepower and torque by about 5 percent. It looks good because the pipes come out from beneath the rear bumper in the stock location. What else could one ask for in a true dual exhaust system?

Fran D
10-16-2005, 08:48 AM
I came up with this particular system and with the aid of my friend, who owns a muffler shop, we put it together. I had some pictures, a sound clip, and dyno test results, but I can't find the disc with all that information was on it right now. I am afraid that it has been destroyed because I can't find it anywhere. Oh yes, you ask where I had the dual system made. Right here in my hometown in North Carolina. I had planned to try to sale some of my particular dual exhaust systems, but the interest just didn't seem to be out there. So I gave up on that idea long ago and decided that I would be happy with my dual exhaust system knowing that I have the only one of its kind anywhere out there. For me, it is the perfect dual exhaust system. It was not real expensive to have made. It looks as if it were a factory installed system. Because the system uses straight through, noise cancelling mufflers, that great LS-1 engine breaths deeply and runs almost unrestricted. It is not loud, yet it has that deep muscle car sound. It is quiet inside the car with no roars nor rumbles. It increased my horsepower and torque by about 5 percent. It looks good because the pipes come out from beneath the rear bumper in the stock location. What else could one ask for in a true dual exhaust system?
Thanks. Now I'm jealous. ;)

By the way, I also own a black, '00 SS. Eventually, I'll get the exhaust the way I want it.

camaro_ss_97_
10-24-2005, 07:45 PM
does anyone have any picture of there true dual set ups?? i have some lt pacesetter headers and a universal x-pipe and 2 slp loud mouth mufflers?

help

DaddySS
10-25-2005, 03:34 AM
I came up with this particular system and with the aid of my friend, who owns a muffler shop, we put it together. I had some pictures, a sound clip, and dyno test results, but I can't find the disc with all that information was on it right now. I am afraid that it has been destroyed because I can't find it anywhere. Oh yes, you ask where I had the dual system made. Right here in my hometown in North Carolina. I had planned to try to sale some of my particular dual exhaust systems, but the interest just didn't seem to be out there. So I gave up on that idea long ago and decided that I would be happy with my dual exhaust system knowing that I have the only one of its kind anywhere out there. For me, it is the perfect dual exhaust system. It was not real expensive to have made. It looks as if it were a factory installed system. Because the system uses straight through, noise cancelling mufflers, that great LS-1 engine breaths deeply and runs almost unrestricted. It is not loud, yet it has that deep muscle car sound. It is quiet inside the car with no roars nor rumbles. It increased my horsepower and torque by about 5 percent. It looks good because the pipes come out from beneath the rear bumper in the stock location. What else could one ask for in a true dual exhaust system?
Did you go over the axle on the left or did you bring them both over the right side? If you went over the left how did you work it? Can you take some new pics?

mrr23
12-27-2005, 09:24 PM
i use the bassani tru-duals on both of my cars. click the links in my sig for pics of it installed on both cars. did some minor modifying to fit the bassani headers as the tru-duals are designed to fit 00-02 cars with stock manifolds and cats.

sound clips of it on the wife's car with the vinci 062 cam

rev in park (http://www.centralfloridastreetcars.com/videos/revinpark.wmv)

idle in park (http://www.centralfloridastreetcars.com/videos/idleinpark.wmv)

idle in drive (http://www.centralfloridastreetcars.com/videos/idleindrive.wmv)

ibanez7
12-28-2005, 01:40 AM
I want to put tru duals on my 01 camaro ss. What is a good setup or what is decent that i can use from headers all the way back. Also how much is it going to run me. I want something that will sound bad ass where people practically orgasim lol.:usa:

if your running LTs already, all you need is an X pipe, bullet mufflers and turn downs. Thats assuming you dont mind dumping the exhaust before the rear axle ?

if so that set up will cost less then $400, and you can install it yourself.
Speed inc. has the Xpipe for around $100.

Also its an easy install, all band clamps!