LS1.com's Raceway Park Challenge...

[Street Lethal]

I've been seeing more and more Tri-State members on this board, and I'm loving it. I'm throwing this idea out to those who might be interested. Why don't we set up a night (or two, or three) of racing over at E-Town, where our members can battle it out. This goes for all members, and all makes, all of them....

Representing LS1.com, we'll have some nice custom stickers specifically made for the occassion. The races will be on video, of course, and with mrr23's permission, will be "stickied" on the Kill Section, eliminating any doubt as to who runs what, and who will beat who. I already know who I'll be running <cough cough> EE1983 <cough cough>, and he better bring his A game.... ;)

We'll even have tuning sessions, for those who need a little bit of help, or who simply want to learn. I think it would be a great idea, as it will spread the word about this excellent website, it'll give quite a few us a chance to meet each other, and it's great entertainment for those who have no track access. They can simply download the races, and feel as if their there. Of course, there are so many more ideas to be added....

I don't want to hear it's too expensive to race there, as we can set such nights up months in advance. That's plenty of time to save for a mere three runs.... :D

Also, from a business standpoint, it's a very good opportunity to reach out to some of the local vendors around here, who are unfamiliar with our site. Umm, can you say, increase in sponsors... ;)

Your thoughts....?

[ss~zoso~ss]

i like it, how far would this be from Hartford Area CT?

i'm interested in goin

[Street Lethal]

i like it, how far would this be from Hartford Area CT? i'm interested in goin

How far are you from Stamford? I drove out there last summer, and got there and back in less than three hours. Mind you, I wasn't even racing any, and there was no traffic whatsoever. It sometimes takes me longer just getting there and back to Atlantic City, in the very same state, no less lol... ;)

The above is why I'm thinking a "Saturday" as race day, (as opposed to Wednesday and Friday night), as the gates open up very very early, and wrapping things up by 5:00PM gives us more than enough time to take care of whatever we need to). I know a few people who work there, so setting things up will be the easy part. Making sure our members are safe both coming, and going though, is what I want to carefully delve into with everyone.

Leaving the track a little before, or after 5:00PM (especially in the spring) is perfect for out CT members. It'll obviously stay light out until 8-9:00PM, and traffic on a Saturday, going towards CT should be very very light (Sunday would be an entirely different story though lol). Getting here is the easy part....

Of course, there are plenty of cheap motels here, it's just a matter of picking which one (for those who prefer to stay over night), then leaving bright and early the following morning. Listings as to locations, and prices, can also be provided, if need be.... :)

[ss~zoso~ss]

do u have the address / nearest address to the raceway so i can run a map quest,


ive never been to the strip before, this could be bad lol

[Street Lethal]

do u have the address / nearest address to the raceway so i can run a map quest,

ive never been to the strip before, this could be bad lol

Raceway Park (http://www.RacewayPark.com)

[stoney2677]

awesome idea hopefully more people will be down

[ss~zoso~ss]

so whats this gonna cost approx.?

[ss~zoso~ss]

also post this in the eastern members seciton :)

[stoney2677]

i c everybody's workin as hard as i am posting all day

[Street Lethal]

In reference to cost, it honestly depends on how we set everything up. Renting out the track, privately, would "sound" costly (not if we pooled though, we'd actually save more that way), however, you want to take advantage of a day in which other spectators will be there. The primary objective, of course, is to have fun....

I recommend setting up our own "location" in the pit area where everyone will initially gather. We'll have our own designated runs, which will be recorded. Each member will have a chance to introduce themselves, and their cars. A DVD is in order, and the special features will embellish on each runner. Tuning, tech help, will all be there, exclusively. The fuel, as well as the racing will be the easy part. It all depends on just how far we take it....

To watch, any spectator can expect to pay around $15.00, to watch all day long (plenty of food and drink). To race, its about $35.00 for three runs (the prices vary according to the specific day). Like mentioned though, if planned months in advance, it can easily be saved for. The park doesn't really have to do anything specifically, only host us. We're doing all the work, and paying as if racing independently. Unless we plan it a different way, of course.... ;)

[Wesman]

In reference to cost, it honestly depends on how we set everything up. Renting out the track, privately, would "sound" costly (not if we pooled though, we'd actually save more that way), however, you want to take advantage of a day in which other spectators will be there. The primary objective, of course, is to have fun....

I recommend setting up our own "location" in the pit area where everyone will initially gather. We'll have our own designated runs, which will be recorded. Each member will have a chance to introduce themselves, and their cars. A DVD is in order, and the special features will embellish on each runner. Tuning, tech help, will all be there, exclusively. The fuel, as well as the racing will be the easy part. It all depends on just how far we take it....

To watch, any spectator can expect to pay around $15.00, to watch all day long (plenty of food and drink). To race, its about $35.00 for three runs (the prices vary according to the specific day). Like mentioned though, if planned months in advance, it can easily be saved for. The park doesn't really have to do anything specifically, only host us. We're doing all the work, and paying as if racing independently. Unless we plan it a different way, of course.... ;)

Sounds good. I'd definitely be interested in attending :)

[Street Lethal]

Sounds good. I'd definitely be interested in attending :)

I honestly already expected you to come and represent the LS1 crew. I caught a pic of your Trans Am the other day, that is one sweet ride you got there. It's going to look even sweeter while hauling @ss down the track... ;)

Mike and the other New Jersians as well. We need to pick a day that is honestly good for everybody. If anyone has ideas regarding LS1.com stickers, or is a good designer, by all means, chime in. Should definitely be a group effort... :)

[Wesman]

I honestly already expected you to come and represent the LS1 crew. I caught a pic of your Trans Am the other day, that is one sweet ride you got there. It's going to look even sweeter while hauling @ss down the track... ;)

Mike and the other New Jersians as well. We need to pick a day that is honestly good for everybody. If anyone has ideas regarding LS1.com stickers, or is a good designer, by all means, chime in. Should definitely be a group effort... :)

Thanks for the compliments :)

I'd love to come and represent the LS1 crew, maybe I'll have my headers by then too :devil:

[Street Lethal]

That's a very good point. From now til then, I'm sure many of us will be adding to our set-ups. I'm pretty much finished with my '98, save for a ProCharger, but I doubt I'll have it on the engine, let alone in my possession, til the end of summer. The '92 should be ready by then, so I'll more than likely be running both of them...

Also, just to throw this out there. For simplicity, why don't we just run what we brung, heads up. Lets not worry about different time classes, as nobody is expecting a twelve second car to pull on a ten second car. However, a poor launch and 60 foot can reduce one's ET greatly, so nobody should be surprised when they see slower cars running quicker times than faster one's... :)

[whiteghoztt]

damn, I want to go... I doubt the g/f will be up for it though.

[Street Lethal]

Quick update...

Quite a few local racers expressed an interest to me, and would just love to come down to challenge the LS1.com'ers, or as they put it, hand us our "@sses" (this one guy with an extremely fast Porsche is dying to take on my stock looking '98. Boy is he in for a freaking surprise)....

Mentioned in passing to some of the Import guys who work at one of our local Exxon's, heh, looks like we won't be racing ourselves after all guys. 9:00am - 5:00pm might not be enough time, as the Import crowd alone are a good thirty to forty cars, ready to throw down I might add. Might not be able to race each and every damn one, but will definitely get as much footage on video as possible. Looks to be a very interesting year.... :yup:

[Street Lethal]

damn, I want to go... I doubt the g/f will be up for it though.

This is why we plan it months in advance. Your girl will have an awesome time, as it's a relaxed environment (despite the constant sound of engines screaming to a gazillion RPM's). The weather should be ideal, with the food being even better. I'm really hoping to meet up w/all you guys... :)

[Street Lethal]

The stock video footage will obviously be transferred to DVD after everything is edited. I wanted to get some opinions as to how you want to see the runs. The pit area is a given, as each members car will be entirely covered from bumper to bumper. But as far as the runs though, we have two video camera's, and my buddy agreed to record with the other one for me....

I'm thinking two camera's on opposite sides of the track, a little after the tree, facing the burn out boxes. The edited version will show each racer burning out from their own respected angles, then when finished, and both drivers approach the tree, we'll have one 'constant' stream all the way down the track...

Thoughts...?

[ss~zoso~ss]

you need to bring this to the attention of more LS1 members i think

[djvaly]

I lived in Farmington CT for 15 yrs, been in Dallas for 3... ;) went to UCONN as well.

[Street Lethal]

you need to bring this to the attention of more LS1 members i think

It's honestly still in a preliminary stage. Again though, the bottom line is that we have a good time. Believe me when I tell you, getting local LSX owners to go will be very easy, as most of them will honestly be there already. When you come, your going to see a lot of these people (http://challengevideos.com). I'm really more concerned with filming our local members, and sharing with our other members.... :)

[EE1983]

Haha that would be fun, especially if it was for everyone to come and race! BTW do you really want to run a stock turbo'd EVO in your head/cam, stalled, lightened drag TA? LOL. Dont think thatd be much fun for you or me

EDIT: What car is that in your avatar? Looks like old Callaway Vette

[Street Lethal]

Haha that would be fun, especially if it was for everyone to come and race! BTW do you really want to run a stock turbo'd EVO in your head/cam, stalled, lightened drag TA? LOL. Dont think thatd be much fun for you or me...

It's all in fun though, it doesn't matter who's matched up against who. The idea is to get some of our members together, have some fun racing, video it, and have LS1.com host the final result. I'd honestly like to see you and Wes going at it (I'm sure I speak for many when saying that)... ;)

EDIT: What car is that in your avatar? Looks like old Callaway Vette...

You are correct. That's a very rare Calloway Twin Turbo vette known as "Sledgehammer". Easy 10 second quarter mile times, and top speed of 250+ mph....

[EE1983]

It's all in fun though, it doesn't matter who's matched up against who. The idea is to get some of our members together, have some fun racing, video it, and have LS1.com host the final result. I'd honestly like to see you and Wes going at it (I'm sure I speak for many when saying that)... ;)



You are correct. That's a very rare Calloway Twin Turbo vette known as "Sledgehammer". Easy 10 second quarter mile times, and top speed of 250+ mph....

Haha I know Im just messing. Actually you and I or even myself and Wes wouldnt be a good matchup in terms of mods because your way over my head and Im way over his. Either way, with all this nasty cold weather, Im pretty excited to go out and drive when the weather gets better!

Callaway Corvettes - man I used to sweat those things in grade school. I had a poster of one in my room for a long time! Cool stuff!

[Street Lethal]

myself and Wes wouldnt be a good matchup in terms of mods. Im way over his head.

Them there be fightin words in this here town.... ;)

Seriously, even if you out-mod him, it would still all be in fun. Remember though, a lot of it has to do with your reaction time, launch and sixty foot. You might run a better ET than Wes in the end, but if he gets there first (despite running a slower time), he wins. We definitely won't be bracket racing, that's for sure, it'll be heads up.... :yup:

[EE1983]

Them there be fightin words in this here town.... ;)

Seriously, even if you out-mod him, it would still all be in fun. Remember though, a lot of it has to do with your reaction time, launch and sixty foot. You might run a better ET than Wes in the end, but if he gets there first (despite running a slower time), he wins. We definitely won't be bracket racing, that's for sure, it'll be heads up.... :yup:

Yeah I despise bracket racing. I think its pretty lame - heads up is the way to go.

[Street Lethal]

Also, I'm pretty sure Wes is going to have a few mods up his sleeve, from now until then. Mike needs to bring his Camaro, most definitely... need to get his @ss on tape! ;)

I'm getting some PM's from some New Jersey guys without LS1's, and if your reading this, by all means, bring whatever you want to... just "bring it"! :D

[djvaly]

you need to bring this to the attention of more LS1 members i think

post it up in the Eastern region threads. :drunk2:
if you ask a Mod he'd even make it a sticky for you... :shrug:

[Street Lethal]

if you ask a Mod he'd even make it a sticky for you...

True, I even contemplated posting this with the other forums I'm affiliated with. The problem though, is it might get out of hand. There are going to be tons of Imports and Domestics there already, so from a competitve standpoint, it's more than a given. The real concept though, is to get some (I'm being realistic) of LS1.com's members there, introduced, filmed, documented, and shared with our other members. If it turns into something greater, that would be excellent, but getting some of us racing against each other is the idea. It would be healthy for us, collectively, and even more healthy for the website... :)

[MikeSomething]

Mike needs to bring his Camaro, most definitely... need to get his @ss on tape! ;)

Who me? My Slow Z? LOL! This does sound like a great idea... I would see who is a member of LS1.com from the NJFBOA.org forums and invite them as well...

[Spaz]

I'm game as long as i get my new rear before then... :yup:

[Street Lethal]

Definitely guys, it's going to happen. At least ten LS1.com New Jersey members are down, and I'm sure the others that are stretching across the tri-state are contemplating it. I haven't continued this thread because I'm trying to set something up with Raceway Park first. Something similar to "Mopar vs the World", but of course, embellishing "LSX vs the World"....

I also scrapped (well, delayed, anyways) the Gale Banks TT concept on my '92. That build is very costly, and I'd much rather get my hands on a ProCharger by mid March for the '98, switching to Speed Density, then spend a few weeks testing and tuning her. Hoping to get her in the high 9's when all is said and done (w/traction, of course).... ;)

NJFBOA.org are too scared to race heads up, they'd much rather sit there and twiddle their thumbs, while PC racing against each other. They don't have the nerve....! :O













Just kidding guys lol.... :D :devil:

[MikeSomething]

NJFBOA.org are too scared to race heads up, they'd much rather sit there and twiddle their thumbs, while PC racing against each other. They don't have the nerve....! :O

Just kidding guys lol.... :D :devil:

You crack me up man! :rotfl:

[Wesman]

Haha I know Im just messing. Actually you and I or even myself and Wes wouldnt be a good matchup in terms of mods because your way over my head and Im way over his. Either way, with all this nasty cold weather, Im pretty excited to go out and drive when the weather gets better!

Callaway Corvettes - man I used to sweat those things in grade school. I had a poster of one in my room for a long time! Cool stuff!

Man you really are cocky, aren't you?? Seems that all import owners are, I'm not surprised at all.

Whats funny is I could just as easily get a Heads/Cam package, bolt it on, and destroy your ricebox like its going backwards. But what would that prove?? That my car is faster than a piece of shit econobox?? Thats pointless for me, and a waste of time.

You just keep dumping money in that piece of crap, its funny for me. Make sure you come on here and tell is when the transaxle and transfer case blow apart all over the road. Oh yea, and in case you haven't realized by now, turbo lag isn't your friend. Hence the reason I'll never own a turbocharged 4 banger that sounds like a weedwacker, or anything Nipponese for that matter; its just pointless.

I'll race anyone at the track for fun, and if I do race you and you happen to beat me, don't think you're on top of the world. My car is practically stock besides the gears, so its no big achievement for you if you edge out a practically stock LS1 by a few tenths with your riceburner that has thousands of dollars invested in it. Thats not something I would brag about.

[EE1983]

Man you really are cocky, aren't you?? Seems that all import owners are, I'm not surprised at all.

Whats funny is I could just as easily get a Heads/Cam package, bolt it on, and destroy your ricebox like its going backwards. But what would that prove?? That my car is faster than a piece of shit econobox?? Thats pointless for me, and a waste of time.

I'll race anyone at the track for fun, and if I do race you and you happen to beat me, don't think you're on top of the world. My car is practically stock besides the gears, so its no big achievement for you if you edge out a practically stock LS1 by a few tenths with your riceburner that has thousands of dollars invested in it. Thats not something I would brag about.

Why is that statement cocky? I said we wouldnt be a good matchup because I have more mods than you. "Eding out" a stock LS1by a few tenths? Umm last time I checked you were the one running mid 13s and I ran 11.9 last time I was at the track. Thats on pump gas too. Thats a full second and a half quicker, not mention 10-12mph faster.

Also, since when do you "easily" get a head/cam package and "bolt it in" and just go. Last time I checked they are a couple grand, arent considerd a BOLT ON and take some time to install, then you definitely need a tune, along with some headers. Not exactly installed using a screwdriver and a rachet. But thats besides the point. Youre going to need some tire to hook.



You just keep dumping money in that piece of crap, its funny for me. Make sure you come on here and tell is when the transaxle and transfer case blow apart all over the road. Oh yea, and in case you haven't realized by now, turbo lag isn't your friend.

Kind of like how if you bolt in that H/C package youll need a new rear since that cant handle the power LOL.

Dumping money? I have all bolt-ons and pair of cams. I spent $400 on a clutch after the stocker kicked out at 52k. Thats dumping money huh? Comeon already, just quit that. Also, you need the head/cam package now to beat me? I thought you could do it with hardly any mods because Im a 4 banger? :zzz:

Youve been set on my transfer case blowing for quite some time now. Funny myself or any of my friends with 400+ EVOs have been just fine. Im at almost 70k miles with plenty of launches. So.. whens it going to happen? Keep using that as an excuse, see how far that gets you :zzz:

BTW, doesnt seem like you enjoy any competitiveness. Everytime you write something on here is sounds like youre about to shit yourself your so mad. Relax a little man. Just remeber, I said we wouldnt be a good matchup and Im right.

[EE1983]

Also, if I did line up with you and beat you, I wouldnt think I was on top of the world. In fact, it would be worthless for me since your car isnt fast. I enjoy beating other fast cars.

[ss~zoso~ss]

lets simmer down now ,and not ruin the thread :)

[djvaly]

:drama: let's get back to the main subject ;)

[JHayesLS1]

Man I wish I could fly to NJ just to see this

[Street Lethal]

Man I wish I could fly to NJ just to see this...

It's all going to be on video, you'll see and hear everything, that's a promise.... ;)

[Wesman]

Why is that statement cocky? I said we wouldnt be a good matchup because I have more mods than you. "Eding out" a stock LS1by a few tenths? Umm last time I checked you were the one running mid 13s and I ran 11.9 last time I was at the track. Thats on pump gas too. Thats a full second and a half quicker, not mention 10-12mph faster.

With headers and an exhaust I'll be in the mid 12's. Thats only a half second difference, and there's no guarentee that you're going to pull an 11.9. In fact the odds are against you. I ran a 13.4 with a 2,000 RPM launch, feathering the clutch. And I was pretty much stock. You ran an 11.9 (or so you claim) launching at redline and frying your clutch. 10-12MPH faster?? Who are you kidding?? You're not even in the ballpark.

Also, since when do you "easily" get a head/cam package and "bolt it in" and just go. Last time I checked they are a couple grand, arent considerd a BOLT ON and take some time to install, then you definitely need a tune, along with some headers. Not exactly installed using a screwdriver and a rachet. But thats besides the point. Youre going to need some tire to hook.

I can get a set of brand new Stage III LS6 heads for $1200. I could bolt them on in a day, and I'd be pushing at least 380HP at the wheels. Couple grand?? Nahh, sorry, its not some piece of shit improt that costs thousands of dollars to make fast. Not to mention, weren't you the one that claimed your cams were a "bolt on"?? But now that we're not talking about Evos, everything changes. I already have headers on the way (learn to read) and a tune is not a big deal.

Now Mr. AWD is going to preach to me about tires?? As if you know anything about RWD traction. I already have Eagle F1 GS 285/40's, and when its warm out they provide plenty of traction on the launch.

like how if you bolt in that H/C package youll need a new rear since that cant handle the power LOL.

Right. There are guys in the 10's with the stock 10 bolt. Its all in how you treat it. Whats funny is the 10 bolt is about 3 times the size of your Evos differential, see our cars have this thing called "low end torque", doubt you've ever heard of it, and it tends to snap things when driven in an abusive manner.

Dumping money? I have all bolt-ons and pair of cams. I spent $400 on a clutch after the stocker kicked out at 52k. Thats dumping money huh? Comeon already, just quit that. Also, you need the head/cam package now to beat me? I thought you could do it with hardly any mods because Im a 4 banger? :zzz:

Right. As if upping the boost with an MBC doesn't play into the equation. Save your bullshit for someone who cares, the point is you've dropped a few grand into that car in order to hit low 12's. Dollar for dollar, and F-Body will stomp your ricebox into the ground. Funny how you like you challenge a practically stock one like myself, instead of someone with some mods that are on par with yours. Obviously you'd get your ass kicked, which is the reason you don't.

I can't just turn up my boost instantaneosly like you can in your little riceburner. Even with Heads and Cam, I'd still have less money invested in my car, and it would be just as fast. Not to mention I'd have a respectable trap speed in proportion to my ET, unlike your AWD econocar.

Youve been set on my transfer case blowing for quite some time now. Funny myself or any of my friends with 400+ EVOs have been just fine. Im at almost 70k miles with plenty of launches. So.. whens it going to happen? Keep using that as an excuse, see how far that gets you :zzz:

Do you not read what other Evo owners have to say?? Its a common occurance for Evos to blow transmissions and transfer cases. Just because it hasn't happened to you yet doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist. My 10 bolt is fine, does that mean it can't and won't ever blow?? No, you're just ignorant and won't accept the fact that your precious Evo isn't indestructible. I'd laugh my ass off if you launched at Englishtown and puked your transmission all over the track.

You need to use some common sense. I know it will be hard seeing as you don't have any, but you need to try. See, the Evos transmission is about the size of my rear differential, yet its got 5 gears and a differential in it. A transmission's strength is directly related to how large it is, since smaller components can't take as much stress as larger ones, given the same materials. Its simple physics, you obviously don't understand that though. Just because yours hasn't broken doesn't mean you aren't on borrowed time, or that its invincible. Your car isn't built for dragstip duty, 6K RPM launches, or pounding gears. Mitsubitchi took the piece of shit lancer and modified it to go around the twisties, not challenge F-Bodies at the track and end up breaking.

BTW, doesnt seem like you enjoy any competitiveness. Everytime you write something on here is sounds like youre about to shit yourself your so mad. Relax a little man. Just remeber, I said we wouldnt be a good matchup and Im right.

I don't enjoy ricers like yourself coming on here and bragging about how your highly modified Evo can beat up on practically stock F-Bodies. You act like your car is better just because you've wasted thousands of dollars to make that POS fast. Good for you, I still think your car is a complete waste of time and money. Not to mention it sounds like a weedwacker is is built like crap.

[EE1983]

With headers and an exhaust I'll be in the mid 12's. Thats only a half second difference, and there's no guarentee that you're going to pull an 11.9. In fact the odds are against you. I ran a 13.4 with a 2,000 RPM launch, feathering the clutch. And I was pretty much stock. You ran an 11.9 (or so you claim) launching at redline and frying your clutch. 10-12MPH faster?? Who are you kidding?? You're not even in the ballpark.



I can get a set of brand new Stage III LS6 heads for $1200. I could bolt them on in a day, and I'd be pushing at least 380HP at the wheels. I already have headers on the way (learn to read) and a tune is not a big deal.

Now Mr. AWD is going to preach to me about tires?? As if you know anything about RWD traction. I already have Eagle F1 GS 285/40's, and when its warm out they provide plenty of traction on the launch.



Right. There are guys in the 10's with the stock 10 bolt. Its all in how you treat it. Whats funny is the 10 bolt is about 3 times the size of your Evos differential, see our cars have this thing called "low end torque", doubt you've ever heard of it, and it tends to snap things when driven in an abusive manner.







I ran 11.9 with a 1.82 60" with a 4000rpm launch. Rev limit is 7900, I do not launch anywhere near there.

You went 106mph. I went 118mph. 118-106=12mph. Looks like youre way off.

You can get heads for 1200 OK... what about a cam, and Id say a tune is pretty necessary to really get the most out of the setup. Thats over $2000 no doubt. You need to brush on some math.

Either way, lets stop bickering, Ill see you at the track. Better get those head/cam or a 150 shot to make up that 12mph or more, because I wont be on pump gas.

[Wesman]

I ran 11.9 with a 1.82 60" with a 4000rpm launch. Rev limit is 7900, I do not launch anywhere near there.

Most of your time is in your launch, obviously. I'm sure if you lauched any higher the entire drivetrain would grenade. Like I said, your diff is the size of a grapefruit.

You went 106mph. I went 118mph. 118-106=12mph. Looks like youre way off.

That was my first time at the track. I took off at 2,000RPM. Your car would have stalled from taking off that low. Track temps were over 100 degrees, and my car was still mostly stock besides 4.10 gears and a shitty 80 series muffler. Once again, way to compare your highly modified ricer to my practically stock Muscle car.

You can get heads for 1200 OK... what about a cam, and Id say a tune is pretty necessary to really get the most out of the setup. Thats over $2000 no doubt. You need to brush on some math.

A cam isn't required when you change the heads. Unlike you, I need my car as a DD, I can't have it surging at low RPM's from an aggressive cam profile. And even if I did get the entire package, LS6 Heads, Cam, and Hardened Pushrods, it would be $1500 from Texas speed. And Like I said, which you didn't bother to read, a tune isn't a big deal. I can have someone with HP Tuners or LS1 Edit tune for a couple hundred bucks or less. Thats not over $2,000 there genius, maybe you need to finish high school.

Either way, lets stop bickering, Ill see you at the track. Better get those head/cam or a 150 shot to make up that 12mph or more, because I wont be on pump gas.

Don't plan on seeing me at the track. I don't like you, I don't like your car, and I don't like your attitude. I'll be hanging out with the F-Body guys, I hate ricers like yourself.

[EE1983]

Most of your time is in your launch, obviously. I'm sure if you lauched any higher the entire drivetrain would grenade. Like I said, your diff is the size of a grapefruit.

Funny I guess you dont race often, just talk. My mph was 118. Which means I could have gone mid 11s with a HARD launch.



That was my first time at the track. I took off at 2,000RPM. Your car would have stalled from taking off that low. Track temps were over 100 degrees, and my car was still mostly stock besides 4.10 gears and a shitty 80 series muffler. Once again, way to compare your highly modified ricer to my practically stock Muscle car.

Now im "highly" modified?



A cam isn't required when you change the heads. Unlike you, I need my car as a DD, I can't have it surging at low RPM's from an aggressive cam profile. And even if I did get the entire package, LS6 Heads, Cam, and Hardened Pushrods, it would be $1500 from Texas speed. And Like I said, which you didn't bother to read, a tune isn't a big deal. I can have someone with HP Tuners or LS1 Edit tune for a couple hundred bucks or less. Thats not over $2,000 there genius, maybe you need to finish high school.

I didnt say it was required but we were talking about doing a head/cam package. Wow so youd spend $1800 or so... $2000 was an estimate, relax and stop trying to insult. Im a college graduate thanks.


Don't plan on seeing me at the track. I don't like you, I don't like your car, and I don't like your attitude. I'll be hanging out with the F-Body guys, I hate ricers like yourself.

I didnt say we had to hang out. Just line up with me.

[Wesman]

Funny I guess you dont race often, just talk. My mph was 118. Which means I could have gone mid 11s with a HARD launch.

Maybe you could have. Your car would have broke though, thats a guarentee. I'm sure you know that already though, which is why you didn't do it.

Now im "highly" modified?

You have thousands of dollars invested in your car. Compared to my car, you're highly modified.

I didnt say we had to hang out. Just line up with me.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. I don't want to see your face. I don't want to see your piece of shit car. I don't want to see cocky import owners who like to brag about their riceburners at an F-Body meet up. Is that clear enough for you??

[djvaly]

:debil: :drunk: :spank2: :think: this thread is way off subject...

[EE1983]

Maybe you could have. Your car would have broke though, thats a guarentee. I'm sure you know that already though, which is why you didn't do it.



You have thousands of dollars invested in your car. Compared to my car, you're highly modified.



Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. I don't want to see your face. I don't want to see your piece of shit car. I don't want to see cocky import owners who like to brag about their riceburners at an F-Body meet up. Is that clear enough for you??


Yeah my full bolts are a fortune haha.

Yeah youre right, it would have broken. I guess I should have told that to my friend who was next to me pulling 1.61s running mid 11s.

[EE1983]

Yeah way off topic, Wesman, lets cut it, we're ruining this thread again

[MikeSomething]

...So anyway, about this meet up at Raceway...

[djvaly]

...So anyway, about this meet up at Raceway...

yep, the meet... back to the main subject... :villagers:

[ss~zoso~ss]

guys come on lets keep on track

[Street Lethal]

Quite a few local Third Generation F-Body's now want in as well. I just got back from Exxon, and those Import guys that hang around there are really looking forward to "cleaning our clocks". He he, bring it....! ;)

Wes and EE don't necessarily have to run against each other (although everyone wants to see that, I'm sure). I honestly want everyone to be comfortable with each other at the track. No worries, no trouble, just a really good time.... :D

[Street Lethal]

EE1983, I have a really good match up for you in mind, and it's something that quite a few from another board will want to see as well. My buddy runs a Third Generation Camaro, w/3.1 Turbo. His old time was 12.6, w/16 pounds of boost (I don't recall mph), and no stall. Now, however, he's since upped the boost 'some' (hehe), and installed a 4000 stall speed converter. Haven't seen it yet since the upgrade, but from what I'm hearing, its definitely running in your range. A very cool guy to boot... :)

[EE1983]

EE1983, I have a really good match up for you in mind, and it's something that quite a few from another board will want to see as well. My buddy runs a Third Generation Camaro, w/3.1 Turbo. His old time was 12.6, w/16 pounds of boost (I don't recall mph), and no stall. Now, however, he's since upped the boost 'some' (hehe), and installed a 4000 stall speed converter. Haven't seen it yet since the upgrade, but from what I'm hearing, its definitely running in your range. A very cool guy to boot... :)


Sounds like fun! Im going to have to try and borrow some drag radials for this, my Dunlops are gonna kill me off the line!

[Street Lethal]

Im going to have to try and borrow some drag radials for this, my Dunlops are gonna kill me off the line!

I honestly wish I were able to borrow someone else's 12 bolt for this LOL. I'm still running the stock rear-end, and since the latest upgrades, although I hammer on it from a roll, I've yet to really plant it down from a dig...

[EE1983]

I honestly wish I were able to borrow someone else's 12 bolt for this LOL. I'm still running the stock rear-end, and since the latest upgrades, although I hammer on it from a roll, I've yet to really plant it down from a dig...


I would have definitely thought youd have a Moser on there with your mods! Well hopefully no one breaks anything!

[Street Lethal]

I would have definitely thought youd have a Moser on there with your mods! Well hopefully no one breaks anything!

Once I had the cam dialed in, the tranny mount was in pieces not too long afterward. She's had some supension tweaks here and there since I've owner the car, but not the rear though, I just haven't had any time lately. Of course, if the ProCharger goes on, I have absolutely no choice but to install a stronger rearend. Hello home equity loan lol.... ;)

[MikeSomething]

Street Lethal, please keep me posted about an exact date & time... I'd really hate to miss this!

[EE1983]

Once I had the cam dialed in, the tranny mount was in pieces not too long afterward. She's had some supension tweaks here and there since I've owner the car, but not the rear though, I just haven't had any time lately. Of course, if the ProCharger goes on, I have absolutely no choice but to install a stronger rearend. Hello home equity loan lol.... ;)


Haha I can only imagine. Would you change the cam if you put on the Procharger?

[Street Lethal]

Street Lethal, please keep me posted about an exact date & time... I'd really hate to miss this!

Will do Mike... :)

Haha I can only imagine. Would you change the cam if you put on the Procharger?

Oh no, the cam will definitely be staying in. The boost, unfortunately, will have to be limited though. Later on, when a happy compression medium is realized, I can up the boost (and more than likely swap the cam)....

[EE1983]

Will do Mike... :)



Oh no, the cam will definitely be staying in. The boost, unfortunately, will have to be limited though. Later on, when a happy compression medium is realized, I can up the boost (and more than likely swap the cam)....

Oh no I didnt mean take it out in general (that would be silly LOL), I meant change it to a Forced induction cam. I was under the impression there is a big difference and much more power to be had with it.

[Lakewood]

Oh no I didnt mean take it out in general (that would be silly LOL), I meant change it to a Forced induction cam. I was under the impression there is a big difference and much more power to be had with it.

There you go again with that import > domestic stuff, when are you gonna learn?

[EE1983]

There you go again with that import > domestic stuff, when are you gonna learn?

WOW. Im talking about removing his current cam which is setup for motor and replacing it with a cam that is meant for a forced induction setup (supercharger or turbo). What the hell are you talking about? Mind your own business.

[Street Lethal]

There you go again with that import > domestic stuff, when are you gonna learn?

Lakewood, EE1983 is absolutely right. Although my camshaft will make very good numbers with a Procharger, it is not specifically tailored for boosted applications. For the amount of boost that I will eventually be running, a cam with much less overlap is definitely in order.... ;)

[Wesman]

Lakewood, EE1983 is absolutely right. Although my camshaft will make very good numbers with a Procharger, it is not specifically tailored for boosted applications. For the amount of boost that I will eventually be running, a cam with much less overlap is definitely in order.... ;)

Otherwise you'll be bleeding off boost!! No good!! :sillyme:

[Stone]

Lakewood.....ill give you some good advice.......GO AWAY!!!! You are incompetent and ignorant........


BTW i would like to go up there and run.......i would def trailer my car or if not have at least 2k on me

[Street Lethal]

BTW i would like to go up there and run. i would def trailer my car or if not have at least 2k on me...

That would be something else if you could make the trip all the way over. There are some mega-quick SRT-4's that race here, and you'll definitely fit right in... :)

Something about those turbo cars that get's the blood flowing, especially that "turbo sneeze" (Grand Nationals in particular, extremely distinctive) after each burn out... ;)

I on the other hand am definitely looking to make more than one run that day, which means, you guessed it, roll bar. I do not want to jeapordize my car, but hey, I gotta do what I gotta do <insert Soprano accent>.... :D

[4tun8]

I might make it out, it's a 2 hour drive, depends on the day....I'm supposed to race some idiot with a built evo and take his 100 bucks from him with my inferior evo =p

Idiot agreed to race me on pump gas with a 35r....he wont have a chance.

[Street Lethal]

I might make it out, it's a 2 hour drive, depends on the day...

Excellent. Be sure to bring that EVO of yours on up. It's more than likely going to be on a Saturday. It'll be scheduled way in advance, so there will be plenty of time for everyone to prepare for (additional 'mod' wise, especially)... ;)

[Street Lethal]

Sounds like fun! Im going to have to try and borrow some drag radials for this, my Dunlops are gonna kill me off the line!

Providing the weather is good (supposed to be sunny this weekend), Dave is running his boosted Camaro this weekend over at Raceway Park. This would be a very good time to meet up with us, as I think he's scheduled to race a Honda Civic claiming close to four hundred WHP...

I'm not racing this weekend, as I'm saving it for this event. However, this would be a great day to meet up with us, meet each other, and discuss the upcoming event in even greater detail. Also, for those running a fourth generation (and third) F-Body, and are contemplating a turbo system, this is your chance to see one first hand, as he specifically designs them for these cars...

Hope some of you can make it out this weekend, as I'd like to meet a few of you before this event happens... ;)

[stoney2677]

when exactly are some of you headin down there. id also like to meet up before the event.

Providing the weather is good (supposed to be sunny this weekend), Dave is running his boosted Camaro this weekend over at Raceway Park. This would be a very good time to meet up with us, as I think he's scheduled to race a Honda Civic claiming close to four hundred WHP...

I'm not racing this weekend, as I'm saving it for this event. However, this would be a great day to meet up with us, meet each other, and discuss the upcoming event in even greater detail. Also, for those running a fourth generation (and third) F-Body, and are contemplating a turbo system, this is your chance to see one first hand, as he specifically designs them for these cars...

Hope some of you can make it out this weekend, as I'd like to meet a few of you before this event happens... ;)

[Street Lethal]

when exactly are some of you headin down there. id also like to meet up before the event.

Weather has finally cleared up today, and it looks to be a good day tomorrow. I honestly like to get there as early as possible, which means, between 10:00am to 12:00pm, for me (if I don't go out tonight, of course... ;)

If you come down, look for a blue '89 Camaro, a blue '98 Trans Am, a Burnt orange '07 Eclipse-GT, and a black '95 Eclipse GSX. There should be a few more of us, but I'm not sure who's running, and who's watching... :)

[Boosted89rs]

heya street thnx for the heads up,anyways its a 50/50 shot on me running the car tom,im still having some ignition problems witht he car.(anything more then 7psi of boost and the ignition is breaking up over 4,000 rpms).but regardless im still going,hopefully ill the problem sorted out so the car can be run.but u guys that are interested in seeing the turbo setup can come check it out,ill prolly get there as gates open tom

[Street Lethal]

I might have a spare ignition module lying around from my old 3.1 set-up. I'll take a look when I get home. Yeah, I'm going to try to get there when the gates open as well, as tomorrow (weather permitting) is going to be an absolute mad house! :D :yup:

Street Wars (http://www.racewaypark.com/images/07/STREETWARS.jpg)

[Boosted89rs]

I might have a spare ignition module lying around from my old 3.1 set-up. I'll take a look when I get home. Yeah, I'm going to try to get there when the gates open as well, as tomorrow (weather permitting) is going to be an absolute mad house! :D :yup:

Street Wars (http://www.racewaypark.com/images/07/STREETWARS.jpg)
thnx man,hey check ur pms on tgo

[JoeShmoe]

I'll tell ya, there's something about New Jersey and F-bodies that just go hand in hand.:woo:

I'll try to go for the main event. I'm in Morris County.

I'll let my sister know, also. She has an 01 WS6.

[Wesman]

I'll tell ya, there's something about New Jersey and F-bodies that just go hand in hand.:woo:

I'll try to go for the main event. I'm in Morris County.

I'll let my sister know, also. She has an 01 WS6.

Where 'bouts in Morris county??

I'm from Hackettstown, in Warren :)

[Street Lethal]

I'll tell ya, there's something about New Jersey and F-bodies that just go hand in hand. I'll try to go for the main event. I'm in Morris County. I'll let my sister know, also. She has an 01 WS6....

Good deal! A few friends from Greenbrook township are racing w/us tomorrow. How far are you from Route 22, because your car looks extremely familiar....

[Street Lethal]

heya street thnx for the heads up,anyways its a 50/50 shot on me running the car tom...

Dave, how much of a difference when you installed that 4000 stall speed converter? I can only imagine how you must be taking off from the dig. Hopefully you get that ignition ailment worked out by morning, cuz I need to get that V6 terror of yours on tape tomorrow.... ;)

[Boosted89rs]

Dave, how much of a difference when you installed that 4000 stall speed converter? I can only imagine how you must be taking off from the dig. Hopefully you get that ignition ailment worked out by morning, cuz I need to get that V6 terror of yours on tape tomorrow.... ;)
well the converters a lil tight,but it makes a world of difference,before the converter the car would 60' in the 2.1-2.2 range,im expecting some 1.7-1.8 60's now if the dam 10 bolt holds together.i wouldnt expect to much out of my car right now.i blew up my worked motor last year,so the cars had a bone stock 3.1 in it for some time now.though even on the stock engine it should still pull some nice 13 sec slips.on the other hand im almost done building a 3.3L twin turbo motor thats going into the car in april,ill be looking for low 11's or better with that setup.
alright im gonan get out and work on the car and see if i can get my ign problems sorted out,ill give ya a call when i get to the track

[Street Lethal]

Cannot believe I've been up this early, especially on a non-working day lol. I'm only a mere block from Route 9, and already I'm hearing the sound of lawn-mowers (j/k) coming in from New York to do battle....

I hope traffic is good on Texas Road, as I think the Englishtown flea market is also open, and that alone causes major delays. Weather looks freaking great. Sunny, with a high of close to 60!!! :yup:

Phone is on, gimme a call when you get there. :)

[Street Lethal]

i blew up my worked motor last year,so the cars had a bone stock 3.1 in it for some time now.though even on the stock engine it should still pull some nice 13 sec slips.on the other hand im almost done building a 3.3L twin turbo motor thats going into the car in april,ill be looking for low 11's or better with that setup.

Jeez-louise, time really flies. Had no idea you blew up that motor from last year. Either way, thirteen seconds from a bone stock 3.1 V6 needs to get on tape. LS1.com's event will be in a few months (preferrably Summer), so I'm sure your new engine will be in and ready to go.... ;)

Also, lemme know if you need that ignition module. When I pulled the 3.1 from the '92, it's been sitting in my garage since. I'm actually considering throwing it back in, and seeing what it will do... but I've been collaborating with a few people for the last week via e-mail, and the ProCharger for the '98 is as good as purchased.... :D

Now I need a stronger rearend, and a custom rollbar. I don't want to fabricate my own (no time), so if anyone knows where I can get strong one, with black padding wrapped around it (for a decent price), that would help out tremendously... :)

[Street Lethal]

Dave, I'm leaving now. I just left a message on your voice-mail. Hopefully you didn't try calling before to tell me that your car's not running, cuz I could have easily picked you up and take you over to the track myself. Anyways, I need coffee very very badly (and a pack of advil) lmao. See you in a few (probably get there in about 45 minutes to an hour, as first stop is White Castles. Don't ask, it's a tradition with us lol).... :D

[MikeSomething]

Street Lethal, I was at Street Wars & holy christ was there alotta Civics! I got there alil after 12pm & they were only letting in spectators so I couldn't run my car... All I saw LS1-wise were some Vettes, 2 Firebirds, & 1 Camaro (That ran 18sec)... I saw some LT1/4's that did pretty good (Mid 13's). Did you run anything?

[Boosted89rs]

me and my gf left around 12:45 and i know street lethal left the same time we did ,,though he was supposed to go back.we didnt run our car today though i was dying to,but we had some ignition system problems,were going back on wensday night to run the car though

[Street Lethal]

Street Lethal, I was at Street Wars & holy christ was there alotta Civics! I got there alil after 12pm & they were only letting in spectators so I couldn't run my car...

Hey Mike. We both left at around 12:45pm, but I came back not too long afterward with my buddy in his 07 Eclipse. I have a lot of races on video, and even more video of the pit area....

Both Dave and I were helping this one guy earlier in the day, a Black third generation Camaro (but with a body kit), that resembled "The Wraith". Guy needed help, big time, so Dave and I helped him adjust his TV cable for the tranny (was way out of whack), and also noticed he had no timing advance whatsoever. You might of seen him, he was the guy running in the 17's.... ;)

Place was PACKED even before they opened. I got there at 9:30am, but didn't get inside until 10:45 lmao. There were EVO's everywhere, with those Civics pulling in around noon. Oh my goodness was that place mobbed.... :yup:

All I saw LS1-wise were some Vettes, 2 Firebirds, & 1 Camaro (That ran 18sec)... I saw some LT1/4's that did pretty good (Mid 13's). Did you run anything?

I initially paid to race when I got in, but a lot of my friends were running late though, and I went there with the wife's car. My friend with the '95 GSX was so frustrated (he was behind me in line), I seen him back up, and pull away. I then got a text from him that he would be back once it settled down, but he came back when eliminations were just starting (I don't blame him)....

Earlier in the day, there were quite a few LS1/LS2 GTO's, a Pace Car vette, C4 vette, and plenty of old school muscle. They were destroying everything in their paths, in fact, they were the only true outlaw class there. Did you see that White 80's Porsche? The one that ran eleven seconds flat? I spoke with him later on in the day,and he was running only 10 pounds of boost. Said he'll be running here all season long, so one of our members will have their hands full with this guy.... :D

I HATE bracket racing. Although, individually, it's a good drivers test, but I just hate the concept of it. I'm a heads up guy, run what ya brung. Didn't want to come back and run my car against some fifteen second Civic, with the Civic winning because I either red-lined, or ran faster than my quoted time. My buddy ran though. He didn't win, but he threw down some decent numbers. Averaged eleven seconds for the day.... :)

Dave, the 3.1 is going back in my '92. I have an itch to build it, but I have to take my time though as my ProCharger needs to be attended to one it arrives. I'm switching to speed density on the LS1, and need to get things right, in respect to tuning, so the 3.1 will be a slow process, but will happen....

You should have ran Dave. Your car seemed ready (but then again third gear wasn't realized in the back, there was no room of course). Despite that, I just loved it when the Import crowd would gather around your car and ask questions. Way to represent! Had it been "heads up", with you actually running, I think you might have taken the outlaw class... :yup:

[Boosted89rs]

yeah the car did well in the back while messing around,but as we were leaving it fuckced up on the entrance gate road,though the car will be ready for wensday night

[MikeSomething]

Wow, yea there were Evo's, Civics, & alot of SRT-4's... Did you see the one black SRT-4 w/ the sticker of the guy pissin on the word "Evo", he's got some balls! I saw the white Porsche run but they didn't post his numbers on the board. I also hate bracket racing only because they truely aren't getting on it... I only saw people break into the 9's as I was walking up from the parking lot. Oh yea, that low 13sec Chevy Diesel truck & Hummer were freakin awesome!!

[Boosted89rs]

actually i just spoke with the gf,the only way were gonna go and run on wensday night is if those v6 guys are going so i can take a look at the 4thgen cars and talk to those guys about doing some turbo stuff.

i also need to come up with a firejacket before wensday,worst comes to worst ill try to borrow my uncles firejacket if it fits me lol

[Street Lethal]

yeah the car did well in the back while messing around,but as we were leaving it fuckced up on the entrance gate road,though the car will be ready for wensday night

... when we lined up with each other as we were leaving, I mentioned that my wife's car is stock. However (Lethal takes a quick look around the room), I have a CheaTR cam in her car, and she has absolutely no idea lol. Had the cam lying around the garage, so I just installed in there a few months back. The only other mod on that car is a lid. ;)

We'll be down there on Wednesday night, I just need to see what time I'm scheduled to work that day. If I'm scheduled late, should get there by around 8:00 - 8:30. I just got back from the store, and their are cars being trailored over there today. Too out of it for today though....

Wow, yea there were Evo's, Civics, & alot of SRT-4's... Did you see the one black SRT-4 w/ the sticker of the guy pissin on the word "Evo", he's got some balls! I saw the white Porsche run but they didn't post his numbers on the board. I also hate bracket racing only because they truely aren't getting on it... I only saw people break into the 9's as I was walking up from the parking lot. Oh yea, that low 13sec Chevy Diesel truck & Hummer were freakin awesome!!

A lot of guys were posting no times, which I also find to be so very useless (that's what Wednesday and Friday nights are for lol). That spanish guy driving the white Porsche showed me his timeslip, and that's when we started getting into boost. I have a thing against Porsche's, I HATE them. I once had a C4 Corvette, also dubbed "Street Lethal", and I lined up with this turbo Porsche once (quite a few years ago). We both completed our burn outs, and pulled up to the tree....

Announcer immediately emphasized on the loud speaker, "this Corvette is going to get his doors blown off", and I'm thinking to myself, "geeeet the *uck outta here". Suddenly, the tree dropped, the Porsche spooled, and finished with a 9.4, to my 11.3. Ever since then, I've HATED Porsche's.... :mad:

When I got back there the second time, I was mainly in the pits filming, didn't really hit the stands much. Your right though, there were a ton of EVO's and SRT4's there. What was really hilarious though, was when they started swapping announcers. The races were being described in Spanish LMAO. I felt like I was in another freaking country, for crying out loud. Was a really good time though. However, tis just the tip of the iceburg.... :yup:

[Wesman]

When I got back there the second time, I was mainly in the pits filming, didn't really hit the stands much. Your right though, there were a ton of EVO's and SRT4's there. What was really hilarious though, was when they started swapping announcers. The races were being described in Spanish LMAO. I felt like I was in another freaking country, for crying out loud. Was a really good time though. However, tis just the tip of the iceburg.... :yup:

They started announcing the races in Spanish??

Thats the point I think I would have demanded a refund and walked out. Thats ridiculous, we speak ENGLISH in this country, people can either learn it or get the hell out.

[EE1983]

They started announcing the races in Spanish??

Thats the point I think I would have demanded a refund and walked out. Thats ridiculous, we speak ENGLISH in this country, people can either learn it or get the hell out.

Wow man, I 100% agree with you. That is absurd and I would left LOL

[Street Lethal]

^ I know guys lol. It's not enough that Toyota has to be the "new" sponsor for the next couple of years here at Raceway, but must they throw in spanish speaking announcers into the mix? LMAO! :rolleyes:

[Wesman]

Wow man, I 100% agree with you. That is absurd and I would left LOL

Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way at least.

[Street Lethal]

Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way at least.

I can understand how you feel bro, and I agree with you, believe me. However, I will never let ANY group of people take me away from what I love doing most. I can guarantee you that the park did what they did, reluctantly, because it was a "street wars" event, and about fifty percent of the racers didn't understand English.... ;)

[EE1983]

Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way at least.

Its true man, I dont like this press 1 for Spanish either. Our ancestors came to this country and had to speak/learn English in order to function here. Now we are catering to Spanish speaking people. Ridiculous.

[Street Lethal]

EE, let's not even delve into that bro. I totally agree with you guys, but such a problem is way beyond Raceway Park's control, it's a political problem. Anyways, we're headed back their Wednesday for a couple of runs, anyone interested in a little test and tune session... :D ;)

[EE1983]

EE, let's not even delve into that bro. I totally agree with you guys, but such a problem is way beyond Raceway Park's control, it's a political problem. Anyways, we're headed back their Wednesday for a couple of runs, anyone interested in a little test and tune session... :D ;)


I wish, yesterday seemed like a great track day. I was stuck at work :Potty:

[Street Lethal]

I wish, yesterday seemed like a great track day. I was stuck at work :Potty:

Was really hoping to meet up with you there. Thought for sure you'd be there, but I did not come across one blue Evo lol. It was a good time nonetheless, aside from the little things mentioned. Hope my wife doesn;t read this, but DAMN, some of the chicks that were there were, well, you know what I'm getting at lol.... ;)

[EE1983]

Was really hoping to meet up with you there. Thought for sure you'd be there, but I did not come across one blue Evo lol. It was a good time nonetheless, aside from the little things mentioned. Hope my wife doesn;t read this, but DAMN, some of the chicks that were there were, well, you know what I'm getting at lol.... ;)

LOL Thats funny man. I wont be able to make it to the track until after April 17th since I work Saturdays. My car is apart anyway and I never have time to work on it (or I dont feel like it when I get home anyway)

Mike actually called me while I was at work and said he thought he saw me run so there had to be at least one blue EVO there!