No love on this site for 4 cyl

[jwindbigler]

Probably. Or at least real close.

[mrr23]

back when i had my 94 Z28, with 125 dry shot, flowtech muffler, K/N FIPK, and 1.5 roller rockers went 12.24 @ 113.90. and that was with 2.73 gears to boot. no drag radials, as they weren't available back then. so, it can be done.

[hutch1999]

sounds like you didnt even come close to spending 2 grand lol

[mrr23]

nope.

[jwindbigler]

Good job man

[jwindbigler]

Man there really is no love here for these guys. But I understand why. I was on the vw forum, and what a bunch of dumbasses. Ricer punks. They all think that they are big and bad. Well...there's no replacement for displacement. But they dont seem to get that.

[Cloud9]

Still love my nissan, the only replacement for displacement is technology.

[jwindbigler]

Technology...you mean turbo. My LS1 has plenty of technology. But no turbo. Dont get me wrong, I like the 240's. They are one of the few "ricers" that I actually like and would own. But I love my LS1, and how much torque it has.

[Cloud9]

Not just turbo but over all, weight, suspension, ect. but yes torque is one thing i cant make tons of but its enough for the size of the car. If i ownd a V8 it would have to be a LSX, great motors.

[jwindbigler]

The handling is the only reason why I would buy a 240 or an RX7

[Secret Formula]

In the past I've owned a honda civic and a nissan maxima, now I have a pontiac firebird.
I got a V8 and im never going back. Everyone else can stay in their own little 4 and 6 cylinder worlds. If it makes them happy so be it. I could care less.

[andrew rs]

The handling is the only reason why I would buy a 240 or an RX7

you can drop an LSx into an RX-7 it and have the best of both worlds.

[Wesman]

Still love my nissan, the only replacement for displacement is technology.

The LS1 has both displacement and technology.

Thats the best of both worlds.

[jwindbigler]

you can drop an LSx into an RX-7 it and have the best of both worlds.

I could...but that has been done before. If I was going to put an LSx into a "ricer". I would still keep it in the family. I would drop it into a cavalier. I havent seen anyone else do it...do I want to be the first. Yeah I know that its going to be a pain in the ass changing out the driveline. But it would be pretty badass. I just have to win the lotto now...

[andrew rs]

I just have to win the lotto now...

you and me both.

[Full Race Javier]

I agree, I dont have a problem with import cars i just cant stand people who put an exhaust and a cold air intake and some body kit and think they have a hot rod. Say you do work at full race? I work right across the street at A.E.P. (Cop car place)

yup i work here...we have a few "imports" here lol

[jwindbigler]

I wouldnt mind an import look with LSx power.

[Cloud9]

I wouldnt mind an import look with LSx power.

Either would I.

[jwindbigler]

I just wish that I had it figured out before I wasted about $6K into the body of a cavalier.

[Full Race Javier]

I wouldnt mind an import look with LSx power.

I would not mind adding a little of what i learned from building imports into my families 00 ss lol

[jwindbigler]

you seem to learn little things on how to make a car faster on an import...then transfer that knowledge to the V8 world...then realize that we were complete dumbasses for starting out with a ricer.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

you seem to learn little things on how to make a car faster on an import...then transfer that knowledge to the V8 world...then realize that we were complete dumbasses for starting out with a ricer.

:lol: You should post the pics of that stylish Caviler again!!! You got to start some where I guess. I started with trucks then moved to cars. I found my love with the T/A when I was searching for truck parts. I test drove one for the hell of it and liked it so much I bought it and kinda ditch the truck project. I still have it, but didn't finish it yet.

[jwindbigler]

and back by popular demand...the car that I started with...

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/jwindbigler/FH000021.jpg

[jwindbigler]

Now this is posing it out

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/jwindbigler/FH000011-1.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/jwindbigler/FH000018.jpg

[z28punk]

its bad, but not as bad as most.

[ATCharming]

nah, i havent seen much worse.

:lmao:, just messin with u jw

[jwindbigler]

nah, i havent seen much worse.

:lmao:, just messin with u jw

Nah...I deserve to be kicked in the nuts for that car. I put about 6K into the body and stereo. Definately "ricing" it out. All show and no go. Now, I have balanced things out. Go comes b/f show. I had to figure that one out the hard way.

[Mjolnir]

i dont think id put 410s in my 10 bolt rear end...

[Mjolnir]

Now this is posing it out

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/jwindbigler/FH000011-1.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/jwindbigler/FH000018.jpg

WAS THE SPOILER AT ALL NECESSARY?!

Explain it to me please..

[hutch1999]

WAS THE SPOILER AT ALL NECESSARY?!

Explain it to me please..

a oversized spoiler is a necessity in "ricing" a car out

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

:bravo: Thank you! The pics made my day again. :lol: The only thing missing was the colored window tint to match the car.

[jwindbigler]

:bravo: Thank you! The pics made my day again. :lol: The only thing missing was the colored window tint to match the car.

Nah...I'm not that cheezy. I did want to tint the windows dark black though. Any other tint is just too much. And yes, the spoiler was necessary. It just didnt look right without it on. But go ahead and laugh. Actually I wonder what the ricers on a cavalier forum would think. Lets just see.

[jwindbigler]

http://www.clubcav.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8067

Click on that link. I am going to have these guys think that I have a 386WHP cavalier...Lets just see how long it takes to get kicked off of this forum.

[jwindbigler]

Here is another link

http://www.clubcav.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8071

[ATCharming]

:lmao: theres even a dyno graph

[jwindbigler]

Yeah...I put up my T/A dyno on there so they would think that I had a powerful cavy.

[ATCharming]

haha wow. no replies yet tho? awwwe. well i better get to bed its 12:30 here.
ill check back tomorrow

[jwindbigler]

alright see ya later bud

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

Doesn't sound like they like you much over there!

[hutch1999]

http://www.clubcav.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8067

Click on that link. I am going to have these guys think that I have a 386WHP cavalier...Lets just see how long it takes to get kicked off of this forum.

lol they instantly called bs

[jwindbigler]

Yeah they did. Gotta photochop the dyno chart. Get that firebird out of there.

[AKIRA]

Nah...I'm not that cheezy. I did want to tint the windows dark black though. Any other tint is just too much. And yes, the spoiler was necessary. It just didnt look right without it on. But go ahead and laugh. Actually I wonder what the ricers on a cavalier forum would think. Lets just see.

I thought one of the new rice things to do was to NOT get tint so people can see the mods done to the inside of the car?

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I thought one of the new rice things to do was to NOT get tint so people can see the mods done to the inside of the car?


I have no idea. I don't keep up with what's down with the rice very much other than the obvious. I just see more and more of them with colored window tint and bright mopar green paint. Unfortunatly there's a Camaro painted that color around here too. I'm trying to find it again to get some pics.

[jwindbigler]

I thought one of the new rice things to do was to NOT get tint so people can see the mods done to the inside of the car?

I think that you are talking about the hood right?? The clear hoods show the mods.

[z28punk]

and then u got to show the stock shifter cut in half to make a short shifter. major mod there lol

[Secret Formula]

kLeaR ho0dz are 4 3UR0 TooNeRzzz LoLz!!11!

[jwindbigler]

Euro Tunerz?? I first saw them for Honda's

[Secret Formula]

you should tell those kids on the cav forum your story and maybe theyll actually listen and give up throwing money into there pieces of crap and buy real a real car. "Drop that zero and get with a hero!"

[jwindbigler]

Yeah I should.

[Secret Formula]

Euro Tunerz?? I first saw them for Honda's

I just remember seeing on some rice store site "NEW clear neon tinted hoods, give your car that euro tuner look"

[jwindbigler]

Oh well. I saw it about 4-5 years ago in Super Street magazine. I think that it was from NOPI or something.

[Secret Formula]

If there were no girls in bikinis, NOPI would just be like a gay cruise.

[jwindbigler]

No shit. I hear the cannonball run is fun though. If you have 20K just laying around

[Secret Formula]

all the good stuff always costs $$$$$$$.

[jwindbigler]

Thank you master of the obvious

[Secret Formula]

:bow:

[jwindbigler]

Dork...coming close to that 1000th post huh??

[Secret Formula]

why yes I am. Ive been doing a lot of posting without thinking. have you noticed?

[Secret Formula]

I'm not gonna do a whole thread dedicated to it like some people do though.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

WOW, 1000 post in 3 months! You post whore!!!!

[Secret Formula]

why yes, yes I am.
not a train rider, but I do the 3 word post thread now and then.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I don't ride the train to often, but I was going crazy in the 3 word post thing for awhile. I have to get back to that one again. It's stupidly fun.

[jwindbigler]

you

[jwindbigler]

mean

[jwindbigler]

like

[Secret Formula]

Yeah, and I hate writing long posts, cuz it takes me like 10 minutes to edit them to my liking.

[jwindbigler]

this??

[Secret Formula]

your getting pretty close to 1,000 as well.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

It took me forever to get my first 1k. Didn't take to long to get the next 600 though.

[ATCharming]

i got my first 1k in like 2 months lol.

rode the train on like 2 occasions for a half hour at a time

[jwindbigler]

Yeah getting close to 1K...hopefully I will hit it today

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

The way I've been going lately I'll be at 2k soon. It took me about a year for the 1st k and it'll about half that for the 2nd. I'm not even trying which I can't figure out. I guess I have more to say this year than last year.

[jwindbigler]

Heck I got onto this forum when I bought the car. It pretty much sat for a year, so I didnt get on the forum. I have only recently (within the last 3 months) gotten onto this forum. So...gotta get that average up...

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

It's impossible for me to get the average up very high. I didn't post for months when I signed up. I'm only at 4.4 per day now and that the highest I've been. I'm not on here much on the weekend though and if I'm busy I'll be off for weeks at a time. I was down to 3 for awhile.

[jwindbigler]

Well I'm at 2.17 so far.

[Pewter s10]

hey guys, anyways, i do have a four cylinder right now, i aint trying to get flamed right here, but as for now i love my 30 mpg around town, and plan on losing that very quick...

i found me an ls1 with all accessories and tranny, with 44,000 miles on the pair for 2500 bucks. i am going to take a loan out against my s10 and install it...
i am fairly new to all the bolt ons and stuff you can put on an ls1, the main reason is because i have not had the need to... i plan on running the ls1 along with shorty headers, and some minor boltons...

anyways, i dont care to get laughed at for my four banger, but it dont sound like a vacuum cleaner, but it has very little power, which i want to change...

[jwindbigler]

installuniversity.com will get you started with free mods. (Assuming that you install half the stuff anyway). Why are you going to go with shorty's?? Get a set of pacesetter LT's. Much better with power. From here, just post what you are thinking about buying, and people here will tell you if thats a good product, or we will recommend something better. Good luck with the swap. Post pics while you are doing the swap too.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I've heard with a S10 you can't have full length headers and a manual trans, but you can have them with an auto. V8's in mini-trucks are fun! There's a bad ass reg cab short-box Ranger around here with a very modded 5.0 in it that I want to run. He's got it tubbed and everything. It sounds really good.

[Pewter s10]

yeah, with an s10, you are limited in what you can use as far as parts, well, without a LOT of fabrication... so shorty headers are a go, and i am thinking that if i seal up the tranny tunnel, then cut a new hole for a shifter, you can put a stick shift into it... idk though, i still got some researching to do.

the main reason i want to do a swap is, i dont want a freakin honda motor in my chevy... plus the underlying reasons of power, as i have read you guys downplaying in a 4cyl for the last 8 pages... lol, and i am fine with that, it is pathetic

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I actually almost bought a stripped GMC Sonoma new and planned on ripping it apart and doing a LS1 stoker in it, but I decided I wanted a car yet. I could have got the truck for about 9000 new and sold the motor, trans, and rear to get some money back. I was planning on putting about 20K or so into it total.

[Pewter s10]

uh... my budjet is a little bit lower than that... like about 3 or 4k or so. just motor work here

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

You can do it cheaper, but I was going to go a bit nuts with it. I've had friends that put 350's in for about 500 bucks.

[Pewter s10]

yeah, key parts involved when doing it less than 500 bucks... carburation.. i will not have a small block in my truck unless it is fuel injected.

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

Good call.

[Pewter s10]

anyone know anywhere else i can get an ls1 cheap, used preferably, with a tranny, and engine mounts along with that, i would like to get a few back up plans...

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

Call some of your local junk yards. It's surprising what shows up in them some times. You might find a good donor car with everything you need cheap.

[67CamaroRSSS]

you seem to learn little things on how to make a car faster on an import...then transfer that knowledge to the V8 world...then realize that we were complete dumbasses for starting out with a ricer.
With me it wasn't imports (or ricers). There wasn't any such thing back in the 70's unless it was a 240/60/80Z. Plenty of 1st Gen Camaro's for cheap to play with though.

<------BTW: That's my correct age.

[jwindbigler]

Call some of your local junk yards. It's surprising what shows up in them some times. You might find a good donor car with everything you need cheap.


Thats probably going to be the best way to go

[Pewter s10]

i have also heard that you can drop the s10 body on a corvette frame that has been shortened about 6 inches... whether this works or not? i dontknow

but i found an ls1 block in the classifieds of a local forum for 1600 bucks... it is missing an intake manifold, oil pan, wiring, throttle body, and all sensors...

is it worth it? it does not include a tranny either

[jwindbigler]

Nah...try to find a doner car. There's bound to be one out there for ya.

[Pewter s10]

i been looking, but i havent found anything yet, besides the 2500 dollar 1998 ws6 camaro ls1...

i am still on the look out for other auctions.

[z28punk]

try looking at older RWD imports. like supras and RX-7's very cheap, doesnt look horrible and pretty easy to convert to an LS1

[Wesman]

try looking at older RWD imports. like supras and RX-7's very cheap, doesnt look horrible and pretty easy to convert to an LS1

Easy is a relative term my friend.

I wouldn't call custom fabrication of motor mounts, wiring, and the entire drivetrain "pretty easy" ;)

[ATCharming]

i been looking, but i havent found anything yet, besides the 2500 dollar 1998 ws6 camaro ls1...

i am still on the look out for other auctions.

wtf? 2500 dollar ls1 camaro? wait. but u sed ws6. make up ur mind

either way, an ls1 fbody for 2500 dollars? is it wrecked?

[ATCharming]

nevermind to my last post. i realize that i sound like an idiot cuz i misread it

[Pewter s10]

what i said was exactly what the guy emailed me... here is what he said...

i have one ls1 out of a 98 ws6 convertible, has 44,000 miles on it , runs great, we just pullled it out of the car, 2500.00 , and it has all the wiring computer, and all front brackets and accessories.

edit: he did say just a ws6...

[jwindbigler]

Then its a pretty good deal. See if he will throw in the transmission for an extra 1k and your in business.

[mr2fast4u]

I have been reading alot of the threads relating to imports and it makes me laugh just how ignorant some of you are concerning imports. First of all there is a big difference betwwen ricers ( people with oversized wings and fart cans that say things like " my car is the shit yo") and true enthuesist.
Right now i own 92 mr2 turbo that has 260-300whp stock with a boost controller and full 3 in exhaust. i have about $8500 in it. It sounds good, but i will admit it doesnt have that v8 rumble, it looks good, and it will outrun pretty much any stock domestic car in a straight line ( except a c6 z06, a c5 z06 is a really close race-pretty much river dependent, and i have only raced 1 ws-6 and beat him pretty bad but i think the driver was a tool) and it will own on a road coarse well now that i have pissed every1 off with my 1st post im going go

[mrr23]

well, seeing as your intent was only to start trouble, you are now gone.

[Pewter s10]

well, i admit, you can make an import fast and quick, but not many people do this... they focus more on how it sounds and looks...

yeah i did go for looks when i first got my truck... i also thought there would be more performance upgrades available for it too... i was wrong, so i went for all show no go, now i am balancing that out, so :Potty: on you... lol, sorry for the rant