thank you vin diesel

[Arrison24]

i just recently purchased a 1998 trans am ws9 stock and this extremely cocky friend [acquaintance is a better word] convinced his family to buy him an evo 8 [also stock] and he pulled the stupid crap "lets race for pinks" no i dont plan on participating in this race because i dont feel the risk is worth it. im not completely sure because im still somewhat new to the trans am world so i ask, would i beat him in a quarter mile? ...... we're both stock and my transmission is automatic

[MikeSomething]

Yes, even w/ an A4 trans you'd def have him. I have raced many, and once they are modded then they're decent competition for you. I love it when they have no clue about your car, at least you're researching theirs 1st...

[silverz28camaro]

dont do it, even though you would win, what if your driveshaft broke, or ignition coil suddenly went bad?, unless you are filthy rich dont do it,

i would bet $300 on it though, plus if mommy and daddy bought it for him do you really think you would get that car. i wouldnt want it anyway, well mayby if i sold it

my buddy thinks if he buys a subaru imprezza he will beat my camaro (12.9):denied: he is also on drugs:Puke:

[ycems779]

race, win, take that p.o.s. and sell it to do more mods !!!

[third_shift|studios]

i would never race for pinks. that's just retarded.

[jack stephen]

I love racing to PINKS on hollywood. Sure the line is long but they have great hotdogs.

[Wesman]

Its not worth racing for pinks, because like the other guys said, anything can happen. Not to mention I'm sure he would pussy out and not give you the car if you won.

I'm sure you would take him though, all you would have to do is powerbrake your car, launch it hard, floor the gas and keep 'er lit :yup:

[Too Fast]

Well...............if your A4 has a 2.73 rear gear, I think the race would be close. The best I ran with my '98 A4 2.73 was a 13.65 @ 102.8. Usually I was straining to get in the 14s, and that was with a Ram Air hood, airbox, lid and I shifted myself at 6150 RPM. Letting the car shift itself I would almost never see 13s. Now if you have 3.23 gears, you are quicker than what I did. Search this forum for decoding your door option sticker, that will tell you what RPO to look for to see your gear ratio. Oh yeah, almost all 2.73 rear gear cars have an iron driveshaft, I think the 3.23 and 6-speed cars have the aluminum driveshaft. That is a quick check. When you powerbrake to launch, don't just spin your tires, that is impressive but not quick, especially against an AWD car.

[Ripper415]

dude just flip on your "NAWS" lol....gotta fucking love the fast and the furious movies haha. according to them when you use NITROUS (nos is just a brand name) time like speeds up and the lights all zoom by like you're flying through space on the starship enterprise, retarded.

[FantaZGuy28]

You will beat him even if he launches on you, by 80mph you will pass him.

[SSmoky01]

You would beat him, but like everyone has been saying, anything could happen.

[THOMAS81Z]

Kick His Ricer Ass:ar:

[4tun8]

dude seriously c'mon who the hell races for pinks, especially when his car is worth like twice as much as yours.

what a shame, take that evo 8 and give it to me so I can love it and care for it like my other evo 8 =p

[blue02Z]

dude just flip on your "NAWS" lol....gotta fucking love the fast and the furious movies haha. according to them when you use NITROUS (nos is just a brand name) time like speeds up and the lights all zoom by like you're flying through space on the starship enterprise, retarded.

hahaha!! yea i wouldnt do the pinks thing either, to much at stake. what if your tire blew out or something. you should win but he'll proly pull you out of the hole cuz of AWD and since your still new to these cars. if you go from a roll you definately win all the way through. good luck and post results if ya'll run

[Arrison24]

yea it was very awkward... his dad said he wanted to race for pinks but i told the son id race him for like 100 and i will post results when i do. not even kidding a little bit here, the kid spends most of his time sitting in his house just watching his evo [most likely with his hands down his pants]

[4tun8]

Damn I do the same thing =(

[EE1983]

This "acquaintance" sounds like a real douche. Take his pink slip then sell it to someone can buy it themselves without their parents buying it for them.

[SRT]

Race him for pinks, I bet you can do 13.5 1/4 times. evos run like 14.9 on a good day down hill....:hahano:

[4tun8]

evos run like 14.9 on a good day down hill....

cuz they're slow ricer jap crap, i hate them and they're ugly too.







(but my rear windows are power AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA)

[jimbeans]

I think a race against a stock 98 ws6 auto and an evo would be a very good race. Stock automatic ws-6s are dogs out off the line, if the other guy takes his car to 5k and dumps that clutch he could put 2-3 cars on you before 2nd. I'd like to watch that race.

I raced a near stock 3000gt vr4 with my 02 firehawk 6 speed. That was somewhat close.

[Ws6 Love]

Race him for pinks, I bet you can do 13.5 1/4 times. evos run like 14.9 on a good day down hill....:hahano:

i dont know much about evos, but dont some run 13's stock?

[SRT]

(but my rear windows are power AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA)


its true its true nice one:cheers:

[SRT]

i dont know much about evos, but dont some run 13's stock?


Dont some run 13's stock? No way man...there lucky to get down in the 14:thinkin:

[SRT]

I raced a near stock 3000gt vr4 with my 02 firehawk 6 speed. That was somewhat close.

I used to have a stealth rt/tt, loved that car.... how close is somewhat close?

[BlackLT1Z28]

The only thing stock evo's have for them is the holeshot.

[Hurley711]

Throw a stall and some 3.73's on your car in the next month and go knock on his door and ask for that race:yup:

[KageSS]

race, win, take that p.o.s. and sell it to do more mods !!!

x2 :yup: :yup:

[Empatho]

Search this forum for decoding your door option sticker, that will tell you what RPO to look for to see your gear ratio. Oh yeah, almost all 2.73 rear gear cars have an iron driveshaft, I think the 3.23 and 6-speed cars have the aluminum driveshaft

it's on your rpo sticker on the driverside door check for one of this
GU2 = 2.73 and GU5 = 3.23

[enginjoe]

Dont some run 13's stock? No way man...there lucky to get down in the 14:thinkin:

Where have you been, under a rock? Any decently driven EVO is in the 13s stock. They have to launch off the rev limiter to do it though. This makes the stock clutch fail very quickly if repeated too often. If the guy sneaks a tune and manual boost controller in there, he could be low 13s. A non-evo savvy person would never know if he had these mods. We have a whole slew of these things on the local scene that come to the track and I've been there in person to witness. The only one I've ever seen run over 14, was the kid who didn't want to ruin his clutch launching and shifting too hard and yes he was high 14s.

[stevegrizzle]

If you race him for pinks it will be pretty tough to collect. race him for money, that way when you win he can pay you.

[Wesman]

Where have you been, under a rock? Any decently driven EVO is in the 13s stock. They have to launch off the rev limiter to do it though. This makes the stock clutch fail very quickly if repeated too often. If the guy sneaks a tune and manual boost controller in there, he could be low 13s. A non-evo savvy person would never know if he had these mods. We have a whole slew of these things on the local scene that come to the track and I've been there in person to witness. The only one I've ever seen run over 14, was the kid who didn't want to ruin his clutch launching and shifting too hard and yes he was high 14s.

Agreed. Thats pretty much what I was going to say. Without launching the car from the redline and frying the clutch, they only run high 13's/low 14's.

I'd rather not destroy my car to make it run respectable times, hell I eased off the line at 2K and still pulled 13.4 @ 106.4 :yup:

[EE1983]

Where have you been, under a rock? Any decently driven EVO is in the 13s stock. They have to launch off the rev limiter to do it though. This makes the stock clutch fail very quickly if repeated too often. If the guy sneaks a tune and manual boost controller in there, he could be low 13s. A non-evo savvy person would never know if he had these mods. We have a whole slew of these things on the local scene that come to the track and I've been there in person to witness. The only one I've ever seen run over 14, was the kid who didn't want to ruin his clutch launching and shifting too hard and yes he was high 14s.

Your suppose to launch at 5500rpm, not the rev limit (which is 7000-7500). You can still run 13s doing a mediocre launch. 14s are if you bog completely. I did a slight take off at around 3000 and eased into it and ran 12.4 :)

[MikeSomething]

I did a slight take off at around 3000 and eased into it and ran 12.4 :) Showoff!

[EE1983]

No showing off. Just the facts sir. LOL

[enginjoe]

What are your mods?

[EE1983]

Full bolt-ons (full exhaust, intake, FMIC, mbc tune) and cams.

[enginjoe]

Full bolt-ons (full exhaust, intake, FMIC, mbc tune) and cams.

That's what I was thinking. This thread was about a stock EVO, so I just wanted to clear that up. Man, I gotta get me one of these things!

[EE1983]

That's what I was thinking. This thread was about a stock EVO, so I just wanted to clear that up. Man, I gotta get me one of these things!


I know :yup:

[tonyjnjz]

nice run..whats your best time ee?

[Roastem]

i just recently purchased a 1998 trans am ws9 stock and this extremely cocky friend [acquaintance is a better word] convinced his family to buy him an evo 8 [also stock] and he pulled the stupid crap "lets race for pinks" no i dont plan on participating in this race because i dont feel the risk is worth it. im not completely sure because im still somewhat new to the trans am world so i ask, would i beat him in a quarter mile? ...... we're both stock and my transmission is automatic

It has been my experience that people who really don't want to race will ask to run for pink slips.

Usually if you call their bluff they will back off. Run for money, like 300 or so is a good wager. That way you won't have to kill anybody after the race.

[EE1983]

nice run..whats your best time ee?
A lousy 11.93 :cuss: Couldnt catch traction.

[tonyjnjz]

lmao.......u couldnt catch awd traction aye? somthin tells me u were being sarcastic.....maybe clutch traction ;)

[secondgearscratch]

remind him that he's driving a foreigner and send him back to mommy with a fried clutch.

[tonyjnjz]

driving a forigner? is that riding pedros back or somthing? lol

[EE1983]

lmao.......u couldnt catch awd traction aye? somthin tells me u were being sarcastic.....maybe clutch traction ;)

No. I have no traction in 1st gear. I had my stock clutch to 52000 miles before I replaced it with the ACT (mild street clutch). It can hold 476 ft/lbs which is way more than enough.

[tonyjnjz]

u spin all 4 tires in 1st gear with no traction??????? come on..lol.......u need some new tires if thats the case bro...theres guys on here with drag rads with 500 ft/lbs launching at 5k without traction issues ......thats gotta be fun though lighting up all 4 ..hehe

[EE1983]

u spin all 4 tires in 1st gear with no traction??????? come on..lol.......u need some new tires if thats the case bro...theres guys on here with drag rads with 500 ft/lbs launching at 5k without traction issues ......thats gotta be fun though lighting up all 4 ..hehe

Its really not uncommon sir especially with the cold weather. I actually do need some new tires, however the ones I have now are decent. (Kuhmo MX's) If I rev up and drop the clutch I smoke all 4 for a second before rocketing out and hitting the rev limiter, its pretty awesome. My 11.9 run was with a 1.82 60". My friend with an EVO was at the track same day and was cutting 1.6s so I know I can do much better. Here is a vid of him launching on the street against a Typhoon (far right lane). He spins hard in 1st as well.

http://media.putfile.com/Mike-Launching

[Wesman]

A lousy 11.93 :cuss: Couldnt catch traction.

You couldn't catch traction on a prepped track with AWD...

Wow, now I've heard it all....

[tonyjnjz]

u spin for a sec? whats wrong with that? sounds like great traction to me........i could prolly spin for several miniutes with my shitty tires...lol..somthiing has to give EE whne your dumping at 5k.........tires/clutch/tranny???? but somthing so be happy its the tires ;)

[EE1983]

u spin for a sec? whats wrong with that? sounds like great traction to me........i could prolly spin for several miniutes with my shitty tires...lol..somthiing has to give EE whne your dumping at 5k.........tires/clutch/tranny???? but somthing so be happy its the tires ;)

Yeah its the tires. Everyone hoots and hollers about abuse but if you know how to properly launch along with having a good clutch, everything will be fine. The 9 second Turbotrix EVO out of NJ is on stock transfer case and rear. They pull 1.4 60" on slicks, everything is in tact.

As for me with spinning, if I am moving in 1st gear and nail it, it grabs and spins, its not like Im sitting there smoking the tires, but realize 1st gear only goes to 40mph so it goes by fast. When at the track and launching, youre dead stopped obviously and are revving up to 5500rpm or so and with that will come more spin. I SHOULD have been able to pull a 1.65 or so but the best I could muster was a 1.82. L I dont spin as much when its hot out but I went to Atco in 40-50* weather so that didnt help along with 50% treadlife!

[tonyjnjz]

what was your mph on that 11.9 run??? be happy with your slippery tires and 11.9 time slip......thats movin bro.....and your doing it without any reliablity issues.....congrats

[Roastem]

If it was turbo'ed with AWD, I would rather have a GMC Syclone. Those trucks are still cool as hell. Never did care for the Typhoon that much, too bulky looking.

I like Evos, EE1983's Evo is sweet! My neighbor had a black one, he traded it in for a new Miata! I know right.

He came by the house when I crunk the Z up with just Longtubes, right after the head install, and revved the Miata a little with a big sh*teatin' grin on his face. I could barely hear it, sounded like a vacuum cleaner.

Then he started telling me about a supercharger install he was thinking about doing, and I am thinking to myself, "Go ahead and drop 5 grand in that rag, and you might be in the 14 sec range."

[EE1983]

what was your mph on that 11.9 run??? be happy with your slippery tires and 11.9 time slip......thats movin bro.....and your doing it without any reliablity issues.....congrats


118.00 ON THE DOT!

[tonyjnjz]

NICE...........man i wanna run ya from a roll..should be pretty close tilll we get up top...well over a 100 or so....till i get some much better tires you'd roast me off the line...even up top..118 trap is pretty dam fast

[EE1983]

NICE...........man i wanna run ya from a roll..should be pretty close tilll we get up top...well over a 100 or so....till i get some much better tires you'd roast me off the line...even up top..118 trap is pretty dam fast


Yeah we would be a great race! Those runs were on pump gas, Im going to try and get back to Atco when they open and throw some race gas in there and hopefully get a 120mph trap in there.

[Roastem]

Hey EE, what are you trapping in the 1/8th?

[EE1983]

Hey EE, what are you trapping in the 1/8th?

I think all my runs were around 90mph. Id have to check the timeslips to be exact.

[Wesman]

Running 11.9's by dropping the clutch at 5K is all well and good until you blow out the driveline on your car. Its a rally car, not a drag car, theres no way the trans, clutch, transfer case, CV shafts, or differential are built for that kind of drag strip abuse.

Have fun replacing your entire driveline, I've seen plenty of DSM's and Evos shit out their entire drivelines from that kind of abuse, espeically transfer cases and clutches. Considering the compact area that the driveline on the Evo is packed into, you can only make the components so strong due to size restraints. A T56 is probably as big as your entire trans, diff, and transfer case combined.

[tonyjnjz]

i wouldnt do it either having that fear if i owned one........that thing is fast as hell though running a 118 trap wes ;)

[EE1983]

Running 11.9's by dropping the clutch at 5K is all well and good until you blow out the driveline on your car. Its a rally car, not a drag car, theres no way the trans, clutch, transfer case, CV shafts, or differential are built for that kind of drag strip abuse.

Have fun replacing your entire driveline, I've seen plenty of DSM's and Evos shit out their entire drivelines from that kind of abuse, espeically transfer cases and clutches. Considering the compact area that the driveline on the Evo is packed into, you can only make the components so strong due to size restraints. A T56 is probably as big as your entire trans, diff, and transfer case combined.


It can handle it. The 2003-2004 EVOs had crap drivetrains (paticularly the transfer cases) which makes them suck. I have a 2005 and Mitsu got rid of the weak spider gears and put an LSD in there. They also updated the transmission with stronger synchros. DSMs are 15 year old cars that came with 200hp. No suprise they break. My car is approaching 70k miles and doesnt have a hint of problems and I doubt it will well beyond 100k. I would not say that if I had a 2003 or 2004.

Actually they are built for the abuse. Like I said before, Turbotrix's 900whp EVO runs on full stock drivetrain other than transmission, and other people like SLOWEVO from FL who has a 903whp EVO run the stock transmission. It can handle it.

What it cant handle is fools who cannot drive and dont know how to launch. For instance, some tool bag from Freehold with an EVO was telling me he was on his 4th clutch with 25,000 miles - he had 310whp. I have much more power and my original stock clutch lasted 52,000 miles. What does that say about that kids driving? AWD is not forgiving to fools who do not how to drive in general, let alone drag race.

A T56 is a great transmission. Do you happen to have any specs on the sizes of the gears and such?

[EE1983]

Also, you dont just rev up to xx RPM and literally drop the clutch. You rev up and slip it QUICKLY. That prevents drivetrain shock and allows for a solid launch. Ive been driving AWD cars since the day I turned 17. I learned how to launch them and how to NOT launch them. This is why I have a reliable car that I in a way, abuse.

Believe me, Id be the first to not want something unreliable. That is a big issue with me, and so far, my car has lived up to the expecations I gave it of handling the power and abuse Ive thrown at it, simple as that.

[Too Fast]

Running 11.9's by dropping the clutch at 5K is all well and good until you blow out the driveline on your car. Its a rally car, not a drag car, theres no way the trans, clutch, transfer case, CV shafts, or differential are built for that kind of drag strip abuse.

Have fun replacing your entire driveline, I've seen plenty of DSM's and Evos shit out their entire drivelines from that kind of abuse, espeically transfer cases and clutches. Considering the compact area that the driveline on the Evo is packed into, you can only make the components so strong due to size restraints. A T56 is probably as big as your entire trans, diff, and transfer case combined.

Kinda like our cars, eh? Our differential is not built to take much drag strip abuse, but I love the transmissions and the V8 GM put under the hood. Minor modifications and over 350 RWHP.

[RJWZ28]

I know I'm a little late to the party and all, but I have to say this. I am totally a gungho GM loyalist car freak and statistics nerd who would sell organs for an LS-car if I could, but I would never throw the title to a stock T/A on the line versus a 2005 Evo, stock though it may be. You are right, he wouldn't want to launch it at 6000 rpm every time he races, but do you really think the guy is gonna consider that when his car is on the line?!? NO! He's gonna get you off the line in a big way and unless the race goes for longer than 1/4 mile, I wouldn't bet on you catching up. At a track with slicks I might have to rethink this, but on street tires on the road, if he can shift and launch worth beans, its not worth risking your car, 'cuz that rice might eat your lunch! Even if you do everything right and nothing breaks, there is still a good chance you would lose.

[Roastem]

I think all my runs were around 90mph. Id have to check the timeslips to be exact.

Well, I trapped 97.4 in the 1/8th, and I have never run it at a 1/4 track. So by your 1/8 vs. 1/4 trap speed, could I guesstimate a 125 mph 1/4 mile trap?

[EE1983]

Well, I trapped 97.4 in the 1/8th, and I have never run it at a 1/4 track. So by your 1/8 vs. 1/4 trap speed, could I guesstimate a 125 mph 1/4 mile trap?


Thats something youre better off asking the guys in the drag racing forum. Sometimes those 1/8 mphs can be deceiving. You do have a healthy list of mods though so youre most definitely in the 122mph+ range I would say. I noticed a couple guys who went slower than me (in EVOs) had better 1/8th mphs than me though which I cant figure out. I think the best way to guess is to check out an LS1 timeslips and try and match up your 1.8mph and see what others ran in the 1/4.

EDIT: I was just checking out a timeslip database for LS1s, there were guys with 95-98mph traps running 117-125 in the 1/4 mph. So youd be in between there I guess. The only real way to tell is by going to a 1/4 track!

[Roastem]

Yeah, well my rear end is shot, so its gonna be a couple months before I will have the spare cash for a 12-bolt. Then I am gonna take it to the 1/4 in Rockingham and see what she's got.

[EE1983]

Yeah my friend has an 02 SS H/C, his stock 10 bolt didnt last very long! He has the Moser 12bolt now with some 4.10s (or 4.11s?).

[Roastem]

What 1/4 time did he bring down before his 10-bolt went kaput?

[EE1983]

What 1/4 time did he bring down before his 10-bolt went kaput?

He was running 11.60-11.70s on motor at 118-119 and broke it then. He now has a 150shot as well and runs high 10s on the juice at around 130mph. Definitely needed the 12 for that! All his track runs are on slicks.

[SRT]

Where have you been, under a rock? Any decently driven EVO is in the 13s stock. They have to launch off the rev limiter to do it though. This makes the stock clutch fail very quickly if repeated too often. If the guy sneaks a tune and manual boost controller in there, he could be low 13s. A non-evo savvy person would never know if he had these mods. We have a whole slew of these things on the local scene that come to the track and I've been there in person to witness. The only one I've ever seen run over 14, was the kid who didn't want to ruin his clutch launching and shifting too hard and yes he was high 14s.

LOL :nana:

Have you ever launched an awd car? You get a better launch sliping the clutch at around 4000rmp, never launch off the rev limiter it will bog 85% of the time. ps race him for pinks theres no way he can win.

[EE1983]

LOL :nana:

Have you ever launched an awd car? You get a better launch sliping the clutch at around 4000rmp, never launch off the rev limiter it will bog 85% of the time. ps race him for pinks theres no way he can win.

Thank you.

[enginjoe]

LOL :nana:

Have you ever launched an awd car? You get a better launch sliping the clutch at around 4000rmp, never launch off the rev limiter it will bog 85% of the time. ps race him for pinks theres no way he can win.

Yes I have launched an awd car and that's why I like them. Launching off the rev limiter was an exaggerated term to use, I know. Thanks for the drag racing slipping-the-clutch-technique lesson. :giveup:

[SRT]

Yes I have launched an awd car and that's why I like them. Launching off the rev limiter was an exaggerated term to use, I know. Thanks for the drag racing slipping-the-clutch-technique lesson. :giveup:

It does depend on the car, not all awd cars are 50%-50% or 60%-40%, I even hear on some of the newer STi's you can move power from front to back. My buddy has an 04 Sti and all it was is the intercooler sprayer, no way of moving power. But he can luanch at a higher RPM range then in the rt/tt. An awd launch done right is a blast, its always fun to put a few items up front like wallet or a few empty soda bottles and watch them go flying back on launch. An awd launch is up there with doing rwd cookies in a newly paved parking lot just a good ol time:yup:

[Wesman]

It does depend on the car, not all awd cars are 50%-50% or 60%-40%, I even hear on some of the newer STi's you can move power from front to back. My buddy has an 04 Sti and all it was is the intercooler sprayer, no way of moving power. But he can luanch at a higher RPM range then in the rt/tt. An awd launch done right is a blast, its always fun to put a few items up front like wallet or a few empty soda bottles and watch them go flying back on launch. An awd launch is up there with doing rwd cookies in a newly paved parking lot just a good ol time:yup:

Too bad hard AWD lauches destroy the clutch. Other than that I guess they are "fun" though...

At least doing donuts in a RWD cars only destroys the tires, and tires are a hell of a lot cheaper than a clutch.

[EE1983]

Too bad hard AWD lauches destroy the clutch. Other than that I guess they are "fun" though...

At least doing donuts in a RWD cars only destroys the tires, and tires are a hell of a lot cheaper than a clutch.

A good pair of wide tires out back isnt too cheap these days :yup:

Most aftermarket clutches on AWD cars can go through a serious amount of launches.

[Wesman]

A good pair of wide tires out back isnt too cheap these days :yup:

Most aftermarket clutches on AWD cars can go through a serious amount of launches.

Thats why you use crappy winter tires if you're going to do donuts. You'd be a fool to turn high performance tires into burnt rubber and smoke.

No streetable clutch can take the kind of abuse long-term that AWD launches put on them. Everytime you launch you fry the clutch. Why?? Because something has to give. Either the tires need to spin or the clutch has to slip. Its simple physics. Since neither of those things can happen with AWD, the clutch ends up burning a significant amount of friction material off of it after each run.

[EE1983]

Thats why you use crappy winter tires if you're going to do donuts. You'd be a fool to turn high performance tires into burnt rubber and smoke.

No streetable clutch can take the kind of abuse long-term that AWD launches put on them. Everytime you launch you fry the clutch. Why?? Because something has to give. Either the tires need to spin or the clutch has to slip. Its simple physics. Since neither of those things can happen with AWD, the clutch ends up burning a significant amount of friction material off of it after each run.

No you dont fry the clutch everytime you launch. If you slip it for 5 seconds you will, but there is no reason to do that. You clearly have no idea how to launch an AWD car or how anything works. Ive been driving/launching AWD cars for years, its simple and nothing has to break and you dont fry clutches. My friends EVO was at Atco every weekend for over a year with over 300 launches on it, and when he traded it in, the clutch was fine. His whole drivetrain was fine. So according to your logic, what "had to give"? Was he just another REALLY lucky one like me who has almost 70k miles with launching that nothing broke on YET? LOL

Why dont you leave this stuff up to the people who have 250-300 launches on their AWD car. Stick to what you know, which is about LS1s. K.

[Wesman]

No you dont fry the clutch everytime you launch. If you slip it for 5 seconds you will, but there is no reason to do that. You clearly have no idea how to launch an AWD car or how anything works. Ive been driving/launching AWD cars for years, its simple and nothing has to break and you dont fry clutches. My friends EVO was at Atco every weekend for over a year with over 300 launches on it, and when he traded it in, the clutch was fine. His whole drivetrain was fine. So according to your logic, what "had to give"? Was he just another REALLY lucky one like me who has almost 70k miles with launching that nothing broke on YET? LOL

Why dont you leave this stuff up to the people who have 250-300 launches on their AWD car. Stick to what you know, which is about LS1s. K.

Dude you're not going to convince anyone about how your magical Mitsbishi clutches don't ever wear out. Its IMPOSSIBLE for them not to, now stop arguring with the obvious.

"300 launches on a clutch and it was fine". Yep, I've definitely heard everything now.

I'm also not going to argue with you about Mitsubishis and how much they break, regardless of your luck and your narrow perception of what you've personally seen. Like I said a million times before, theres no possible way you can launch at 5,6, or 7,000RPM in an AWD car (or any car) consistantly without it taking its toll on the CV shafts, clutch, transfer case (and internal clutch packs), and the entire drivetrain as a whole. Stop trying to convince people that the Evo is somehow invincible to wear and tear, because anyone with any common sense isn't going to buy it anyway.

[EE1983]

Dude you're not going to convince anyone about how your magical Mitsbishi clutches don't ever wear out. Its IMPOSSIBLE for them not to, now stop arguring with the obvious.

"300 launches on a clutch and it was fine". Yep, I've definitely heard everything now.

I'm also not going to argue with you about Mitsubishis and how much they break, regardless of your luck and your narrow perception of what you've personally seen. Like I said a million times before, theres no possible way you can launch at 5,6, or 7,000RPM in an AWD car (or any car) consistantly without it taking its toll on the CV shafts, clutch, transfer case (and internal clutch packs), and the entire drivetrain as a whole. Stop trying to convince people that the Evo is somehow invincible to wear and tear, because anyone with any common sense isn't going to buy it anyway.

Sir, I think everyone here would agree it is you who are the one trying to do the convincing. Im the person whose had AWD car, who races, launches it and maintains it. You dont own an AWD car. Relax.

No car is invincible to wear and tear, no one including myself said it was.

[starcheif]

what will a stock 06 sti run in a quarter i have a stock 04 gto 6 speed just wondering i see him around town just never got a chance to race yet

[EE1983]

what will a stock 06 sti run in a quarter i have a stock 04 gto 6 speed just wondering i see him around town just never got a chance to race yet


PM'd you :yup:

[Wesman]

what will a stock 06 sti run in a quarter i have a stock 04 gto 6 speed just wondering i see him around town just never got a chance to race yet

Don't take EE's biased opinion for fact.

06's STI's run low 13's at about 102MPH under optimal conditions.

Go from a roll and murder him :yup:

[4tun8]

You're one to talk about bias'd opinions...

[mrr23]

i see this one ending shortly. at least you guys have been lots nicer in this one.