Owned by a LS1

[JHayesLS1]

Back when I was 18 I wanted a Trans-am but with no patience I bought a 1996 Mustang GT because I wanted a muscle car. I owned the civics and integra's with the enourmous cans on them I loved the car. I even ignored the fact that the factory PLASTIC manifold blew on it. And the fact my syncro's are broken, the car rattles at high speeds and shakes, the fact that it bogs in first gear with a new clutch, lets not forget the fact that its been "Found On Road Dead" 3 times now. I was beating ricers!!

Coming home from school there is this chick I see leave in a vert Trans-am and I wanted to take a peek at her so I speed up flooring the car I get to her bumper and she nails the gas and leaves me about 6 car lengths with my little piece struggling to catch up and it just wasn't going to happen :denied: . Now Im mad so I go to pick on a new RSX type S and him and I go to about 100 and he was AHEAD OF ME he was F'in AHEAD OF ME THE WHOLE TIME I DIDNT EVEN CATCH UP.

Good news is my aunt may co-sign on this 01 trans am for me. Pray for me

[toneloc60]

Good luck. It must be frustrating for you not being able to catch people on the street. Even when you're just trying to check out the driver.

Don't worry, that wont happen much if you get an LS1. After you get it, you're only a few mods away from being able to hang with about anything you'll see on a day to day basis. No more hot chicks in hot cars running away from you.

[JHayesLS1]

Good luck. It must be frustrating for you not being able to catch people on the street. Even when you're just trying to check out the driver.

Don't worry, that wont happen much if you get an LS1. After you get it, you're only a few mods away from being able to hang with about anything you'll see on a day to day basis. No more hot chicks in hot cars running away from you.

The hot chicks running from me thing probably wont change :)

[toneloc60]

You'll have that I guess.

Any pic's of this 01 you're looking at?

[JHayesLS1]

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=212138912&dealer_id=54136629&car_year=2001&model=TRANSAM&num_records=25&make3=&make2=&start_year=2001&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&search_type=both&distance=25&model3=&color3=&model2=&color2=&make=PONT&color=&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34787&advanced=&end_year=2007&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=15

thats the one

[ss~zoso~ss]

nice death.

[toneloc60]

looks nice. Good luck.

[mogs01gt]

sorry man, those 96's are fucking pathetic.

[JHayesLS1]

Oh trust me I know. I just assumed GT mustang V8 its gotta be quick. Its terrible. Performance and quality its terrible.

[craz1469]

that car already has a lid, maf, and cat back..........it may have more......congrats your about to get a 12second car.........i love auto trader thats where i found my camaro.............mine was all stock with 43,000 payed 16 for it.................jew them down a grand or 2

[craz1469]

here it is sitting on the lot.......................and the very next day

[mogs01gt]

Oh trust me I know. I just assumed GT mustang V8 its gotta be quick. Its terrible. Performance and quality its terrible.
96's sure arent

[JHayesLS1]

I have all these ambitions of doing mods to it but I don't think I can because i'll be paying on it for quite some time lol. Mogs Ford really messed up with the GT's until recently, I should of done my research first.

[jbb6811]

just be care full your going from 14-15sec to 12-13. its a big jump plus its a m6. learn to control it be for you go playing and eat a ditch! good luck!

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

I hope you got there soon enough, it shows sold on their site where all the pics are.

[redss2000]

just be care full your going from 14-15sec to 12-13. its a big jump plus its a m6. learn to control it be for you go playing and eat a ditch! good luck!

yea...mine almost died the first week i had it...and i almost needed to change my drawers:giveup:

but now its nothin....:yup:

[JHayesLS1]

FUCK!!! IT IS SOLD. nooooo my dream is shot to hell :bomb:

[JHayesLS1]

Oh sweet Jesus there is another!!

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

That other one almost looks better being lowered and looks to have more mods done to it too. The nice ones don't last to long. If you find something you need to jump on it.

[JHayesLS1]

Yeah my co-signer is way the hell in North Carolina tho. God I wish I had credit. She will be here Saturday.

[2000pontiac6]

what if u just got a cheaper one? 18 grand is lot for an fbody these days

[00BlkConvt]

Good luck. It must be frustrating for you not being able to catch people on the street. Even when you're just trying to check out the driver.

Don't worry, that wont happen much if you get an LS1. After you get it, you're only a few mods away from being able to hang with about anything you'll see on a day to day basis. No more hot chicks in hot cars running away from you.

What kind of mods do you suggest?

[00BlkConvt]

what if u just got a cheaper one? 18 grand is lot for an fbody these days

Mine was 16,000 and I used a $2,000 car trade in for it. So basically $14,000. You can find Autos very cheap if that's your thing. I HATE automatics, so I deffinetly prefer to pay more for 6spd.

[Roastem]

Yeah my co-signer is way the hell in North Carolina tho. God I wish I had credit. She will be here Saturday.

I was told by Jeff at Carolina Auto Masters that there is something up with the electronics on 97-98 LS1's, something about them being hard to tune. For best value, I would look at a 99-02 Z28 or Formula. But, if you can't live without an SS or WS6, then go for it, but you will pay extra, on yearly taxes and initial price.

Don't be scared of mileage. Mine had 88K on it, full bolt-ons, and gears, got it for 8K. I have done many doughnuts, took it to the track several times, and a sh*t-ton of street racing. I pulled old nitrous wiring out when I put a new CD player in it. She has been abused, then I laid down abuse for another 12K miles.

Result? Not a drop of oil anywhere, not a single tick, purrs like a kitten, no smoke whatsoever. When I put the heads on it a couple months ago, there was little, if any, wear on the cylinders. Gotta love that LS1.

The rear-end has crapped on me twice though, why does there always have to be a catch?

[RJWZ28]

I have an LT1 and have still never had any trouble passing anyone I want! Chip, filter, exhaust, shift kit, and posi and boy does she go! I've done 148 mph like its nothing and the only guys to even challenge me were one guy in a 1995 Z28 (with my buddy in the car I just about ran him over with him starting first, no room to pass) and another guy in a Saleen S351, whom I didn't get to find out an outcome. But seriously, the average car on the street can't compare to any f-body with more than 300 horsepower. It's an awesome feeling.

[Raoul-Duke]

Oh trust me I know. I just assumed GT mustang V8 its gotta be quick. Its terrible. Performance and quality its terrible.

u have no idea how many misinformed people i meet thinking the same thing...and when i tell them how fast our 4th gens are they just look at me like " yyeeaah"...ive seen a 5spd 3.8liter i/e v6 camaro beat an auto 97gt ahahah....imagine how pissed you woulda been if that happened to u

[JHayesLS1]

I got beat by a RSX-type S. Thats low enough.

[Raoul-Duke]

I got beat by a RSX-type S. Thats low enough.

lol, you would be surprised bout those cars....my friend had one with full exhaust, intake, header, hondata and ivtech....which lets it rev bout 1k higher and had a second v-tech kick in.....from a roll he chirped all three gears....he hung with my buddy's ls1 neck and neck from a roll till the ls1 hit third and slowly pulled away...u have to remember they weigh under 3000lbs....

[Raoul-Duke]

I have an LT1 and have still never had any trouble passing anyone I want! Chip, filter, exhaust, shift kit, and posi and boy does she go! I've done 148 mph like its nothing and the only guys to even challenge me were one guy in a 1995 Z28 (with my buddy in the car I just about ran him over with him starting first, no room to pass) and another guy in a Saleen S351, whom I didn't get to find out an outcome. But seriously, the average car on the street can't compare to any f-body with more than 300 horsepower. It's an awesome feeling.

with a chip and i/e...u dont have 300rwhp in a lt1 buddy

[Roastem]

He might have been talking about fwhp. (fly-wheel-horse-power)

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

lol, you would be surprised bout those cars....my friend had one with full exhaust, intake, header, hondata and ivtech....which lets it rev bout 1k higher and had a second v-tech kick in.....from a roll he chirped all three gears....he hung with my buddy's ls1 neck and neck from a roll till the ls1 hit third and slowly pulled away...u have to remember they weigh under 3000lbs....

That must be a one of a kind motor. The vtech changes to a second cam profile. I don't think you can have 3 of them.

[Raoul-Duke]

That must be a one of a kind motor. The vtech changes to a second cam profile. I don't think you can have 3 of them.

yeah i think it kicks the second one in earlier er sumtin...im no v-tech expert,lol....just from what i recall him saying...im might have misunderstood him though, but it was sick from a roll

[Hot Black Trans-Am]

yeah i think it kicks the second one in earlier er sumtin...im no v-tech expert,lol....just from what i recall him saying...im might have misunderstood him though, but it was sick from a roll

I know there is a 3 stage one, but I don't think it made it's way to the US yet. I had a S2000 and when the Vtec kicked in at about 6500 rpm's it was almost like hitting a nitrous button. The power kicked way up and the sound of motor was like hitting high blend on a blender. That was only a two stage. 1st for normal driving and 2nd for high rpm.

[0rion]

3stage vtec (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=question229.htm&url=http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/index.html)

[tonyjnjz]

the vtec kicks in EARLIER there isnt a 2nd one..LOL...my car before this one was an 03 rsx-s.......there 2600 lbs....quick car but no comparison to an ls1.....with the mods described above.....intake,exhaust,hondata your talking about 225-230 horse ...nothing spetacular......they dont take to mods like an ls1....honda pushed them nearly to there limits out of the factory....even when strapping a jackson racing supercharger to one your only taking 260-270 horses with full bolt ons as well.....would take that much in mods just to KEEP up with a completely stock ls1`.........i never did and never would race an ls1 in my rsx when i owned it...would just be stupid.....got my ass handed to me by an integra type r from a highway roll though.....lol....doing abotu 130 this guy all of a sudden walked the shit out of me ..we were nearly even till that point......nitrous?????? hehe

[tonyjnjz]

oh those cars handle like gocarts though........i could throw the lil fucker around at willl all the way to its limit IN control...........wish i could push my z to its limit in the same way and not worry about dieing

[Roastem]

I know the feeling. That thing is a little sketchy at high speeds.

[Raoul-Duke]

the vtec kicks in EARLIER there isnt a 2nd one..LOL...my car before this one was an 03 rsx-s.......there 2600 lbs....quick car but no comparison to an ls1.....with the mods described above.....intake,exhaust,hondata your talking about 225-230 horse ...nothing spetacular......they dont take to mods like an ls1....honda pushed them nearly to there limits out of the factory....even when strapping a jackson racing supercharger to one your only taking 260-270 horses with full bolt ons as well.....would take that much in mods just to KEEP up with a completely stock ls1`.........i never did and never would race an ls1 in my rsx when i owned it...would just be stupid.....got my ass handed to me by an integra type r from a highway roll though.....lol....doing abotu 130 this guy all of a sudden walked the shit out of me ..we were nearly even till that point......nitrous?????? hehe

i think a 2600lb car with 260-270hp to the ground can take a stock ls1 that weighs 800 more lbs and has only bout 40-50 more hp

[tonyjnjz]

ever heard of tourqe steer????? was bad at STOCK levels...and its not nearly as aerodynamic as the z....and a STOCK z is closer to 350 flywheel horse compared to the 260-270.........a stock 6 speed ls1 would take it hands down......off the line AND top end ..and thats with 5k plus worth of mods to the rsx with NO supporting mods

[tonyjnjz]

oh and it was 2700 lbs......have u owned one????

[Raoul-Duke]

ever heard of tourqe steer????? was bad at STOCK levels...and its not nearly as aerodynamic as the z....and a STOCK z is closer to 350 flywheel horse compared to the 260-270.........a stock 6 speed ls1 would take it hands down......off the line AND top end ..and thats with 5k plus worth of mods to the rsx with NO supporting mods

oh and it was 2700 lbs......have u owned one????

take it easy man...like i said my friends rsx with the stated mods hung neck and neck till third gear in the ls1....and this ls1 wasnt stock, lid n lt headers...it was a 6spd too....after third the ls1 pulled n pulled

[tonyjnjz]

alright alright im sry :yup: got a lil excited there.....hard to fathom my old rsx even with a blower on it keeping up with an ls1....got rid of it for a reason :D ....anythings possible right..what does your friend have done to his??

[JHayesLS1]

I freakin am finally going down to the lot next week to get a 2000 WS6. Thank you Jesus!! Its taken long enough

[Roastem]

OK steps for LS1 ownership young Paduwan..

1. Get it!

2. Mod it!

3. Don't wreck it!

[JHayesLS1]

Actually its like
1) Get it!
2) Pay it off!
3) Mod it!
4) Don't wreck it!


One more thing, my friend has a 06 STI and he swears he will eat me alive. Will the WS6 take him? All it has is SLP lid and LM.

[Roastem]

I don't know dude, I heard those new STI's are pretty damn fast stock. If he has mods, he might be in the 12 sec. range easily.

Race him from a roll, especially since you haven't raced your car a lot. If it's an M6, then you will have traction issues with stock tires in first and second. Up to 60 mph it will spin like mad with stockers.

I would run him up to at least 120 or 130, so if you are slipping and sliding at the beginning, you still will have time to run him down. I think 100 plus is usually LS1's home field advantage. (I know, its Superbowl time)

[JHayesLS1]

He went 12.9 at the track...that car is a beast for a 4 banger.

[Roastem]

Oh damn, race him from a 30 mph roll and don't let off till 130, you should put a couple car lengths on him. But you will prolly be neck and neck at around 90 mph, then you will pull him like a choked chicken.

[JHayesLS1]

Lol at that speed I'll just take your word for it I have no business going that fast.

[Roastem]

You say that now... ;)

Then the speed bug will corrupt your brain and all you will think about are AFR heads, big ass cams, and prochargers will dance on your eyeballs while you are trying to sleep!

haha

[BlueByU-SS]

hey hey now the kids got a point.... let him feel it out.. its amazing how these cars pick up speed after a hundred or a hundred n forty for that matter.. i hope your good at drivin a stick otherwise youll be into a new tranny in no time.. trust me they're like glass until ya build em up.. especially if its pre-2001 the synchros some sort of graphite or plastic.. but ill second roast em.. its comin more speed is gonna be your main topic:yup:

[JHayesLS1]

hey hey now the kids got a point.... let him feel it out.. its amazing how these cars pick up speed after a hundred or a hundred n forty for that matter.. i hope your good at drivin a stick otherwise youll be into a new tranny in no time.. trust me they're like glass until ya build em up.. especially if its pre-2001 the synchros some sort of graphite or plastic.. but ill second roast em.. its comin more speed is gonna be your main topic:yup:


Hell Im financing alot of money (to me) Im getting a 01-02 Black, 6 speed. I won't settle for anything else.

[RJWZ28]

To clarify, yes I meant engine horsepower, not rwhp; I figure between 320 and 340 at the crank, nowhere near an LS1 with the same mods, but fun just the same! The car is for sale, but if I keep it forced induction and a forged stroker are in the future for sure! There's something to be said for modding your first performance car, and i'd like to be able to say that I made my power with the same basic engine that came in the car, instead of swapping to the newer Gen III/IV smallblocks.

[RJWZ28]

oh and totally don't race that STi from a stop, do it from at least 35-45 mph, I can't punch it below 30 mph with my shift kit, rear gear and little mods, and if I race from a stop I don't hook up 'til I pass 40 mph. LT1s have more torque off the line (peak torque is at lower rpm) but the LS1 will have more guts and even less traction; you'll get spanked unless you take that STi into the triple digits!

[JHayesLS1]

Man yesterday at the auction a 98 white Trans am came through non WS6 and auto, car was immaculate....70k miles...sold for 6 thousand. If it had been a stick i would of been a fellow LS1 owner, I'll buy my WS6 hood later, Im sick of waiting for my Trans am lol. My bud with the STI just rear ended someone because he was trailing them to close, so its out of action for a while, Monday is another day at the auction wish me luck!

[Roastem]

Don't get a 97-98 LS1 powered car if you can help it. The guy at Carolina AutoMasters, who tunes these things all the time, said there was something up with the electronics and they were hard to tune. Get a 99-02 F-bod if possible.

[NiteRiderWs6]

u have no idea how many misinformed people i meet thinking the same thing...and when i tell them how fast our 4th gens are they just look at me like " yyeeaah"...ive seen a 5spd 3.8liter i/e v6 camaro beat an auto 97gt ahahah....imagine how pissed you woulda been if that happened to u

my friend gas as 96 GT that he thinks is fast..has headers,exhaust and gears...it has the loudmouth on it so its very loud and people think its fast when really its not...well my other friend has a saturn ion redline with just a pulley up grade and he beat him and hes like what...noo thats not possible..im like yea bro it is..

[JHayesLS1]

I have a 96 GT right now, I have been beaten by a RSX type S. Actually I cant race anything right now because my drive shaft is busted and my Gas tank has sprung some holes recently. Ford = :ahh:

[Roastem]

Damn, as if gas mileage wasn't bad enough its leaking like a sieve to boot!