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dafaic
11-08-2006, 07:36 PM
Coming into town and a new black vette was in front of me. I haven't had the car long but i know my cars fast. Previous owner stated he raced an 02 z06 and beat it and the car has run 7.8 in the 1/8ths. Anyway I ride his tail till we get to the other side of town on the highway and he floors it and it takes off. We are doing about 70. I throw it from 6th to 3rd and nail it. At no point in time did he ever get over 4 cars lengths on me and I ran it till 140 mph. I wish I didn't have to shift so he didn't geta big jump on me but I think he was shocked that i kept up like i did. He slowed down and gave me a nod and waived. I was pretty happy overall I didn't win but then I didn't expect to hold my own at all either! lol Now from a lite it would be a drivers race but i figured on the highway i would have been left sitting in the dust.

Mach1Mustang
11-08-2006, 10:31 PM
I have never heard of an 06 running a 7.8, esp. not an auto.

breakparts
11-09-2006, 11:52 AM
WOW YOUR LT1 BEAT AN 02 ZO6----i would call bullshit but an lt4 would have a chance on the street- if the zo6 was stock and couldnt drive

Hot Black Trans-Am
11-09-2006, 12:21 PM
:bs: If that your car could beat an Z06 it shouldn't have any problem with a stock C6.

dafaic
11-09-2006, 12:43 PM
Well what I am saying is I was told my car has run a 7.8 in the 1/8th. I was also told the car beat a older z06 and it was no highway run like this. It was at a street light and they ran it upto like 90 if i remeber the story right. Anyway all i was saying was i thought i did pretty good. I felt like if we had done a 3 honk and go we would have been side by side the whole time. Anyway not trying to stir crap up. But i wanted to say my car held its own against a brand new vette on the highway. I would expect my car to beat it from a strat but like i said on the highway i figured different.

breakparts
11-09-2006, 01:57 PM
I Agree- Your Car Would Have A Better Chance Off The Line-but The Ls2 Whoops Ass Up Top-unlike Your Lt4 The Stock Ls2 Can Churn Past 6200 Rpm And Still Want More

dafaic
11-09-2006, 05:03 PM
Added my sig so yall could see what i have. Thats why I was saying breakparts i felt like the car held it's own. I expected to get left in the dust on the highway. Oh and there is other stuff the car has but i ran out of sig room.

jasonisdn
11-09-2006, 07:15 PM
WOW YOUR LT1 BEAT AN 02 ZO6----i would call bullshit but an lt4 would have a chance on the street- if the zo6 was stock and couldnt drive

yeah god forbid his car not be stock, then your statement would mean nothing, ops guess your thought ( especially the way you phrased it) is worth nothing. with the setup hes got i'd guess with a decent tune around 350's rwhp or so. 7.8's should be doable for him. you cant look at a car and ASSUME its stock, if thats your mind set , you haven't been around the scene long at all.

7camaro7
11-10-2006, 09:02 AM
:bs: If that your car could beat an Z06 it shouldn't have any problem with a stock C6.

base c6s have 400 02 z06s have 400 or 405, so what's the difference?

Mach1Mustang
11-10-2006, 09:58 AM
dont know. But i ran an auto c6 on the street and beat him by a half car. If you have run a 7.8 then you should have beat him. If not someone is telling you some lies.

jasonisdn
11-10-2006, 10:26 AM
base c6s have 400 02 z06s have 400 or 405, so what's the difference?

there should be a weight differance, off the top of my head, but i am to lazy to look for the stats.

7camaro7
11-10-2006, 10:32 AM
yea, I bet that's true also

Hot Black Trans-Am
11-10-2006, 10:32 AM
base c6s have 400 02 z06s have 400 or 405, so what's the difference?

That's what my point was. If his car can beat a Z06 he shouldn't have lost to a base C6.

Mach1Mustang
11-10-2006, 10:44 AM
i think that the zo6 cam is a bit different, the peak numbers are the same or close but the area under the curve is different.

dafaic
11-10-2006, 10:44 AM
yeah an older zo6 would be lighter than a new c6 for sure. And i keep saying it but on the highway i felt like the corvette prolly has more to it. I was told this car put down 375 without nos and 425 with nos. No nos running now I have to get a bottle and test the soilnoids first. The 7.8 in the 1/8th was done with nos. The previous owner beat the zo6 without the nos. I know more information is quiet helpful. The previous owner has not given me any reason to doubt him or to think he is lying. He has been very truthful from the begginning told me what needed to be done, what hasn't been done, and what needed attention. I will have the dyno sheets soon so i'll know more. I just felt like if the new C6 is suppose to have 400 ponies and my car has put down 375 and for me to hang with him considering weight differences, auto vs tranny, rear end gearing, driver weight since I am a big guy, and so fourth I think the car held it's own at 140mph. I also had a really bad vibration I think i need to turn the driveshaft over which is an ls1 driveshaft. I prolly out weigh the previous owner 150-200 lbs also. Cam will be doing a mail order tune for me as soon as i get the flow #'s for the heads and i get the ls1 ws6 style ram air hood and ram air intake installed.

Mach1Mustang
11-10-2006, 10:45 AM
yea, I bet that's true also

was that aimed toward me? In fact i had a passanger and we went from a 50 roll to well over a hundred. Plus i knew the guys that were behind me that saw the whole thing.

Hot Black Trans-Am
11-10-2006, 11:13 AM
It just doesn't sound right unless the guy he raced was a bad driver or your car is now messed up or that C6 wasn't stock. Either way your car shouldn't have beat one that should be faster and lost by 4 to the one that should be slower. I guess odd things can happen though. If I were you I'd be looking your car over to make sure nothing is wrong with it.

Raoul-Duke
11-10-2006, 11:42 AM
yeah those must be le1 heads on there....but still u should have... like stated before should have at least 350rwhp...im guessing with a tune be more round 370...if not u all ready have one...im thinking there must be sumtin wrong with ur car or u were shiftin too early cuz u should def not have lost by four cars...maybe two or a lil less i can see, but four?

dafaic
11-10-2006, 12:05 PM
Well it wasn't like we honked and both took off either. I was cruising in 6th when he floored it and when his back bumper got to my front bumper or a little bit farther I down shifted into third. Hell by the time i was off the clutch he was atleast a length ahead of me and already had his momentum going. And yeah i catch myself short shifting as i don't want to hit the rev limiter. Ive only driven the car about 100 miles since I have had it so I got alot of learning and figuring out the querks of my car. The car sits in the garage most of the week and I tool around sometimes at night or maybe a little drive through town... Man i was just happy my car hung with a vette on the highway thats was the whole point of the post. This is by far the fastest car I have ever had. I have had a typhoon and an 04 Impala ss that ran 13's (only ones worth mentioning) so for me to have a car that hung with a vette I was happy. Was not trying to stir a bunch of crap up. I wanted a 12 second car and thats what i bought. If it beats a vette on the highway great if not oh well but i still have a respectable 12 second car.

GottaHaveLS1
11-10-2006, 12:33 PM
That's what my point was. If his car can beat a Z06 he shouldn't have lost to a base C6.

Agreed.

Hot Black Trans-Am
11-10-2006, 12:39 PM
Well it wasn't like we honked and both took off either. I was cruising in 6th when he floored it and when his back bumper got to my front bumper or a little bit farther I down shifted into third. Hell by the time i was off the clutch he was atleast a length ahead of me and already had his momentum going. And yeah i catch myself short shifting as i don't want to hit the rev limiter. Ive only driven the car about 100 miles since I have had it so I got alot of learning and figuring out the querks of my car. The car sits in the garage most of the week and I tool around sometimes at night or maybe a little drive through town... Man i was just happy my car hung with a vette on the highway thats was the whole point of the post. This is by far the fastest car I have ever had. I have had a typhoon and an 04 Impala ss that ran 13's (only ones worth mentioning) so for me to have a car that hung with a vette I was happy. Was not trying to stir a bunch of crap up. I wanted a 12 second car and thats what i bought. If it beats a vette on the highway great if not oh well but i still have a respectable 12 second car.

I know your not trying to stir nothing up, but I don't like people getting screwed over by people selling cars saying what they beat and didn't. After you posted this it's more clear that you just didn't drive it to it's full potential. If you were on your game then yeah it should have been different. Start driving that thing more and be ready for next time!

dafaic
11-10-2006, 12:56 PM
I know your not trying to stir nothing up, but I don't like people getting screwed over by people selling cars saying what they beat and didn't. After you posted this it's more clear that you just didn't drive it to it's full potential. If you were on your game then yeah it should have been different. Start driving that thing more and be ready for next time!


Thank you for the concern and I can see that. And yes i think with more driving and practice things can be different. I really wanted an auto but couldn't pass on the deal i got so now i gotta learn how to drive the car. There is alot more to it than just punching the gas with a manual. LOL

ttadriver
11-12-2006, 11:16 AM
I believe the 01-04 zo6's transmissions have shorter gearing vs the C6. Also one must consider what year auto c6 we are talking about. The newer auto c6's have 6 speeds which should improve the higher speed roll races vs the 4 speed overdrive autos they replaced.

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powermad
11-12-2006, 02:58 PM
I believe the 01-04 zo6's transmissions have shorter gearing vs the C6. Also one must consider what year auto c6 we are talking about. The newer auto c6's have 6 speeds which should improve the higher speed roll races vs the 4 speed overdrive autos they replaced.


:yup:

7camaro7
11-13-2006, 09:35 AM
was that aimed toward me? In fact i had a passanger and we went from a 50 roll to well over a hundred. Plus i knew the guys that were behind me that saw the whole thing.

nah, I was talking about the weight difference.

dafaic
11-13-2006, 01:59 PM
THANKS GUYS TTA and power, I felt like it was a decent death as well. And i forgot about the new ones having the 6speed auto I am sure that makes a world of difference for them on the highway!

preston1980
11-21-2006, 01:16 PM
Weight differance is minimal. 2002 ZO6= 3115 pounds 2005 C6= 3180 pounds
Also the first 4 gears in the 2 cars are identical. One has 405 horsepower and one has 400. They should be close to one and other, if they are both 6 spped cars. ET's for the cars in magazines are similar. 12.6 to 12.8 for both cars.

But for some reason the ZO6 always seems to be faster on the street??:dunno: :think: :screwy:

Mach1Mustang
11-21-2006, 10:52 PM
It has to do with the cams!!!!!

dafaic
11-22-2006, 09:25 AM
Finally got the dyno sheet and the car put out 351.8 at the wheels and 349 trq 2 years ago. He pointed to a rpm range where the line got really wavy and said he had to replace the optispark as it was malfunctioning. So with a 10% drive line loss thats about 390 at the wheels. There has been about 10k-15k miles put on the car since the dyno.

There were 2 other dyno runs on the sheet both with nos one was 391 and the other was 414.

So i need to get a bottle and get that up and running!

I am going to send the pcm off to CAM next week and then install mikronite 4.10 gears, a boa-fx.com ram air hood and an intake off a 97' ws6 and i should definitly be over the 400 mark with that.

So it is very highly possible that the guy in that z06 didn't know how to drive and that makes me feel even better about my death!