Killed a C6 and a Mustang GT yesterday....

[SOMSS]

Got both of them coming out of a toll booth on the Sawgrass. It was all over by the time I hit 6500 in second gear. The C6 was about 6-8 car lengths behind and the Mustang was so far back I couldn't really tell how many car lengths behaind he was.

[shady milkman]

wtf 6-8 car lengths behind huh? thats alot ..i'm pretty sure the c6 wasnt racing then.

[Hurley711]

wtf 6-8 car lengths behind huh? thats alot ..i'm pretty sure the c6 wasnt racing then.

Agreed:yup:

[YoMommasTA]

was that you in the ss? dam i was on it hard and even tried a 200 shot to catch you!

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

Well he does have a H/C bolt-on ls1 with suspension...I can see it from a dig.

[cailey37]

I'd have to agree that the Corvette wasn't racing.......

[SpeedAddict38]

I'd have to agree that the Corvette wasn't racing.......

you were not there u dont know...take the man for his word

[SpeedAddict38]

Got both of them coming out of a toll booth on the Sawgrass. It was all over by the time I hit 6500 in second gear. The C6 was about 6-8 car lengths behind and the Mustang was so far back I couldn't really tell how many car lengths behaind he was.

nice ride man

[SOMSS]

Thanks, I've been working in her since I got her brand new.

[SpeedAddict38]

Thanks, I've been working in her since I got her brand new.

u cant go wrong having a 01 SS :yup:

[cailey37]

you were not there u dont know...take the man for his word

It's not a matter of taking his word for it.....it's a matter of what the C-6 is capable of.....there is no way you could pull 6-8 lengths on one when you only have about a 40hp advantage.......he would of had to miss a shift or....like I said....he wasn't racing......

[YoMommasTA]

:nana: It's not a matter of taking his word for it.....it's a matter of what the C-6 is capable of.....there is no way you could pull 6-8 lengths on one when you only have about a 40hp advantage.......he would of had to miss a shift or....like I said....he wasn't racing......
:nana:

[nightstalker50]

It's not a matter of taking his word for it.....it's a matter of what the C-6 is capable of.....there is no way you could pull 6-8 lengths on one when you only have about a 40hp advantage.......he would of had to miss a shift or....like I said....he wasn't racing......

lol that reminds me of some jackass i used to roll with he would swear that he out ran all kinds of cars that were way faster than his. i guess he didnt think it was important to let the other guy know they were racing

[KageSS]

lol that reminds me of some jackass i used to roll with he would swear that he out ran all kinds of cars that were way faster than his. i guess he didnt think it was important to let the other guy know they were racing

I agree. :yup:

[YoMommasTA]

:nana::nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:

[Hurley711]

It's not a matter of taking his word for it.....it's a matter of what the C-6 is capable of.....there is no way you could pull 6-8 lengths on one when you only have about a 40hp advantage.......he would of had to miss a shift or....like I said....he wasn't racing......

40 hp advantage would be negated also somewhat by the fact that the C6 is lighter by a few hundred pounds also. 6-8 seems a little extreme

[cailey37]

40 hp advantage would be negated also somewhat by the fact that the C6 is lighter by a few hundred pounds also. 6-8 seems a little extreme

True......

[AKIRA]

You raced out of a toll both? Thats begging for negative attention. And if you didnt care, maybe the C6 did and thats why he didnt give it full throttle.

[nightstalker50]

nice #s on the rwhp .. maybe one of these days i will buy a lsx powered car and mod the hell out of it.... its too hard to decide between an lsx or a 03 -04 cobra. i just read and article in MM&FF where they bolted a turbo ,xhaust and fuel system to an 03 cobra and got 847 rwhp and 789 ft lb tq it does not get much easier than that

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

Still sounds believeable to me...410rwhp f-bod with suspension mods vs a c6 with 360-370rwhp with independant rear from a dig/slow roll.

SOMSS knows his car or at least I hope he does since he's the original owner...doubt the c6 guy has even looked under the hood:lol: If the c6 wasn't racing he would've been a hell of a lot farther back then 6-8 lengths against a 400+rwhp car...sorry.

[SpeedAddict38]

It's not a matter of taking his word for it.....it's a matter of what the C-6 is capable of.....there is no way you could pull 6-8 lengths on one when you only have about a 40hp advantage.......he would of had to miss a shift or....like I said....he wasn't racing......

ask any real racer...whether u win by an inch or a mile winning is winning.....whether the other car has 40 more or less hp......u must not have much race experience. heck when I was a teen I drove a 2.2 Dodge Charger, out run the cops and lots of other faster cars. Can you say, " OUT DROVE SOMEBODY " ??? Just because someone has a faster car doesnt mean they will win. People that post kill stories on here if they do lie there is little satisfaction for them , if it is not true. Take their word and show some racing respect.

[cailey37]

ask any real racer...whether u win by an inch or a mile winning is winning.....whether the other car has 40 more or less hp......u must not have much race experience. heck when I was a teen I drove a 2.2 Dodge Charger, out run the cops and lots of other faster cars. Can you say, " OUT DROVE SOMEBODY " ??? Just because someone has a faster car doesnt mean they will win. People that post kill stories on here if they do lie there is little satisfaction for them , if it is not true. Take their word and show some racing respect.

ok....you're right...he just killed it.....he went thru a toll booth and as soon as he got thru it he nailed it.....not worrying about the attendants who have radios right there that can call the Florida Highway Patrol to let them know that they have a street racer coming right at them and he's driving a Camaro.....nope you're right....he killed it. Reminds me of the time I beat Tony Stewarts race car by um.....oh hell it must of been by miles......I passed him like he was standing still.......now....what I just said was true....BUT....what I failed to tell you was that it was locked safely in his team hauler going down the interstate as I passed him.......but according to you.....I beat it right......

This doesn't have anything to do with being a "real racer" as you put it. I believe I've had my share of it....I grew up around it. I've either raced cars, built cars, or hell....if it had wheels I raced it. So, I understand what a "real racer" is. Yes it's true that if you win by an inch it's a win....but to sit there and think you could get 6-8 car lengths on a C-6 is a little much with only 400rwhp....I know several that would love to prove otherwise....

[SpeedAddict38]

ok....you're right...he just killed it.....he went thru a toll booth and as soon as he got thru it he nailed it.....not worrying about the attendants who have radios right there that can call the Florida Highway Patrol to let them know that they have a street racer coming right at them and he's driving a Camaro.....nope you're right....he killed it. Reminds me of the time I beat Tony Stewarts race car by um.....oh hell it must of been by miles......I passed him like he was standing still.......now....what I just said was true....BUT....what I failed to tell you was that it was locked safely in his team hauler going down the interstate as I passed him.......but according to you.....I beat it right......

This doesn't have anything to do with being a "real racer" as you put it. I believe I've had my share of it....I grew up around it. I've either raced cars, built cars, or hell....if it had wheels I raced it. So, I understand what a "real racer" is. Yes it's true that if you win by an inch it's a win....but to sit there and think you could get 6-8 car lengths on a C-6 is a little much with only 400rwhp....I know several that would love to prove otherwise....

anyone who street races pretty much throw out the worrying thing until the race is over.....congrads on the #20 kill his is an ass-hole.....anything can happen during a race. line me up with tony stewart if u pull 6 on him reguardless of the reason then I smoked smoke. You miss my point....the fastest car doesnt always win

[cailey37]

anyone who street races pretty much throw out the worrying thing until the race is over.....congrads on the #20 kill his is an ass-hole.....anything can happen during a race. line me up with tony stewart if u pull 6 on him reguardless of the reason then I smoked smoke. You miss my point....the fastest car doesnt always win

I understand that the fastest car doesnt always win but I think you're missing my point.....to get 6-8 lengths on a car is huge! To say you beat a C-6 by that amount and your car is only making 400hp tells those of us that race that something just wasn't right.....I dont think the Corvette would be too quick to nail it right after he went thru a toll booth......maybe he didn't know he was racing......lol

[YoMommasTA]

:nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw::nana:

[shady milkman]

ask any real racer...whether u win by an inch or a mile winning is winning.....whether the other car has 40 more or less hp......u must not have much race experience. heck when I was a teen I drove a 2.2 Dodge Charger, out run the cops and lots of other faster cars. Can you say, " OUT DROVE SOMEBODY " ??? Just because someone has a faster car doesnt mean they will win. People that post kill stories on here if they do lie there is little satisfaction for them , if it is not true. Take their word and show some racing respect.

calm down vin desiel...its not a race if the other car isnt racing.

[cailey37]

calm down vin desiel...its not a race if the other car isnt racing.

Vin Desiel....now that's funny

[SpeedAddict38]

I understand that the fastest car doesnt always win but I think you're missing my point.....to get 6-8 lengths on a car is huge! To say you beat a C-6 by that amount and your car is only making 400hp tells those of us that race that something just wasn't right.....I dont think the Corvette would be too quick to nail it right after he went thru a toll booth......maybe he didn't know he was racing......lol

maybe this will settle it...I WISHED I HAD A CORVETTE ! LOL i know that if nothing goes wrong the vette blows by no problem

[SpeedAddict38]

Vin Desiel....now that's funny

I was wondering when that was coming lol..i love that line in the movie

[cailey37]

maybe this will settle it...I WISHED I HAD A CORVETTE ! LOL i know that if nothing goes wrong the vette blows by no problem

I wish I had one to......wife reminds me all the time I could of had one if I hadn't sunk all this money in my car now.....lol...

You know....it's funny......no one has even doubted the part of the mustang in all this....lol

[shady milkman]

You know....it's funny......no one has even doubted the part of the mustang in all this....lol

:lmao: so true.

[SOMSS]

You gentlemen seem to know my inner thoughts and how I drive. I assure you the C6 (who was right next yo me) nailed it before I did. I not only have about 50 RWHP advantage but also about 65 RWTQ and about 750 more rpm to play with. I certainly did not endanger anyone getting to 90 mph as fast as I could. Have any of you driven a stock C6? I have and I can tell you my car is at least 1 second faster to sixty, how many car lengths in a 1 second lead. I could be wrong about the exact length but not by much. Before I did my H/C I was able to hold a C6 from a roll to 120 mph, now it's just plain easy to pull away from them. Chose to believe what you will.

[shady milkman]

You gentlemen seem to know my inner thoughts and how I drive. I assure you the C6 (who was right next yo me) nailed it before I did. I not only have about 50 RWHP advantage but also about 65 RWTQ and about 750 more rpm to play with. I certainly did not endanger anyone getting to 90 mph as fast as I could. Have any of you driven a stock C6? I have and I can tell you my car is at least 1 second faster to sixty, how many car lengths in a 1 second lead. I could be wrong about the exact length but not by much. Before I did my H/C I was able to hold a C6 from a roll to 120 mph, now it's just plain easy to pull away from them. Chose to believe what you will.

:thinkin: so 50rwhp and 65tq diff going up to 90 is going to give you all those lengths but w/e hey if it is true good kill..but you cant be suprised that people think your bullshitting

[SpeedAddict38]

You gentlemen seem to know my inner thoughts and how I drive. I assure you the C6 (who was right next yo me) nailed it before I did. I not only have about 50 RWHP advantage but also about 65 RWTQ and about 750 more rpm to play with. I certainly did not endanger anyone getting to 90 mph as fast as I could. Have any of you driven a stock C6? I have and I can tell you my car is at least 1 second faster to sixty, how many car lengths in a 1 second lead. I could be wrong about the exact length but not by much. Before I did my H/C I was able to hold a C6 from a roll to 120 mph, now it's just plain easy to pull away from them. Chose to believe what you will.

i believe u ...nice kill

[ibanez7]

40 hp advantage would be negated also somewhat by the fact that the C6 is lighter by a few hundred pounds also. 6-8 seems a little extreme



agreed!

[articz28]

Good kill...

[SOMSS]

Thanks. I wouldn't even mentioned the Mustang GT except that he was goadding me on pacing next to me going down the road. I just thought I'd show him not to mess with Camaros/Firebirds. I only do this maybe once or twice a year, usually going through toll gates since it's not illegal to accelerate rapidly to the speed limit (70). I will be going to the track sometime soon, so we'll se what she does..

[cailey37]

You gentlemen seem to know my inner thoughts and how I drive. I assure you the C6 (who was right next yo me) nailed it before I did. I not only have about 50 RWHP advantage but also about 65 RWTQ and about 750 more rpm to play with. I certainly did not endanger anyone getting to 90 mph as fast as I could. Have any of you driven a stock C6? I have and I can tell you my car is at least 1 second faster to sixty, how many car lengths in a 1 second lead. I could be wrong about the exact length but not by much. Before I did my H/C I was able to hold a C6 from a roll to 120 mph, now it's just plain easy to pull away from them. Chose to believe what you will.

Hey...if you say it happend so be it......we weren't there so we can't say....BUT.....you have to understand where some of the guys are coming from....I mean, I read this and I can't help but say something doesn't add up.....because I look at it like this.....you said he was right beside you and nailed it right.....well, I'm guessing that whole process took about 2 seconds to take place......it would take a person's mind another good 1 to 2 seconds to provide a reaction....aka...grab for a gear and go.....I mean we're talking about a good 3-4 seconds that he would of had on you and in racing that's an eternity!! Just can't see someone making that up with only a 40hp advantage....besides....it's the torque that wins the race and he would of had more if not the same as you.......so to make that up would of been a undertaking....and then to beat him by 6-8 lengths?????? Can you see how someone could say something just didn't add up??? BUT, like I said....we weren't there so.............

[SOMSS]

Hey...if you say it happend so be it......we weren't there so we can't say....BUT.....you have to understand where some of the guys are coming from....I mean, I read this and I can't help but say something doesn't add up.....because I look at it like this.....you said he was right beside you and nailed it right.....well, I'm guessing that whole process took about 2 seconds to take place......it would take a person's mind another good 1 to 2 seconds to provide a reaction....aka...grab for a gear and go.....I mean we're talking about a good 3-4 seconds that he would of had on you and in racing that's an eternity!! Just can't see someone making that up with only a 40hp advantage....besides....it's the torque that wins the race and he would of had more if not the same as you.......so to make that up would of been a undertaking....and then to beat him by 6-8 lengths?????? Can you see how someone could say something just didn't add up??? BUT, like I said....we weren't there so.............

You actually think that a C6 has 395 ft lbs of torque at the rear wheels. I seriously doubt that, I have about a 60 RWTQ advantage and as you said It's torque that wins the race.

[cailey37]

You actually think that a C6 has 395 ft lbs of torque at the rear wheels. I seriously doubt that, I have about a 60 RWTQ advantage and as you said It's torque that wins the race.

Umm...yea...I do.....GM seriously under rates those things for a reason......

[SOMSS]

Not on their best day, I have dyno'd several C6's and not one had more than 330 RWTQ or more than 338 RWHP stock. The LS2 in not overated very much at all. The LS1's in the F-Bodies were seriously underated and the C5's had about 360 hp but so did the F-Bodies.

[ss~zoso~ss]

:shitstorm:

:lock:

[cailey37]

Not on their best day, I have dyno'd several C6's and not one had more than 330 RWTQ or more than 338 RWHP stock. The LS2 in not overated very much at all. The LS1's in the F-Bodies were seriously underated and the C5's had about 360 hp but so did the F-Bodies.

hey....it's your story......but I assure you....the C-6's are way under rated! Dont know what kind of dyno you're talking about but I can show you some here that get way better numbers....I would bet you any amount of money on that one and I'm not a gambeling man unless I know 100 percent that I'm gonna win.

[ibanez7]

its not really a measure of being underrated or overrated.

Its a change in marketing, with 4thgen f-bods GM posted RWHP, with new cars they post crank HP. Which is fine because the general masses dont know the difference!

[ibanez7]

Not on their best day, I have dyno'd several C6's and not one had more than 330 RWTQ or more than 338 RWHP stock. The LS2 in not overated very much at all. The LS1's in the F-Bodies were seriously underated and the C5's had about 360 hp but so did the F-Bodies.



what kind of dyno? and I hope your talking about ls1 having 360 crank HP!

[shady milkman]

this thread makes my head hurt !

[jbb6811]

its hard to bs guys that have been here a long time and have raced almost every thing out there. the fact is the story is just that, a story and you have to make your best call. fact or fiction. the best way to prove your story is true................GET IT ON TAPE.
i would say bs....just my two pennys.

[Roastem]

I can believe it. I put 3 car lengths on an LS2 GTO at the end of the eighth. He trapped 92 mph too! Left his ass, and I only got 404 whp, vs. the 05 GTO's what, like 360 whp stock?

And spun through second... :hide:

[shady milkman]

I can believe it. I put 3 car lengths on an LS2 GTO at the end of the eighth. He trapped 92 mph too! Left his ass, and I only got 404 whp, vs. the 05 GTO's what, like 360 whp stock?

And spun through second... :hide:

diff is your lighter alot lighter actually, now a c6 is hella light and only going to 80-90..to put 8 lengths seems bs to me..now yea i can easily believe he beat him..but the lengths is were i cry bullshit.

[Roastem]

diff is your lighter alot lighter actually, now a c6 is hella light and only going to 80-90..to put 8 lengths seems bs to me..now yea i can easily believe he beat him..but the lengths is were i cry bullshit.

Yeah, the GTO's are a little porky.

You guys have to take "car lengths" with a grain of salt. A guesstimate is just that, an estimate. Prolly 3-4.

I wasn't there! Don't take my bullshit for anything other than what it is! haha

You can't bullshit a bullshitter! :)

[shady milkman]

Yeah, the GTO's are a little porky.

You guys have to take "car lengths" with a grain of salt. A guesstimate is just that, an estimate. Prolly 3-4.

I wasn't there! Don't take my bullshit for anything other than what it is! haha

You can't bullshit a bullshitter! :)

lol very true.

[breakparts]

My Uncle Has A Bone Stock C6 Automatic---with All Bolt Ons I Would Give Him A Slow Walk In Each Gear...never To End Up At More Than A Car Length Ahead---i Can Believe You Beat Him ....and He Probly Gave Up When He Figured This Out, Thus Giving The Hella Car Length Idea......

[SOMSS]

That indeed may have been the reason for the extra car lengths.

[breakparts]

Happens Alot......the More Expensive Car Dudes Will Run Em....but Once They Start To Lose They Cant Bear To Keep Trying And Keep Looking Stupid........so They Drop Back With Tail Between There Legs

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

hey....it's your story......but I assure you....the C-6's are way under rated! Dont know what kind of dyno you're talking about but I can show you some here that get way better numbers....I would bet you any amount of money on that one and I'm not a gambeling man unless I know 100 percent that I'm gonna win.

The LS2 isn't underrated...neither was the C5 vette. The LS1 was only underrated in the f-bods, that's why f-bods dyno the same or higher(due to solid rear) then the C5 vettes. Why would GM underrate thier flagship vette....they wouldn't.

[cailey37]

The LS2 isn't underrated...neither was the C5 vette. The LS1 was only underrated in the f-bods, that's why f-bods dyno the same or higher(due to solid rear) then the C5 vettes. Why would GM underrate thier flagship vette....they wouldn't.

One reason.....insurance.....and not having to pay a gas guzzler tax....ok that's two....I assure you....go to the dealer drive one to a dyno and watch what happens........

[breakparts]

Yup Its True ^^^^^^^

[shady milkman]

almost all high performance engines are underrated..the LSx line is no exception..as stated its insurance reasons..but gas guzzler has nothing to do with hp or tq rating..its mpg...the only reason why ls2s acheive that is the skip shift and i believe the cylinder shutoff..i cant remember if the c6's ls2 has that...but yea its deff an insurance issue...GM and ford have been doing it for YEARS!! also i heard that the ls1 wasnt actually underrated..it was a change of engine messurments ..they moved from rwhp to crank hp...but i've only heard one person say that so i'm not sure if its true.

[breakparts]

they said my year makes 310 hp---rwhp would be closer

[shady milkman]

they said my year makes 310 hp---rwhp would be closer

not quite following you..if your talking about gm? there is a large engine build tolerance so it could be a marketing thing to take the biggest possible build tolerance to up the rating but thats assuming that the guy was right about the rwhp vs fwhp

[breakparts]

IM JUST SAYING-when i bought my car i thought it had 310 fwhp and i was like danm that feels like more than that.......i see why they did it but its kidnd a freebie...LIKE WHEN YOU TELL A CHICK YOUR ONLY PACKIN 6 INCHES AND SHE PULLS IT OUT AND ITS BIGGER...there like o-gooodie

[shady milkman]

lol :lmao: cant go wrong with the generic 6 inch when packing more

[Roastem]

Better to underrate than overrate!

[Tonik]

:nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw: :nana: :seesaw:

+1

:nana:

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

One reason.....insurance.....and not having to pay a gas guzzler tax....ok that's two....I assure you....go to the dealer drive one to a dyno and watch what happens........

Really...well if the c5 vettes are underrated then tell me why they dyno exactly what they should for 345 bhp. They usually dyno between 290-315rwhp...yup that would be around the factory rating given that they have a independant rear.

I'm not sure who you have for auto insurance but my rate doesn't change based on hp. It has more to due with cubic inches, at least with my company. With my isurance the rates are the same for a SS or Z28...yet they're rated different. I also had a 89 iroc that I paid more per month for then my ls1 (partly due to age, but my accident on my record now more then compensates for that)...yet the iroc was a dog at 210hp on a good day.

And like the other guy said...hp/tq ratings has nothing to do with the gas guzzler tax.

[sdavis2702]

nice kills man. last time i raced from a toll booth i got hit with a ticket :(

[cailey37]

Really...well if the c5 vettes are underrated then tell me why they dyno exactly what they should for 345 bhp. They usually dyno between 290-315rwhp...yup that would be around the factory rating given that they have a independant rear.

I'm not sure who you have for auto insurance but my rate doesn't change based on hp. It has more to due with cubic inches, at least with my company. With my isurance the rates are the same for a SS or Z28...yet they're rated different. I also had a 89 iroc that I paid more per month for then my ls1 (partly due to age, but my accident on my record now more then compensates for that)...yet the iroc was a dog at 210hp on a good day.

And like the other guy said...hp/tq ratings has nothing to do with the gas guzzler tax.

How many of them have you seen Dyno'd?

Do you know how Insurance companies come up with their rates? Age of the driver, driving record, Car Specs, Replacement Part Costs, and finally classification (sports car, sedan, and such) They go off what the manufacture puts out there.

Now....for the gas guzzler tax thing......yes I know it's based on MPG and yes that's manipulated by the manufacture.. It's based on the average MPG the car company puts out there. The horsepower rating, the MPG, anything about the car is put out there by the manufacture. Remember a few years ago when all the car companies were offering zero percent interest on their cars? My wife and I purchased an 03 Trailblazer at the time it costs $28K. You could even look at the Kelly Blue Book and it was listed right at the same price. Now, fast forward to today and you can purchase a 06 for less!! It's even listed in Kelly Blue Book for less.....It's all a racquet! They put out there exactly what they need to be out there at the time! Not trying to argue here but I didn't say what I said just to hear myself type.....look it up for yourself......

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[cailey37]

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Guess I'm too old to understand that.....

[breakparts]

Lol^^^^