Killed two 2006 evo 9's in one night!

[BlwnCamaro]

My car is a 98 Z28 ls1 6 speed, 3.42 geared rearend stock,
with a lid, free mods, pro 5.0 shifter, smooth bellows,
weld in flowmaster muffler with stock exaust and cats. In other words mostly stock with few bolt ons, but seems to be a factory ringer as I consistantly outrun other fbodies and C5 vettes and have gone 1 and 1 with three different C5 generation Z06 vettes, sounds crazy but is true, my car surprises me sometimes.

First race was with a white evo 9 06 model. Raced from a second gear roll until the top of third and had to shut down we were dead even. Raced from a first gear roll until mid of third and were dead even again! Finally we came to a light together and ran a dig. He pulled on me from a dig by about a car and a half but by top of third i was walking him down and by 4th I pulled on him by a car and he shut it down. Awesome close races.

Second evo was a silver evo 9 also 06 model. We raced from a second gear roll and he pulled on me a little and by third i made up a half car and we were even and had to shut it down. We went second gear roll on 3 honks and he started to pull on me by a car but I shifted third and made up some ground and hit fourth and was catching him and by mid fourth I put about a half car on him! These were very close high speed races. This evo seemed a little quicker than the other as i couldn't pass him until mid fourth gear.
Me and this guy pulled over and talked he was cool and was impressed with my car and I was pretty impressed with his also. He was describing how the new evo's like his have a bigger 20G turbo instead of the 16G in the evo 8. I was pretty impressed as thats the first evo's I got to run in my ls1. They are fast cars.

[stevegrizzle]

nice kill.

[third_shift|studios]

moral of a story: imports need a blower to hang

[ss~zoso~ss]

or a turbo :)

[AKIRA]

My car is a 98 Z28 ls1 6 speed, 3.42 geared rearend stock,
with a lid, free mods, pro 5.0 shifter, smooth bellows,
weld in flowmaster muffler with stock exaust and cats. In other words mostly stock with few bolt ons, but seems to be a factory ringer as I consistantly outrun other fbodies and C5 vettes and have gone 1 and 1 with three different C5 generation Z06 vettes, sounds crazy but is true, my car surprises me sometimes.

First race was with a white evo 9 06 model. Raced from a second gear roll until the top of third and had to shut down we were dead even. Raced from a first gear roll until mid of third and were dead even again! Finally we came to a light together and ran a dig. He pulled on me from a dig by about a car and a half but by top of third i was walking him down and by 4th I pulled on him by a car and he shut it down. Awesome close races.

Second evo was a silver evo 9 also 06 model. We raced from a second gear roll and he pulled on me a little and by third i made up a half car and we were even and had to shut it down. We went second gear roll on 3 honks and he started to pull on me by a car but I shifted third and made up some ground and hit fourth and was catching him and by mid fourth I put about a half car on him! These were very close high speed races. This evo seemed a little quicker than the other as i couldn't pass him until mid fourth gear.
Me and this guy pulled over and talked he was cool and was impressed with my car and I was pretty impressed with his also. He was describing how the new evo's like his have a bigger 20G turbo instead of the 16G in the evo 8. I was pretty impressed as thats the first evo's I got to run in my ls1. They are fast cars.

I am confused. Did you make up these lengths or did you make up ground AND had these lengths in front of him?

The 06's turbo is bigger than the 16G, but its not quite a 20G.

[breakparts]

OK DUDE I GIVE YOU MAD PROPS FOR WINNING AND KEEPING YOUR HEAD ON....but dude mod that pig and then NEVER repeat that last sentence

[jomo]

Hey it's true they are fast cars. There are other cars out there that are fast too.

Look at this way. If they were all slow then you would have nothing to race or not even try. When I race I want to race a car that will give me a good go not one that I know I will beat every time.

No fun if there is not a chance you could lose. What is the sense of racing a big winged honda civic with stickers all over it with a muffler and intake that you can pull bus lengths on?? I would rather race a evo because it would be a better race.:usa:

[stevegrizzle]

they are high 11 sec cars with just boltons. seriously dude just bc its not an ls1 doesnt mean it doesn't have potential.

[unnatural aspirations]

If Its So Danm Easy To Get To 11's Go Buy One Bitch

[foit3]

it be nice to have a factory freak. i know a kid with a evo 8 with turbo back exhaust that runs his mouth about how he'd hand me my ass. but the unforunate thing is were i live its getting cold and my car is about to go in storage so i cant run him till the spring. i asked him to run from 1st gear roll and hes was like no my turbo wont be spooled. he pissed me off so i went off on him saying awd is training wheels 4 people that cant lauch and hes car isnt crap without that turbo ect... i hate import owners that talk the talk but wont walk the walk...and he lost to a turbo interga that i killed by 3 lengths

[breakparts]

Dude ,they Dont Ever Learn By Guys With Facts---the Only Way They Will Learn Is If They Make A Fast And Furiouse Movie Where An Ls1 Smokes Them All Day-----then They Might Notice They Really Are Slow

[EE1983]

moral of a story: imports need a blower to hang

You mean turbo... But yeah, youre right, 122cubic inch 4 cylinders do need forced induction to keep up with 346ci motors. Kinda makes sense ya know :yup:

Dude ,they Dont Ever Learn By Guys With Facts---the Only Way They Will Learn Is If They Make A Fast And Furiouse Movie Where An Ls1 Smokes Them All Day-----then They Might Notice They Really Are Slow

Dude grow up, seriously. Those movies are completely retarded and only a bottom percentage of ricer clowns actually watch them, enjoy them, and think they have any hint of reality included in them.

While there are some real clowns who have cars like EVOs, the majority are cool and down to earth people just like some who own LS1s, and other cars. More than 1/2 of my car friends drive domestics, and we all get along fine and no one disrespects anybody elses cars... unless they have an all motor Honda :ughlaugh:

[Wesman]

Nice kills man.

Don't ricers know not to mess with LS1's on the highway though?? :Pow:

AWD 4 bangers can come off the line strong, but they lost steam quickly. Theres no replacement for displacement.

Run the same Evo from 100MPH, you'll see what I mean. You'll walk him like he's going backwards :yup:

[oneBADDz]

Nice kills man.

Don't ricers know not to mess with LS1's on the highway though?? :Pow:

AWD 4 bangers can come off the line strong, but they lost steam quickly. Theres no replacement for displacement.

Run the same Evo from 100MPH, you'll see what I mean. You'll walk him like he's going backwards :yup:
Not all 4 bangers are created equal, look at my Sig, my car fuckin runs and there is an Evo8 here that from a roll is side by side with me as high as we wanna take it, at 100 he is still there, exhaust, boost controller, and intake. Off the line I suck it like a two dollar whore, they are BAD ASS cars. I've never been more impressed with a little car like that than the night me and him raced. They deserve respect. He runs a 12.1 and he's still on the stock turbo. I'm normally on the LS1 side in these conversations, but the Evo deserved crazy respect. Anybody that says any different hasn't ran one

[BlwnCamaro]

I am confused. Did you make up these lengths or did you make up ground AND had these lengths in front of him?

The 06's turbo is bigger than the 16G, but its not quite a 20G.

Yea In the races that I got a little behind I made up the lost ground and pulled a length ahead of them, but it took awhile to gain that, they were very good close races. I was super happy that my car came on in the top end and won the races.:yup:

[BlwnCamaro]

OK DUDE I GIVE YOU MAD PROPS FOR WINNING AND KEEPING YOUR HEAD ON....but dude mod that pig and then NEVER repeat that last sentence

Thanks man, but they are fast cars I knew they were but just never ran one until now. I'm a big chevy fan though and don't worry I've got a bad ass heads and cam iron block 6.0 litre i'm building on the side right now and a ford 9 inch with 4.56's so I should have most imports covered with that. The fastest evo around here has big turbo, nitrous, drivetrain, and full exaust and tune and runs 11.80. And i'm gonna take him down next. He was supposed to race me against my 11 second stroked and supercharged 3rd gen Camaro but he pussed out and didn't show last time!:flex:

[EE1983]

The fastest evo around here has big turbo, nitrous, drivetrain, and full exaust and tune and runs 11.80.

:ughlaugh: Thats like a H/C N20 LS1 running 12s. There are stock turbo, drivetrain, no nitrous pump gas EVOs that run 11.80s... are you sure he has all that stuff to run a whopping 11.80?

[EE1983]

Run the same Evo from 100MPH, you'll see what I mean. You'll walk him like he's going backwards :yup:


Run him from 100mph? Did I catch that right?

[jacobyb]

Some people need to learn about turbo cars, especially those that are set-up for turbo's from the factory. You have no idea how easy and inexpensively you can get massive power gains. Cylinder count not withstanding, give respect where it is due.

[stevegrizzle]

If Its So Danm Easy To Get To 11's Go Buy One Bitch

You need to go get some counceling, there is no reason why you need to get so worked up over someone else having a fast car.

[toneloc60]

I test drove an EVO 9 MR. Damn nice cars. I couldn't figure out how to launch the damn thing though. I was holding the RPMs at 6000 and dumping the clutch. All I got from it was a bog and then a take off. What's the trick?

[stevegrizzle]

rev limiter and slip the clutch, you want a little tire spin to save the drivetrain.

[EE1983]

I test drove an EVO 9 MR. Damn nice cars. I couldn't figure out how to launch the damn thing though. I was holding the RPMs at 6000 and dumping the clutch. All I got from it was a bog and then a take off. What's the trick?


You have to slip it for a second to get the car moving then release the clutch fully and stay hard on the gas. Its much different than launching RWD or FWD.

[toneloc60]

I gotcha. I thought that was a car you'd dump. My bad. I have to slip it on my car too. Even the factory clutch in the EVO is touchy. I give props to you guys that can launch it. It would take me much more practice.

[EE1983]

Yes it does take practice for sure. In my 6 years of driving 5 of them have been with AWD turbo cars

[ttadriver]

:ughlaugh: Thats like a H/C N20 LS1 running 12s. There are stock turbo, drivetrain, no nitrous pump gas EVOs that run 11.80s... are you sure he has all that stuff to run a whopping 11.80?


The elevation in Las Cruses, NM is approx 4000 feet. If you correct the 1/4 time to sea level, you would reduce your time by 1 sec.



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2004 MB E500
1997 Viper GTS B/W
1989 Turbo Trans am hardtop

[jacobyb]

I test drove an EVO 9 MR. Damn nice cars. I couldn't figure out how to launch the damn thing though. I was holding the RPMs at 6000 and dumping the clutch. All I got from it was a bog and then a take off. What's the trick?

If the car was brand new, you may have also been cooking the clutch.

[BlwnCamaro]

Exactly what my response was gonna be. The air out here sucks, its pretty hard to go fast out here as the density altitude is weak, exactly about a second slower than sea level. If you got an 11 second car out here pending traction ability its gonna be a solid ten second ride at sea level!

The elevation in Las Cruses, NM is approx 4000 feet. If you correct the 1/4 time to sea level, you would reduce your time by 1 sec.



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2004 MB E500
1997 Viper GTS B/W
1989 Turbo Trans am hardtop

[EE1983]

The elevation in Las Cruses, NM is approx 4000 feet. If you correct the 1/4 time to sea level, you would reduce your time by 1 sec.

Well that explains it :)

[shady milkman]

You need to go get some counceling, there is no reason why you need to get so worked up over someone else having a fast car.

:lmao: no kidding..i bet he punches himself alot too..needs to take up something to calm him down

[Z28er]

Your car even as a "ringer" could only run approx 12.7 @111mph at best. The pro drivers in the 1998 Camaro in HighTech only ran 12.98 @110...these were pro drivers don't forget! Most fast '98-'02 Camaro's run 13.0 @ 110....and these are few and far btwn! How can your car beat an 11.8 second car? That is like saying you can beat my car with me running 150 wet shot. There is no possible way a basically stock '98 can beat an 11 second car....this is not possible. Something is missing from the story....have you ever run your car in the quarter?

Not mad, just don't know what you are doing to be that fast? Is it a hard top, power nothing 1LE version that is only 3300lbs? If you have some secret as to how you are beating 11 second cars, I want to know it so I can change my driving techniques!:yup:

Rich

[EE1983]

Your car even as a "ringer" could only run approx 12.7 @111mph at best. The pro drivers in the 1998 Camaro in HighTech only ran 12.98 @110...these were pro drivers don't forget! Most fast '98-'02 Camaro's run 13.0 @ 110....and these are few and far btwn! How can your car beat an 11.8 second car? That is like saying you can beat my car with me running 150 wet shot. There is no possible way a basically stock '98 can beat an 11 second car....this is not possible. Something is missing from the story....have you ever run your car in the quarter?

Not mad, just don't know what you are doing to be that fast? Is it a hard top, power nothing 1LE version that is only 3300lbs? If you have some secret as to how you are beating 11 second cars, I want to know it so I can change my driving techniques!:yup:

Rich

Maybe he means when he gets in his heads/cam?

[BlwnCamaro]

Your car even as a "ringer" could only run approx 12.7 @111mph at best. The pro drivers in the 1998 Camaro in HighTech only ran 12.98 @110...these were pro drivers don't forget! Most fast '98-'02 Camaro's run 13.0 @ 110....and these are few and far btwn! How can your car beat an 11.8 second car? That is like saying you can beat my car with me running 150 wet shot. There is no possible way a basically stock '98 can beat an 11 second car....this is not possible. Something is missing from the story....have you ever run your car in the quarter?

Not mad, just don't know what you are doing to be that fast? Is it a hard top, power nothing 1LE version that is only 3300lbs? If you have some secret as to how you are beating 11 second cars, I want to know it so I can change my driving techniques!:yup:

Rich

You must have not read all the posts, I didn't say that my ls1 was beating 11.80 cars. I beat two stock 2006 model EVO 9's in my kill post, one of which ran a 13.2 at 4000 feet. The Evo that I referred to later in the thread is modded and runs 11.80's at 4000 feet altitude on nitrous, drivetrain, turbo ,exaust and tune. His car will beat my ls1, but I had called him out against my 383 vortech supercharged third gen camaro that runs 11.5 at 128 at 4000ft altitude on pump gas and everyone was talking trash and he showed and made excuses and wouldn't run, than he was supposed to meet me the next day and didn't show!

Plus yea I ran my ls1 stock on street tires at no problem raceway at sea level in louisiana and ran a 12.90 at 110 but the car stock was slower here in las cruces. Now as stated earlier I did all free mods, exaust, pro 5.0 shifter, smooth bellows and mti lid and dont have track times yet with bolt ons but have been beating some pretty fast cars on the street and could probably pull off mid 12's in the quarter at sea level with the few bolt ons. Plus i've got a heads and cam iron block 6.0 im building on the side thats gonna be nasty with rectangal port LS7 style heads and MS4 cam.
But driving helps alot, i've never been beat in my 98 ls1 against any other stock or lightly modded ls1 fbodys.

[stangereater]

Not to change conversation but my friend has a WRX Sti built all to hell and it reall don't matter bottom end top end what ever. He has walked many Vettes on the top. Like 120 plus of course it is built all to hell. If you throw enought money at a Pinto it can have a hell of a top end anyway. Granted stock for stock a stock LS1 will pull most any AWD up top.

[stevegrizzle]

Your car even as a "ringer" could only run approx 12.7 @111mph at best. The pro drivers in the 1998 Camaro in HighTech only ran 12.98 @110...these were pro drivers don't forget! Most fast '98-'02 Camaro's run 13.0 @ 110....and these are few and far btwn! How can your car beat an 11.8 second car? That is like saying you can beat my car with me running 150 wet shot. There is no possible way a basically stock '98 can beat an 11 second car....this is not possible. Something is missing from the story....have you ever run your car in the quarter?

Not mad, just don't know what you are doing to be that fast? Is it a hard top, power nothing 1LE version that is only 3300lbs? If you have some secret as to how you are beating 11 second cars, I want to know it so I can change my driving techniques!:yup:

Rich

I dont think there are STOCK ls1's that trap that high. I was under the impression that we are trapping around 105 stock.

[EE1983]

I dont think there are STOCK ls1's that trap that high. I was under the impression that we are trapping around 105 stock.


I was under the impression depending on tranny type, year and such that the LS1s can trap as low as 105-106, and up to 109-110... 111 being a complete ringer of the bunch

[stevegrizzle]

I think it depends on your defintion of stock. :dunno:

[Z28er]

auto's run around 103-106....6spds run 108-111 stock. Maybe I missed a post or two, but I hear you....I never use to lose either in my 4.10 LS1...maybe my gears gave me what I needed, but my bud with a 4.10 WS6 versus my Camaro 4.10's were dead even up over 100mph. Mine was a '99 and his was a '00. Best I ran with 4.10s, cat back, lid, and ftra was 13.25@109.2mph, and believe me, I was fast! This was on a 2.1 60ft.

Good luck running your car....I know driving is a big part of the time slip you recv!

Rich

[dr.dan]

I test drove an EVO 9 MR. Damn nice cars. I couldn't figure out how to launch the damn thing though. I was holding the RPMs at 6000 and dumping the clutch. All I got from it was a bog and then a take off. What's the trick?

I did also and didn't have that problem. I just floored it and dumped while keeping my right foot planted. I do the same thing with my colt, works like a charm.

[Vega]

Hell yea take those sons-of-bitches out, good kills!

[Red Chevy]

As I was reading this post about LS1's vs. AWD turbo 4 cylinders, I noticed some of you were getting a little upset and sensitive about a car giving an LS1 a run for the money. For as much as I love my '02 SS, I'm in an '02 SS because I dont have the money for a nice CarreraS (4 cylinder turbo motor's), a Porsche for you inbred's that dont know what a Carrera is. An LS1 is a working man's sports car, meaning you are phuckin' broke. Or your daddy bought you the car. For all the mustangs you beat, and honda's with a wing and muffler, you still drive a low end sports car. Here's what you do, next time you see a nice Porsche or hell even a nice Vette pull next to it on the highway and pop that shit. And if they got the nuts, you'll get your ass handed to you. Oh yeah and if your bitch is into you for your car, she'll leave with the guy in the Porsche. And why be concerned about racing light to light, race state to state. Phuckin' children!

[KageSS]

I just don't get this i ate rice kill shit. Can you help me out please, i'm just a little slow ghey ferry. When you can brag about killing a c5, c6 a GOAT and shit like dat, then more power to ya :worship:. But a rice burner, come on now.
My .2 :seesaw: :giveup:

[tonyjnjz]

As I was reading this post about LS1's vs. AWD turbo 4 cylinders, I noticed some of you were getting a little upset and sensitive about a car giving an LS1 a run for the money. For as much as I love my '02 SS, I'm in an '02 SS because I dont have the money for a nice CarreraS (4 cylinder turbo motor's), a Porsche for you inbred's that dont know what a Carrera is. An LS1 is a working man's sports car, meaning you are phuckin' broke. Or your daddy bought you the car. For all the mustangs you beat, and honda's with a wing and muffler, you still drive a low end sports car. Here's what you do, next time you see a nice Porsche or hell even a nice Vette pull next to it on the highway and pop that shit. And if they got the nuts, you'll get your ass handed to you. Oh yeah and if your bitch is into you for your car, she'll leave with the guy in the Porsche. And why be concerned about racing light to light, race state to state. Phuckin' children!



what yr porshe are u talking about???? all the carreras for years now have been flat 6 cylinders.....NOT turbo 4s......and hand me my asss??? better be a new carrera GT ( 400k porshe for those who dont know) or a NEW 911 turbo ...eh or a new gt3...lol.....and btw the 50k plus boxster is a chick car ...i wouldnt trade my car for most porshes i can think of ( if cash dollar value ment nothing of course) ..id obviously trade my car for one just to sell it and buy a c6z06 .......go buy your porshe and well race on the highway

[Wesman]

:ughlaugh: Thats like a H/C N20 LS1 running 12s. There are stock turbo, drivetrain, no nitrous pump gas EVOs that run 11.80s... are you sure he has all that stuff to run a whopping 11.80?

Maybe he just doesn't launch the car at 6,000RPM like a jackass.

You know, maybe he just wants the clutch, trans, transfer case, and CV's to last more than 3K miles :rolleyes:

Stock Evos can make up almost a full second with their AWD launch, without a hard launch they run low 14's or high 13's. So with those mods and a *normal* launch, thats still a quick time. You act like Evos run 11's with a boost controller, get real.

[Wesman]

As I was reading this post about LS1's vs. AWD turbo 4 cylinders, I noticed some of you were getting a little upset and sensitive about a car giving an LS1 a run for the money. For as much as I love my '02 SS, I'm in an '02 SS because I dont have the money for a nice CarreraS (4 cylinder turbo motor's), a Porsche for you inbred's that dont know what a Carrera is. An LS1 is a working man's sports car, meaning you are phuckin' broke. Or your daddy bought you the car. For all the mustangs you beat, and honda's with a wing and muffler, you still drive a low end sports car. Here's what you do, next time you see a nice Porsche or hell even a nice Vette pull next to it on the highway and pop that shit. And if they got the nuts, you'll get your ass handed to you. Oh yeah and if your bitch is into you for your car, she'll leave with the guy in the Porsche. And why be concerned about racing light to light, race state to state. Phuckin' children!

My car will easily hand any Porsche its ass this side of a 911 Turbo.

Take your EuroTrash Snobby attitude and Jam it, you're a toolbag.:gay:

:hifinger:

[Wesman]

If the car was brand new, you may have also been cooking the clutch.

Anytime you dump the clutch at 6,000RPM in an AWD car you are going to cook the clutch...

[Wesman]

While there are some real clowns who have cars like EVOs, the majority are cool and down to earth people just like some who own LS1s, and other cars. More than 1/2 of my car friends drive domestics, and we all get along fine and no one disrespects anybody elses cars... unless they have an all motor Honda :ughlaugh:


95% of all the Evo and STI owners I have met are complete toolbags. Most were total wiggers too, which just makes it worse. You are just an addition to the list.

Heres my perspective - there is no point to making a 4 cylinder, 4 door economy car fast. Even if Evos can run 11's with full bolt ons and lassive boost, its still a ricer. It still looks like complete shit. It still sounds like a piece of shit. And there's no way an 11 second, AWD economy car is going to last in the long run. Especially one made by Mitsubishi, which is the worst car company on the planet. It will probably end up in the junkyard before 75K miles, long term reliability just isn't feasible with those vehicles.

[EE1983]

95% of all the Evo and STI owners I have met are complete toolbags. Most were total wiggers too, which just makes it worse. You are just an addition to the list.

Heres my perspective - there is no point to making a 4 cylinder, 4 door economy car fast. Even if Evos can run 11's with full bolt ons and lassive boost, its still a ricer. It still looks like complete shit. It still sounds like a piece of shit. And there's no way an 11 second, AWD economy car is going to last in the long run. Especially one made by Mitsubishi, which is the worst car company on the planet. It will probably end up in the junkyard before 75K miles, long term reliability just isn't feasible with those vehicles.


We dont care. No one does. People think you are an idiot, even fellow LS1 members. Just stop talking, please. Most LS1 guys Ive met are cool guys, then we have people like you.

You say EVOs cant go fast and have no top end, then when you say even if they do run 11s on boltons and such, it doesnt matter. :ughlaugh: Go crawl back to your cave, no one wants to hear your ignorant comments. Not me or anyone else.

[EE1983]

You dont have to launch at 6000rpms by the way. I launch at 5000, and Ive been doing it for 67,000 miles now. Car has been flawless in terms of reliability. According to your logic, shouldnt it be in a junkyard and be on the 40th transmission? LOL.

[Wesman]

We dont care. No one does. People think you are an idiot, even fellow LS1 members. Just stop talking, please. Most LS1 guys Ive met are cool guys, then we have people like you.

You say EVOs cant go fast and have no top end, then when you say even if they do run 11s on boltons and such, it doesnt matter. :ughlaugh: Go crawl back to your cave, no one wants to hear your ignorant comments. Not me or anyone else.

You call me an idiot, yet you are the assclown posting about your shitbox Evo on LS1.com. Every damn post where someone bashes your precious Evo, you come in and start bitching about how "they can run 11's with a boost controller yo" :rolleyes:

Evos are complete garbage. Of course you're going to disagree with that, your a stupid ricer who owns one, nothings going to change that. Come back when you have a real car, not come riced out 4 door economy car piece of shit with a fart can and a wing :ughlaugh:

And don't say "we", you are not representing anyone else on here but yourself. You are a ricer, most people on here are not. Like I said, your a toolbag, just like everyone else that owns a riced out import. Do everyone a favor and leave, it would be great not to see your worthless posts about reppin' imports in the Kill Stories section anymore.

[Wesman]

You dont have to launch at 6000rpms by the way. I launch at 5000, and Ive been doing it for 67,000 miles now. Car has been flawless in terms of reliability. According to your logic, shouldnt it be in a junkyard and be on the 40th transmission? LOL.

Don't worry, its going to break. Even one of the other guys who owns an Evo on here said the same thing. You're argueing with physics, your clutch isn't going to last forever, and neither is the rest of your drivetrain considering the way you drive the car. Look at the size of the transmission and drivetrain components, its not going to last in the long run. When you grenade that Mitsubitchi drivetrain I'm going to laugh my ass off, no joke.

I'm sure your one of the kids that brings their car to the dealership everytime it breaks though. So according to you, its never had any problems. You don't pay attention to things like sloppy CV joints, transmission bearing noise, transfer case clutch pack wear, shifter bushings, or clutch pedal free play. You just talk out your ass, you really have no clue whats going on.

You can keep lying to yourself, or you can come to the harsh reality that your car's drivetrain is going to be in the scrapyard before you hit 100K miles. You're an ignorant import troll, so I think the answer is pretty obvious. Believe what you want, you're wrong.

[tonyjnjz]

alright alright..enough of the evo bashing back and forth...its MORE than gettting old......lets get back on topic of this guy and his TURBO 4 banger porsche carrera that would smoke me on the highway...whered he go????? on top of that i know NOTHING of a 4 banger turbo porsche CARRERA in at least the last 20 yrs.......not disrespecting porsches just this guys accusation...although they are HIGHLY overpriced performance/per dollar

[KageSS]

what yr porshe are u talking about???? all the carreras for years now have been flat 6 cylinders.....NOT turbo 4s......and hand me my asss???

:haha:


:lmao:

RC gots :Owned: biaaaaaatch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KageSS]

I EAT Evo's for lunch, and then take a mean turbocharged Evo :Potty:. :yup: :)


:ughlaugh:

[Wesman]

I EAT Evo's for lunch, and then take a mean turbocharged Evo :Potty:. :yup: :)


:ughlaugh:


:haha: :haha: :haha:

[EE1983]

Don't worry, its going to break. Even one of the other guys who owns an Evo on here said the same thing. You're argueing with physics, your clutch isn't going to last forever, and neither is the rest of your drivetrain considering the way you drive the car. Look at the size of the transmission and drivetrain components, its not going to last in the long run. When you grenade that Mitsubitchi drivetrain I'm going to laugh my ass off, no joke.

I'm sure your one of the kids that brings their car to the dealership everytime it breaks though. So according to you, its never had any problems. You don't pay attention to things like sloppy CV joints, transmission bearing noise, transfer case clutch pack wear, shifter bushings, or clutch pedal free play. You just talk out your ass, you really have no clue whats going on.

You can keep lying to yourself, or you can come to the harsh reality that your car's drivetrain is going to be in the scrapyard before you hit 100K miles. You're an ignorant import troll, so I think the answer is pretty obvious. Believe what you want, you're wrong.


Please refrain from turning this into a debate with me. Oh, and stop PMing me saying retarded comments. I dont want to hear it and no one wants to hear your bashing here either. I dont bash any LS1 members here at all.

[DanWS6]

As I was reading this post about LS1's vs. AWD turbo 4 cylinders, I noticed some of you were getting a little upset and sensitive about a car giving an LS1 a run for the money. For as much as I love my '02 SS, I'm in an '02 SS because I dont have the money for a nice CarreraS (4 cylinder turbo motor's), a Porsche for you inbred's that dont know what a Carrera is. An LS1 is a working man's sports car, meaning you are phuckin' broke. Or your daddy bought you the car. For all the mustangs you beat, and honda's with a wing and muffler, you still drive a low end sports car. Here's what you do, next time you see a nice Porsche or hell even a nice Vette pull next to it on the highway and pop that shit. And if they got the nuts, you'll get your ass handed to you. Oh yeah and if your bitch is into you for your car, she'll leave with the guy in the Porsche. And why be concerned about racing light to light, race state to state. Phuckin' children! I'd honestly rather have a souped up "working man's" sports car than a slow overpriced yuppy mobile. I know quite a few people that post here who's "low end sports car" would destroy almost anything else on the road. :yup:

[Wesman]

Please refrain from turning this into a debate with me. Oh, and stop PMing me saying retarded comments. I dont want to hear it and no one wants to hear your bashing here either. I dont bash any LS1 members here at all.

Its not a debate, thats the facts, like it or not. Your car is based on an economy car platform and components, its not like a muscle car that is designed to be beaten on. If you beat on an Evo, it wil break. Its that simple. I drive my friends, and the shifter was all screwed up and wouldn't go into gear. They are cheaply built, plain and simple.

And no, I haven't PM's you at all, so I don't know where you're getting that from :screwy:

[EE1983]

Its not a debate, thats the facts, like it or not. Your car is based on an economy car platform and components, its not like a muscle car that is designed to be beaten on. If you beat on an Evo, it wil break. Its that simple. I drive my friends, and the shifter was all screwed up and wouldn't go into gear. They are cheaply built, plain and simple.

And no, I haven't PM's you at all, so I don't know where you're getting that from :screwy:

01-04-2007 Asshole
08:20 PM Wesman
Last Month
12-12-2006 Ricer
12:54 PM Wesman

Those are your 2 PMs to me. Guess you forgot huh.

For the record, Ive been beating the crap out of my car since the day I got it. Almost 70k on the odo and its been great :) Sorry to hear about your friend.

Oh btw arent you and your friend with a stock 03 Cobra going to come beat me hahaha.

[tonyjnjz]

is it the evo or the sti EE that is built on a completely different assembly line from the " economy " imprezas/lancers?????? i know one of them is built on the same line as the race rally version of the car.....evos/stis are NO WHERE Near the same as there base model counter parts that cost half the price......they share teh same outter shell and some of the interior......most EVERYTHING else is its own part

[tonyjnjz]

saying EE's EVO is the same as a base lancer is like saying YOUR Fbody WES is the same as a base model stripped down V6 bird .....your ignorance is rediculous

[tonyjnjz]

in that respect our cars are actually CLOSER to there base model counterparts than evo/stis are ....by far ........y do we do SOO Many mods to our fbodys???? suspension/SFC's/ REAR END...........cuz there poorly built as well ......were lucky to have a reasonably priced good looking car with a kick ass engine and tranny

[Wesman]

01-04-2007 Asshole
08:20 PM Wesman
Last Month
12-12-2006 Ricer
12:54 PM Wesman

Those are your 2 PMs to me. Guess you forgot huh.

For the record, Ive been beating the crap out of my car since the day I got it. Almost 70k on the odo and its been great :) Sorry to hear about your friend.

Oh btw arent you and your friend with a stock 03 Cobra going to come beat me hahaha.

Soon as you come up to Island Dragway in the Spring. You'll puss out though, you talk and you talk but you don't have the balls to back any of your shit up.

You're just lucky your Evo hasn't broken yet. Don't worry, the day will come, everythings just going to go all at once, and you'll be sitting in a pile of gear oil calling your daddy to come pick you up.

Those PM's were between a week and a month ago, you must be on drugs or something....:ughlaugh:

[Wesman]

saying EE's EVO is the same as a base lancer is like saying YOUR Fbody WES is the same as a base model stripped down V6 bird .....your ignorance is rediculous

You don't have a clue what you're talking about...

The V6 F-Body is BASED on the V8 F-body. Not the other way around. You obviously don't know your history, the F-Body debuted as a V8 Muscle car, not a V6 commuter car. It was designed for performance, drag racing, and taking abuse. The V6 came later, when they needed an economy version to increase sales and appeal to people who didn't want the added power and cost of a V8

The Evo is the opposite. It started life as a crappy Lancer economy car, and they just modified it to be a quote "performance car". Its roots are in the Lancer economy car.

YOUR ignorance is ridiclous, you just got schooled, now stop trying to explain things you have no clue about.

[Wesman]

in that respect our cars are actually CLOSER to there base model counterparts than evo/stis are ....by far ........y do we do SOO Many mods to our fbodys???? suspension/SFC's/ REAR END...........cuz there poorly built as well ......were lucky to have a reasonably priced good looking car with a kick ass engine and tranny

Now I see why you own a Lingenfelter. Because you can't do any of your own work, due to your lack of understanding cars in general.

The suspension of the F-Body isn't "poorly built". Its built for general use, if you're going to be drag racing you modify it for that purpose. The factory can't appeal to everyone with one setup. The chassis is plenty stiff, jack up one corner of an F-Body, and the chassis doesn't twist like a crappy economy car, its rigid enough. The rear end is the only weak point, and thats only when you start modding and producing more power than stock. There are plenty of guys in the 11's on the stock rear, its all how you drive it.

[KageSS]

You don't have a clue what you're talking about...

The V6 F-Body is BASED on the V8 F-body. Not the other way around. You obviously don't know your history, the F-Body debuted as a V8 Muscle car, not a V6 commuter car. It was designed for performance, drag racing, and taking abuse. The V6 came later, when they needed an economy version to increase sales and appeal to people who didn't want the added power and cost of a V8

The Evo is the opposite. It started life as a crappy Lancer economy car, and they just modified it to be a quote "performance car". Its roots are in the Lancer economy car.

YOUR ignorance is ridiclous, you just got schooled, now stop trying to explain things you have no clue about.

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WoW, nice comeback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yup: :flex:

[Wesman]

:Popcorn:


WoW, nice comeback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yup: :flex:

I can't stand people coming in here and talking shit about things they have no clue about.

And I can't stand ricers trying to rep' their cars on LS1.com, take your rice somewhere else, nobody cares :hahano:

[KageSS]

And I can't stand ricers trying to rep' their cars on LS1.com, take your rice somewhere else, nobody cares :hahano:

I agree 110% on this one....... :yup: :flex:

[tonyjnjz]

i am impressed as well u made many intelligent points in there...i didnt think he had it in him.........AND He did it without name calling.....i own a lingenfelter because i got a fantastic deal on it and always admired his work seeing it in the super car challanges and checking out his site..dont be jealous id spank the crap out of u wes.......as far as the evo goes its been a rally car since the late 80s.....im fairly certian they know how to build them by now......i find it hard to understand y u cant respect a car that pulls more Gs than MANY 100k plus sports cars.....is as fast as an fbody when drivin well and can be drivin in all sorts of weather.......and for only 30k.....how much fun would it be on the streets if we didnt have these and many other jap cars to play with?

[imflyn]

:stay:
It's always a funny thread when wesman gets on a roll
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[shady milkman]

:stay:
It's always a funny thread when wesman gets on a roll
:Popcorn:

:lol: yea it is. he is like a v8 ricer with some of his shit he says

[mrr23]

this is like a broken record that i'm fixing to toss out.