stall converter

[bigmike98ss]

what would be the best stall for a daily driver.

[nhraformula]

tci 3000 rpm streetfighter.
it drives like stock and will shave off a half second of e.t

[SteveC]

I have a Yank Y3000 2.0 STR, and it is very streetable.

If I had to do it all over again I would go with a 3500 stall.

SteveC :)

[Ed Blown Vert]

Vig 2800 is very streetable. But I would get a higher stall than that like a 3200.

I run a Vig 3200 but plan on restalling to 3600

[98ls1blackbird]

I have a 3200 Vigilante and love it. My stock 98 TA went .4 sec quicker after the converter install. The only other mod is a lid.

[bigmike98ss]

thank you, it sounds like i will go with the 3200

[Nicbmann]

I have a fuddle 3200 and love it. I also would go a little bit bigger though, if I had the opportunity. I barely even noticed a change when daily driving, unless of course your foot gets heavy off the line.

[RS_SS69]

I have a fuddle 3400 with a 2.2 STR and the and it drives really well and lets just say it freakin rocks like crazy!

[djvaly]

I don't know too much about stall converters.. so a few questions...
would the car top speed be lower after installing a stall converter? also I don't want to drive 60 @3000rpm and feel like I'm racing. I use my TA A4 as a daily driver, at least for the next 1.5 years I think. After I throw in a supercharger+aftercooler I'll abuse it every now and then (weekends/track).

[Ed Blown Vert]

The converter will lock up at 45 mph and drive just like stock on the freeway.

[djvaly]

I see, cool.. after 45 that's be me hehhe .. :splat:

[J'stransam]

I don't know too much about stall converters.. so a few questions...
would the car top speed be lower after installing a stall converter?

Yeah Im pretty sure the trap speed will do down 1-2MPH. There was a LS1 WS6 with just a converter and B-M shift kit at the track a couple weeks ago and it was trapping a 99, but I dont think that car was running right either. I trapped at 102 stock at the same track.

[0rion]

I have a fuddle 3500 with 3.73 gears in the rear. I personally wouldn't want less than a 3500 but that's JMO.

[AutomagicLS1]

I daily drive my Yank PT4000 everywhere. I'd drive it across country

[tav8ws6]

what about gears? what gears are good for a daily driver? i heard 3.43's are good as well as 3.73's- i dont think id go higher than 3.73 becuase i dont want to burn too much fuel, unless im wrong
im still figuring out the convertor and gear stuff

[tav8ws6]

if i ran a 3200 convertor that is

[koolaid_kid]

Not sure why they say a stall drives like stock. It slips as one would expect below the rpm of the stall. It does put you into the powerband quicker. But expect fuel economy to drop and take more gas (and rpms) to get going from a stop. But getting into the powerband immediately is awesome. Just personal experience, your mileage may vary.

[djvaly]

ok, here's a good review on stall converters.

http://www.fuddleracing.com/WhatConvertersDo.html

[Brianss1]

3400 midwest,12 bolt 3.73,s. Drives easy on the street,pulls hard too.

01 WS6,Custom Comp 228/236-588/578-114,ported/polished heads w/Manley Race Master valves,ti retainers,hardend pushrods,Mac headers,ory,Magnaflow,complete BMR susp,DTS 12 bolt,3.73's,Midwest 3400 stall,Bunch of other stuff.

[shady milkman]

if i ran a 3200 convertor that is

good choice..you could even go 3400 i think. they 3.73 are legit they would really complement your set up..but expect alot of tire burning if you get into the pedal to much.

[domestic rice]

I am still trying to understand how this stall works. So for you guys with say the 3200 stall, if you put your car in drive and press the gas nice and easy (normal driving) do you have to wait for the rpm's to get to 3200 before your car starts to move? This is what is kind of confusing me.

[koolaid_kid]

Just speaking from my experience, I have to rev to about 2000 rpm before the car starts to move (starting easy). If I start with more throttle, it revs to at least 3000 before it starts to move. I have a 3400 stall.
Your mileage may vary...

[djvaly]

if i ran a 3200 convertor that is

you have to match the stall converter with the cam, if u go aggressive on the converter then a more aggressive cam too is required. that's what I'd been hearing, in my case a 3200 converter and a mild cam will do. the gears I'd recommend 3.73 for A4 and 4.10 for M6,, u'd just accelerate much faster,, oooh yeah!
:flex:

[tav8ws6]

but what about highway MPG? if im cruising at 80 mph, i dont want my motor screaming and guzzling my gas like crazy

also i had an issue at the track and my rear got screwed up somehow. if the gears are messed up, (which i dont think they are), what new gears should i go with? I will be installing Pacesetter LT's with a Texas Speed and Performance 3 in. Y-pipe with catalytic convertors, and a Magnaflow Cat- Back, this winter. with that setup, would 3.43 gears be a good match for now or should i leave the stock 3.23 gears in?

oh yeah, just incase, i have a 2002 T/A WS-6

[Ed Blown Vert]

but what about highway MPG? if im cruising at 80 mph, i dont want my motor screaming and guzzling my gas like crazy

The converter will lock up at 45 mph and drive like stock.

[01Z28M6]

Does anyone here know what the stall rating for the stock 4L60E is rated or considered to be?

[koolaid_kid]

Around 1600 -1800, IIRC.

[mystic-z]

Are you sure stock stall is 16-1800, That seems pretty high. I was going to ask that question today.
My guess would be more like 1150-1200
Anybody know for sure?

[shady milkman]

Are you sure stock stall is 16-1800, That seems pretty high. I was going to ask that question today.
My guess would be more like 1150-1200
Anybody know for sure?

no i believe it is close to that 1600 mark

[mystic-z]

But we are all guessing it sounds like .
Anybody ACTUALLY know?
From chevy data,repair manuals etc.

[98ls1blackbird]

On my 98 TA A4, when I had the stock converter in it, powerbraking to 1500 would skid my front tires out of the staging beams. Maybe mine was extra tight. I had to leave at 1200 rpm.

[mystic-z]

Years ago, I remember looking into this on older muscle cars + was surprised at how extremely low the stock ones were, vaguely remember around 1000 ish.

Doesnt mean todays are that low, but i bet most would still be surprised at the actual #.

Man I,m turning into my father, starting quotes with, "years ago". Whats next? "Back in the day" + "In the old days". Gotta go pull out the Z + smell some tire smoke,
Make me feel young again.

[koolaid_kid]

O.K. pops. Wanting to know specs rather than seat of the pants.
Perhaps someone has a spec (assuming that GM ever published one) for a torque convertor. Just grab your tube of BenGay...:drivin:

[mystic-z]

Why you young whipper snapper,I will put in my false teeth, take my metamucil + kick ...

I havnt quite hit geezerhood yet, but i do catch myself using those,phrazes more often. ITS SCARY!!!

Alright this is a camaro board, back on
track.
I didn't ask the orig question about the stall but I also was curious, If only to find out how much higher you are going, to get a certain performance level.
And how does the orig stall compare to the orig cams
power profile, And last but not least, curiosity.
One can never have too much knowledge , Grasshopper.
Now respect your elders......

[djvaly]

it's actually an LS1 board not maro ;)

[koolaid_kid]

It's O.K. mystic, I have a decade on you. But the long skinny pedal on the right side still gets lots of work. Plus I ride my bikes (3 classic rice burners) in a spirited manner. You never get too old to enjoy going swiftly.
With my stock verter, I could brake rev to around 1600 before the back tires started to break loose. This is what I considered the stall speed, and most forums will affirm that. When I called Fuddle and told them my setup, they recommended the 3400 STR 2.1 that I now have.
When I do punch it, it is immediately in the meat of the power curve (all stock internals). It just gets there a whole, whole lot quicker.

[import slayer]

I DD a PT 4400 and so far no complaints

[Estreeter]

no i believe it is close to that 1600 mark

Its 1600.

[shady milkman]

Its 1600.

:woot: :nana:

[mystic-z]

And you know this, How?

[koolaid_kid]

God, I am removing myself from this thread. This has gone from ridiculous to ludicrous.

[djvaly]

hehheh, do it! :lol: