Calling All Big Dogs!!

[DreamLS1]

this is for all the big Horsepower guys out there. I just bought a Ls1 block. I am building it up and puting a procharer on it looking for 700+ at the wheels. I need help with the internals. Part #s, brands etc would be good. Please go into detail of what i have to get for the motor as i am lost and want to do this right. I Found a guy puting out 717whp on exotic performance website but cant find his specs. This is going to be a weekend street/strip car. Please help!:nana:

[Packy]

Where in IL do you live?

[DreamLS1]

bloomington

[DreamLS1]

come on guys, whos pullin down big #s

[Packy]

I have Diamond pistons and Lunati rods in my car. The stock crank is good up to around 800-900 hp in some cases it has seen more. I am not a a big dog though.

So how is Bloomington? I grew up in Moline.

[DreamLS1]

looks like not many people throwing down big numbers:Potty:

[shady milkman]

man i know quite a few are at 500ish range..but 700?...i know ed is at 666..and his is stroked,sprayed and boosted...so 700 might be diff too aquire..but good luck..are you talking 700fwhp or rwhp?

[DreamLS1]

RWHP, i want to get as close to 700 as possible. I read a procharged TA put down 717 hp@5500rmp on a mustange dyno. so its possible

[chrisl285]

seeing is belieiving....most reading is fiction

[shady milkman]

i'd pm ed and see what he thinks actually wait!..i'll call him out right now ED!!!! WE NEED YOUR EXPERTISE!!!:nana:

[cailey37]

Ummm.....it can and has been done.....plenty times over.....700 rwhp is attainable if you have the money...It took me a LS2 402, Stage III heads, Custom Fuel System, 76mm Turbo, Custom Cam, Methanol Injection, the list could go on an on.......I got mine on 15lbs of boost and yes....on pump gas.......but the methanol had a lot to do with that.....

[Ed Blown Vert]

man i know quite a few are at 500ish range..but 700?...i know ed is at 666..and his is stroked,sprayed and boosted...so 700 might be diff too aquire..but good luck..are you talking 700fwhp or rwhp?

Its possible. I am only at 666 because my blower is way to small. I am still running that puny little P1.

With the D1, I should be able over 600. And the Nitrous should put me over 700. At least I hope so.

[shady milkman]

see...its sorta like superman...you call and he will come :D

[ss~zoso~ss]

Its possible. I am only at 666 because my blower is way to small. I am still running that puny little P1.

With the D1, I should be able over 600. And the Nitrous should put me over 700. At least I hope so.

you're at 666 RWHP without nitro?

[ss~zoso~ss]

cailey37 pm me some pics of your engine/car id love to see it

[cailey37]

cailey37 pm me some pics of your engine/car id love to see it

Here you go.....I put some here.....I'll be taking some this weekend after I clean the thing up....lol

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24798&page=3

[Ed Blown Vert]

you're at 666 RWHP without nitro?

In the sig

[DreamLS1]

thanks guys i think i am goign with the 408 stroker/w D1 and menthol. Will see what happens:uzi:

[Forcedinductiontech]

We are shooting for 750 at the crank....but its a little v6 though..lol

[HUNTER02SS]

I am having a motor being built right know. We are shooting for the 780rwhp mark. The motor consist of this,6 Litre iron block,Stock crank, Billet main caps, Eagle h-beam rod's(6.125)
Manley blower piston's, Dart head's(225) and a big cam. All heald together with ARP Bolt's.:yup:

[shady milkman]

doesnt the stock crank start to fail around 800?

[cailey37]

doesnt the stock crank start to fail around 800?

I sure wouldn't push one that far......

[shady milkman]

I sure wouldn't push one that far......

me either. but i am the king of n00bs so my opinon really doesnt matter to much :)

[HUNTER02SS]

I've seen i bet a dozen or so car's go 750-800+ rwhp with stock crank's. I don't think I will have a problem. We will find out.:yup:

[shady milkman]

I've seen i bet a dozen or so car's go 750-800+ rwhp with stock crank's. I don't think I will have a problem. We will find out.:yup:

lol yea...i'm not saying like the instant you get to the 700-800+ mark the crank is just going to go to shit, but all stress on it, i wouldnt doubt maybe less then a year intill it says fuck it.(excuse my french :dance:)

[cailey37]

I've seen i bet a dozen or so car's go 750-800+ rwhp with stock crank's. I don't think I will have a problem. We will find out.:yup:

Maybe so but I dont think you'll see them last long.......why not spend a little extra and get a good crank that will last.....a little longer at least.......

[Packy]

Maybe so but I dont think you'll see them last long.......why not spend a little extra and get a good crank that will last.....a little longer at least.......

Harlan ran about 1000hp at the wheels for over a year and half on his stock crank...

[HUNTER02SS]

Harlan ran about 1000hp at the wheels for over a year and half on his stock crank...


Yeah, I don't think that I have ever heard of a stock crank failing due to it breaking,(not that there hasn't been one) maybe not oiling good enough, but I would think that would be a different issue.:yup:

[Forcedinductiontech]

Detonation will kill a crank....

[Packy]

Detonation will kill a crank....

I believe it will kill the pistons and rods first!

[Forcedinductiontech]

I believe it will kill the pistons and rods first!
Stock rods and pistons...yes.... but how many stock rod/piston motors do you see making 700 +? Ive seen detonation snap many cranks in the TR world...which leads to windowing the block with a rod...

[shady milkman]

Stock rods and pistons...yes.... but how many stock rod/piston motors do you see making 700 +? Ive seen detonation snap many cranks in the TR world...which leads to windowing the block with a rod...

i'm not worthy :worship: ..you know your shit

[Forcedinductiontech]

i'm not worthy :worship: ..you know your shit

I'll take that as a sarcastic remark:nana:

[bluethunder2]

Yep, check out the vehicles in Atlanta. Several cars are making 750 + at the rear wheels (forced induction) with the stock crank. If the motor is a well balanced and well tuned machine, 750 -1000 rwhp is achievable with the stock crank. These cars in the Atlanta area have lasted for over 2 years so far, with normal street driving, dyno pulls, and several track days.

Good luck on your build.

[shady milkman]

I'll take that as a sarcastic remark:nana:

actually no ..it was serious :dance:

[DreamLS1]

sounds nice! i am gong with a 6.0l iron block as well.

[HUNTER02SS]

You wouldn't be talking about your car would you. Nevermind, you use that artificial atmosphere stuff. Just kidding. Huury up and move back would you, or just closer would be good.


Yep, check out the vehicles in Atlanta. Several cars are making 750 + at the rear wheels (forced induction) with the stock crank. If the motor is a well balanced and well tuned machine, 750 -1000 rwhp is achievable with the stock crank. These cars in the Atlanta area have lasted for over 2 years so far, with normal street driving, dyno pulls, and several track days.

Good luck on your build.

[bluethunder2]

You wouldn't be talking about your car would you. Nevermind, you use that artificial atmosphere stuff. Just kidding. Huury up and move back would you, or just closer would be good.

Cali. sucks wouldn't mind being back in Georgia where high horsepower is a norm. Can't wait to see your #'s when that car of yours is done. :flex:

[HUNTER02SS]

Cali. sucks wouldn't mind being back in Georgia where high horsepower is a norm. Can't wait to see your #'s when that car of yours is done. :flex:


It should not be long.Will be dropping the car off in a week to get the motor's swapped.:flex: