Best N/A head cam package?

[vipVEGAS]

Would like to go with afr heads, dont know about cam yet with full bolt ons, which head and cam should I go with to put my 01 WS6 in the 430-450 range daily driver?

[MISFIT]

Would like to go with afr heads, dont know about cam yet with full bolt ons, which head and cam should I go with to put my 01 WS6 in the 430-450 range daily driver?



I would find a nice 230 range cam, with .585 or .595 lift and a 110-111lsa and a set of stage 3 heads and a good dyno tune.



cam only, im putting out 420+ hp with a 228/232/.595 - 110lsa cam...stock heads.

[Bose2683]

The truth is AFR are good but I have Patiort proformance and I have the same amount of RWHP as you are looking for but I got to put $1000 back in my pocket and I got roller rockers out of the deal too. Just food for thought


I would find a nice 230 range cam, with .585 or .595 lift and a 110-111lsa and a set of stage 3 heads and a good dyno tune.



cam only, im putting out 420+ hp with a 228/232/.595 - 110lsa cam...stock heads.

[vipVEGAS]

I am open to the patriot head have a friend with them and Im impressed, but everyone here seems to say afr.

What is your setup, which head by patriot and what cam

[Mr. Luos]

Best Patriot head for you budget wise would be the LS6 style Stage 2.
Stage 3 is for larger bore motors.

[vipVEGAS]

what about cam, I want it to be a daily driver, dont want much of an idle issue, whats the best bet? but want a good lope with max power

[Mr. Luos]

228/228 59x/59x 114
For a daily...maybe even just the 224/224.

[vipVEGAS]

should I go trex or open to any?

[Mr. Luos]

TRex isn't going to be that daily driver friendly.
Check this one out...

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=167&catid=44

[oneBADDz]

I have a 232/234 .595.598 on a 112 and I would call it very DD friendly, here's a cold start clip before the tune. I'll get a new clip since the tune with cold start and warm idle if you want. http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j68/z_driver1/th_Movie.jpg (http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j68/z_driver1/?action=view&current=Movie.flv)

[vipVEGAS]

is the 112 lobe seperation to much, would it create bad idle problems

[vipVEGAS]

what kinda hp did your recieve

[vipVEGAS]

ONEBADZZ cam sounds awesome do you have heads, who is your cam made by? what kind of power range?

[MISFIT]

Low LSA doesnt give a BAD idle. LSA changes the lobe seperation, which moves the centerline in the intake and exhaust lobes. a low LSA gives more power down low and broadens the power band. it also creates more of a vacume in the intake, making the idle "lopey" its not a bad thing, some people like the sound....

more of an LSA, like 114-116 lowers the power level, reduces the vacume at idle, and will give less low end torque and power, and your powerband will lower.


sometimes nitrous cams have a high LSA for this very reason.... :)

[oneBADDz]

pm'd you back vipvegas

[RWB]

I've been researching head/cam combo's, ran across what seems to be a decent deal with Patriot heads and cam from a company in Calif. Redline Perfomance Engineering. Anybody have any dealings with them?

It really seems that for a street vehicle Patriot heads with a good cam(which one?)stage II 11:1CR for us poor guys might be the best way to go. Texas Speed also has what appears to be a good package using Patriot heads.

[oneBADDz]

responded to your pm also

[Frankthetank]

I gotta Torquer v2 Cam....just like that other guy in the vid....sounds just like that....Mines not to driver friendly......but it would be better if i had a better tune to it....

Honestly drivability aint too bad....U just gotta get used to it.....Its kinda fun knowing sometimes that u know ur car and no one else really knows how to drive it......also no one can steal it lol without it stalling out :D! haha well at least mine....i got a shitty tune

[oneBADDz]

Get a good tune and it will run sooo smooth. I had problems before the tune, but afterwards it runs very smooth. An M6 will run even better than our autos

[MISFIT]

installing a head and cam, and then running around untuned, is just asking for your shit to blowup. Why do so many people take this chance? especially after a cam install.....

[Frankthetank]

I dont run around untuned.....i just got a shitty tune

[silverz28camaro]

I ran a 11.70@117.2 1.70 60' with nitto 555r tires245/50-16 with full bolt-ons, 2800 stall, 3.73 moser 12 bolt, and tr224/227 cam with ls6 heads. 23 mpg

Very daily driver able, should have went 3400 stall and a tsp v.2 cam.
Oh and 255 MT's tires
I will try the 3400 and v.2 cam next year to compare cam/ converter combos
and see how times/mpg differ

[john5632]

Are you an A4 or 6speed?
fwiw I put down 435rwhp 407 rwt in an A4 with a 232/238 111lsa cam fast 90 with TSP stage 2.5 5.5 heads

[sourjohn]

onebaddz, what does your car idle at? who did your tune? What else do you have on the car? I have the same cam, and have problems keeping it running with a cold start, and it likes to stumble after it is warmed up. Just curious...thanks.

[INMY01TA]

The truth is AFR are good but I have Patiort proformance and I have the same amount of RWHP as you are looking for but I got to put $1000 back in my pocket and I got roller rockers out of the deal too. Just food for thoughtLol. You're Patriot heads will not perform like AFRs. :lmao:

[PushroD]

Yeah, but he's got an extra $1000 bucks in his pocket! Question is, are the AFR's really worth twice the price? I'm researching heads too, but not everyone here has a wallet as fat as yours, INMY01TA, if that's what you're sportin' good for you! but for the rest of us, we're open to available options..