Camaro, Monsoon/adding 62.7is to door, writeup

[rotwiler]

This is for the Camaro(98-02), others years and models may not be the same, so only going with what I know. This is in the hardtop and t top cars with the Monsoon setup.
thought I would do a quick writeup with pictures for those wanting to upgrade the door speakers. Reason I didn't name any other brands is I don't know of any that are 2ohm.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_104.jpg
62.7i and stock speaker side by side(notice the dual connectors on both)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_105.jpg
Top view
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_106.jpg
Shows holes line up
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_107.jpg
Stock speaker in door.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_108.jpg
Stock speaker removed, notice the 2 sets of wires(tweeter/woofer), when removed you may want to mark which one goes to the tweeter and woofer for ease of connecting later.
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http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_110.jpg
I used a piece of tape to mark the tweeter wires(easy to mix up since they look alike)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_111.jpg
I cut a couple inches of wires off the crossover Infinity supplies with the 62.7i, and spliced the wires into the the factory wires. Don't use the crossover infinity supplies, everything is crossover already. they supply this for cars that don't need a dual input. Plus, the 62.7i has a crossover in the tweeter and the monsoon amp is crossed over for the woofer.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_112.jpg
Tweak the tweeter to adjust for best sound(is adjustable to point where you want the sound to go and can turn it for more db's of highs, I turned mine alll the way up and had the tweeter point as close I could get it to the shifter).

[third_shift|studios]

nicely done...now, how do you get the door panel off? :lol:

[MadSeason]

nicely done...now, how do you get the door panel off? :lol: :slap:

[The Scientist]

Quick note for Pontiac owners:

You CAN use these speakers as replacements. After some trial and error to find the best set-up, this is what I found works best. What I did was replace the factory speaker with the 62.7i and left the factory tweeter alone. The input for the factory mid and tweeter are independant. My understanding is that one comes from the headunit and the other from the moonson amp. I found better results when using the input for the mid with the supplied crossover. Unlike the camaro description above, I recommend using it for the pontiacs. In the end, you have one mid and two tweeters that rock. Now all I need a subwoofer...bad!!!

[MadSeason]

Quick note for Pontiac owners:

You CAN use these speakers as replacements. After some trial and error to find the best set-up, this is what I found works best. What I did was replace the factory speaker with the 62.7i and left the factory tweeter alone. The input for the factory mid and tweeter are independant. My understanding is that one comes from the headunit and the other from the moonson amp. I found better results when using the input for the mid with the supplied crossover. Unlike the camaro description above, I recommend using it for the pontiacs. In the end, you have one mid and two tweeters that rock. Now all I need a subwoofer...bad!!!

you can't run the tweeter through the crossover running off of the amp, there's no signal there other than that for the woofer

[The Scientist]

MadSeason, since you used the word woofer I take it you may be confused. This if for the door speakers, I am not talking about replacing the sail panel speakers in this manner. I understand you have to tap into the rear speaker inputs for full range of sound.
If you are talking about the door then I would argue that the signal for the mid in the door is near full range. It may not be the ideal set up but trust me when I say that it works. Especially for those who want nothing more that to replace a blown speaker. Yes, the tweeter will scream (and is still adjustable) when using that signal with the crossover.
As I said I did a lot of trial and error and this works the best. I also tried using the mid signal (no crossover) to power the woofer and the factory tweeter signal (with & without the factory crossover) to power the tweeter. I was very unhappy with any combination of this setup, especially without the factory crossover and it wasn't much better with it.
Rotwiler did a great write-up and I commend him for it. I certainly didn't have the patience (or digital camera) to do the same. What I do know is that this has been a question for Pontiac owners in many threads and I am here to say that it can be done.

[jclm24v]

if i may add something to this great rite up. the monsoon amp is crossed over for the tweet and you should cut the passive crossover off of the tweet. also the factory tweet is a very high impedance so most any aftermarket speaker you install will have a lower impedance and are going to be louder than the factory tweet meening the tweet tipically will over power the mid and make everything a little bright. from what i remember the factory tweet meters around 6ohm and the woofer meters around 4ohm. so my suggestion on speakers would be to go with a 4ohm speaker instead of a 2ohm so that you you can get more of an xact match. reason being the lower the impedance the harder the amp is going to work the faster it will heat up and the faster it will distort. most monsoon systems are going to be a higher impedance around 4ohm . now when you get into bose systems that can be a differant storry they are generaly 2ohm speakers.

[jpick1353]

Great Write up, made it real easy. I found a great deal on the kappas.

http://www.cranberrymerchant.com/136812/5217141.html

[FuriousGeorge]

Great Write up, made it real easy. I found a great deal on the kappas.

http://www.cranberrymerchant.com/136812/5217141.html

you can get them for less than that shipped on eBay.

[jpick1353]

My brother in law works at infinity, he is the one that directed me to www.cranberrymerchant.com
basically their tier 5 wholesale price on those, which is the most aggressive is $94.82. If you can buy something for less then that, then it is a refurbished or a factory reject unit. He said a lot of them are factory rejects because they do not play the full sound spectrum, etc. etc.

Anyways, I looked on Ebay and I personally chose to spend the extra $10 to get a factory direct non refurbished or grey market unit.

[Adam228]

Your my hero, you just explained simply how to do something that was taking me hours of research with crutchfield and other camaro sites! I have the same exact speakers and everything. Thanks for the huge time saving tips.

[WartHog]

Rot,

I bought the 62.7i for the doors and sail panels. No subs for now. Deleted the hatch speakers too. Running everything through the Monsoon amp and Pioneer 4800MP HU. Installed per your directions. I just wanted to THANK YOU!!! Your advice and direction were spot-on and greatly appreciated. The highs were hurting my ears a little, but I think I may have it adjusted now. Again, thanks much. Jim

[weberje]

I still want to know how you take off the door panel!!!:dot:

[third_shift|studios]

here:

http://shbox.com/page/windowmotor.html

[weberje]

Sweet. Thanx.

[bluefields88]

I got my Infinity 62.7i's installed today. they are glorious. :worship: :rockon:

[KageSS]

I got my Infinity 62.7i's installed today. they are glorious. :worship: :rockon:

Recognize!!!!!!!! :yup:

[bluefields88]

ya, I bought them from that Cranberrymerchant website for 100 bucks, only cost like, 8 dollars to ship. I went to Frys electronics the other day and saw them there for 150 bucks. made me feel good. :)

[rotwiler]

Another tip is if your aftermarket hu has the abilty to turn down the output(my Kenwood can turn down the output to match the system better or you can turn it up), is just like the sub output adjustments. With it set to -2 I can turn the stereo up to full blast with no noticable distortion. These 62.7i's also fit perfect in the back seat sailpanel(but you need to run wires from the far hatch speakers if you want highs). Only mod you need to do when adding them in the sailpanel is use a piece of sound deadening or something else to plug the square cutout under the factory sub in the sailpanel. GM decided to take the easy way and they ran the speaker wires from outside area to the back of the speaker which left a hole. The factory subs have a hard carboard piece that covers the hole. I added a couple feet of lighweight sound deadening behind the sailpanel and covered some of the large holes in the speaker hole on the cars body. I don't use the 62.7i's for low bass though, I have 2 10's, so the 62.7i's are for mids and highs only. The factory amp sounds pretty good now..I have no reason to ever upgrade it now.

[Dreamor]

My door speakers were blown so I installed these this weekend. Wow what a difference over my stock speakers (even when they worked). They sound awesome, if a little bright. I think when I install the EU-700s it will balance out a little more. These are great speakers. Thanks for the write up.

[rotwiler]

Flatten out the EQ on your hu and point the tweeters almost pointing at each other, helps with the brightness of them. Also, don't turn the db's of highs up on the tweeter, leave it all the way down. It took some playing with to get it just right.

[Dreamor]

Flatten out the EQ on your hu and point the tweeters almost pointing at each other, helps with the brightness of them. Also, don't turn the db's of highs up on the tweeter, leave it all the way down. It took some playing with to get it just right.

I'm using the stock Monsoon/Delco HU so my EQ ability is limited to treble, bass, and those great presets. I positioned the tweeters with the most protruding edge at the top on both speakers. I tuned the DB+ on because when they were off I noticed a washed out sound from guitar highs. I listen to a lot of rock/metal so I must have my guitar. :slash: :rockon: I plan to turn the DB+ off when I install the Infinity 4'' ref speakers in the hatch and turn their DB+ on. Then when I add the Eu-700s it should balance out nicely. At least thats what I'm hoping.

[blackoutss]

Just had infinity kappa 62.7i installed in front door panels,left and right side, since the right side blow out last week, very impressive loudspeakers:flex:
parts+installation $175, back on the road again with extra sound power!

[RD2000ta]

I think 1 or 2 of my speakers in my 2000 TA are blown do you know if the are covered under any kind of warranty?

[fredmr85]

Factory tweeters have 4 ohm impedances, these are of 2 ohm impedances -- has anyone ever had any problems blowing them/damaging factory amp/etc?

[rotwiler]

I have had them in for almost 15 months and I listen to the the stereo at almost max all the time. Never had a single issue... I did read somewhere that they are not exactly 2ohm, more in the 3ohm area(but I can't confirm this), but also tweeters really do not put a big load on the amp, so heat shouldn't be a issue. I know 2 other people that have these speakers and they have been happy with them for 9+ months now without a issue.

[fredmr85]

I have had them in for almost 15 months and I listen to the the stereo at almost max all the time. Never had a single issue... I did read somewhere that they are not exactly 2ohm, more in the 3ohm area(but I can't confirm this), but also tweeters really do not put a big load on the amp, so heat shouldn't be a issue. I know 2 other people that have these speakers and they have been happy with them for 9+ months now without a issue.
Yea I figured with the power/etc. there wouldn't be much of an issue -- but only experience can answer that for sure, and from what I've heard from you and others there seems to be no issues. Thanks!

[mpunklil]

wire a 2 ohm resister in series if you guys are really worried about it being too harsh. they cost 50 cents at radio shack. problem solved

[fredmr85]

wire a 2 ohm resister in series if you guys are really worried about it being too harsh. they cost 50 cents at radio shack. problem solved

do NOT do this

[mpunklil]

do NOT do this

lol :nana:

[RU-AGK]

Could I hook up these same speakers in the door panels of my '98 WS6 T/A Convertible? The '98 vert does NOT have a Monsoon system and I'm content with my original Delco HU.

I have no experience with automotive audio at all but I know enough that just by looking at the speaker grill I have the independent tweeter you guys attribute to the Monsoon setup but without the Monsoon amp I'm wondering if my installation would be any different.

Currently I'm experiencing the insanity inducing blown speaker rattle from my passenger side door anytime I give my tunes any kind of volume above a whisper. Most likely I'll have a pro do the install because getting the door panels off looks like a magicians trick but I don't want to be surprised by any incompatibilities.

Any help is appreciated.

[mpunklil]

Could I hook up these same speakers in the door panels of my '98 WS6 T/A Convertible? The '98 vert does NOT have a Monsoon system and I'm content with my original Delco HU.

I have no experience with automotive audio at all but I know enough that just by looking at the speaker grill I have the independent tweeter you guys attribute to the Monsoon setup but without the Monsoon amp I'm wondering if my installation would be any different.

Currently I'm experiencing the insanity inducing blown speaker rattle from my passenger side door anytime I give my tunes any kind of volume above a whisper. Most likely I'll have a pro do the install because getting the door panels off looks like a magicians trick but I don't want to be surprised by any incompatibilities.

Any help is appreciated.

just go to bestbuy, simple and cheap :)

[fredmr85]

Could I hook up these same speakers in the door panels of my '98 WS6 T/A Convertible? The '98 vert does NOT have a Monsoon system and I'm content with my original Delco HU.

I have no experience with automotive audio at all but I know enough that just by looking at the speaker grill I have the independent tweeter you guys attribute to the Monsoon setup but without the Monsoon amp I'm wondering if my installation would be any different.

Currently I'm experiencing the insanity inducing blown speaker rattle from my passenger side door anytime I give my tunes any kind of volume above a whisper. Most likely I'll have a pro do the install because getting the door panels off looks like a magicians trick but I don't want to be surprised by any incompatibilities.

Any help is appreciated.

So you have separate tweeters but no monsoon system? I'm not sure that is correct - are you sure? These speakers would not be a good choice if you do not have the Monsoon system because the Delco HU likes to see a 4 ohm impedance. You also lose whatever separates you have, obviously.

I wouldn't personally go to Best Buy -- find a friend or someone willing to help, or learn for yourself. The door is NOT tricky and there are several guides to help you through it if you search.

[RU-AGK]

I could be wrong, and this pic is not my car, but my door panel speaker is exactly like this one: http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/8793716.jpg?1159935539 Could it be hollow behind that little grill on my car? Possible I guess, but why would Pontiac send it that way from the factory? I'm the only owner of the car and I've never had the door panel open to check.

FWIW a quick search at Crutchfield shows the Infinity 62.7i as a compatible replacement for a non-Monsoon '98 vert. I just don't want an installer to open up the door panel and tell me I'm screwed if I buy the speaker on the cheap online.

[fredmr85]

FWIW a quick search at Crutchfield shows the Infinity 62.7i as a compatible replacement for a non-Monsoon '98 vert. I just don't want an installer to open up the door panel and tell me I'm screwed if I buy the speaker on the cheap online.

Not worth anything - that just means the size is correct.

You sure you don't have Monsoon? I don't know the Pontiac systems and if they had separate door panels or not..

[RU-AGK]

Dealer told me so when I was looking at the car and asking questions almost 10 years ago PLUS there is none of the typical Monsoon badge work all over the HU that usually gives away the Monsoon setup.

I really don't think it makes sense for the vert to have a Monsoon. 4 speakers total (2 door panel + 2 rear seat) none of that cool stuff you guys with hatches talk about. Remember, I have a TRUNK (big enough to hold the Delco CD Changer and a box of Tic-Tacs.)

I appreciate your input on my search for the truth though.

[mpunklil]

Dealer told me so when I was looking at the car and asking questions almost 10 years ago PLUS there is none of the typical Monsoon badge work all over the HU that usually gives away the Monsoon setup.

I really don't think it makes sense for the vert to have a Monsoon. 4 speakers total (2 door panel + 2 rear seat) none of that cool stuff you guys with hatches talk about. Remember, I have a TRUNK (big enough to hold the Delco CD Changer and a box of Tic-Tacs.)

I appreciate your input on my search for the truth though.

Once again, just go to best buy. You have standard 4 ohm speakers, and they only charge you $35 bucks for labor, sometimes they even offer free install on a pair of speakers. If they fuck it up, they pay for it, and you get warranty. Im only basing this on the fact that you dont seem confident enough to take the panel off yourself, or a friend who will, because it would have already been done by now. :)

[mpunklil]

I could be wrong, and this pic is not my car, but my door panel speaker is exactly like this one: http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/8793716.jpg?1159935539 Could it be hollow behind that little grill on my car? Possible I guess, but why would Pontiac send it that way from the factory? I'm the only owner of the car and I've never had the door panel open to check.

FWIW a quick search at Crutchfield shows the Infinity 62.7i as a compatible replacement for a non-Monsoon '98 vert. I just don't want an installer to open up the door panel and tell me I'm screwed if I buy the speaker on the cheap online.

Its easier to leave some speakers and an amp out of the car, than make completely different door panels JUST for the cars that dont have the upgraded monsoon.

[mpunklil]

cancel everything i just said. i just looked at your HU, and its a monsoon. it doesnt need to be labeled as such either. The dealer probably just disconnected the stock tweets.

[fredmr85]

cancel everything i just said. i just looked at your HU, and its a monsoon. it doesnt need to be labeled as such either. The dealer probably just disconnected the stock tweets.

HUs are the same for Monsoon and base systems.

He also said he only has the 4 speakers, I believe.

[mpunklil]

i forgot about that, im delirious right now, 3/4's of a way through a 17 hr shift at work. uuugh

[MasterEvilAce]

Bump!!

+1 for getting these speakers. Man.. the sound overpowers the lows, now. I need a damn sub!

[fredmr85]

Bump!!

+1 for getting these speakers. Man.. the sound overpowers the lows, now. I need a damn sub!

No need to bump the sticky :)

Yea they are really bright -- mostly because Infinity speakers are brighter in general, and the tweeter is 2 ohms where the stock tweeter is 4 ohms.

[ZedTwoEight]

i've been looking around for replacement door speakers for my '99 Z28 w/monsoon. I notice that that these speakers seem to be a favorite choice, with their dual inputs. But Crutchfield.com says they "do not fit" and suggest a bunch of single input 6.5" door speakers, and then they note "you will only get bass response from these speakers with the stock system" and they reccommend replacing the stock head unit! Weird.

[fredmr85]

i've been looking around for replacement door speakers for my '99 Z28 w/monsoon. I notice that that these speakers seem to be a favorite choice, with their dual inputs. But Crutchfield.com says they "do not fit" and suggest a bunch of single input 6.5" door speakers, and then they note "you will only get bass response from these speakers with the stock system" and they reccommend replacing the stock head unit! Weird.
Sounds like they were referring to when you install these speakers in the SAIL PANEL locations -- the doors, you are fine at.

[sl63409]

Hey, thanks for the write up - and the link to the door removal. It inspired me do the upgrade which I finished earlier this evening.

I did one thing different, however. After determining which wire pair were the tweeter, and then labeling them, I un-soldered the speaker wires outright. Then, soldering them to the Infinity's, I was able to retain the factory harness, unmodified.

If you're like me and you keep every original part that you modfiy or replace, make sure that you mark "+" and "-" on the Delco speakers, because (at least on mine) there were no indications of the polarity on them.

Stuart
35th SS LE #C063
Washington state

[fredmr85]

If you're like me and you keep every original part that you modfiy or replace, make sure that you mark "+" and "-" on the Delco speakers, because (at least

In the event you are ever unsure of polarity, use a 1.5V battery. Connect each end to one of the speakers terminals -- if the cone moves outward, then the positive end of the battery attached is touching the positive terminal of the speaker -- if it moves in, the positive battery terminal is touching the negative speaker terminal.

[mpunklil]

this only works for the speaker, not amplifier polarity.

[fredmr85]

this only works for the speaker, not amplifier polarity.

obviously.......thanks?

[mpunklil]

obviously.......thanks?

nice attitude, simply clarifying for everybody else who DOESNT know this

[fredmr85]

nice attitude, simply clarifying for everybody else who DOESNT know this

wasn't supposed to be attitude; seemed like you were saying I was saying it was for amps or something.. -- and just...well, I wasn't sure what you were attempting to clarify -- how does testing speaker polarity have ANYTHING to do with amplifier's? How could anyone putting a 1.5V battery to a speaker and observing cone movement even think that somehow relates to amplifiers? ....what I said there doesn't even make sense actually - sorry I'm just not sure at ALL what you were getting at since one would never have to test amplifier "polarity"...

[beamatronic]

I just installed my Infinity Kappa 62.7i's last night, using the directions from this article and the power window motor replacement guide on shbox.com. The speakers sound great! I have the treble up all the way because it sure is hard to get good highs from that location low on the door. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all the great info in this article!

[lanny]

Hello everyone.I just bought a pair of Pioneer door speakers 6.5.I have the Monsoon system in my 99 ss.The pioneer only has one set of terminals to connect to and their are two on my stock speakers.I have very little stereo experience.Help Please. Thanks.Lanny

[fredmr85]

Hello everyone.I just bought a pair of Pioneer door speakers 6.5.I have the Monsoon system in my 99 ss.The pioneer only has one set of terminals to connect to and their are two on my stock speakers.I have very little stereo experience.Help Please. Thanks.Lanny
Start a new thread if this doesn't answer you question:

You could do any of the following:

- wire directly to an aftermarket HU or amp (best sounding)

- modify the speaker to act as a "component" set (most difficult and you deface your new speaker)

- use just one pair of wires (easiest option...but won't be as powerful)
--when using one pair, try one pair then the other and use the one that sounds the best... in Camaros, the tweeter signal at the tweeters in the doors is HP filtered from the Monsoon amp -- so the mid/woofer wires would be the better choice since they receive a full signal (the woofer wires also receive more power).

[lanny]

Thank you

[rotwiler]

i've been looking around for replacement door speakers for my '99 Z28 w/monsoon. I notice that that these speakers seem to be a favorite choice, with their dual inputs. But Crutchfield.com says they "do not fit" and suggest a bunch of single input 6.5" door speakers, and then they note "you will only get bass response from these speakers with the stock system" and they reccommend replacing the stock head unit! Weird.


Reason Crutchfields says this, is that if you use the crossover supplied with the 62.7i's then you go back to a single input, since they are made to be a single input type setup. Unless you just use the crossover for the lows and wire the tweeters seperate which some people do(I didn't use the crossover). Since our Camaro's have a crossover built into the monsoon amp everything is all good. The tweeter on the 62.7i has a seperate crossover built in. No matter what they say, these are the best direct replacement speaker made for the Camaro.

[fredmr85]

Reason Crutchfields says this, is that if you use the crossover supplied with the 62.7i's then you go back to a single input, since they are made to be a single input type setup. Unless you just use the crossover for the lows and wire the tweeters seperate which some people do(I didn't use the crossover). Since our Camaro's have a crossover built into the monsoon amp everything is all good. The tweeter on the 62.7i has a seperate crossover built in. No matter what they say, these are the best direct replacement speaker made for the Camaro.
Still doesn't make sense they say you will only get bass -- since if you were using only one pair of wires, the tweeter wires would only give you higher freqs. while the woofer wires are unfiltered... -either way, you get more than bass

agreed though - best replacement for OEM speakers

[chad3113]

Just bought a Trans-Am this weekend, and after reading this thread I'm now confused as to what size of speakers are in the rear hatch area and what size are in the back passenger seat area? Thanks

-Chad

[fredmr85]

Just bought a Trans-Am this weekend, and after reading this thread I'm now confused as to what size of speakers are in the rear hatch area and what size are in the back passenger seat area? Thanks

-Chad

6.5S (6.5" of 6.75") for doors/sails

4" round for hatch

-you have components in both locations

[rotwiler]

Still doesn't make sense they say you will only get bass -- since if you were using only one pair of wires, the tweeter wires would only give you higher freqs. while the woofer wires are unfiltered... -either way, you get more than bass

agreed though - best replacement for OEM speakers

They may be assuming that the Camaro and T/A have the same setup. Is a odd setup with a single speaker and 2 connections on our cars.. Most car audio shops even think the newer Camaro still has the Bose setup, I can only imagine how many people have been ripped off buying useless special adaptors when not needed.

[sh2002]

Just installed a pair of the Infinity 62.7 speakers in the doors of my 02 SS and they worked out great. I'm glad I found this post before I bought some other speakers.

Has anyone used the same speakers for the rear seat panels and just not hooked up the tweeter terminals?

Steve

[fredmr85]

Just installed a pair of the Infinity 62.7 speakers in the doors of my 02 SS and they worked out great. I'm glad I found this post before I bought some other speakers.

Has anyone used the same speakers for the rear seat panels and just not hooked up the tweeter terminals?

Steve
there is no reason you would want to...they don't even play midrange -- just bass freqs.... spent less on a cheap coaxial if you want to do that -- or spend about the same on some nice midbass speakers......... surf the stickies and you'll see the eu700 option

[rotwiler]

there is no reason you would want to...they don't even play midrange -- just bass freqs.... spent less on a cheap coaxial if you want to do that -- or spend about the same on some nice midbass speakers......... surf the stickies and you'll see the eu700 option


I have them in the sailpanel too... I ran the rear hatch speaker wires to the sailpanel to give me highs. Sounds great with a seperate sub and amp. Without a subwoofer in the car the highs would be too much, but with the subs it evens out the sound. They fit in the sailpanel also, but you need to cover up the square cutout under the speaker opening, I used sound deadening. I also set the fader to +2 front and pointed the 62.7i's in the sailpanel toward each other. With my kenwood hu, I set it up to cut some of the highs.

[EPR145]

Just Installed my 62.7's yesterday! Awesome! Thanks for the write up!

[rotwiler]

A reminder to anyone reading this, This is for the Camaro with the monsoon option. I have no idea if the verts have the same setup. The T/A's(Pontiac cars) have seperates in the doors...you could use the 62.7i, but for woofer only and leave the tweeter off..or run the tweeter wire down the the 62.7i, but the factory setup where the tweeter is located would seem a better location to me. Infinity also makes seperates that would work, but I don't own a Pontiac f body and can't suggest what is best since I never installed any in one.

[jacks_ss]

http://www.millionbuy.com/inf627i.html

Good speaker prices. 62.7's for $69.

Can someone clarify. 62.7's can directly replace the factory monsoon door speakers and the impedence difference does not effect performance and they play good and loud? What is the deal with mid panel speakers on a '00 convertible? Are they coax or just subs and are they amplified as well? I read they are free airs. What would match the 62.7's in the mid panels? Something cheaper I suppose and shallow mounting depth. Maybe these for $45?

http://www.millionbuy.com/inf6012i.html

Should I bother saving the monsoon head unit and amps, or shit can the whole system for a nice head unit and 4 channel amp (both of which I have)using these 4 speakers? I am also thinking of using my Infinity BassLink instaled on the passenger side rear floor for the bass installed for quick in and out if necesary.

Thanks

[SSNAKEATER23]

Great write up, it is painless and easy. i will be doing mine this weekend.

[2001SSCamaro#2516]

Thanks for the write up. These speakers were easy to install and fit perfect.
For some reason, they are a bit under powered on my system (Monsoon). I have to change the fader to power the front speakers more (3/4) to hear them properly. They sound great that way, but why are they quieter than the rear speakers now? The install was done exactly like the posted instructions. Tweaters turned all the way up and pointed to the shifter.

[MasterEvilAce]

ORLY? Mine actually OVERPOWER the other speakers.

[earlywheels]

Any real difference in the Kappa Series 62.7i and the Reference Series 6022i ?
All the stores around here seem to carry the Reference Series, which are still 2 ohm speakers but with slightly different specs (180 Watts peak, 60 Watts RMS vs. 225 Watts peak, 75 Watts RMS) (53-21K Hz vs. 45-25K Hz).

Any firsthand experience out there?

[Boefa*Deez]

This may be a stupid question, but will it be obvious on the speaker which wires are which? I just ordered a set, and will (depending on how fast the speakers get here) be replacing them next weekend so they aren't sitting in front of me.

[earlywheels]

This may be a stupid question, but will it be obvious on the speaker which wires are which? I just ordered a set, and will (depending on how fast the speakers get here) be replacing them next weekend so they aren't sitting in front of me.

Afrtemarket speakers: yes
Factory speakers: no

If in doubt, use method in post #47 :drivin:

[earlywheels]

Any real difference in the Kappa Series 62.7i and the Reference Series 6022i ?
All the stores around here seem to carry the Reference Series, which are still 2 ohm speakers but with slightly different specs (180 Watts peak, 60 Watts RMS vs. 225 Watts peak, 75 Watts RMS) (53-21K Hz vs. 45-25K Hz).

Any firsthand experience out there?

ANYBODY? :think:

[Boefa*Deez]

Afrtemarket speakers: yes
Factory speakers: no

If in doubt, use method in post #47 :drivin:
You can tell once you get the speaker out which is which, just mark the wires (in the door and the speaker) beforehand. Then you can see through the foam/screen/whatever where the tweeter wires come through the dome.

[rotwiler]

late post, but the Kappa is 2ohm dual input and Reference is 4ohm single input, you want the dual input 2 ohm for best results. The 62.7i's should not sound overpowered by the rear speakers, if so, something is wrong. I couldn't even tell I had rear speakers once I added the 62.7i's to the doors. Might be the + and - is crossed.

[kool-aide]

hear is a dumb question

what would happen, or what is the worst thing that can happen, if you cross + and - ?

[fredmr85]

hear is a dumb question

what would happen, or what is the worst thing that can happen, if you cross + and - ?
In general - nothing, as long as the opposite side has +/- reversed as well. If only one is reversed - there might be some phasing issues and cancellation of certain frequencies (due to being 180 degrees out of phase). Observing the direction of the cone movement of a midbass speaker will help you determine proper orientation. If you are still unsure, flip it and see if it sounds any better or worse. If you still can't tell, then don't worry about it - it is not going to hurt the speakers.

[kool-aide]

In general - nothing, as long as the opposite side has +/- reversed as well. If only one is reversed - there might be some phasing issues and cancellation of certain frequencies (due to being 180 degrees out of phase). Observing the direction of the cone movement of a midbass speaker will help you determine proper orientation. If you are still unsure, flip it and see if it sounds any better or worse. If you still can't tell, then don't worry about it - it is not going to hurt the speakers.

ah. well i guess i should break, down, bust out the wire diagram, and get them wire right.

when i bought the car all but one speaker was blown, lol.

I took a real cheap ass trip to Waly-World and wired up a new set. I didn't have the radio wire layout then, so i just made my best guess and have been listening to it for about a year now. Heck I can't freakin tell the difference.

the only thing I ever noticed was the rear hatch speakers seem to be the loudest and the rear seat mids are quiet. But the bass is not really that bad, enough to rattle stuff from time to time.

I'm sure I have one or more wired wrong, lol...

[fredmr85]

the only thing I ever noticed was the rear hatch speakers seem to be the loudest and the rear seat mids are quiet.
That seems correct/typical.

[Midnight02]

Great write up. I just installed a pair of Infinity 62.7i's in my doors yesterday and it was a breeze. From start to finish the job took a little over an hour and I took my time. The sound quality is definitely improved over my blown stock speakers!

Once the eu-700's are back in stock at Elemental Designs, I have two that are going to ship to me and they should really compliment the newly brightened mids and highs.

[2001SSCamaro#2516]

Thanks for the write up. These speakers were easy to install and fit perfect.
For some reason, they are a bit under powered on my system (Monsoon). I have to change the fader to power the front speakers more (3/4) to hear them properly. They sound great that way, but why are they quieter than the rear speakers now? The install was done exactly like the posted instructions. Tweaters turned all the way up and pointed to the shifter.

GUESS ITS TIME FOR ME TO TEAR OFF THE DOOR PANELS AGAIN AND SEE WHAT'S UP. I THOUGHT I WAS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WIRING EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT WAS STOCK, BUT WHO KNOWS. I THINK NOW MY REAR SPEAKERS ARE GOING AS WELL. GOTTA FIX THE FRONT FIRST.... I GOT A GOOD DEAL ON THESE SPEAKERS AND WAS WORRIED THEY MIGHT BE DEFECTS. THEY WERE NEW IN THE BOX AND NOT REFURBISHED ACCORDING TO THE SELLER. WHO KNOWS.

[camaro_geek]

Just installed the 62.7s today. It was a breeze thanks to the detailed instructions. Door speakers were blown when I bought the car and now the factory system rocks. Thanks again.

[02SOMZ]

Opinions???


"Infinity Kappa 63.7i speakers add dedicated midrange drivers to give your music's vocals more warmth and texture."
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=108637I&tp=95

[jimmybling31]

nicely done...now, how do you get the door panel off? :lol:

would you like me to do a write up on it? I could. also I could do one on getting alpines into it. just not worth the time. takes 5 mins to figure out. lol

[A35TH-SS]

Purchased 4 Infinity 62.7i speakers to install in my 02 Convertible. I cut off the wires at the terminals then stripped about 3/16" of covering off the wires then resodered them onto the new speakers Red wires are positive (the top connector is the tweeter and the bottom is woofer connection). Very easy and no chance of a loose connection. If you have a sodering gun this is the best way to install the speakers. I purchased a $10 sodering gun kit from Harbor Freight.

Also, When installing the speakers turning the tweeter will increase the sound by 3db. I turned the tweeters up to max and positioned the speaker in the doors so the tweeters were pointing back toward the seat for clearer highs.

In the back I had a restriction in speaker depth due to the convertible top mechanism. The stock rear speaker depth is 1 1/4" but the depth to interfearance with the mechanism was 2" DS and 1 7/8" PS. The Infinity 62.7i speakers have 2 3/16" depth and came with a 1/4" spacer so I used one on the DS and two on the PS to allow clearance for the mechanism. Had to use the longer screws that came with the Infinity speakers since the washer on the stock screws interfears with installing on Infinity speakers but the installation was very easy. GM made the interior trim with enough clearance to allow for the speakers and spacers. Again I cut off the wires at the speaker terminals then stripped about 3/16" of covering off the wires then resodered them onto the Infinity speakers. You will have to cut off the tabs on the spacers as they interfear with the wiring loom. After installing the speakers everything works better than stock. When installing the rear speakers move the wiring below the speaker magnet so it does not touch the top. Small modification: I had to cut two of the screws short as they came in contact with the convertible top. The screws were the two top most screws. Put the top down and look for the speaker screws extending out and touching the convertable top. You maybe able to find shorter screws at the hardware store.

[anchlo]

on the stock wiring the black is neg and the red is pos right?

[BigBrownPilot]

This is for the Camaro(98-02), others years and models may not be the same, so only going with what I know. This is in the hardtop and t top cars with the Monsoon setup.
thought I would do a quick writeup with pictures for those wanting to upgrade the door speakers. Reason I didn't name any other brands is I don't know of any that are 2ohm.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_104.jpg
62.7i and stock speaker side by side(notice the dual connectors on both)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_105.jpg
Top view
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_106.jpg
Shows holes line up
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_107.jpg
Stock speaker in door.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_108.jpg
Stock speaker removed, notice the 2 sets of wires(tweeter/woofer), when removed you may want to mark which one goes to the tweeter and woofer for ease of connecting later.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_109.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_110.jpg
I used a piece of tape to mark the tweeter wires(easy to mix up since they look alike)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_111.jpg
I cut a couple inches of wires off the crossover Infinity supplies with the 62.7i, and spliced the wires into the the factory wires. Don't use the crossover infinity supplies, everything is crossover already. they supply this for cars that don't need a dual input. Plus, the 62.7i has a crossover in the tweeter and the monsoon amp is crossed over for the woofer.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659714_112.jpg
Tweak the tweeter to adjust for best sound(is adjustable to point where you want the sound to go and can turn it for more db's of highs, I turned mine alll the way up and had the tweeter point as close I could get it to the shifter).


Where did the pictures go?

[Mike's02Z28M6]

Yeah, I need to do the speaker mod soon. Chants <where are the photos!>

[02SOMZ]

Just went to Crutchfield to order two sets of these Infinity speakers (front door, rear seat), BUT they claim they will not fit!! WTF?!?!

http://www.synergyontour.com/doesnotfit2.jpg

Do I just ignore this and place the order? Or have they recently changed the product??

Any thoughts?

-John

EDIT Nevermind...

Reason Crutchfields says this, is that if you use the crossover supplied with the 62.7i's then you go back to a single input, since they are made to be a single input type setup. Unless you just use the crossover for the lows and wire the tweeters seperate which some people do(I didn't use the crossover). Since our Camaro's have a crossover built into the monsoon amp everything is all good. The tweeter on the 62.7i has a seperate crossover built in. No matter what they say, these are the best direct replacement speaker made for the Camaro.

[zoomer]

I just installed mine this past weekend-thanks to everyone who posted in this thread!!

Sounds great, easy install. I did desolder the factory harness and resoldered to the Infinity's. Dont listen to Crutchfield, just order them.

[motrhd1]

great info, how did you wire the speaker that way. sounds like you used the infinity crossover connected to just the mid wire and left the factory tweeter wire on the factory tweeter....i need more highs. For a sub woofer I found a 6" DVC 2 ohm replacement woofer at main Street Audio and put that in the sail panel, used dynamat there and on door panels a got a very good surrounding base sound

[motrhd1]

taking off the door panels is not as hard as you would think. I just put dynamat on both doors and what a huge difference more bass no rattle