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Danger731
09-05-2006, 03:07 PM
Ran with him today. It was a slight uphill road. He was in front about 1 1/2 car lead. I came up on him and was in 3rd at 3k RPM :) I took the left lane so he knew I was going for it. He got on it but I pulled him hard. I got next to him still pullin hard when I hit the rev limiter :brick: I suck I know. Hit fourth for a bit till I was a good length in front then I shut down. I pulled in front of him and he got into my old lane. He didn't even look over -wuss.

Stone
09-05-2006, 03:35 PM
Good kill!! I love the "o shit dont look" races!!!:yup:

MikeSomething
09-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Good kill! Yea, I found out that only the STi's are worth our time, not the reg WRX's. Now try an Evo 8.

Danger731
09-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Maybe after I get it bottle fed.

Wesman
09-05-2006, 06:52 PM
Evo and STI's don't have shit from a roll.

Never lost to one, they are only competition heavily modded or from a dig with an AWD launch.

MikeSomething
09-05-2006, 06:57 PM
Evo and STI's don't have shit from a roll.

Never lost to one, they are only competition heavily modded or from a dig with an AWD launch.

An Evo's downfall as I understand is the cam. If they slap in a beefed up cam then they'll have alot more uptop. Just from what I heard tho.

EE1983
09-06-2006, 09:52 AM
An Evo's downfall as I understand is the cam. If they slap in a beefed up cam then they'll have alot more uptop. Just from what I heard tho.

Word Mike.... word. I have yet to have a cammed LS1 take me down from a roll on.. :yup:

A roll on seems to be my strong point

EE1983
09-06-2006, 11:09 AM
Evo and STI's don't have shit from a roll.

Never lost to one, they are only competition heavily modded or from a dig with an AWD launch.

Heavily modded? A 2005 would go head to head from a roll with just exhaust and flash while a 2006 would walk away easy from a roll. A 2005 with cams and you wouldnt be competition. Although, I dont know what you consider "heavily modded".

Roastem
09-06-2006, 01:08 PM
Word Mike.... word. I have yet to have a cammed LS1 take me down from a roll on.. :yup:

A roll on seems to be my strong point


I ran 89 mph through the 1/8th traps at the track. 8.36 with a godawful street tire 2.15 60 ft. You think you could have taken my cammed Z? Have to see to believe it. I have just pulled on way too many to think it would be easy to pull on me. I have raced a couple pullied 03's, and have yet to be defeated. Sure, you can say highway races and a guy blowing his clutch doesn't count, but hell, all they saw was Z tail lights, not other way around.

Damn, I forgot I just slapped a set of heads on her p*ssy, with an electric water pump and about 200 lbs off it. Guess we will never know.

I like EVO's, before any hatred begins, and I got respect for 'em.

You got a time slip EE1983, or at least remember what it was?

Wesman
09-06-2006, 02:17 PM
Heavily modded? A 2005 would go head to head from a roll with just exhaust and flash while a 2006 would walk away easy from a roll. A 2005 with cams and you wouldnt be competition. Although, I dont know what you consider "heavily modded".

Holy shit here comes the rice brigade :rolleyes:

I've never been beaten by an Evo, especially from a roll. You would need to really crank up the boost to be able to hang from a roll, the car is only putting down ~240WHP stock. Everyone claims the 06's are "so much faster", doesn't seem like it to me. Last time I saw an Evo roll race was against a pullied 04 Cobra. It was bus lenghts, they aren't even competition for stock LS1's/Cobras.

You say "well what if I get this mod and that mod" - well I could say the same thing - and a cammed LS1 would rape a cammed Evo. Either way, you lose. Just stop trolling, nobody cares.

I wouldn't be competition to a "2005 with cams"?? Okay riceboy, whatever you say. Maybe I'll catch you on the street sometime, I'll know its an Evo right away when I hear your fart can angry bees exhaust coming up behind me :rotfl:

EE1983
09-06-2006, 02:44 PM
I ran 89 mph through the 1/8th traps at the track. 8.36 with a godawful street tire 2.15 60 ft. You think you could have taken my cammed Z? Have to see to believe it. I have just pulled on way too many to think it would be easy to pull on me. I have raced a couple pullied 03's, and have yet to be defeated. Sure, you can say highway races and a guy blowing his clutch doesn't count, but hell, all they saw was Z tail lights, not other way around.

Damn, I forgot I just slapped a set of heads on her p*ssy, with an electric water pump and about 200 lbs off it. Guess we will never know.

I like EVO's, before any hatred begins, and I got respect for 'em.

You got a time slip EE1983, or at least remember what it was?

Actually I do, I went 90mph in the 1/8th... with a 2.0 60' if IIRC. No launch obviously. Thats on straight 93pump too.

EE1983
09-06-2006, 02:50 PM
Holy shit here comes the rice brigade :rolleyes:

I've never been beaten by an Evo, especially from a roll. You would need to really crank up the boost to be able to hang from a roll, the car is only putting down ~240WHP stock. Everyone claims the 06's are "so much faster", doesn't seem like it to me. Last time I saw an Evo roll race was against a pullied 04 Cobra. It was bus lenghts, they aren't even competition for stock LS1's/Cobras.

No rice here, sorry. Congrats youve never been beaten by an EVO. Ive never been beaten by an F-bod. Your point?

A pullied Cobra would destroy a stock EVO or one that is not cammed. I have cams, and some bolt ons so I can pull them. I cant pull them if they are tuned, pullied and full bolt on though. No suprise.


You say "well what if I get this mod and that mod" - well I could say the same thing - and a cammed LS1 would rape a cammed Evo. Either way, you lose. Just stop trolling, nobody cares.

Yeah but they dont, at least not in my case. Ive raced 2 cammed LS1s so far and both have been dead heats. One is a member here and LS1tech, he can tell you the same thing.


I wouldn't be competition to a "2005 with cams"?? Okay riceboy, whatever you say. Maybe I'll catch you on the street sometime, I'll know its an Evo right away when I hear your fart can angry bees exhaust coming up behind
me

Correct, youd get walked on. Maybe youll catch me someday on the street. I can only pray for that. Id embarass you from any speed you can think of. In fact since we're both in NJ why dont you come down my way and Ill set it up. However, wouldnt bother unless you had a cam installed or some nitrous.

Invitation is open...

MikeSomething
09-06-2006, 03:14 PM
Wow... Tell me when the race is! :yup:

Wesman
09-06-2006, 06:29 PM
No rice here, sorry. Congrats youve never been beaten by an EVO. Ive never been beaten by an F-bod. Your point?

My point is Evos are overrated. They are a joke from a roll unless they are heavily modded. Meaning pushing some serious boost over stock.

Yeah but they dont, at least not in my case. Ive raced 2 cammed LS1s so far and both have been dead heats. One is a member here and LS1tech, he can tell you the same thing.

Let me guess - it was an automatic :rolleyes:

Correct, youd get walked on. Maybe youll catch me someday on the street. I can only pray for that. Id embarass you from any speed you can think of. In fact since we're both in NJ why dont you come down my way and Ill set it up. However, wouldnt bother unless you had a cam installed or some nitrous.

Invitation is open...

Your Evo won't walk on shit. You have cams and some bolt ons - not impressed. Unless those cams and bolt ons are giving you 60WHP over stock, then you aren't running with shit. I thought you ricers knew better than to fuck with LS1's on the highway - your little 4 banger would get raped.

Congrats on paying 30K for a car with no balls and a riceburner exhaust. I'd be great to embarass your piece of trash mitsubitchi.

Musclefan21
09-06-2006, 07:52 PM
so these new STIs can beat LS1s? or 06 mustang GTs? also can l beat evo 8s with my mustang GT? and how about evo 9?? LS1 or new stangs can beat them?

EE1983
09-06-2006, 09:40 PM
My point is Evos are overrated. They are a joke from a roll unless they are heavily modded. Meaning pushing some serious boost over stock.



Let me guess - it was an automatic :rolleyes:.

Nope, both M6s :hahano: Serious boost over stock?????? I run 22-23psi, stock is 20.5? Is that major? Comeonnnnn



Your Evo won't walk on shit. You have cams and some bolt ons - not impressed. Unless those cams and bolt ons are giving you 60WHP over stock, then you aren't running with shit. I thought you ricers knew better than to fuck with LS1's on the highway - your little 4 banger would get raped.


It wont? It will certainly walk on yours. Yes I have cams and bolt-ons and heres where you are really dumb... 60whp over stock? Try more than 100whp over stock. 60? you wish.

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Congrats on paying 30K for a car with no balls and a riceburner exhaust. I'd be great to embarass your piece of trash mitsubitchi.


Come embarass me then.... Id LOVE to see you underpowered heavier car beat mine. You have gears, exhaust, etc? Come over with your 320whp TA and try and touch me. Youd be a waste to race to be honest, like I said, unless you get some nitrous or a cam...

Congrats on being an ignorant douche. No balls? Hmm, 70mph slalom, .90g skidpad, low 12 quarter, incredible braking, 4 doors and AWD. Yeah no balls there :brick:

Your such a dumbass Ill pay for your gas to come down here so I can walk all over your car from any roll-on youd like. Im waiting.... stop talking :yup:

Wesman
09-06-2006, 10:02 PM
Nope, both M6s :hahano: Serious boost over stock?????? I run 22-23psi, stock is 20.5? Is that major? Comeonnnnn

Its an increase in boost. Thats my point. The more bolt ons you do to increase airflow in the motor, the less boost you push. You'd probably be pushing 30PSI if your engine didn't have full bolt ons.

It wont? It will certainly walk on yours. Yes I have cams and bolt-ons and heres where you are really dumb... 60whp over stock? Try more than 100whp over stock. 60? you wish.

Yea, I'll believe that when your shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert :rotfl:

You honestly think that with cams and bolt ons you are putting down 340HP at the wheels?? What kind of drugs are you on?? Because it seems like all you ricers are on the same shit. Thats ridiculous. Until you post up a 340+WHP AWD dyno graph, you're just talking out your ass.

Come embarass me then.... Id LOVE to see you underpowered heavier car beat mine. You have gears, exhaust, etc? Come over with your 320whp TA and try and touch me. Youd be a waste to race to be honest, like I said, unless you get some nitrous or a cam...

My underpowered heavier car...holy fuck you're a retard. My LS1 can hang with a Terminator, which would absolutely destroy your riceburner piece of shit. You think I'd need nitrous to beat a cammed Evo?? Get real moron, your car isn't shit.

Congrats on being an ignorant douche. No balls? Hmm, 70mph slalom, .90g skidpad, low 12 quarter, incredible braking, 4 doors and AWD. Yeah no balls there :brick:

When your car makes more power than a Honda Civic below 3KRPM come back and talk shit. Your gutless 4 banger doesn't have any balls until the turbo spools at 3,000RPM, before that it drives like any other piece of shit 4 cylinder. Now you're claiming a low 12 second 1/4 mile for a stock Evo?? Lay off the crack riceboy.

Your such a dumbass Ill pay for your gas to come down here so I can walk all over your car from any roll-on youd like. Im waiting.... stop talking :yup:

No you won't because you're all talk. You won't pay for shit, you'd pussy out on racing, you are a typical ricer. Stop wasting everyone's time posting here, you're a toolbag.

Wesman
09-06-2006, 10:19 PM
so these new STIs can beat LS1s?or 06 mustang GTs?

Not even close. From a dig then can hang, from a roll its total rape.

also can l beat evo 8s with my mustang GT? and how about evo 9?? LS1 or new stangs can beat them?

You can take them from a dig no problem if you get sticky tires. From a roll you can rip on them bone stock. LS1's destroy Evo 9's from a roll, from a dig its a close race for the 1st 1/4 mile. Then its bye bye Evo.

EE1983
09-06-2006, 10:52 PM
Its an increase in boost. Thats my point. The more bolt ons you do to increase airflow in the motor, the less boost you push. You'd probably be pushing 30PSI if your engine didn't have full bolt ons.

No youre point was just what you said "They are a joke from a roll unless they are heavily modded. Meaning pushing some serious boost over stock.

Serious boost is not 2-3psi over stock. End of story. The max psi you run run on pump gas with the stock turbo is 22-23psi.

Ok wait let me get this one... the more airflow I get in the motor the less boost I push... say that out loud...

Please dont try and talk about things you dont know about.


You honestly think that with cams and bolt ons you are putting down 340HP at the wheels?? What kind of drugs are you on?? Because it seems like all you ricers are on the same shit. Thats ridiculous. Until you post up a 340+WHP AWD dyno graph, you're just talking out your ass.


Uh-oh. Someone needs a reality check. :ughlaugh:

Cams and bolt-ons with 340whp? Um yeah thats the norm pal. Please dont make me copy and paste 100 dynos of EVOs with their mods.... man I thought you knew this stuff, youre really in the dark.

I got my car dynoed 3 months after I got it. 2005 EVO with 3500 miles in March of 05:

Mods:
Intake
Full Exhaust
Lower IC pipe
272 Cams
ECU Flash

Here is the Dyno: Guess Im not talking out of my ass huh? 346awhp
http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/45e7e22767.jpg




My underpowered heavier car...holy fuck you're a retard. My LS1 can hang with a Terminator, which would absolutely destroy your riceburner piece of shit. You think I'd need nitrous to beat a cammed Evo?? Get real moron, your car isn't shit.

Yeah my car walks on stock Terminators, big deal. I said YOU'D need nitrous to beat me. Why? Because with your mods, youre not gonna come close to me.


When your car makes more power than a Honda Civic below 3KRPM come back and talk shit. Your gutless 4 banger doesn't have any balls until the turbo spools at 3,000RPM, before that it drives like any other piece of shit 4 cylinder. Now you're claiming a low 12 second 1/4 mile for a stock Evo?? Lay off the crack riceboy.

Funny Im actually making great power down low. Thanks, just check the dyno. Also, I dont need to make tons of power down below 3000 like you do... why? Because of short gearing (4.60 range) and also because my car revs to 7500 not 6300 like yours. I hope this isnt too over the top for you.

BTW
When did I say low 12 second 1/4 for stock EVO? Im talking about MY CAR. Yes the lowly bolt-on cammed EVO. Hell I can go 11s with a great launch.


No you won't because you're all talk. You won't pay for shit, you'd pussy out on racing, you are a typical ricer. Stop wasting everyone's time posting here, you're a toolbag.


Im up for racing ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. I WILL pay for your gas money to come here, its worth it to just shut your thick-headed ass up. Like I said, invitation is open... you're the one talking a lot. If you dont wanna come, I understand :giveup:

Anything else you need proof of, dynos, timeslips? :ughlaugh:

EE1983
09-06-2006, 10:56 PM
BTW, that 346awhp is my OLD dyno.. I have some other small bolt-ons now. Still up for that race?

Danger731
09-07-2006, 04:06 AM
I must say you two win the highjack the thread award. Start to PM each other (where this BS belongs or start your own thread) or I'll ask someone to take a look at this thread.

Roastem
09-07-2006, 05:34 AM
Nice trap. That thing has some power. Still though, in my cars old form, it would have been REAL Close. I don't think there would have been much pullage on either side. Driver's race, definately.

mrr23
09-07-2006, 06:35 AM
yeah, tone it down a little. trash talk is okay. keep the you're a retard type comments out. the my car will kicks your car's butt is okay.

EE1983
09-07-2006, 08:58 AM
yeah, tone it down a little. trash talk is okay. keep the you're a retard type comments out. the my car will kicks your car's butt is okay.

Gotcha :nana:

EE1983
09-07-2006, 09:04 AM
Nice trap. That thing has some power. Still though, in my cars old form, it would have been REAL Close. I don't think there would have been much pullage on either side. Driver's race, definately.

Well like I said in my previous posts, 2 friends of mine who have cammed LS1 M6s who Ive raced were both dead heats and very even. I didnt say I coudl pull on them, because I didnt. But they could not pull on me either. Its definitely a driver's race! However according to Wesman there is no WAY a cammed EVO could do this :ughlaugh:

Roastem
09-07-2006, 09:51 AM
Well like I said in my previous posts, 2 friends of mine who have cammed LS1 M6s who Ive raced were both dead heats and very even. I didnt say I coudl pull on them, because I didnt. But they could not pull on me either. Its definitely a driver's race! However according to Wesman there is no WAY a cammed EVO could do this :ughlaugh:

Is that massive KFC I smell?? Go race him Wesman, since you ARE in New Jersey, and he called your ass out. The talk is over. Hell, he even said he would pay for your gas just to race you.

By the way, Motor Trend is on record having a STOCK EVO like his being faster than a stock Terminator.

You might see the ass end of that four-banger. Then he is gonna post the kill, with reference to this thread, and it is gonna be real embarassing. :crickets:

I would love to race you EE1983, but I ain't driving all the way to NJ to do it, even if you pay for gas!

Wesman
09-07-2006, 11:38 AM
Is that massive KFC I smell?? Go race him Wesman, since you ARE in New Jersey, and he called your ass out. The talk is over. Hell, he even said he would pay for your gas just to race you.

I'm not going to waste my time and money, because he's going to pussy out. Theres a million other shitty Evos I can race around here, I'm not going to drive down to try and prove something to a ricer.

By the way, Motor Trend is on record having a STOCK EVO like his being faster than a stock Terminator.

I remember that test. They started the Cobra out in 2nd gear and shifted at 3,000RPM :haha:

You might see the ass end of that four-banger. Then he is gonna post the kill, with reference to this thread, and it is gonna be real embarassing.

Nothings going to happen because he's all talk. I'd drive down there and he would be nowhere to be found. Waste of my time and money. Like I said, if I want to race a 4 banger Jap car, theres plenty of those pieces of shit around my area.

Wesman
09-07-2006, 12:05 PM
Ok wait let me get this one... the more airflow I get in the motor the less boost I push... say that out loud...
Please dont try and talk about things you dont know about.

Stupid ricers....don't even know how their own car works :rotfl:

First off, boost is a measurement of pressure. So the more restriction the motor has on the intake/exhaust sides, the more pressure is going to build up between the turbo and the intake.

If you take a stock Evo and add full intake and exhaust systems, the boost pressure is actually going to go down. Unless of course the ECU compensates for the decreased restriction and ups the stock boost pressure.

Therefore the claimed 22-23PSI you are pushing on your car would most likely be closer to 30PSI on a stock motor. In the same way, your car would be faster than an otherwise stock Evo running 23PSI - even though you are both pushing the same boost.

The fact that you didn't know that just proves that you are a typical no nothing ricer.

Yeah my car walks on stock Terminators, big deal. I said YOU'D need nitrous to beat me. Why? Because with your mods, youre not gonna come close to me.

What are my mods anyhow?? Since you seem to know it all. You don't even know what I have done to my car, yet you're claiming you can beat me no problem. Typical ricer.

Cams and bolt-ons with 340whp? Um yeah thats the norm pal. Please dont make me copy and paste 100 dynos of EVOs with their mods.... man I thought you knew this stuff, youre really in the dark.

I'm going to say this and I'm going to say it only one. You can polish a turd all you like, but its still just a piece of shit. Your Evo could be running 8's in the 1/4 and have 1000HP - would it matter though?? NO, because its still an ugly ass Jap crap 4 door family sedan with a hideos wing and a riceburner 4 banger. Since you might have trouble comprehending that, I'll make it easier: I don't like your car, regardless of how fast it may or may not be. Therefore I don't care whether or not I can or can't beat you - its pointless, because either way I think your car, as well as Mitsubishi as a whole, as pieces of shit.

Funny Im actually making great power down low. Thanks, just check the dyno. Also, I dont need to make tons of power down below 3000 like you do... why? Because of short gearing (4.60 range) and also because my car revs to 7500 not 6300 like yours. I hope this isnt too over the top for you.

Nope, its not. I'm sure its awesome having a car with a shitty 4 banger that makes economy car power between idle and 3,000RPM. Makes a real nice daily driver, driving gutless cars is fun. And of course you can bring it into boost, but then your fuel economy goes down the toilet. My LS1 pulls hard right from idle. Thats why I like it, I hate gutless motors that sound like rice.

I'm done with you. I think I made myself pretty clear - I don't care about your gutless piece of shit Evo, how fast it is, or how "sick" you think it is. This is LS1.com, not a ricer site, so stop bragging about your riceburner. Its not winning or losing that matters, its having a respectalbe car thats still fast without looking like its from an anime cartoon or sounding like a weedwacker. My car accomploishes that - your car doesn't even come close. Thats my point.

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:17 PM
I'm not going to waste my time and money, because he's going to pussy out. Theres a million other shitty Evos I can race around here, I'm not going to drive down to try and prove something to a ricer.

Actually looks like youre the one pussying out, not me. I said the inviation is open, Im always around cruising Rt37.. In fact, a fellow member on this site "MIKESOMETHING" who posted in this thread has come down and cruised with me and a few buddies.

If you did drive down here the only thing you'd prove is that you've made a complete fool of yourself here by making ridiculous claims that youd actually beat me. You doubted the power I can make, I showed you dynos and I have timeslips, yet for some reason all you have done is say "I wont show up" blah blah blah. Looks like your the one making excuses, not me Im waiting....


Nothings going to happen because he's all talk. I'd drive down there and he would be nowhere to be found. Waste of my time and money. Like I said, if I want to race a 4 banger Jap car, theres plenty of those pieces of shit around my area.

Acutally it looks like youre all talk here not me. Maybe it's a good thing you're doing the reverse psych thing and saying that I'd be nowhere to be found. Im the one who challenged you and youre the one backing down.

Lets get some things cleared up. I dont drive a Honda and its not slow and it doesnt sound like one. I know you have preconceived notions that all imports are "ricers" and slow yada yada. Whatever. Im sorry your too ignorant to see beyond that. I like both domestics and imports and I'm not here to say my car is incredible, however when you say retarded and fictional things about my car, I will defend it.

I told you to come down and you're the one backing off. On Friday and Saturday nights down here in TR there are TONS of cars cruising and looking to race and people from as far as Trenton come to cruise and race. As I said before, Mikesomething came down and has cruised and raced some cars down here... in fact he messaged me to race and he came down and we set it up :yup:

Yet for some reason you think Im going to not show up for you? :giveup:

Roastem
09-07-2006, 12:22 PM
That race is never going to happen. One's scared and the other one is glad of it. This thread is getting quite heated. EE1983 is prolly typing his ass off right now. :lol:

Wesman
09-07-2006, 12:23 PM
Heres something I found for entertainment:

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/65b33d796e.jpg

:haha:

Roastem
09-07-2006, 12:27 PM
:haha:

Damn, that's f*cked up.

Where is mrr23 when you need him? He usually walks around with a damn Masterlock in his pocket.

How many of us are at work right now, and instead of doing what we are paid to do, we are talkin' trash and bashin' each others rides?

I remember that test. They started the Cobra out in 2nd gear and shifted at 3,000RPM

I didn't know that. Kinda like fighting with one hand tied or sumthin'.

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:30 PM
Stupid ricers....don't even know how their own car works :rotfl:

First off, boost is a measurement of pressure. So the more restriction the motor has on the intake/exhaust sides, the more pressure is going to build up between the turbo and the intake.

If you take a stock Evo and add full intake and exhaust systems, the boost pressure is actually going to go down. Unless of course the ECU compensates for the decreased restriction and ups the stock boost pressure.




Therefore the claimed 22-23PSI you are pushing on your car would most likely be closer to 30PSI on a stock motor. In the same way, your car would be faster than an otherwise stock Evo running 23PSI - even though you are both pushing the same boost.

You really proven that you have no idea what youre talking about, I suggest you relax and stick to N/A motors.

The only thing you said correct there was that boost is a measurement of pressure. Everything after that makes no sense and is completely wrong. The boost does not go down my adding modifications. Funny you think you actually know something LOL.


The fact that you didn't know that just proves that you are a typical no nothing ricer.

Its actually "know". But regardless, what you just said is ass-backwards, I think youre the typical guy who thinks he knows everything about everything... butttt you dont!


ith a shitty 4 banger that makes economy car power between idle and 3,000RPM. Makes a real nice daily driver, driving gutless cars is fun. And of course you can bring it into boost, but then your fuel economy goes down the toilet. My LS1 pulls hard right from idle. Thats why I like it, I hate gutless motors that sound like rice.

Who gives 2 flying F's about power between 0 and 3,000rpm. To start it does makes plenty of low end power and secondly, if you knew ANYTHING you'd understand what I said before. Higher redlines and much shorter gearing allow the car to accelerate quickly from lower RPMs. Like I said before, I bet thats over your head.


I'm done with you. I think I made myself pretty clear - I don't care about your gutless piece of shit Evo, how fast it is, or how "sick" you think it is. This is LS1.com, not a ricer site, so stop bragging about your riceburner. Its not winning or losing that matters, its having a respectalbe car thats still fast without looking like its from an anime cartoon or sounding like a weedwacker. My car accomploishes that - your car doesn't even come close. Thats my point.

I dont care if you care and there is no place I said I do. Youre right, it is about those things and thats your PERSONAL OPINION. Last time I checked, your opinion is not the only one that counts.

The points you have covered in this thread were all proven wrong by me. You acted like I was crazy when I said EVOs made 340awhp with cams and bolt-ons. Then I show you a dyno and you say nothing.

Then you start rambling about low end power! Then you start in trying to tell me about boost pressure and that I actually run 30psi. Holy crap. Go read a book already.

My bottom line point is that you talked sh*t and cant back it up. I told you to come down here and race me. Bottom line, you wont. You just insist I wont show up, yet Ive already met up with members of this board before and raced them. I wouldnt treat you any differently.

How do I know your mods? Your first post you listed them.

I seriously pity people like you. Its a shame there are people in this world as thick-headed as youve shown to be here. Youve really made yourself look like a fool. You go from one thing to the next just babbling about things you dont even know about. Im running 30psi. HAHAHAAH I cant get over this.

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:34 PM
Heres something I found for entertainment:

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/65b33d796e.jpg

:haha:


Wow that really hurts my feelings. After Im done crying maybe youll come race me? Or nah.. just sit behind the comp and TALK.. TALK.. and TALK some more.

Whoever made up that picture is probably autistic

Wesman
09-07-2006, 12:38 PM
Actually looks like youre the one pussying out, not me. I said the inviation is open, Im always around cruising Rt37.. In fact, a fellow member on this site "MIKESOMETHING" who posted in this thread has come down and cruised with me and a few buddies.

Ricers love doing this. "Come meet me here and we'll race, I'll be cruising the strip". Then you go there and they are nowhere to be found. If you were 15 minutes away I wouldn't care, but its not worth driving down to race someone who I don't even know nor really care to race. Like I said 2 times already, theres plenty of shitty jap cars in my area to race already. You want to come here be my guest, me and a bunch of guys meet up on weekends on the main drag. Most of us got Cobras and LS1's.

If you did drive down here the only thing you'd prove is that you've made a complete fool of yourself here by making ridiculous claims that youd actually beat me. You doubted the power I can make, I showed you dynos and I have timeslips, yet for some reason all you have done is say "I wont show up" blah blah blah. Looks like your the one making excuses, not me Im waiting....

What are my mods again?? How are you so sure you'll beat me?? Exactly.


Lets get some things cleared up. I dont drive a Honda and its not slow and it doesnt sound like one.

Evo drivers are always in denial of this. Yes, your car is a 2.0L 4 cylinder. Yes, it sounds like a Honda with a fart can. No, there nothing you can do about it unless you buy a different car.

I know you have preconceived notions that all imports are "ricers" and slow yada yada. Whatever. Im sorry your too ignorant to see beyond that. I like both domestics and imports and I'm not here to say my car is incredible, however when you say retarded and fictional things about my car, I will defend it.


You're bragging about your crappy Evo on an LS1 website. Please, get a life.

I said nothing "retarded" or "fictional" about your car. Stock Evos are slow from a roll. Evos sound like shit. Evos look like shit. Evos have a huge ugly ass wing coming off the back. Evos are 4 door family cars. Evos don't have any low end power because they are only 4 bangers, and you have to wait for the turbo to spool.

Sorry, thats how it is, deal with reality.

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:38 PM
I really shouldnt even be arguing back to you. Youve done nothing but prove that you are immature, compeltely knowledgeless and filled with bigotry. You are really something else. Anway.. keep talking haha.

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:43 PM
Ricers love doing this. "Come meet me here and we'll race, I'll be cruising the strip". Then you go there and they are nowhere to be found. If you were 15 minutes away I wouldn't care, but its not worth driving down to race someone who I don't even know nor really care to race. Like I said 2 times already, theres plenty of shitty jap cars in my area to race already. You want to come here be my guest, me and a bunch of guys meet up on weekends on the main drag. Most of us got Cobras and LS1's.

Youre really stuck on this huh. I guess you just missed where I wrote that ive met up with member of this board before and raced them.

Hell, Ill come race you where you are if you want, but I bet I wouldnt show up right? HAHA I made the offer, you wont oblige.


What are my mods again?? How are you so sure you'll beat me?? Exactly.

Unless you added a cam, supercharger or some nitrous, yes Im definitely gonna walk your ass.




Evo drivers are always in denial of this. Yes, your car is a 2.0L 4 cylinder. Yes, it sounds like a Honda with a fart can. No, there nothing you can do about it unless you buy a different car.

Yes my car is a 2L 4cy turbo... no it doesnt sound like a Honda.. if it did, I wouldnt have bought it.
The only thing you can do is read a book and get educated.



You're bragging about your crappy Evo on an LS1 website. Please, get a life.

I said nothing "retarded" or "fictional" about your car. Stock Evos are slow from a roll. Evos sound like shit. Evos look like shit. Evos have a huge ugly ass wing coming off the back. Evos are 4 door family cars. Evos don't have any low end power because they are only 4 bangers, and you have to wait for the turbo to spool.

Sorry, thats how it is, deal with reality.

You havent? How bout "EVOs cant make 340awhp with cams and bolt-ons" or "Cammed LS1 would rape cammed EVO". Both ficitonal and of course retarded. My car is 4 door... sooo I can more room and can still kick your ass :-) I gues you missed the post AGAIN how the car does have low end and has short gearing along with higher redline.... I dont cruise at 1500rpm like you.. why? Dont have to!

Unbelievable!

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:46 PM
BTW heres a vid of an EVO with cams and boltons racing a 2000 TA with gears, intake, catback. Too bad is was an A4, and the TA got the jump.

Listen to that weedwacker EVO hahahaha

http://media.putfile.com/Bolt-on-TA-vs-Electric-EVO

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:51 PM
Ok listen, Im done here and you should be too. We are clouding up the thread with bickering. If youd like to come race and even hang out down here to get some new races, let me know via PM. Youre welcome to come. Good luck with your life otherwise.

-Tom

Roastem
09-07-2006, 12:52 PM
Damn, I wish I could see putfile videos on this crap work computer.

I think you two would come to blows if this were in person. haha :boxing:

your car has a fart can jab jab

listen to that turbo pull your ass jab uppercut jab

you got a gay *ss wing and crappy stickers right cross job left hook to the body

you don't know sh*t 'bout evos jab uppercut left hook

hahahaha

EE1983
09-07-2006, 12:58 PM
In real life Im a nice guy and unlike this guy Wesman Im open and not opinionated. Sure I have preferences but who doesnt. Mikesomething from this board came down to race me and we hung out, raced and now he comes down from time to time to race. He's a cool guy.

Wesman
09-07-2006, 12:58 PM
You really proven that you have no idea what youre talking about, I suggest you relax and stick to N/A motors.

The only thing you said correct there was that boost is a measurement of pressure. Everything after that makes no sense and is completely wrong. The boost does not go down my adding modifications. Funny you think you actually know something LOL.

You, sir, are a complete fool. I can't believe that you are argueing it, thats how boost works, like it or not. I've seen it with S/C Cobras as well as Cobalt SS S/Cs, less restriction = less boost, unless you turn up the boost pressure. Stop arguring with the facts, go look it up.

Who gives 2 flying F's about power between 0 and 3,000rpm. To start it does makes plenty of low end power and secondly, if you knew ANYTHING you'd understand what I said before. Higher redlines and much shorter gearing allow the car to accelerate quickly from lower RPMs. Like I said before, I bet thats over your head.

Oh, I dunno, maybe people who actually drive their cars on a daily basis and don't feel like taking the RPM's way to up make any power?? Your car drives like a Honda Civic at 3,000RPM and below, just face the facts riceboy :rotfl:

I bet short gearing's also really cool when you go on the highway and turn 3500RPM at normal highway speed in top gear. Yea, having no low end powe is real awesome :ughlaugh:

I dont care if you care and there is no place I said I do. Youre right, it is about those things and thats your PERSONAL OPINION. Last time I checked, your opinion is not the only one that counts.

Ahh..but we are on LS1.com. Therefore you bragging about rice is stupid and pointless. I would go on EvoNation.com or whatever and start bragging about my T/A, thats just stupid.

Then you start rambling about low end power! Then you start in trying to tell me about boost pressure and that I actually run 30psi. Holy crap. Go read a book already.

No, toolshed, I said you'd be running close to 30PSI if your motor was all stock and you just upped the boost. Read what I wrote before you open your mouth.

My bottom line point is that you talked sh*t and cant back it up. I told you to come down here and race me. Bottom line, you wont. You just insist I wont show up, yet Ive already met up with members of this board before and raced them. I wouldnt treat you any differently.

Sure you wouldn't. Especially not after getting into this huge arguement and me telling you what a piece of shit i think your car is...:bs:

I seriously pity people like you. Its a shame there are people in this world as thick-headed as youve shown to be here. Youve really made yourself look like a fool. You go from one thing to the next just babbling about things you dont even know about. Im running 30psi. HAHAHAAH I cant get over this.

And once again another ricer proves how stupid he is. The concept of boost related to engine restriction just goes right over your head. Get a clue, you are an idiot :rolleyes:

Wesman
09-07-2006, 01:04 PM
Unless you added a cam, supercharger or some nitrous, yes Im definitely gonna walk your ass.

Wow...just wow. You honestly think I'd need a S/C to hang with your modded Evo?? If I had an S/C I would walk your piece of shit by BUSLENGTHS.

Full bolt ons is more than enough to nhang with your cammed 4 banger.


Yes my car is a 2L 4cy turbo... no it doesnt sound like a Honda.. if it did, I wouldnt have bought it.
The only thing you can do is read a book and get educated.

You can't hear what a car sounds like through a book. You just posted a video of an Evo. You're obviously in denile, because that sounds like COMPLETE SHIT.

You havent? How bout "EVOs cant make 340awhp with cams and bolt-ons" or "Cammed LS1 would rape cammed EVO". Both ficitonal and of course retarded. My car is 4 door... sooo I can more room and can still kick your ass :-) I gues you missed the post AGAIN how the car does have low end and has short gearing along with higher redline.... I dont cruise at 1500rpm like you.. why? Dont have to!

You don't cruise at 1500RPM because you CAN'T -not because you don't have to. Your car would fall flat on its face and go nowhere. God you are pathetic, just like your riceburner and its angry bees exhaust note.

Roastem
09-07-2006, 01:05 PM
:Popcorn: Anybody else watching this?
99HuggerOrangeZ, Danger731, EE1983, TheKitchenSink, Wesman

these people

MikeSomething
09-07-2006, 01:56 PM
In real life Im a nice guy and unlike this guy Wesman Im open and not opinionated. Sure I have preferences but who doesnt. Mikesomething from this board came down to race me and we hung out, raced and now he comes down from time to time to race. He's a cool guy.

I'll vouch for him, he'll show man. But if you guys setup the race lemme know, don't keep me in the dark. If EE1983 loses, I'll guarentee he'll be cool about it. I myself am in it more for the fun, not the talkin smack. I like to think of rice as slow Civics and Integras w/ the stupid wing and graffix, not a $30k AWD car w/ work done to it. There's "Imports", than there's "Rice"...

Wesman
09-07-2006, 02:02 PM
I'll vouch for him, he'll show man. But if you guys setup the race lemme know, don't keep me in the dark. If EE1983 loses, I'll guarentee he'll be cool about it. I myself am in it more for the fun, not the talkin smack. I like to think of rice as slow Civics and Integras w/ the stupid wing and graffix, not a $30k AWD car w/ work done to it. There's "Imports", than there's "Rice"...

Yep, pretty much. Plenty of imports aren't rice. Sporty Jap imports = rice.

Whats the difference between a riced out Integra or Civic and an Evo?? They both look like shit, have huge tacky wings, and sound like complete ass. I don't see the difference, just because one is faster.

mrr23
09-07-2006, 02:37 PM
ok, this one's gone far enough. either race or don't. i still see too much jabbing at the person and not the car.