This thread is a little slim so I'll post some videos

[Killer_bluebird]

Nelson Ledges Track Day (last session) (http://www.therenderranch.com/killer_bluebird/Nelson%20Ledges%2008-11-06_Last%20Sesion.wmv)
A run at the last AutoX (ASCC) (http://www.therenderranch.com/killer_bluebird/ASCC_Auto-X.wmv)

Enjoy

[1fastcamarosss11]

outstanding, sorry i missed it had to work 9am- 7 pm. let me know next time something comes up.

[Killer_bluebird]

John and I where wondering what happened to you. Here are some pictures of the event.

http://www.autox.net/albums/August6th,2006Event-Eastlake/AutoX_08_06_06_Eastlake_001.sized.jpghttp://www.autox.net/albums/August6th,2006Event-Eastlake/AutoX_08_06_06_Eastlake_002.sized.jpghttp://www.autox.net/albums/August6th,2006Event-Eastlake/AutoX_08_06_06_Eastlake_140.sized.jpghttp://www.autox.net/albums/August6th,2006Event-Eastlake/AutoX_08_06_06_Eastlake_142.sized.jpghttp://www.autox.net/albums/August6th,2006Event-Eastlake/AutoX_08_06_06_Eastlake_148.sized.jpghttp://www.autox.net/albums/August6th,2006Event-Eastlake/AutoX_08_06_06_Eastlake_149.sized.jpghttp://www.autox.net/albums/August6th,2006Event-Eastlake/AutoX_08_06_06_Eastlake_169.sized.jpg

God willing I'll be attending the event on September 17th. I believe John will be able to make it also. I'm going to be at Nelson Ledges for an open Track Day too on Friday Aug. 25th. Pm if you are interested in details.

[viper99ta]

You've got to get out for the next one!

[third_shift|studios]

OMG! that first vid was sweet!!! Once he figured it out, he was doing abotu 110 around that one corner! That dude in the second vid better keep his elbows up! LOL

good shit, i'm intrested in this stuff now b/c i hav a wicked suspension set up and it's good to watch vids of pros, or otherwise and how they approach, etc.

[Killer_bluebird]

OMG! that first vid was sweet!!! Once he figured it out, he was doing abotu 110 around that one corner!
Yeah Nelson Ledges is really fast. My average Lap Speed is about 81+ on street tires. It will get more interesting next week when I'll bring some race rubber. My 18" rear tires where rubbing bad now that the car is lowered. I need a bigger spacer. No problems on the street though and the race tires are on 17" rims so there is no rubbing problem there.


good shit, i'm intrested in this stuff now b/c i hav a wicked suspension set up and it's good to watch vids of pros, or otherwise and how they approach, etc.

No Pro's here. I'm still very green. But Learning a lot. Our cars can be wicked fast in the hands of a good driver (too bad I ain't it :lol:)

Here is what happens when a tire rub unsettles the suspenssion and causes your car to get loose exiting a corner.
Fun Ride (http://www.therenderranch.com/killer_bluebird/Nelson%20Ledges%2008-11-06_Oops.wmv)

[Red Baron]

Have you ever autocrossed your ride? How did it do ? What class does it run?

[Killer_bluebird]

Red Baron, Who are you directing the question too?

[viper99ta]

shiftstudios

The reason the 2 videos are different is in the first one killer_bluebird is road racing, in the second one he's autox'ing. Autox requires much faster response time on the wheel and much quicker inputs than road racing.

To the other question about autox, both killer_bliebird and I are in CP.

[BrandonDrecksage]

wow..nice vids..have any more autocross ones..car sounds mean as hell. I'm trying to get into a lil auto crossing.

[Killer_bluebird]

I'll see what I can dig up.

[Lawnman]

Great videos! How do you get track time there?

[Killer_bluebird]

http://www.nelsonledges.com/GOTfunDays.aspx

By the way Jeff is that your car? Is it a real Shelby Cobra or a kit? It looks nice.

[Lawnman]

It is a kit { Factory Five } . It is the third one that I built. They are extremely fast and fun { 2200 lbs and 365 rwhp }. I autox ed it , but never went to a high speed track.
I sold it, and now have a bmw z3 that I am trying to sell. If I can sell it I will buy a ws6 T/A . Then I will start going to places like Nelson Ledges and Putnim Park. That is the goal.
What mods have you done to your car?

[00 Trans Ram]

If you guys want to meet some more guys who know a lot about this stuff, check out FRRAX.com. Nothing but a whole buch of F-body Road Race and Auto-Xers (hence FRRAX). See you there!

[Lawnman]

Is anyone going to try to make the track session the last of September?

[Killer_bluebird]

I might go If I can get the new cam in by then. If not I'll shoot for Oct 6th. I need to get a replacement tire too :( I had a blown slick last time I was there.

[third_shift|studios]

holy cow! that Nelson place is really close to my mother-in-law's house! FFS, if i knew that, i woulda been up there sooo many more times. Welp, i know what i'm doing next spring.

So, killer blue bird, was that you who took the t/a into the trees or was that nelson? that would suck. I'd cry forever if that happened to me [again]

[Killer_bluebird]

So, killer blue bird, was that you who took the t/a into the trees or was that nelson? that would suck. I'd cry forever if that happened to me [again]

I'm not sure what you mean, but the video above was me. Luckily the car stopped about 2 feet short or having to make a trip to the body shop. As far as other people on the trees I don't know. I've seen a few wrecks there non of them real serious fortunately. I've heard of people loosing it in the carrousel and ending up at bottom of the hill in the trees there.

I'm hoping I can make it out 1-2 times out there yet before the car is put away. I'll keep you posted if may be you want to come down and get the lay of the land before running your car next year.

[Lawnman]

Keep me posted when you might go. I would like to go atleast 1 time this year.

[third_shift|studios]

I'm not sure what you mean, but the video above was me. Luckily the car stopped about 2 feet short or having to make a trip to the body shop. As far as other people on the trees I don't know. I've seen a few wrecks there non of them real serious fortunately. I've heard of people loosing it in the carrousel and ending up at bottom of the hill in the trees there.

you answered my question....god damn, that must have been scary as hell!!! what was it that made you loose control there?

[Lawnman]

Does an instructor set in the car with you on some of the laps? Do you follow a lead car on any laps ?

[Killer_bluebird]

you answered my question....god damn, that must have been scary as hell!!! what was it that made you loose control there?
It was... it seemed a little faster than I remmember when I watched the video :lol:. I was sorting out the suspenssion setup. I was using my corvette rims 17" front 18" back and after lowering the car a rubbing issue that I was having when the suspenssion is loaded became a bit worst, enough to unsettle the suspension during the transistion on the corner exit. In the video you can hear it just before the spin (actually you can hear it in the lap before too). This are my street tires so the rubbing didn't bother me since it never happened in the street. I need a thicker spacer if I want to track the street tires.

Does an instructor set in the car with you on some of the laps? Do you follow a lead car on any laps ?
Nope, but what I did was talk to the track's owner and he pointed out a guy that has a lot of experience on the track. He gave me a run through using a map then let me follow him for a few easy laps to get familiar with the track and the line. It takes a while to get confortable because you really don't know how hard to brake or how soon, when to brake also how much speed you should carry around the corner (or whether the car will stick), and it'll take a good 20min lap session to even get familiar with the place. But use the time during cooldowns to talk to guys in the paddock, most will give you pointers and even let you ride along with them so you can see how they manouver around the course. I was surprised of how little I knew about my car's limits (because on the street you'll never get near unless you are been stupid). I have soooo much still to learn but it is fun seeing that you are getting faster and smoother. It looks like it going to be wet this friday but I may try for next friday if the weather looks good and my car is running (I'm getting a package on monday :nana: )

[third_shift|studios]

so the car in your profile has the vette rims on it? and it's lowered?

nice mods, btw:
2002 NBM TA WS6, 6spd, MTI Lid + K&N, 160° Stat, BMR CM STB, BMR SFC, LG Adj. Poly/Rod LCA & LCA reloc., Spohl CM Sway Bars 32mm & 22mm, Adj. Poly/Rod PHB, Spohn Adj. TA, !CAGS, Bassani ORY, 3.73's, Koni DA's, DMS Springs and Borlamouth.

[Killer_bluebird]

yes.

Because of the c5 rear wheel offset I have to run a spacer, I just need one a bit thicker.

[Lawnman]

Just ttt for some great videos.