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myk02k
08-14-2006, 09:31 PM
I've heard some people complain abouit clearance issues...hence the poll.

Eugenio_SS
08-15-2006, 06:37 AM
yes and no

regret getting the SLP kit... car looks off with front higher than rear.
regret getting the sportlines... too low and soft, handles like sh!t
don't regret getting the prokits... more suspension travel than sportlines, and linear rates adequate for the given suspension travel.
don't regret getting the GC coil-overs with the wanted spring rates.

myk02k
08-16-2006, 06:53 PM
anyone try out Dynamics springs?

98LSGUN
08-16-2006, 06:56 PM
Love mine.

Killer_bluebird
08-17-2006, 09:33 AM
I got a lightly use set of DMS springs for a price I couldn't resist, so I got them. They are progresive springs with 325-630# in the front and 95-160# in the rear. I had 1le with the koni's before these.

Here are my impressions so far:
-The car looks awesome it has a nice rake, I was lowered by a tad over an inch. I would even consider the hose mod in the back if I wanted that nascar slammed look. but my Torque arm and exhaust wouldn't survive. The front is perfect and about as low as I would go.

-The car turns much flatter and hardly dives when breaking hard.

-Driving around town is still decent hardly noticeable from stock, it is a bit rougher on crappy roads. Large pot holes will send you to the Chiropractor! (valving on my shocks is set fairly stiff).

-rear spring is a bit softer than the 1Le so I experience a bit more rubbing with my 18" corvette rims (need a bigger spacer), however this happened on extreme race track cornering. Nothing on the street. I went to a track day with my street tires I got dedicated race rubber on my old WS6 rims now so it is a non-issue.

-I have to be really carefull over entrance ramps and such. I have a tranny mounted Torque arm and the cross brace hangs pretty low. So I've scraped it a few times, mostly just testing how high a ramp or or incline I could go over.

So the question is Would I do it again? and it is a resounding yes.

third_shift|studios
08-17-2006, 09:52 AM
wow...good review fore DMS!

so you did DMS with Konis?

Killer_bluebird
08-17-2006, 11:34 AM
so you did DMS with Konis?
yup.

I'm waiting for Sam's Springs materialize. But in the meanwhile I figured I try these. I'm now playing with the settings on the shocks to get the car to handle the way I want it at the track. Not to say it isn't good right now but just looking for the sweet spot.

My shock settings are as follows:
Front Bump: 4 turns from full stiff
Front Rebound: 5 clicks (from soft)
Rear Bump: 1/2 turn from full soft
Rear Rebound: 4 clicks from soft

I may step up to a 35mm front swaybar I still have a slight push on really tight corners that I want to dial out. If I can't do it with shocks.

third_shift|studios
08-17-2006, 11:54 AM
oh, you have the DA's ...i only have the SA's

440 rwhp trans am
08-17-2006, 02:35 PM
i bought my car lowered and raised it back up 2 inches and still want to go up to sock ride. i live in Texas and our roads suck. i spent $1300 on my new suspension and i hate it.

Laytonium
08-18-2006, 01:24 PM
Bought the Eibach Pro-Kit and love it. Some clearance issues sometimes, but not for the most part and I have LT headers with ORY. Def worth it once you see how it looks. Drops it ON THE GROUND.

Eugenio_SS
08-18-2006, 05:40 PM
i wouldn't go DMS... too progressive... hard to dialin shocks for proper damping.. and ride becomes quite harsh on not so nice roads.

illcul8troffcr
08-19-2006, 03:57 AM
I ordered my 2002 SS with the Bilstein suspension package from SLP.... It was raise in the front higher than in the back. Well I put a serious system in my car..2 12's ..box..2 amps..extra battery.. this really dropped the backend

People high beamed me all of the time thinking I had my highs on when it was because the back end squatted so much and the front was up so high that my lights shot straight into everybodys windows or rearviews..

I bought Eibachs Sportline .. only put them in the front and left the bilstein springs in the back.... it evened it out especially after the Eibachs settled.. but the ride sucks .. you hit a bump and you feel it go from your ass all the way up your spine into your teeth haha .. but it hangs a curve at 80-90 like you wouldnt believe

all in all .. handling I love it .. appearance wise .. looks perfect .. aggressive stance....ridewise.. sucks donkey cock

ErikElvis
08-19-2006, 10:59 AM
I think im going with the vogtland springs. 1.2" drop. Anyone with any experience with them?

Killer_bluebird
08-19-2006, 11:45 AM
I was considering those at one point but the rear springs are a little on the stiff side. Here are their rates:
Front rates are 440-542#
Rear rates are 183-228#

The front rates are less variable than my DMS but I'm really just waiting for Strano's springs to come out. They are linear springs in the front but won't drop the car as much as the G2. The rears are variable but very little. The specs are under wraps for the moment but will compare well to the G2, Lt1 Pro kits and Hotchkis springs. Unfortunately there has been no updates on this so they may not come until fall.

ErikElvis
08-19-2006, 12:06 PM
I was considering those at one point but the rear springs are a little on the stiff side. Here are their rates:
Front rates are 440-542#
Rear rates are 183-228#



Are they more of a road race spring? I just want a good spring with the occasional drag time. I know the pro-kits sag over time because I see it in my eclipse. Would a good set of rear shocks help with the spring rate?

Thanks

Killer_bluebird
08-19-2006, 01:16 PM
They will not work well if you are interested in Drag Racing as the stiffer springs in the rear will prevent the weight to be tranfered to the rear effectively. Hotchkis or DMS will work better if you want to stay clear of the eibachs and like to do some drag racing.

tonyjnjz
08-19-2006, 07:10 PM
anyone runnning bmr springs? there rates loook nice and stiff and an inch drop would be enough for me

Eugenio_SS
08-20-2006, 09:08 AM
Are they more of a road race spring? I just want a good spring with the occasional drag time. I know the pro-kits sag over time because I see it in my eclipse. Would a good set of rear shocks help with the spring rate?

Thanks

way more than what you'd want.
you should chose springs based on spring rates (ie behaviour) and not the drop.
the drop you get is a compromise for the spring rate you want... you can get lucky and have a good one... most springs lower around 1-1.5 anyways.
if you want to control both spring rate and drop, coil-overs is the way.
You'll regret chosing the springs based on the drop and not the rate.

fwiw, i use 500/150 spring rates and it's pretty limit for street purposes... and that's because they aren't progressive and damping is dialed in good.
add progressiveness or bad dial-in... you'll hate the springs.

Eugenio_SS
08-20-2006, 09:09 AM
They will not work well if you are interested in Drag Racing as the stiffer springs in the rear will prevent the weight to be tranfered to the rear effectively. Hotchkis or DMS will work better if you want to stay clear of the eibachs and like to do some drag racing.

Actually, weight transfer occurs the same, but in a different fashion... with way less movement... and more difficult to get it smoothly... but still is there.

lrader99
08-20-2006, 03:44 PM
Im runnin, Sportlines w/ Bilstein HD's, stb, sfc, lca's, and poly everything...handling ability, stance, holeshot...all amazing....ride quality...feels like you on a bike...its rough...but i wouldnt give it up for anything

ErikElvis
08-20-2006, 08:00 PM
Ok so Im not to concerned about ride quality but want a spring that lowers between 1"-1.25" and has good drag qualities. I have Koni SA's for the front and undecided on the rear. I just dont want a jaw jarring ride. Theres so many springs out there I dont know where to look. What are some reccomendations? Sorry to bust into this thread...

Thanks,
Erik

tonyjnjz
08-20-2006, 08:10 PM
bmr's lower an inch and have very high progressive spring rates.....anyone out there have comments on them?

Azrael
08-20-2006, 09:02 PM
Ok so Im not to concerned about ride quality but want a spring that lowers between 1"-1.25" and has good drag qualities. I have Koni SA's for the front and undecided on the rear. I just dont want a jaw jarring ride. Theres so many springs out there I dont know where to look. What are some reccomendations? Sorry to bust into this thread...

Thanks,
Erik

I would suggest BMR or Hotchkis springs for a kit, or get some Ground Control coilovers for adjustment (you can find them for about $100 more than a spring kit)...

tonyjnjz
08-20-2006, 09:17 PM
car handle like its on rails now azreal? just read your sig....nice mods...im dying to upgrade the suspension like yours

Azrael
08-20-2006, 09:25 PM
car handle like its on rails now azreal? just read your sig....nice mods...im dying to upgrade the suspension like yours

Yeah, the car is very nice now, and much more capable than I ever really push it on the street; although now it will be a blast to AutoX!

Killer_bluebird
08-20-2006, 10:57 PM
I would suggest BMR or Hotchkis springs for a kit, or get some Ground Control coilovers for adjustment (you can find them for about $100 more than a spring kit)... Just a note on the GC coil overs. If you are going to use them with koni DA you have to be real carefull to remove the spring collar it is a bit of a pain to do. You can damage your shock doing this and Koni will not warrantee it. With the SA it not a biggie you can remove the collar with no problems, but in orded to remove the Spring collar in the DA's you need to make a tool to remove the bump adjustment mechanism before you can slide the perch new perch on. Here are some threads that might help you.
http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=1484&hl=
http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=2761&hl=koni+tool

Eugenio_SS
08-21-2006, 09:55 PM
Just a note on the GC coil overs. If you are going to use them with koni DA you have to be real carefull to remove the spring collar it is a bit of a pain to do. You can damage your shock doing this and Koni will not warrantee it. With the SA it not a biggie you can remove the collar with no problems, but in orded to remove the Spring collar in the DA's you need to make a tool to remove the bump adjustment mechanism before you can slide the perch new perch on. Here are some threads that might help you.
http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=1484&hl=
http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=2761&hl=koni+tool

I made up a tool too... works great.

Killer_bluebird
08-24-2006, 08:27 AM
I guess I was too "Chicken" to tear down on my expensive shocks. ;)

Wikid NaSSty
08-27-2006, 07:53 PM
I have eibach springs with bilstein shocks, stb, sfc's, lca's, f+r swaybars. Car handles the balls, virtually no body roll, drifts evenly with perfect control. Ride is not harsh at all. Ground clearance can be a problem...especially with a modified exhaust and/or longtubes. It is even more of a problem especially with one or 2 passengers. If 3 passengers....forget about it.....rear suspension will bottom out over the smallest of bumps.

tonyjnjz
08-27-2006, 07:55 PM
which eibachs?

Wikid NaSSty
08-28-2006, 09:46 AM
which eibachs?

Sorry..........Pro Kit

myk02k
08-28-2006, 08:41 PM
i have a really bad habit of parking with the nose of my camaro over the curb. doesn't happen too often, but i guess i still mis-judge the length away i am from something. with the Y3F body kit, i always wind up like one centimeter away from scraping. am i the only camaro owner that has this tendency??? the nose is so damn long on these cars

ErikElvis
08-28-2006, 11:07 PM
i have a really bad habit of parking with the nose of my camaro over the curb. doesn't happen too often, but i guess i still mis-judge the length away i am from something. with the Y3F body kit, i always wind up like one centimeter away from scraping. am i the only camaro owner that has this tendency??? the nose is so damn long on these cars

No Ive come awfully close to scrapin the front end parkin at stock ride height. Thats what really bothers me about lowering.

myk02k
09-10-2006, 07:22 PM
can anyone tell me how close you come to scraping with the y3f body kit? i think that'll be a big issue w/ me cuz of the kit. I may just get bigger tires to close up the wheel-well.

cobrahunter
09-14-2006, 08:01 PM
Not in the least. My springs (Eibach) have worked out perfectly for me; 100%

Looks great!

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/392000-392999/392726_147_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/392000-392999/392726_154_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/392000-392999/392726_152_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/392000-392999/392726_35_full.jpg
Did have to have the rear fenders rolled in a bit to fit my
Z06 18x10.5 wheels with 285/35ZR18 Nittos

myk02k
09-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Wow. Nice car, but how the hell do you drive with speed bumps, potholes, and road imperfections?

myk02k
09-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Oh yea, does the bigger tires raise your height a bit?

cobrahunter
09-15-2006, 04:00 AM
Wow. Nice car, but how the hell do you drive with speed bumps, potholes, and road imperfections?

Speed bumps are usually not a problem. I could probably list the dozen or so REALLY bad speed bumps around town that would give me a little problem; I've learned how to avoid them. Otherwise, I just take the bumps at an angle. Potholes and road imperfections, trust me, I've learned to be quick at the wheel, especially when going faster than 40mph. It's really just a matter of adjusting a bit how I drive.

Oh yea, does the bigger tires raise your height a bit?

Not really. The tires are bigger, but their profile is lower. If anything, the rears are what gave me a problem at first, because they were too close to the fenders. But after folding the fender lips a bit, and putting in small spacers under the springs to lift the car up just a bit...problem solved. :)

BlackZ28629
09-17-2006, 11:36 AM
I just put on my sportlines w/ KYB AGX ADj., Hotchkis PHR, and LCA relo brackets w/ Lakewood non-adj. control arms. LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Ride height is menacing, cornering is awesome w/ virtually no body roll, no road noise, smooth ride, launch is considerably better, clearance only a lil' problem when going over absurdly tall speed bumps and/or potholes. Its a little stiffer than stock, but I cant complain. It still rides smooth and I think a lot of people must have shitty shocks and struts to be experiencing such poor ride qualities as Ive seen reported in the forums. Plus w/ the AGX's you can dial in an even stiffer setup or softer setup. Id say all in all, Its an essential mod to an F-Body for looks and handling.

BlackZ28629
09-17-2006, 09:44 PM
ok..ok...i just took her out for a good test drive, and I will say that the bumps and road imperfections are slightly annoying..huge bumps=must avoid them, but other than that, its nothing intolerable. I LOVE the handling! I had some fun tonight!!!!

vikingramair
09-18-2006, 12:01 AM
bmr's lower an inch and have very high progressive spring rates.....anyone out there have comments on them?


I have, running BMR+Koni SA.I love the handling of my car.These springs are a perfect combination with koni.

Other handling moda:
BMR spring/Koni Sa around
G2:adj phr,adj lca,adj up/low A-arms
Strano Bars/Poly bushings.
UMI SFC/Reloc batt

tonyjnjz
09-20-2006, 04:38 PM
nice sounds like that and/or header are my next upgrade in the spring :D thanks

badazta
09-20-2006, 04:46 PM
I have the eibach sport line, with qtp headers and y pipe. Can't get in my drive without rubbing can't go down side roads without rubbing, pretty much puts a damper on where I go. My y pipe is about 1" off the ground. I installed air shocks with about 70psi to lift the rearend up a touch it helped alittle. Handles great and looks good tho!

tonyjnjz
09-20-2006, 04:50 PM
sportlines are also a 2 inch drop arnt they??? ..maybe ill do the springs/koni's first then have the headers installed after...make the shop adjust them til there perfect..LOL :D

BlackZ28629
09-22-2006, 05:23 PM
just get them to custom make you a 4" Y-pipe and crush it like factory to help clearance! Thats what Im gonna do.

Carlos01SS
09-23-2006, 11:37 AM
oh, you have the DA's ...i only have the SA's


Don't feel bad, those Koni SA's are still outstanding, better than everything else out there, and just fine for VERY spirited VERY aggressive street driving.

Azrael
09-24-2006, 04:36 AM
Don't feel bad, those Koni SA's are still outstanding, better than everything else out there, and just fine for VERY spirited VERY aggressive street driving.

Matter of fact, Sam Strano has both setups and prefers the SA's over the DA's...

Can't go wrong with either IMHO.

Carlos01SS
09-24-2006, 04:16 PM
Matter of fact, Sam Strano has both setups and prefers the SA's over the DA's...

Can't go wrong with either IMHO.

I agree...

I have talked to Sam quite a few times, he told me the same thing. The only reason I got the DA's over the SA's was at the time I was aboe to purchase the DA's, all four for $603.00 shipped, I couldn't pass up that deal. The DA's are overkill, SA's are more beefy, better for street application.

I've owned the Bilstein HD's, Monroes, KYB's, factory deCarbons, the Koni's are by far the best shocks out of all of them, I am sooo glad I spent the money for them.

Azrael
09-24-2006, 05:10 PM
I agree...

I have talked to Sam quite a few times, he told me the same thing. The only reason I got the DA's over the SA's was at the time I was aboe to purchase the DA's, all four for $603.00 shipped, I couldn't pass up that deal. The DA's are overkill, SA's are more beefy, better for street application.

I've owned the Bilstein HD's, Monroes, KYB's, factory deCarbons, the Koni's are by far the best shocks out of all of them, I am sooo glad I spent the money for them.

Dude you got a smoken' deal! I definately do not blame you for going the way you did; shoot I would have done the same and never looked back! I agree with you 1000%!

myk02k
09-24-2006, 07:57 PM
just get them to custom make you a 4" Y-pipe and crush it like factory to help clearance! Thats what Im gonna do.

That reminds me of a story...

I went to Pep Boys for a quick fix, and the mechanic told me I must've bottomed out hard cuz my y-pipe is flat, but that's a very common thing to happen to the f-bodies. Gotta love the Pep Boys "mechanics" who can't realize if it's not scratched, then I obviously didn't pancake it through bottoming out.

jason_a_marzewski
10-14-2006, 07:36 PM
MYK02K:

After reading all of the tantalizing advertisments for Eibach's Pro-Kit lowering/performance springs, invested in a set of four and added them--along with a set of Bilstein shocks--to the corners of my 2002 Z28RS. I have an SLP Loudmouth exhaust and a drive-shaft safety loop onboard, and the springs lowered the car so much, that both pieces drug on my driveway and scraped over bumps in the highway when encountering them at speeds over 50 mph.

Three days and 80 miles later, I had my factory springs reinstalled and have been enjoying the sublime qualities of adequate ground clearance ever since. There's something to be said for function over form, especially in a town with steep driveways and marginal roads like Batesville, Arkansas, where I live.

Another reason I was disenchanted with the Eibach Pro-Kit is that the rear springs were too soft; the rear of the car sat down approximately 1.5" lower than the front, ruining the proportions of the car and making my rear wheels appear smaller than they are.

If you want better handling and you're currently experiencing the disadvantages of the your factory suspension, I recommend adding Bilstein Heavy-Duty shocks and keeping your factory springs: This set-up is an excellent compromise between better handling and a safe ride-height.

Sincerely,

J@M

myk02k
10-14-2006, 11:49 PM
This whole thread is like my mind saying "Do IT!" and the other half going "You'll lose your whole body kit with one pothole!". Gotta love this look though...
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/392000-392999/392726_154_full.jpg, but after all, my body kit already has scrapes and a tiny chunk missing on the rear side peice from the previous owner. I think what I'm going to do is check out adjustable shocks to lower the front end slightly and possibly the rear, just enough to make the wheel-wells look symmetrical with the gap all around. Hell if I can find a kit for $400 I'd be willing to buy air shocks!

myk02k
10-15-2006, 01:42 AM
Air Ride kit is $1850 directly from them. They can keep their damn kit and I'll just get adj. front shocks

RickyWS6
10-22-2006, 07:29 AM
Yes, when I bought the Eibach pro kit the rear sagged, bottomed out, but handled great in the turns. No, when I bought the SLP level one kit, it's low enough for people to notice but it doesn't bottom out or drag my SLP long tubes.

mrbob2
10-31-2006, 10:11 PM
I bought the car lowered with Eibachs. I kind of hate the ride. It corners like it is rails which is cool but it rides rough. It still has stock shocks on it. I have ordered a set Single adjustable Konis. I am hoping this helps the ride. I know the wide tires don't help either. Do you get a better ride with lowered spindals then you do with the springs?
Thanks, Bob

BlackZ28629
11-06-2006, 08:50 AM
Do not ever buy KYB!!!!!! I learned the hard way..:brick:
I will be investing in some Koni SA's ASAP... KYB= Keeps You Bouncing for sure
The struts suck anyway..the rear is ok.. + from day one my driver's side has been creaky and it creaks when it compresses. :ar: KYB

ErikElvis
11-06-2006, 11:56 AM
I wouldnt touch KYB after having them in my eclipse. The adjustment felt cheap and it bounced. Not only that the car sat uneven with them. :ughlaugh: I swapped to tokicos and it leveled out. A coincidence, i dunno. Im happy with the konis and hotchkis in the SS.

hamburger68
01-25-2007, 10:55 AM
MYK02K:

If you want better handling and you're currently experiencing the disadvantages of the your factory suspension, I recommend adding Bilstein Heavy-Duty shocks and keeping your factory springs: This set-up is an excellent compromise between better handling and a safe ride-height.

Sincerely,

J@M

See, something written is never lost:

Your post three months ago just finalised my decision to go exactely with that setup. I've been thinking back and forth about getting lowering springs (Vogtland) or not, being worried about clearence, ride comfort, my 3" dual exhaust and never being able to get out of my underground garage again.

Thanks for the help!

SexOnWheels
01-25-2007, 11:05 AM
See, something written is never lost:

Your post three months ago just finalised my decision to go exactely with that setup. I've been thinking back and forth about getting lowering springs (Vogtland) or not, being worried about clearence, ride comfort, my 3" dual exhaust and never being able to get out of my underground garage again.

Thanks for the help!

If you are worried about lowering you can check online in the parts/for sale section and upgrade your springs for stock 1LE springs. Better rates and will still work with the HD's.

I found (and purchased) some for $75 off of an f-body board.

hamburger68
01-25-2007, 11:33 AM
Thanks, I'll check that out!

Monster-Inside
02-15-2007, 11:00 PM
I also have the Pro Kit on my ws6 and I love it. looks delish. handles great. never really had a problem Yet with clearance issues. have pacesetter LTs and ory and also wings west firebird front ground effect and still no problems.

zero_proto
02-19-2007, 05:35 PM
well i am looking at changing my setup out. I have bilstein hd's with h&r springs. Something is wrong though, i think the springs were heated so the car sits lower by far than my buddy who has HD's and G2's 1.75 drop springs.
I have basani mids with a 3 inch catted y and i hit everything on the face of this earth and the ride is rough as hell.
I am looking at getting the koni SA's with the hotchkis 1" drop on all corners. Does this sound like a good setup??????? I am looking for a little bit more of a civil ride and that every bump doesn't jar the shit outta my brain.

Killer_bluebird
02-19-2007, 06:14 PM
That's a pretty good set up you will be very happy with it.

jmhvenom
03-08-2007, 08:54 AM
Regret the prokit because my custom exhaust is getting tore up. Probably need to see how new shocks help it out, but i think I am in the market for some more springs.

hamburger68
03-08-2007, 12:01 PM
Just got my bilstein hds in, kept my stock springs.
L o v e i t !!!!!!!!!!!!!:love:

LS1Formula01
04-09-2007, 04:59 PM
My new suspension setup that i put on in the past month, consists of B+G Suspension's 1.4in lowering springs that only add 100lbs/in to all 4 corners spring rate, retained my stock shocks and struts, and put on lakewood Rear LCAs with a Lakewood adj PHR, and then before this weekend i will have my LCA relocation brackets from UMI put in.

ILLTMPRD-WS6
04-10-2007, 07:31 PM
Anyone have any pictures of their car with Hotchkis or DMS lowering springs that they could post?

Pewter_LS1
04-17-2007, 01:14 AM
Nope not a regret at all..rides great handles nicely..few issues from time to time with huge speed bumps and such but over all wouldnt undo it..few pics..
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/pewter_ls1/mine.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/pewter_ls1/group.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/pewter_ls1/TA.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/pewter_ls1/Shawn-May2005058.jpg

ILLTMPRD-WS6
04-17-2007, 06:16 PM
I have been trying to order springs through DMS for over a week now. Phone calls and emails do not seem to work. Does anyone know whats up w/ them? Does anyone have another phone number available other than the one on there site?
Thanx

Granatelli
04-19-2007, 10:30 PM
We have had tons of cars come through here with DMS - Dynamic Motor Sports Springs. Everyone is happy aw can be

ILLTMPRD-WS6
04-21-2007, 11:49 AM
I know, thats why I'm trying to get a set

rdx4me
04-23-2007, 08:10 AM
I have a 98 Camaro and the right side of the car (measured from the ground to the enter of each wheel-well) is about 1/4" Front & 1/2" Rear lower than the right side. Suspension is stock as I just bought it.

The car has 121K miles on it and I assume the difference is ride height is due to spring sagging?

I plan on buying some new springs but being new to the 4th Gen world I'd like some advice on which springs to get.

After reading all the above post, obviously there's allot to consider...

Azrael
04-23-2007, 09:59 AM
I have a 98 Camaro and the right side of the car (measured from the ground to the enter of each wheel-well) is about 1/4" Front & 1/2" Rear lower than the right side. Suspension is stock as I just bought it.

The car has 121K miles on it and I assume the difference is ride height is due to spring sagging?

I plan on buying some new springs but being new to the 4th Gen world I'd like some advice on which springs to get.

After reading all the above post, obviously there's allot to consider...

Springs will depend on what you want out of your car. I personally would get the Sam Strano spec'd Vogtland springs if I had to do it again.

Make sure you are ready to upgrade your shocks/struts as well since the deCarbons will not damp the lowering springs at all; especially with 121k on them already.

Granatelli
04-23-2007, 04:41 PM
I have a 98 Camaro and the right side of the car (measured from the ground to the enter of each wheel-well) is about 1/4" Front & 1/2" Rear lower than the right side. Suspension is stock as I just bought it.

The car has 121K miles on it and I assume the difference is ride height is due to spring sagging?

I plan on buying some new springs but being new to the 4th Gen world I'd like some advice on which springs to get.

After reading all the above post, obviously there's allot to consider...

We can get you the DMS springs - just call us 805-486-6644 ext 11

Also I called DMS today for you and they appear to be back on track 805-240-3022

nastyz1
05-17-2007, 11:49 AM
DMS springs here car looks great, would do it again... IMO

LETHALxLS1
05-29-2007, 12:05 AM
I was considering lowering my car as well untill I overheard a guy that works
at the shop I go to telling another mechanic how his car bottoms out with 2 12 packs of soda in hid trunk. He has the Pro-kit as well. That changed my mind. What would a good shock/strut be for stock springs? would Koni s/a's work well? Thanks

hamburger68
05-29-2007, 03:44 AM
i got bilstein hd with the stock springs. just went 145 mph on saturday, handling is awesome. also very precise cornering at medium speeds. still good ride comfort.
wouldn't wanna give up the little clearance the car has stock...

jmhvenom
05-29-2007, 09:47 AM
i retract my previous statement, found out that my entire exhaust had been pulled down when i caught my cutout on one of those metal plates they use for road work. Went from 0.5 inch ground clearence to about 5inches now with low profile DMH cutouts and reworked exhaust. Will be putting either QA1s or KONIs on in the next day or so, will post up some pics (have a prokit also)

firesilver
05-30-2007, 08:05 PM
yeah my cutout hangs down 2 inches lower than the rest of my exhuast cause it was welded on pointed down to much. I scrape it over alot of speed bumps. Im gonna get it rewelded, replace my jet hot ory, then im getting shocks and springs

jmhvenom
05-31-2007, 03:20 PM
DMH cutouts now sells a low profile cutout, mine sits no lower than my ypipe... went from .5in to 5 inch clearence...

99Ls1fever
02-01-2008, 07:20 AM
I've heard some people complain abouit clearance issues...hence the poll.

And those are the people who lower their car to much... And dont have impulse control, think before you lower...

99Ls1fever
02-01-2008, 07:22 AM
Mine is dropped an 1.25 and I have never had any clearance problems since I put them on a year ago... Handles a lot smoother and doesn't rise in the corners...

02blkws6
02-01-2008, 09:30 PM
I just put a Pro Kit on my car and set pinion angle to -2* and it feels like it hooks better on the street. I'll have to wait until March 15th to see how it does at the track. If you want to lower your car and drag race it, you need adjustability of the rear supension to dial in traction.

99Ls1fever
02-03-2008, 06:49 PM
I just put a Pro Kit on my car and set pinion angle to -2* and it feels like it hooks better on the street. I'll have to wait until March 15th to see how it does at the track. If you want to lower your car and drag race it, you need adjustability of the rear supension to dial in traction.

dial in in terms of? good kit though, same one i have.

GNICTRY
02-04-2008, 11:03 AM
what is the clearance of ws6 with lt headers??:Pics: how much could i lower...daily driver???

99Ls1fever
02-04-2008, 11:52 AM
how much of a drop and what y pipe?

GNICTRY
02-04-2008, 12:57 PM
how much of a drop and what y pipe?

It has obx lt with resonators for cats to obx y pipe to lm1. Not sure how much to lower…I want to stay with 17 by 9.5 rims.

LETHALxLS1
02-04-2008, 01:33 PM
dial in in terms of? good kit though, same one i have.

An adjustable torque arm and rear LCA relocation brackets help.

Carlos01SS
02-05-2008, 12:03 PM
Yes and no.

My first F-body was a 93 LT1 Z28, changed the factory springs and shocks to the Prokit and factory shocks(deCarFAWKS), at first they were great but I realized that my driving skills were more than the shocks could handle, I learned that my car had a LOT of understeer, it pushed in the turns, kept bottoming out, and after about 20K-30K miles my shocks blew. :mad:

THEN I replaced the factory POS shocks for Bilstein HD's cuz everyone here and on other sites said they were great, and for a while they were MUCH better than the deCarbons...But after 20K-30K miles the Bilstein's blew out too, now I was REALLY pissed...

By then I had the RKSports 35mm front/25mm rear swaybars and LGM SFC's, even made the understeer worse and when I exited the corners my rear end kept fishtailing, more scary and irritating.

Now with my 01 SS 6-speed I think I got it nailed. :)

Still want stiffer spring settings, but after that and replacing my rear DA's with fresh/new SA's my car will be handling like an SCCA racer. :D

Rikki_SeVeN
02-17-2008, 05:58 PM
I don't regret getting the Pro-Kit, UMI Adj. Panhard, and UMI LCA Brakets... I just regret not getting some good shocks to go with it!... gonna fix that problem soon enough...

as for bottoming out and such... yeah it happens...and having my car scrape in some places...is almost imposible to avoid...since it used to do it even before I lowerd it... :D ... roads here suck anyways, so as long as it doesn't get too scratched up... or unless my exhaust falls off :squint:... I wont have any regrets...

architect7
05-09-2008, 10:55 PM
i know this is a late reply and you probably already have your springs... but if not, I have the Hotchkis kit and it rides amazing! great looking drop and it will not jar you at all. about a 1 - 1.25 inch drop on all four.

99Ls1fever
07-04-2008, 11:43 AM
An adjustable torque arm and rear LCA relocation brackets help.

agreed I need to do that still, my baby was sick and in the shop for two months :(

99Ls1fever
07-04-2008, 11:45 AM
Yes and no.

My first F-body was a 93 LT1 Z28, changed the factory springs and shocks to the Prokit and factory shocks(deCarFAWKS), at first they were great but I realized that my driving skills were more than the shocks could handle, I learned that my car had a LOT of understeer, it pushed in the turns, kept bottoming out, and after about 20K-30K miles my shocks blew. :mad:

THEN I replaced the factory POS shocks for Bilstein HD's cuz everyone here and on other sites said they were great, and for a while they were MUCH better than the deCarbons...But after 20K-30K miles the Bilstein's blew out too, now I was REALLY pissed...

By then I had the RKSports 35mm front/25mm rear swaybars and LGM SFC's, even made the understeer worse and when I exited the corners my rear end kept fishtailing, more scary and irritating.

Now with my 01 SS 6-speed I think I got it nailed. :)

Still want stiffer spring settings, but after that and replacing my rear DA's with fresh/new SA's my car will be handling like an SCCA racer. :D

Add drag bags to the rear....

99Ls1fever
07-08-2008, 08:33 AM
An adjustable torque arm and rear LCA relocation brackets help.

What LCA Relocation Brackets are you running????

QtrWhore
07-14-2008, 07:44 AM
have the eibach pro kit and love them..perfect stance no rubbing.. but my slp lts sit way too damn low..thats my only bitch...

Granatelli
07-14-2008, 10:50 AM
Is anyone still looking for great lower springs? We have relocation brackets as well

http://67.199.19.45/images/product/500009_lg.jpg

Mr. Luos
07-14-2008, 12:04 PM
No regrets.

Played around with different springs a little.
Started with the ProKit with stock shocks. Wasn't too bad at first. That quickly changed to bad. Stock shocks couldn't take it. Originally bought some KYB's. Never installed those after researching it a bit.
Put Koni 4/3 SA's on it with the ProKit at the beginning of this season. Much improved, and the shocks actually put .15-.20" back in the height, which was nice.
Raced on the ProKit several times, and realized it was more of an appearance spring than performance spring.

Currently riding on Strano springs and the Koni's. And I LOVE it.

99Ls1fever
07-16-2008, 08:30 AM
Is anyone still looking for great lower springs? We have relocation brackets as well

http://67.199.19.45/images/product/500009_lg.jpg

How much???

99Ls1fever
07-16-2008, 08:31 AM
No regrets.

Played around with different springs a little.
Started with the ProKit with stock shocks. Wasn't too bad at first. That quickly changed to bad. Stock shocks couldn't take it. Originally bought some KYB's. Never installed those after researching it a bit.
Put Koni 4/3 SA's on it with the ProKit at the beginning of this season. Much improved, and the shocks actually put .15-.20" back in the height, which was nice.
Raced on the ProKit several times, and realized it was more of an appearance spring than performance spring.

Currently riding on Strano springs and the Koni's. And I LOVE it.

Your car looks like it rides amazing anyway Curtis :):devil:

Granatelli
07-16-2008, 08:56 AM
How much???

Just $75.00 - they are easy to install. you can bolt them on or weld

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/product_display.php?gid=161 The link says welding is required but it is not - We highly recommend you tack them in to prevent any movement