What stall speed are you running?

[Ed Blown Vert]

:flex:

[Zboner]

:bino: no 3,000?

[Ed Blown Vert]

:bino: no 3,000?
Picky aren't we

[Zboner]

i voted for the 3,200 lol

[0rion]

No love for the 3500's either huh?? What str are you guys running? I have a fuddle 3500 with 2.0 str

[koolaid_kid]

I have a Fuddle 3400 with 2.1 STR.

[juiced99ws6]

fuddle 3280 and 2.2 STR here

[BerryWS6]

The converter I am putting in the new trans is a Vigilante 3800 with a 2.53str
I voted 4000 because it flash stalls to 4000

[mysticZ]

Got a 2300 (from what I'm told) Like to go to a 3000.

[The Scientist]

I'll trade you my vigilate 3000, mysticZ. 3000 my arse!!!!!! I voted 3500 cause thats what it feels like.

[mysticZ]

I'll trade you my vigilate 3000, mysticZ. 3000 my arse!!!!!! I voted 3500 cause thats what it feels like.

Wouldn't mind it for the FUN part but, its a DD. And I think mine is in no way equal to a vigalate. I think its a GM Perf part.

[The Scientist]

That's cool, it was more of a retorical question anyway. Just so you know it is still my DD (when I don't take the R1). I still have the free restall and will be doing that soon. Maybe I will ask for 2000 this time and see how high it loosens up to.

[12secSS]

I have a B&M Holeshot 3000. So I will be adding a B&M Holeshot 4000. :)

[Jason Dammen]

Stall against the tranbrake... 6100 :)
8" Dynamic (Frank Lupo's)
Mechanical diode instead of sprag

[F-Bomb]

The converter I am putting in the new trans is a Vigilante 3800 with a 2.53str
I voted 4000 because it flash stalls to 4000

yea ditto on that for me too!

[Dano 00TA]

3200 Midwest here

[oneBADDz]

I'll help dig this back out. Vig 3600 2.58 str

[Gregg1LE]

3500 Yank.

[mrr23]

Yank PY3400E

[import slayer]

Yank PT 4400

[Sarge]

Yank 3400

[Y2KPewterSS]

Where is the option for 3800? :nana:

[Silver Streak]

I have a Vigilante 3600 ready to be installed.. but I am having second thoughts now... as it is my DD.. I dunno...

[BerryWS6]

I have a Vigalnate 3800 in my car and I would DD it any time
but I have a truck for that

[Silver Streak]

Well.. the car is going in for the shiftkit, tranny cooler, and stall tomorrrow... so we'll see.... hopefully it doesn't run TOOO bad without the tune.. which I am hoping I can get soon....

[LS1 Trans am]

I have this same one right here.. Just got in installed January.

I have a Fuddle 3400 with 2.1 STR.

[Silver Streak]

Got the go fast parts installed... as well as the tune.. and love 'em! Brought it down to 12.2 with a 20 MPH head wind... we'll see what its like on a calm day! :D

[djvaly]

getting the 3000 stall installed with G5X3 cam on ls2 402 block and AFR225 heads.

[djvaly]

getting the 3000 stall installed with G5X3 cam on ls2 402 block and AFR225 heads.

correction... ended up getting Vigilante 3000 stall, and G5X4 cam on the 402 ls2

[theslow00]

edge 3400 2.4 str here

[Stretchs T/A]

Yank SS3600, 2.5 STR

[nitroushane]

4000 here

[slims00ls1z28]

PI Vigilante 3600, 2.2.

[blackTA6585]

Vig 3600.. cant wait to take it to the track and test it out.

[djvaly]

Vig 3600.. cant wait to take it to the track and test it out.

how do you test out a stall? you rev to 1700 or so foot pedal breaking then launch on 3rd yellow. so what is the diff from a drivers perspective between a 3200 vs 3600 stall? the RPM number at which you rev before you start? if yes, by how much more RPM? :dunno:

[Silver Streak]

Yeah.. to see how much more you can "stall" it up before it breaks loose....:D

[blackTA6585]

how do you test out a stall? you rev to 1700 or so foot pedal breaking then launch on 3rd yellow. so what is the diff from a drivers perspective between a 3200 vs 3600 stall? the RPM number at which you rev before you start? if yes, by how much more RPM? :dunno:

ummmm.. to test it I plan to see how much faster or slower I can run the 1/4 mile.. slower as in I spin like crazy and get a bad time because I'm not used the the new stall and need to practice launching again. Dont know the difference from a 3200 vs a 3600 stall because I've never had a 3200. just got my 3600 about a week ago. havent had a chance to get used to it either cuz it wont stop raining here :squint:

[Hawk241]

Did you do anything other than install, like a tune or anything, my 3,600 just came in fed ex and i have a shift kit and super cooler all to install. But i am concerned about a tune. I have been reading lots of posts here and other sites, guys putting in converters in and running into the trans issues like it trans. getting lazy, power loss, hiting rev limiter at WOT etc...

[blackTA6585]

no havent done a tune, and its been raining a lot so I havent really been able to get on it much but I have one good time and it ran through the gears perfectly and definitely no power loss. But so far no problems

[LS2Tuner]

Where is the OTHER choice ED....?:dunno:

I'm running STOCK baby!!!

11.20's right now pedaling the bottle on 17's.
Won't be swapping converter until I run 10's with the stock one. Let me shake this wheel hop and it will be in the 10's.......:D

[djvaly]

I swaped with a yank 3400 from vig 3000. a bit better.

[LS2Tuner]

When you say a bit better do you have a et gain for us...?

[djvaly]

no, but it feels a bit more aggressive when I take off from lights just reving up that way. I'll get more concrete evidence in a few weeks when I'll hit the track again.

[LS2Tuner]

Cool do you know by chance what stator either had in them
Just to give us more info to base choices after.

[djvaly]

not sure man...

[sjones69]

1800, didn't want anything to hard for when my wife drives it :ahh:

[djvaly]

1800, didn't want anything to hard for when my wife drives it :ahh:

1800? or 2800? I think 1800 is softer than stock... :shrug:

[sjones69]

1800? or 2800? I think 1800 is softer than stock... :shrug:


I believe the shop told me stock was 1100, we talked about a 2400, but he went with a 1800? The wife drives it, so I was nervous to do anything fun :titslap:

[djvaly]

yeah. you need your own car :wall:

[sjones69]

yeah. you need your own car :wall:


Hopefully I will get her interested in the track and then a different stall.......or a different vert for her:boxing:

[djvaly]

:woo: I run 3400 vigilante. iz good!

[SStriker]

I'm installing a TCI 3500 With the next week or two :D

[big e]

2800 Vig. Love it.

[trprcar]

Yank St3600

[djvaly]

I put in 3200 vig. when transmission was built up again a few months ago. now it shifts pretty well. A4 stg5.

[bigboykilroy]

Im going back and forth between a Yank ss3600 or a ss4000 Stall but I cant decide...

[LS2Tuner]

Im going back and forth between a Yank ss3600 or a ss4000 Stall but I cant decide...

Well I can tell you first hand to make the right decision call each manufacture and tell them EVERYTHING you have. That is the ONLY way you get the right conv. you can't go off of others unless they have the EXACT combo.
Yeah it is going to be faster than stock but that doesn't mean shit!!
You have to give them all specs of your car to get the proper conv.
Take it or leave it all i can say is I learned the hard way about this 12 years ago.
Others interpretations are different on the same thing remember that.

[sbpower72]

vig 3600 sixty foot is 1.49 and drives fine but has a tune.

[juiced99ws6]

I had a 3200 and that is what I voted but now I just ordered a 4200 1.69 STR stall from performabuilt.. I have a 230-236 cam and the power doesnt come on real strong until 4k

[bigboykilroy]

Got my SS4000 in the other day. That is what yank recomended for what I currently have and also what i plan on doing.

[Zedicous]

WHat do these stall numbers mean, 2600, 2800, etc? I heard 2600 is best for DD'ing.

[bigboykilroy]

1800 is about stock, going 2600 is just about same as stock.

[Zedicous]

1800 is about stock, going 2600 is just about same as stock.

When you upgrade the stall thats upgrading the torque converter, right?
I'm use to manuals, so all this A4 talk has me confussed. I heard the best thing you can do to the A4 is upgrade the TC. So i thought i'd do that and put in a 3.42 also. But i also need something thats streetable, i'm not trying to build a track only car..
:happy:

[Y2KPewterSS]

Putting a stall in less than 3500 is almost pointless in an LS1.

[Zedicous]

Putting a stall in less than 3500 is almost pointless in an LS1.

WHat do the numbers represent? It looks like rpm's

[LS2Tuner]

WHat do the numbers represent? It looks like rpm's

Yes that is correct. You need to actually call the manufacture that you are looking @ and tell them exactly what you have and what your intentions are so you get the correct conv. Most people conceptions are different on the same thing that why you need to talk to the manufacture. It's like buying a cam off someone's recommendation on this site and not the manufacture.......
A BIG NO-NO!!:nono:

[Zedicous]

I did plan on talking to my mechanic at Thunder Racing, i was just trying to get a better understanding of it which i still havn't gotten..

[bigboykilroy]

Yes....100% by far for a A4 car you can do is upgrade the converter. But just like LS2 said talk to each converter manufacture and ask them what they recommend with your setup and mods. It can be just like a clutch even though they are the same "part" each manufactures are a little different and will do different things.

[Zedicous]

Yes....100% by far for a A4 car you can do is upgrade the converter. But just like LS2 said talk to each converter manufacture and ask them what they recommend with your setup and mods. It can be just like a clutch even though they are the same "part" each manufactures are a little different and will do different things.

Ok cool, but where i'm at and where i will end up are two completely different areas.. I just don't know much about automatics, all my cars have been manual and my other two cars i have now are manuals.

[LS2Tuner]

Every manufacture has there own idea's on stators so it is a huge difference from brand to brand. All I can say is don't bullshit them on the ? they ask. Most people do and they don't get the best choice for there application. Yeah it's faster than stock so they think they did good but that doesn't mean shit!
As I have stated many times you can have A4 cars fast with stock conv. my car went low 11's on 17"s with stock conv and 1.6 60's ALL day.

[bigboykilroy]

now did your car do 11's with just pump gas or with the help of nos?

[LS2Tuner]

now did your car do 11's with just pump gas or with the help of nos?

Sorry but NO 05/06 GTO is going 11.20's on "pump gas" as you word it. Yes it was on ONE stage of two pedalling it due to wheel hop.

[bigboykilroy]

Nice !!

But back to subject...Tell call yank and talk to dave m, tell him what you currently have and what you plan on doing with the car, they can recomend a converter for you, some even will put in a "free" adjustment. say you get a Yank SS3200 now, after your heads, cam and other fun stuff, a SS4000 would be better, they can "adjust" it for you for no charge, if you work that into the deal.

But just like LS2 said dont bull shit them to feel good or you will regret it.

Let us know how it works out.

[Zedicous]

Every manufacture has there own idea's on stators so it is a huge difference from brand to brand. All I can say is don't bullshit them on the ? they ask. Most people do and they don't get the best choice for there application. Yeah it's faster than stock so they think they did good but that doesn't mean shit!
As I have stated many times you can have A4 cars fast with stock conv. my car went low 11's on 17"s with stock conv and 1.6 60's ALL day.

Maybe i'll do the longtube headers next instead.. What does the 2800, 3200 3600 mean?

[Zedicous]

Nice !!

But back to subject...Tell call yank and talk to dave m, tell him what you currently have and what you plan on doing with the car, they can recomend a converter for you, some even will put in a "free" adjustment. say you get a Yank SS3200 now, after your heads, cam and other fun stuff, a SS4000 would be better, they can "adjust" it for you for no charge, if you work that into the deal.

But just like LS2 said dont bull shit them to feel good or you will regret it.

Let us know how it works out.


"Tell call yank" huh

[mghawk57]

3200 stall with 1.9 str - this is with a Dsc1 Procharger - 99% street driven

[Zedicous]

3200 stall with 1.9 str - this is with a Dsc1 Procharger - 99% street driven

What's a 1.9 str?

[mghawk57]

http://www.fuddleracing.com/WhatConvertersDo.html - better than I can explain.

[Zedicous]

http://www.fuddleracing.com/WhatConvertersDo.html - better than I can explain.

Thanks for the info, that was very helpful, after reading that my next upgrade will be the TC and a 3.42 to replace my 3.15..
:rockon:

[bigboykilroy]

I have my stock 3:42 gears for sale if you are interested PM me.

[Zedicous]

I have my stock 3:42 gears for sale if you are interested PM me.

Well its for a C5 AT, i see you have a TA. Plus i can't decide if want to go 3.42 or 3.73.. If i could figure out how much higher the rpm's would ride compared to where it does now, it would be easier to figure out.
:)

[LS2Tuner]

I have my stock 3:42 gears for sale if you are interested PM me.

It's different he has a Vette that has IRS rearend not a live rigid 10 bolt like your F body.

[TransAmy]

3200 with a 2.1 str

[jinouk67]

midwest 2800 stall

[knappbunch]

tci 2500 daily driver:nana:

[Zedicous]

It's different he has a Vette that has IRS rearend not a live rigid 10 bolt like your F body.

You mean frigid 10 bolt..

[Johns00Z28]

Can anyone w/ a stall higher than 3000 that's their daily driver tell me how it handles ovreall? My biggest concern is how it'll handle in inclement weather since it is my only means of transportation.

[GNICTRY]

Can anyone w/ a stall higher than 3000 that's their daily driver tell me how it handles ovreall? My biggest concern is how it'll handle in inclement weather since it is my only means of transportation.

mines 3200 and its great...inclement weather will be fine just drive without your foot in it...but it will feel sluggish when you drive it like that

[Johns00Z28]

I can deal w/ sluggish I just want to make sure it's gonna be controllable!!

[GNICTRY]

as long as you have self control the car will be controllable

[mghawk57]

My 3200 with a Procharger drives like stock as far as shifting and power.It just feels like it takes more accelerator pressure to get going,but not more power to the wheels.Does that make sense? or help?

[N20LT4]

Pro Yank 3400 here w/ Moser 3.70's (9") :yup:

[Johns00Z28]

Yeah I have no problems being sensible when driving, esp in inclement weather. I'm just wondering cause I've never owned a stalled car nor been in one to see how it felt.

[bigboykilroy]

Yank SS4000 with 3:90 LOVE IT !!!

[N20LT4]

Yank SS4000 with 3:90 LOVE IT !!!

How would you rate your streetability with those 3.90's?

[Johns00Z28]

Sounds like a weekend warrior/strip car.

[kegsfirehawk]

Any suggestions for yank size for me. Right now running TCI3000 and pulling a 1.82 60'. and not very happy with that, i was thinking SS3600?

Stock short block
Stock 853 heads ported with valve job
comp 228/230 .571/.573 lift
ls2 intake with 34lbs inj
90mm TB
1 3/4 long tubes with off road Y
mac exhaust
3000 TCI Stall
4l65e stage 3 tranny
3.73 gears
Lid and k+n
Mickey et street radials

and i think thats about it 386rwhp/351rwtq

12.3 @ 111

[LS2Tuner]

Any suggestions for yank size for me. Right now running TCI3000 and pulling a 1.82 60'. and not very happy with that, i was thinking SS3600?

Stock short block
Stock 853 heads ported with valve job
comp 228/230 .571/.573 lift
ls2 intake with 34lbs inj
90mm TB
1 3/4 long tubes with off road Y
mac exhaust
3000 TCI Stall
4l65e stage 3 tranny
3.73 gears
Lid and k+n
Mickey et street radials

and i think thats about it 386rwhp/351rwtq

12.3 @ 111


Yeah call them for Their suggestions NOT others. I have found that everybody has there own ideas of how their own car works and many times it's clouded. So do yourself a favor and ALWAYS talk in great detail to the manufacturer's tech people or person to insure you get what you need the first time.

[mghawk57]

Taking THEIR suggestion is hoping you get someone who knows what they are talking about.Get alot of information here may help in deciding for yourself.Just my .02

[LS2Tuner]

Taking THEIR suggestion is hoping you get someone who knows what they are talking about.Get alot of information here may help in deciding for yourself.Just my .02

Well if I tell the manufacture what I want and get something different then it will get returned FREE of charge and replaced. If I go off some "Joe Dick's" opinion I'm SOL. Sorry but ALL the company's I deal with only have VERY knowledgeable people in there tech department and enter many fields with your data in software to figure out exactly what your car wants. It's not just someone sitting at a desk taking guesses trying to get it right. . . . . . . . . Sorry but most are clueless on what a stator even does let alone what the differences are on benefits versus dis-advantages. So getting a bunch of numbers from people only adds to the cloud of confusion.

If the manufacture doesn't give you what they said then they will fix it. I don't think any members that gave you their opinions will help with replacement after it doesn't perform in your car as it did in there car. Every car is different weather it be due to tire dia,gear ratio,weight,cam,driver,etc. . . . . . . . . . .