Cobalt Ss Supercharged

[RYDER661]

As everyone knows ls1's are gas hogger's regardless of what people say 19mpg city and 28 hwy ss bs because i get 280 combined equal city n highway 19mpg time 16 gallon tank = 304 miles that assuming u drive only city so to get to the point i need a gas saving vehicle and i wont settle for a ugly 4 banger hybrid i want a performance 4 banger that saves gas that fits in my budget of under 25k i wanted to know what everyone thinks of performance 4 bangers like the ss superharged cobalt as opposed to the new civic si or the acura type s remember gas saving performance cars under 25k that look nice not turbo wrx's they dont save gas if you guys know of any other cars in the category of the cobalt ss supercharged please let me know this car looks cool n sporty plus ive seen it beat older gt mustangs on top end speed

[sscrazy]

I have posted about this before in here. I bought a cobalt ss/sc in march. And I am totally impresssed. The little thing has some balls. It runs a 14.1 @ 104mph. crazy huh? Gm has stage kits available for it , wich covers the warranty. Put that kit, a 50 shot and some drs, hello low 13's, plus just like the ls1 there are tons of mods available for the lsj 2.0 ecotech.

It gets great gas mileage too. That is why I bought it. I average 27-28 mpg, and that is with beating it everyday. I have had as good as 33mpg on the freeway. and like 27 in the city.

As for style I think its pretty cool looking. I know alot of people in here will flame the style, but it doesnt matter what everyone else thinks its what you think. I personally like the styling of the little fucker.

Go out and test drive one. I guarantee you will buy it.

[PuSha050]

i also wrote about the cobalt ss b4 on here. i own one and love it.. some info... chevy rated it at 205HP and 200 ft-lbs but they put down about 215-225HP and 190-210ft-lbs on a dynojet at the wheels. with about $1200 or so you can get about 270whp, which when coupled with 2800lbs of car, and drag radials will net you high 12;s and has already been done more than once. and the aftermarket support is in the baby stages and is increasing rapidly due to finally unlocking pcm tuning with HPtuners.

i can beat or hang with lots of cars that cost more, or people think are much faster. i know for a fact i can beat or tie stock 2004 or lower mustang GT's (do it all the time, best friend has one), stock srt-4's (drivers race and well, i can drive--but srt'4s are a wee bit faster..more torque), etc... ..the car is capable of approx 14.1 stock 1/4 mile but is a little hard 2 launch

the car absoultely handles its ass off and will outhandle most cars on the road. the suspension was tuned on the nurburhring (sp?) in germany. on the "track" i have taken turns at 120+ and the thing just holds it ass and goes.

the car comes with such things as an INTERCOOLED (water to air) eaton m62 supercharger, the ecotec lsj motor with forged internals (except the pistons), 18" rims, pirelli tires, a monsterous spoiler that is sort of a love/hate relationship with the owners but fits the character of the car, recaro seats and a quaife LSD (an option but of course i have it), sunroof, mp3 cd player, 7-speaker pioneer system with a 10" sub, among other things, all for about 23 grand (i paid 23,500 otd).

and most people dont kno how fast they are until they see u pass them. :wall:

[GatorSS]

A nice little toy for child's play...but, in a nutshell, it's just too little and wimpy. Get some real muscle.

[ITP]

A nice little toy for child's play...but, in a nutshell, it's just too little and wimpy. Get some real muscle.

Lighten up buddy.

[PuSha050]

A nice little toy for child's play...but, in a nutshell, it's just too little and wimpy. Get some real muscle.

yea wat crawled up your butt and died? never said they were MOnster Crazy FasT yO u CanT ToP mY 4-Cyl maN .. i cant wait till i graduate college in 2 yrs and buy myself a c5 vette and turbo it. i pay for my own car so i cant buy something i cant afford. (and used cars were out of the equation-warranty) if i want real muscle i go to my neighbors house and work on his 502 camaro.. is that enough real muscle for u? for the time being it fit my budget, nice looking car, does wat it is supposed to do really well, and satisfies my need for some speed... chill out

[cailey37]

Hey....I kinda like the fact that Chevrolet has come up with a car that hit's the imports.........and as far as whimpy....please....those little eotech motors have a lot left in them......one tricked out will take care of a stock SS........gotta remember power to weight......

[bigman]

Hey....I kinda like the fact that Chevrolet has come up with a car that hit's the imports.........and as far as whimpy....please....those little eotech motors have a lot left in them......one tricked out will take care of a stock SS........gotta remember power to weight......

MMy buddy has a worked cobalt ecotec with forged interals running high bosst. He runs high 11's at the track.

[cailey37]

MMy buddy has a worked cobalt ecotec with forged interals running high bosst. He runs high 11's at the track.

They will go if you put the money to them....heck...any motor will....just depends on how big your wallet is....:drivin:

Just finished with my recent project and it took more than I wanted to spend on it but when I hit that throttle I know where the money went.....

[bird2000]

My friend has an 06 cobalt ss supercharged. He has under $800 into it and ran a 13.9 at 101.4. This is with Stock tires worn to hell. The car has no problem hitting 140 mph. Sounds GREAT with an aftermarket pulley that gained him 6 psi for only $80. (roughly 60 horse). check out his cardomain. Just seach for member id syclone454 Tons of fun car and handles really good. Drives it like he stole and still get 24 mpg with no problems.

[pont3]

I think the Cobalt SS is a great little car, looks and performance-wise. Just keep in mind that the more power produced, the more fuel used. It doesn't matter whether it's a four/six/eight cylinder, it takes a certain amount of fuel to produce a certain amount of energy,(HP). You can granny-drive a V8 and achieve fourbanger economy, or drive a fourbanger in its upper limits and achieve V8 mileage. To achieve that low rpm V8 torque, you must drive smaller engines to higher rpm ranges which in turn, negates their frugality.

Don't get me wrong, I think the COBSS is a great choice but if you plan to drive it frequently at 9/10ths, you won't realize much in fuel savings.

[phoenix1987]

I have driven a Colbolt SS Supercharged. It was slow and weak. I do not know where you guys come up with the idea this car is fast. I sure it can be fast, but not stock. An srt4 would crush the Colbolt. I have seen his in person. I pretty sure one of these cars could not beat a 2004 mustang gt. Be proud of your cars, but come on.

[cailey37]

I have driven a Colbolt SS Supercharged. It was slow and weak. I do not know where you guys come up with the idea this car is fast. I sure it can be fast, but not stock. An srt4 would crush the Colbolt. I have seen his in person. I pretty sure one of these cars could not beat a 2004 mustang gt. Be proud of your cars, but come on.

Slow and weak???? You know these things have better 1/4 mile times than you 1987 TA???? I think people need to see what Chevrolet offers for these little cars in the way of aftermarket......I saw a show on Speed and they built one from all their parts and took it to the track and it absolutly raped all the other rice grinders and the almighty SRT-4.......it's a pretty good platform to build on.....bang for the buck I think it's been a long time coming for Chevrolet.......

[Hawk241]

My wife has an 04 saturn redline, bought it brand new, its the exact same motor/drivetrain as the cobalt ss,not sure if body weight is the same but I am here to tell u a few car magazines have tested both, and u know they do a dozen or so of runs, perfect set up with decent drivers and well C@r and dr*ver mag. got a 14.7 in 1/4 and a top speed of 141 mph. Her and I both have run the car, yeah very creative launcing and at best got a 14.9, but dont forget about correct e.t.. thats okay since mot@!r tre*^ds mag. best on a 02 mustang g.t. with a 5 speed (which is no differrent than an 04) was a 14.7 and the autos are slower. I also believe the rev limiter on the car is way to early, the car is just making some real power and the limiter kicks in so then shift! I know that some after market tuning will make a noticeable differrence. ITs not in the league of todays V-8s. Absoluetely will give imports something to think about!! Oh yeah, it is good on gas, and it is sort of a sleeper too. But dont forget, and it wasnt mentioned by the recent buyer, above, u have to run (warranty/ man. fact, says) only the best octane gas and Mobile 1. $:Potty:

[derrinx]

umm srt-4??!?!?!

some facts:
stock for stock will abuse a cobalt ss
fits WELL into your price range
gets pretty good gas milegae
has .4 more displacement thana civic or rsx, and also, IT HAS A TURBO, not to mention a sick looking sotkc front mount intercooler
for sucha cute car its sure is mean as hell, that is if you can look past the fact that its still a neon, but i think theyre cool as hell and they runw ith and beat ls1's

[cailey37]

umm srt-4??!?!?!

and they runw ith and beat ls1's


I'd like to see one of those beat an LS1.......stock for stock an LS1 is faster by far.....

[Wesman]

umm srt-4??!?!?!

some facts:
stock for stock will abuse a cobalt ss
fits WELL into your price range
gets pretty good gas milegae
has .4 more displacement thana civic or rsx, and also, IT HAS A TURBO, not to mention a sick looking sotkc front mount intercooler
for sucha cute car its sure is mean as hell, that is if you can look past the fact that its still a neon, but i think theyre cool as hell and they runw ith and beat ls1's

More like "some bullshit" :rolleyes:

First off, I wouldn't consider 15-20MPG "good gas mileage". Thats crappy as hell, especially for a 4 cylinder. It does have more torque a almost half a liter more displacement than a Civic or RSX, which means more torque and less lag.

I wouldn't consider the front mount intercooler "sick". I also wouldn't consider it a "cute car", its downright ugly actually.

And last but not least, an SRT-4 cannot even come close to touching an LS1, stock for stock. You would need thousands of dollars in mods, most likely a Mopar stage 3 package.

Please don't make shit up, it doesn't help anyone :rolleyes:

[derrinx]

More like "some bullshit" :rolleyes:

First off, I wouldn't consider 15-20MPG "good gas mileage". Thats crappy as hell, especially for a 4 cylinder. It does have more torque a almost half a liter more displacement than a Civic or RSX, which means more torque and less lag.

I wouldn't consider the front mount intercooler "sick". I also wouldn't consider it a "cute car", its downright ugly actually.

And last but not least, an SRT-4 cannot even come close to touching an LS1, stock for stock. You would need thousands of dollars in mods, most likely a Mopar stage 3 package.

Please don't make shit up, it doesn't help anyone :rolleyes:

making shit up?? a stock srt4 can witha good driver can do a 13.8, and with a moper stage 3 kit (3500 dollars) can do a 12.4 so who's making shit up? come close to even touching ohh please their only weakness is the fwd, which is the same as everyhitng else in his price range that he is considering. do you even know the specs on that engine? 230 hp and 250torque in a car that weighs 2900 pounds flat is fast no matter which way you look at it. granted its not an ls1 but people have gotten those cars into the 11s with the STOCK turbo. spend some time on other forums to see what is possible.. v8 ppl like you make the rest of us look like ignorant assholes

[Wesman]

making shit up?? a stock srt4 can witha good driver can do a 13.8, and with a moper stage 3 kit (3500 dollars) can do a 12.4 so who's making shit up?

Didn't say it couldn't.

come close to even touching ohh please their only weakness is the fwd, which is the same as everyhitng else in his price range that he is considering. do you even know the specs on that engine? 230 hp and 250torque in a car that weighs 2900 pounds flat is fast no matter which way you look at it. granted its not an ls1 but people have gotten those cars into the 11s with the STOCK turbo.

I already knew the engine specs as well as the weight. That doesn't change what I said.

spend some time on other forums to see what is possible.. v8 ppl like you make the rest of us look like ignorant assholes

I do. I didn't deny that the SRT-4 had a lot of potential or that it can be made fast with thousands of dollars in mods, specifically a Mopar Stage 3. In fact, I said exactly that. Learn to read, your post is nothing but a meaningless rant :rolleyes:

[Rich L]

As everyone knows ls1's are gas hogger's regardless of what people say 19mpg city and 28 hwy ss bs because i get 280 combined equal city n highway 19mpg time 16 gallon tank = 304 miles that assuming u drive only city so to get to the point i need a gas saving vehicle and i wont settle for a ugly 4 banger hybrid i want a performance 4 banger that saves gas that fits in my budget of under 25k i wanted to know what everyone thinks of performance 4 bangers like the ss superharged cobalt as opposed to the new civic si or the acura type s remember gas saving performance cars under 25k that look nice not turbo wrx's they dont save gas if you guys know of any other cars in the category of the cobalt ss supercharged please let me know this car looks cool n sporty plus ive seen it beat older gt mustangs on top end speed

If I may chime in... IMHO

The WRX is an excellent choice for good bang for the buck.
My other car is a 1999 Impreza RS (it came out a couple of years befor the WRX came to the states) it came stock with only 165hp.
I had Rallispec (NJ) put a custom turbo kit on it. With only 6psi, the car ran 13.5@101mph

While not the fastest car, it is an awesome street car, with good aftermarket support and has AWD traction. It is fun in rain, dirt, and sand too. You will still need to fill up with super unleaded though.

It is a very fun car to drive and should be considered.

[jomo]

For what the Cobalt SS is, its not a bad little car. Stock it will out handle a ls1 and brake better but not go faster in a striaght line.:shots:

[derrinx]

Didn't say it couldn't.

Yes you did. You said they can't come close to touching an ls1 stock for stock. Now, since mid 13's are possible in a stock srt-4, how is that not close to touching an ls1? People have said they cant break 14 in their stock LS1's, because they aren't the most skilled of drivers.

I already knew the engine specs as well as the weight. That doesn't change what I said.


What exactly did you say? You said my post was "bullshit", when all I stated were FACTS and a few opinions (like how I thought the front mount looked, and that it's a mean looking car). FACT is that a stock SRT-4 is in the same neighborhood as an LS1, taking into account driver skill. FACT they have more diplacement than the competitors (civics, rsx's, cavaliers... i mean cobalts)

I do. I didn't deny that the SRT-4 had a lot of potential or that it can be made fast with thousands of dollars in mods, specifically a Mopar Stage 3. In fact, I said exactly that. Learn to read, your post is nothing but a meaningless rant :rolleyes:

How much did a WS6 cost new? 32,900. How much is an srt 4 with a stage 3? 25,900.
Now don't go on ranting about about current values, because by that mentality he can go buy a 91 tsi and smoke everyhitng on the road for 4,500.
All I said was that the SRT-4, based on the competition, is a good option for what he is considering, and unless you have somethign useful to contribute to his quesiton, please don't troll this thread. Thanks.

[Wesman]

Yes you did. You said they can't come close to touching an ls1 stock for stock. Now, since mid 13's are possible in a stock srt-4, how is that not close to touching an ls1? People have said they cant break 14 in their stock LS1's, because they aren't the most skilled of drivers.

Mid 13's are not "possible in a stock SRT-4". Show me some evidence of a stock SRT-4 hitting a 13.5. Never heard of that. Best time I've ever heard of or seen was 13.8, and that was a factory freak. LS1's run anywhere from 13.5 (auto) to 13.2 (6-speed) stock, thats a pretty big gap compared to the SRT-4.

What exactly did you say? You said my post was "bullshit", when all I stated were FACTS and a few opinions (like how I thought the front mount looked, and that it's a mean looking car). FACT is that a stock SRT-4 is in the same neighborhood as an LS1, taking into account driver skill. FACT they have more diplacement than the competitors (civics, rsx's, cavaliers... i mean cobalts)

The stock SRT-4 is not "in the same neighborhood" as a stock LS1. With equal drivers, the LS1 F-Body will win every time. Its pointless to say "well if the SRT-4 driver was better...", thats just retarded.

[cailey37]

How about we leave it at it's about time American Auto makers started putting out cars that will run with the rice grinders.........I'm glad to see the Cobalt SS's, Dodge SRT-4's, and even the Soltices..........can't wait to see if Pontiac turbo charges that thing.......I think JOMO hit the nail on the head when he said those things will out handle an LS1 but in a straight line...sure....an LS1 should win every time....But.....start adding things onto it and you might have your hands full if you have a stock LS1.......power to weight ratio..........

[Stone]

I got my Srt-4 to a 13.79 twice but you are definatly right.........equal drivers with a srt and T/A, the T/A will come out ahead every time.

[Stone]

More like "some bullshit" :rolleyes:

First off, I wouldn't consider 15-20MPG "good gas mileage". Thats crappy as hell, especially for a 4 cylinder. It does have more torque a almost half a liter more displacement than a Civic or RSX, which means more torque and less lag.

I wouldn't consider the front mount intercooler "sick". I also wouldn't consider it a "cute car", its downright ugly actually.

And last but not least, an SRT-4 cannot even come close to touching an LS1, stock for stock. You would need thousands of dollars in mods, most likely a Mopar stage 3 package.

Please don't make shit up, it doesn't help anyone :rolleyes:

Ive got about $1200 in motor mods in my car and i pulled 2 Ws6s both trapping around 110, on the street from a dig and roll. But i prolly get worse gas mileage than you(16mpg street)

[Wesman]

Im glad you ask such a question. WHy not buy a civic SI with vtec like me? Ive invested 10k into the engine and im running high 9s in the 1/4th. You should see the reactions on some of the dumbestic guys faces when I eat them by 8 car lengths. Like this one redneck in his camaro SS quote " You gotsa 1.8 litre? it dont make no sence, it juss dont make no sence ". Also Vtec civics are chick magnets. Once they hear the roar of Vtec they just want to be in your car all the time. Also the civic is awesome on gas and it never breaks down like those big gas guzzling dumbestics. There are alot more reasons why to get a vtec civic but thats all i can type for now, peace.

This must be a joke. You can't be serious.

Either you're kidding, or your the most retarded ricer I've ever heard in my life :hahano:

[ramrod]

I have driven a Colbolt SS Supercharged. It was slow and weak. I do not know where you guys come up with the idea this car is fast. I sure it can be fast, but not stock. An srt4 would crush the Colbolt. I have seen his in person. I pretty sure one of these cars could not beat a 2004 mustang gt. Be proud of your cars, but come on.

I think spending that type of cash for a powerplant is just not logical! For what purpose? Maybe to do your daily commute, have a reliable car, and maybe score some points with women who think (Cobalt SS) is the coolest car around, and defin of fast just might be that combo of an automobile! I think it's great that GM is now offering a line of cars to knock arch rivals of Honda's, and etc, but lets compare apples to apples. I am not knocking the car, but it would of been great to see a different type of force induction on that powerplant. Be proud of what yuo have yes, but if it's all you have, and you think you can make it faster than a solid v 6, or an 8. Ladies, and Gentlemen be prepared to spend some high defintion of a coin!:yup:

[smokeyburnouts]

i just bought a SS Cobalt as my daily driver. its very impressive. its super quick for what it is and handles well. i get around 30mpg on the highway also. i suppose if i had to have it as my 'play/race car' it could still be fun w/ all the aftermarket stuff available for it, but for me i like it stock and as a DD. i'll use the T/A for performance driving.

[00 GTP Debadged]

I was at the track last weekend and saw one run a 14.3 totally stock. I am not impressed with the gas mileage though. My grand prix gets 19 in the city and usually around 27 on the highway. It would do better, but I can't keep my foot out of it.


Randy

[wicked1]

As far as fuel economy, I have a 2000 WS6. Normaly run it around 70mph eveywhere I go with frequent trips up to around 110mph. Even driving like that I still get 22-24 mpg. The very best I ever got babying it was 26 mpg. Like Ive read on this thread, you build a cobalt to run like an ls1 and it probably wont get any better mileage than that.