SRT-8 kills 2 LS1s this weekend.

[Deuuuce]

I like kills stories and would love to hear from others and their experiences w/ SRT-8s (NOT R/Ts or Daytonas, they don't count!). Finding a stock LS1 these days who wants to race is pretty rare, I'm sure.

1. Automatic LS1, tire/wheel package, solo driver, exhaust tips are hidden?? (unusual, I know). I have a passenger (225lbs!). We both go WOT after a turn onto a highway, I fumble w/ the autostick giving him an edge but run him down in 3rd gear passing by him. He won't look over as he turns at the next light.

2. This one is BARELY a kill. LS1 T/A, 6spd, tinted windows and tailights. We slow down on the highway and finally go at it after several attempts. In 2nd only briefly, he's a little ahead, shifts and pulls a little more. In 3rd I start passing him. It's pretty close and since 3rd is my gear in the 1/4 and my hp peak is at redline, it seemed fair. We both give a thumbs up/v-victory sign and go on our way.

OH! I think the GT was in the wrong gear and didn't want to rev his motor w/ the downshift. No objective, published 1/4 test gives the Z that much of an advantage, if any at all. Sorry, had to comment!

[jasonisdn]

I like kills stories and would love to hear from others and their experiences w/ SRT-8s (NOT R/Ts or Daytonas, they don't count!). Finding a stock LS1 these days who wants to race is pretty rare, I'm sure.

1. Automatic LS1, tire/wheel package, solo driver, exhaust tips are hidden?? (unusual, I know). I have a passenger (225lbs!). We both go WOT after a turn onto a highway, I fumble w/ the autostick giving him an edge but run him down in 3rd gear passing by him. He won't look over as he turns at the next light.

2. This one is BARELY a kill. LS1 T/A, 6spd, tinted windows and tailights. We slow down on the highway and finally go at it after several attempts. In 2nd only briefly, he's a little ahead, shifts and pulls a little more. In 3rd I start passing him. It's pretty close and since 3rd is my gear in the 1/4 and my hp peak is at redline, it seemed fair. We both give a thumbs up/v-victory sign and go on our way.

OH! I think the GT was in the wrong gear and didn't want to rev his motor w/ the downshift. No objective, published 1/4 test gives the Z that much of an advantage, if any at all. Sorry, had to comment!
good kill , what you got done to the neon. kind of wondering how good dodge put it together. if they keep heading the way they are going dodge will be a name you will see on the street alot more in coming years.

[Deuuuce]

good kill , what you got done to the neon. kind of wondering how good dodge put it together. if they keep heading the way they are going dodge will be a name you will see on the street alot more in coming years.

Not sure why my signature isn't showing but SRT-8s are not Neons. Those would be fwd SRT-4s. Not sure if you were joking.

My Charger is stock, 365rwhp, done in 3rd gear w/ 1500 miles on the odo.

[jasonisdn]

Not sure why my signature isn't showing but SRT-8s are not Neons. Those would be fwd SRT-4s. Not sure if you were joking.

My Charger is stock, 365rwhp, done in 3rd gear w/ 1500 miles on the odo.
lmao sorry about that i read 8 and thought 4 . my bad

[bene]

Wow, I didn't think they'd be that fast with all that weight.

[silverTA2002]

:D

That's twice recently I've read about people thinking an SRT-8 or SRT-10 is a NEON. :D:D

Now, I think people are just messing with the MOPAR guys!!

[silverTA2002]

Wow, I didn't think they'd be that fast with all that weight.

With 425hp........:Popcorn:

[Deuuuce]

Wow, I didn't think they'd be that fast with all that weight.

It's a really large, heavy car (4160lbs) but has a great powertrain and a 5spd auto. The hp peak is at 6200rpm, redline, so it just keeps pulling.

Most owners are running low 13s w/ 108-110mph trap speeds. A few have dipped into the 12s, stock, on cool days w/ great 60fts. I.E. PERFECT conditions...

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

Sweet...hopefully i'll see one going my direction one of these days

[Danger731]

whats one look like ? to distinguish from others ?

[Deuuuce]

whats one look like ? to distinguish from others ?

The Charger: Hood scoop (for cooling only), deeper, rectangular front skirt, 20", 5 spoke rims w/ red Brembo calipers, rear spoiler, badges. Only available in red, silver or black.

300C: Deeper front skirt, 20" rims (10 spoke?) w/ silver Brembos, very small rear deck lip, badges.

[third_shift|studios]

soooo pretty much just as retarded looking as the others, with some more HP.

[Deuuuce]

soooo pretty much just as retarded looking as the others, with some more HP.

Good one! Not as overdone w/ tacky add-on's like a WS6, but close....and t-tops are not available, either. :lol:

[toneloc60]

you said the GT may have been in the wrong gear, but you didn't talk about running a GT. Were you talking about one of the LS1s you ran, or another race all together.

Nice kills by the way. I like those SRT-8 Chargers. Nice looking 4-door. I'd be all over it if I needed a 4-door. Just no need right now.

[Zboner]

I was not impressed at all with this car. to big and bulky and slow and pizza cutters for tires also. now it if was a 2 door like it should of been then it might be a different story. i cant wait for the challenger. now that looks like a real car, hope they dont fuck up again

[Deuuuce]

you said the GT may have been in the wrong gear, but you didn't talk about running a GT. Were you talking about one of the LS1s you ran, or another race all together.

Nice kills by the way. I like those SRT-8 Chargers. Nice looking 4-door. I'd be all over it if I needed a 4-door. Just no need right now.

I was just putting in my $.02 on the GT vs. Z-06 debate that closed. No need to kick a dead horse, though.

[Deuuuce]

I was not impressed at all with this car. to big and bulky and slow and pizza cutters for tires also. now it if was a 2 door like it should of been then it might be a different story. i cant wait for the challenger. now that looks like a real car, hope they dont fuck up again

Compared to what? If you want to make generalizations, I could say the exact same thing about F-bodies.

Let's see - runs low 13s w/ traps in the 108-110 range, .9 on the skidpad, 245/255 Goodyear F1s, handles as good as any mid/large 4door (faster than a STS-V and .1 sec and 1.5sec behind a CLS55 and M5 at Grattan, both 12sec cars), 1:58 at Laguna, stock, 170mph top end.

Oh, 245 F1s front, 255s rear. Yeah, pizza cutters, sure.

It's big, it's bulky, but is sure isn't slow.

[Zboner]

when i drove it, it felt slow to me, but i have not had a stock F bod it a while. im not a fan of 4 doors, and i felt like i was so small in the big car and im a big guy 6'1" 230. just didnt feel right to me for a sports car, i have no doubts its fast.

but imagine if it was a 2 door

[john]

I'd love to have a 300C SRT-8, but at nearly $50k I don't think it's going to happen. Not that I think that is too much money, it's a steal for what you get. I just don't have it to spend.

[ss~zoso~ss]

i love the look of the chargers, way nicer than the GTO imo, but i wish they made a 2 door that was a little more affordable

[Danger731]

Good one! Not as overdone w/ tacky add-on's like a WS6, but close....and t-tops are not available, either. :lol:

ha ha

[Deuuuce]

when i drove it, it felt slow to me, but i have not had a stock F bod it a while. im not a fan of 4 doors, and i felt like i was so small in the big car and im a big guy 6'1" 230. just didnt feel right to me for a sports car, i have no doubts its fast.

but imagine if it was a 2 door

It is a huge car. But great for a daily driver, roomy, and I needed a 4door for work. Personally I can't wait for the Challenger, either.

[Zboner]

true for a "work car" but for my daily i like the 2 door, and if i need to put shit in a car i just trade my mom for her SUV of dad for his truck

i hope the challenger is affordable so that everyone can buy it.

hope its not 40k for one

[Danger731]

I like the looks as well, seems bigger than the 70's style but it is selling....

[Deuuuce]

true for a "work car" but for my daily i like the 2 door, and if i need to put shit in a car i just trade my mom for her SUV of dad for his truck

i hope the challenger is affordable so that everyone can buy it.

hope its not 40k for one

I'm guessing it probably will be, unfortunately. If history holds true, the SRT-8s start in the high 30s and so it will too. And the Challenger SRT-8 will have limited production volume as well which won't help. Oh well.

[blue04gto]

First good kill, it always feels good to win.

However, racing LS1's probably isnt a good judgement of how fast an SRT-8 is seeing you have a 70 horsepower advantage (420HP vs 350HP-LS1 GTO reference)to make up for weight. So you should probably race an LS2 powered corvette or GTO to get a better feel.

But the SRT-8 is very nice, and looks great. But for 45,000 that's kinda steep, at least for me. But with an extra 15,000 dollars a LS1 would blow an SRT-8 away. I wanted to race those HEMI 300C's and Chargers but just havent had a chance. Oh well, the cam, exhaust and tune will happen in 2 weeks so they lost their chance to catch me slipping.

Nice car once again.

[third_shift|studios]

Compared to what? If you want to make generalizations, I could say the exact same thing about F-bodies.

Let's see - runs low 13s w/ traps in the 108-110 range, .9 on the skidpad, 245/255 Goodyear F1s, handles as good as any mid/large 4door (faster than a STS-V and .1 sec and 1.5sec behind a CLS55 and M5 at Grattan, both 12sec cars), 1:58 at Laguna, stock, 170mph top end.

Oh, 245 F1s front, 255s rear. Yeah, pizza cutters, sure.

It's big, it's bulky, but is sure isn't slow.

http://www.craphound.com/images/inettoughguy.jpg

chillout troll boy. It's gonna be hard telling avid f-bod lovers that some sedan is better looking than a ws.6

[Deuuuce]

http://www.craphound.com/images/inettoughguy.jpg

chillout troll boy. It's gonna be hard telling avid f-bod lovers that some sedan is better looking than a ws.6

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not trying to convince anyone, just responding to an insult.

[Deuuuce]

First good kill, it always feels good to win.

However, racing LS1's probably isnt a good judgement of how fast an SRT-8 is seeing you have a 70 horsepower advantage (420HP vs 350HP-LS1 GTO reference)to make up for weight. So you should probably race an LS2 powered corvette or GTO to get a better feel.

But the SRT-8 is very nice, and looks great. But for 45,000 that's kinda steep, at least for me. But with an extra 15,000 dollars a LS1 would blow an SRT-8 away. I wanted to race those HEMI 300C's and Chargers but just havent had a chance. Oh well, the cam, exhaust and tune will happen in 2 weeks so they lost their chance to catch me slipping.

Nice car once again.

I greatly appreciate it, thanks! I agree somewhat. The Charger forum had a hot debate about LS-1s actually making closer to 370-385hp and some running 12s stock. Either way not many are stock and I'm always up for a race. I think a C5 6spd would be the closest race and there is a big rivalry w/ the GTOs.

Fully loaded at $43.5 makes a pretty nice, luxurious car but no question, $15k on ANY car takes it into the 12s or faster. Mine just happens to have a serious weight penalty which means it will always have that disadvantage.

And needing a 4door, thank goodness I didn't get an Evo or STi, right?!!??

[mrr23]

which if it doesn't stop from both sides, will get locked. personally, i liked your WS6 comeback. that was a good one.

[blue04gto]

if stock, ls1's won't win against a stock srt8, that's just fact. Their has been some, mainly f-bodies that dyno around 320-325 to the wheels.

its good tho that you didnt choose a sti or evo, just not as nice IMO.

[az gt eater]

I want to throw my 2cents in. I looked at the SRT8 and the GTO and I thought that the GTO looked like an Accord with wheels that were way too small for the side of the car. I fell in love withthe SRT*, but the down payment I would have made on it paid for a WS6 and have a very nice, fast car. It gets the same gas mileage and you can't tell the difference in HP. I am happy. Now if only I could get a LS6 in there.....I got 321 to the wheels with 338 ft lbs. It'll do for now.

[Bob'sWS6]

Good kill. Given your significant power advantage i'm not at all surprised by the outcome. Just don't think that all cars are stock cause they sound stock, cause you might be in for a run :D

Keep the kills coming.

[Roastem]

Sweet...hopefully i'll see one going my direction one of these days

+1

I can't wait either. :xfingers:

[Roastem]

Good one! Not as overdone w/ tacky add-on's like a WS6, but close....and t-tops are not available, either. :lol:

I like the SRT-8, I think it looks badass. I like the WS6 too, that thing is wicked also. The new Challenger is sweeter than them both, but not sweeter than the new Camaro!

[Roastem]

Good kill. Given your significant power advantage i'm not at all surprised by the outcome. Just don't think that all cars are stock cause they sound stock, cause you might be in for a run :D

Keep the kills coming.

Hey Bob, from your mods list and mine, I think we got something for that SRT-8's ass.

[blue04gto]

Whatever you like is what you like. Personally the newer f-bodies from 93-on aren't visually appealing to me and lack style because its just a pointed front end with a round back, and the interior in all f-bodies are disappointing as well but that's just my opinion. Apparently both f-bodies and GTO's aren't that appealing or they would still be making them. But just about any car can be saved with aftermarket products to change the look and make it your own. It's just if you are willing to have the manufacturer do it, and that's why the SRT-8 costs so damn much, but looks bitchin.

But do you really think a GTO looks like an accord? not even close. And the interor is immaculate compared to any f-body. I do agree that the wheel wells don't accomadate for wider wheels. a few pics are attached to show some good GTO pics. The blue one is mine, but the camera sucks so its kinda blury.

[Black GT]

Looks good with the blue seats/interior.

Do you have the blue gauges as well?

[blue04gto]

yep got the blue gauges, and it also has blue suede inserts on the doors and blue stitching on the steering wheel and shifter boot to match.

[Roastem]

The blue on blue was what I wanted. Too bad it has a damn IRS, that is gonna make gear changes ugly and expensive.

[s197]

yep got the blue gauges, and it also has blue suede inserts on the doors and blue stitching on the steering wheel and shifter boot to match.
I looked at an 04 GTO when the Mustang was on order. It was red on red and man I loved that interior. The only thing that I didn't like were the knobs for the HVAC controls but everything else was top notch.

[blue04gto]

yeah, actually my choice was between the Goat and the GT, but the price and what i got for the price is what sold me. I got mine with 10,000 miles for 23,000 and it came leather,200 watt 6 disc cd changer and radio, matching gauges, 350hp and m6 tranny vs. for a 05 GT fully loaded i would be at $30,000 so i went with the Goat.

[s197]

yeah, actually my choice was between the Goat and the GT, but the price and what i got for the price is what sold me. I got mine with 10,000 miles for 23,000 and it came leather,200 watt 6 disc cd changer and radio, matching gauges, 350hp and m6 tranny vs. for a 05 GT fully loaded i would be at $30,000 so i went with the Goat.
My GT was 29K with every option but the slushbox auto. I got leather, 1000W 6disk mp3 stereo, 125 color guages(more of a toy, I set it to one color and it hasn't changed), 100K warranty. I could have bought the goat for the same price (sticker was 33K) but wanted the Legend Lime color. If the car had been blue on blue like yours, the decision would have been much harder. It seems like every car I see is either red or black and I wanted something that would stand out. I really like your car.

http://2005stang.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10035/normal_hoodstripes1.jpg

[Black GT]

My GT was 29K with every option but the slushbox auto. I got leather, 1000W 6disk mp3 stereo, 125 color guages(more of a toy, I set it to one color and it hasn't changed), 100K warranty. I could have bought the goat for the same price (sticker was 33K) but wanted the Legend Lime color. If the car had been blue on blue like yours, the decision would have been much harder. It seems like every car I see is either red or black and I wanted something that would stand out. I really like your car.

http://2005stang.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10035/normal_hoodstripes1.jpg

What is that in the middle of your dash? Some kind of gauge?

[fspeedster]

I greatly appreciate it, thanks! I agree somewhat. The Charger forum had a hot debate about LS-1s actually making closer to 370-385hp and some running 12s stock. Either way not many are stock and I'm always up for a race. I think a C5 6spd would be the closest race and there is a big rivalry w/ the GTOs.

Fully loaded at $43.5 makes a pretty nice, luxurious car but no question, $15k on ANY car takes it into the 12s or faster. Mine just happens to have a serious weight penalty which means it will always have that disadvantage.

And needing a 4door, thank goodness I didn't get an Evo or STi, right?!!??
STi any time over any dudge.

[nhraformula]

i had an srt8 kinda mess with me about a month ago.
he was along side of me and would goose it.
he did that 3 times and on the third time i also goosed it.
i goosed it to the point that my rear end went sideways and towards him, lol.
i stabed the gas at 27mph which is my sweetspot.
after that he wanted no part of me

[Deuuuce]

i had an srt8 kinda mess with me about a month ago.
he was along side of me and would goose it.
he did that 3 times and on the third time i also goosed it.
i goosed it to the point that my rear end went sideways and towards him, lol.
i stabed the gas at 27mph which is my sweetspot.
after that he wanted no part of me

Was your ET on slicks? The SRT8 should have raced you anyway, since they trap around 108-110. It would have been fun and 27mph is a sweetspot for them too.

[Street Lethal]

...i goosed it to the point that my rear end went sideways

:D

[KageSS]

Show us a photo of ure 06 charger SRT-8. :shots: Later

[nhraformula]

Was your ET on slicks? The SRT8 should have raced you anyway, since they trap around 108-110. It would have been fun and 27mph is a sweetspot for them too.
my et wasnt on slicks. with slicks ill be in the 11s

[cubicpower89]

Ok so this dont seem right, are R/Ts the same as SRT8's. If they are wat is the difference. My dad just got a brand new 06' R/T and I rolled him with traction problems. Shut off at about 90 and had a good length on him maybe 1 1/2.

Please explain
Thanks David

[KageSS]

Was your ET on slicks? The SRT8 should have raced you anyway, since they trap around 108-110. It would have been fun and 27mph is a sweetspot for them too.
Hey Deuuuce bag , get it "deuuuce bag" as in u know:yup::yup: :lol: Show us a picture of your ride B-aaaaatch :shots:

[illcul8troffcr]

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/sedans/0506_dodge_charger_srt8/

nice lil link with some pics and specs of this SRT-8

[KageSS]

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/sedans/0506_dodge_charger_srt8/

nice lil link with some pics and specs of this SRT-8
Good deal. Checked it out. Those are ugly A$$ rides. :thumbdn: I don't give a $hit if they have 800hp.... :jerkit: Hey nice set up, you can't go wrong with an Alpine. Have one my self. Alpine CDA-9833 head unit with XM setup /Infinity Kappas/ and JL Audio 10w6v2 stealth subbox... :shots: later

[Deuuuce]

Show us a photo of ure 06 charger SRT-8. :shots: Later

Some pics for you.

[Deuuuce]

my et wasnt on slicks. with slicks ill be in the 11s

Your MPH seems pretty low for 12.0s. How come?

[Deuuuce]

Ok so this dont seem right, are R/Ts the same as SRT8's. If they are wat is the difference. My dad just got a brand new 06' R/T and I rolled him with traction problems. Shut off at about 90 and had a good length on him maybe 1 1/2.

Please explain
Thanks David

Entirely different drivetrain and suspension package.

R/Ts and Daytonas are 5.7s, 340-350hp.

SRT-8s are 6.1s, 425hp, beefed up internals (rods, crank, oil squirters, sodium filled valves, etc) and axles.
Bilsteins front, Sachs Nivomats rear, 20" wheels w/ big Brembos on Goodyear F1 Supercar tires. That set-up is probably more significant than the hp upgrade.

[illcul8troffcr]

Some pics for you.
hot ass car bro but you know what would make it unbelievable... suicide the back doors .. that would look too tight and then lambo kit all 4 doors.

[s197]

Some pics for you.
Where are the pics of the good part??? Lets see the Hemi

[Spaz]

Your MPH seems pretty low for 12.0s. How come?

hp vs tq...

hp is how fast you go... tq is how fast you get there... in a nut shell...

[Deuuuce]

Where are the pics of the good part??? Lets see the Hemi

This is with the narrow plastic covers over the spark plug wires:

[Roastem]

This is with the narrow plastic covers over the spark plug wires:

Man, do I love that motor. HEMI!!

[rsuplita]

Entirely different drivetrain and suspension package.

R/Ts and Daytonas are 5.7s, 340-350hp.

SRT-8s are 6.1s, 425hp, beefed up internals (rods, crank, oil squirters, sodium filled valves, etc) and axles.
Bilsteins front, Sachs Nivomats rear, 20" wheels w/ big Brembos on Goodyear F1 Supercar tires. That set-up is probably more significant than the hp upgrade.


Good kills, but since you're 6.1L, 425hp it sounds like it's time for you to try your luck against the LS2. :)

[nhraformula]

Your MPH seems pretty low for 12.0s. How come?
its about avarage for an f-body modded like mine.
it was also in warm weather.

[az gt eater]

:buttkick: Best of Dodge versus best of Chevy? Race him, race him!

[robb4964]

:lol: good kill , what you got done to the neon. kind of wondering how good dodge put it together. if they keep heading the way they are going dodge will be a name you will see on the street alot more in coming years.

[robb4964]

I like kills stories and would love to hear from others and their experiences w/ SRT-8s (NOT R/Ts or Daytonas, they don't count!). Finding a stock LS1 these days who wants to race is pretty rare, I'm sure.

1. Automatic LS1, tire/wheel package, solo driver, exhaust tips are hidden?? (unusual, I know). I have a passenger (225lbs!). We both go WOT after a turn onto a highway, I fumble w/ the autostick giving him an edge but run him down in 3rd gear passing by him. He won't look over as he turns at the next light.

2. This one is BARELY a kill. LS1 T/A, 6spd, tinted windows and tailights. We slow down on the highway and finally go at it after several attempts. In 2nd only briefly, he's a little ahead, shifts and pulls a little more. In 3rd I start passing him. It's pretty close and since 3rd is my gear in the 1/4 and my hp peak is at redline, it seemed fair. We both give a thumbs up/v-victory sign and go on our way.

OH! I think the GT was in the wrong gear and didn't want to rev his motor w/ the downshift. No objective, published 1/4 test gives the Z that much of an advantage, if any at all. Sorry, had to comment!



Nice kills and nice car.

Id love to have raced you when I had just lid,catback...:firedevil
It wouldnt be fair or even a race at this point.


Although I just had another child and I was considering a new 300c srt8. I need something roomy and fast. May wait for a good deal on a charger.

How much did you pay for yours?

[camarolvr69]

anyone see the episodes of dream car garage where they did the hemi challenge?
they did a whole bunch of upgrades to the srt8 charger : suspension, supercharger, intake, etc. After they were done upgrading the car they did a performance test. The srt8 stock did mid 13's and after the upgrades it still ran in 13's :dunno:
I guess my question is why isnt it running better with the blower and other stuff on it? :Popcorn:

[Street Lethal]

I guess my question is why isnt it running better with the blower and other stuff on it? :Popcorn:

Although I definitely agree with you, it really does depend on the driver though...

[Mr. Luos]

Waiting to run one of these cars. :yup:

I got a 300C with the Hemi. Not sure which model. Murdered it, so probably the lower HP car.

[camarolvr69]

well yeah Tom Hnatiw was the driver.. and hes no lightweight. i think hes like 250+ :lol:

[RedT/Anumber1]

shity driver + heavy driver = Shity times:lol:

[aspkkr]

Wow, I didn't think they'd be that fast with all that weight.
Your right their not that fast. I raced a srt-8 charger just this weekend and pulled almost a full car length in first then when I hit second I started really pulling away. It was not even close. All I have is a TB, MAF, LID and exhaust on a 2002 ws.6. The funny part was he begged me to race. I guess someone is telling these guys that they have the hottest thing going, and they really believe it until they actually race. The guy I raced was truly suprised that My TA beat him. He acted like he had been mislead by the dodge dealer. Oyeah he had a catback system and a bunch of stickers in his windows. I guess that heavy car eats all that horsepower up. The guy was nice enough and didnt try to come up with any excuses. Anyway just wanted to set things straight speaking from real life experience.

[robb4964]

Your right their not that fast. I raced a srt-8 charger just this weekend and pulled almost a full car length in first then when I hit second I started really pulling away. It was not even close. All I have is a TB, MAF, LID and exhaust on a 2002 ws.6. The funny part was he begged me to race. I guess someone is telling these guys that they have the hottest thing going, and they really believe it until they actually race. The guy I raced was truly suprised that My TA beat him. He acted like he had been mislead by the dodge dealer. Oyeah he had a catback system and a bunch of stickers in his windows. I guess that heavy car eats all that horsepower up. The guy was nice enough and didnt try to come up with any excuses. Anyway just wanted to set things straight speaking from real life experience.
maf,lid,exhaust=12 second LS1.
Excuses dont do any good when you drive an automatic its all up to the car unless he raced from a dead spot he couldnt have any.

DOes not mean his car is slow just means your is fast.

Are you sure it was a 425 HP package?Wasnt a 345 hp one? I have no doubt you won, but to say its slow?

[Deuuuce]

Although I definitely agree with you, it really does depend on the driver though...

I saw that too. I think they did a lousy job tuning it, obviously. Probably didn't do anything for fuel delivery. Plus they showed from a handling and braking standpoint they couldn't improve what was already pretty well dialed in. It was a stupid episode.

To answer another question, I paid sticker (most do), $43.5k. Included power & heated seats, roof, nav, blue tooth, Boston Acoustic sound system w/ Kicker amp, Sirius for 1 year, dual zone climate control, alarm, side airbags, etc. etc. Fully loaded.

[aspkkr]

maf,lid,exhaust=12 second LS1.
Excuses dont do any good when you drive an automatic its all up to the car unless he raced from a dead spot he couldnt have any.

DOes not mean his car is slow just means your is fast.

Are you sure it was a 425 HP package?Wasnt a 345 hp one? I have no doubt you won, but to say its slow?
I guess I should have phrased that different. I know that his car is not slow just not as fast as I was lead to believe. It was the SRT-8 and it was closer than what I made it sound like. I raced a R/T Charger also at a stoplight. It was not even close. So there is a huge difference in the two. I didnt mean to cut down his car, I'm just real happy with mine.