New Mustang GT

[TimeslipRegistry]

I'm rolling off the light when this new Mustang GT vert. with a yuppie looking guy pops out from a side street. He gets next to me at about 25 and nails it. There's no traffic ahead so I punch the Z.

First gear I stop his pull, second gear I clear almost three, and by the top of third he's a spot in my rearview. At the next light he gets in a turn lane and doesn't get up next to me. A dude in a Silverado that was behind us caught up at the light. I heard him yell "You got worked!" to the the Mustang driver.

[Musclefan21]

great kill.. '' you got worked '' :lol:

[1997 lt1 T/A]

notta u

[2000z28]

yeah i can believe that, there was a guy at the track a couple wks ago, and he had a new mustang GT and he couldnt get below 14 seconds in the 1/4, maybe he was a crappy driver or maybe the mustang is a little overhyped, i wouldnt mind racing one in my z28 though

[SR71]

I think they overhyped them a bit. My brother used my Trans Am to go the barbershop one day (lightly modded) and called me about 20 minutes later telling me he just pulled one from a dig by three cars up to about 90 and then shut it down. I remember seeing an episode of Horsepower TV, where they put one on the dyno and it laid down 220 or so to the wheels. They put a CAI and an exhaust on it and got it up to around 230ish or so. Not bashing mustangs, just saying what I saw.

[s197]

I think they overhyped them a bit. My brother used my Trans Am to go the barbershop one day (lightly modded) and called me about 20 minutes later telling me he just pulled one from a dig by three cars up to about 90 and then shut it down. I remember seeing an episode of Horsepower TV, where they put one on the dyno and it laid down 220 or so to the wheels. They put a CAI and an exhaust on it and got it up to around 230ish or so. Not bashing mustangs, just saying what I saw.
No, it was 120hp at the wheels....not one of these threads again.....:thinkin:

[LS1Power06]

No, it was 120hp at the wheels....not one of these threads again.....:thinkin:

120? seriously? my little .6L R6 makes a tad more than that at the engine :lol:

[ZAPFOOL!!]

raced one or two in my truck...to be honest its kinda sad

[Huskerz1]

raced one or two in my truck...to be honest its kinda sad

I don't even waste my time anymore with GT's. Punks pull up and wanna race me all the time. I just rub my fingers together and ask how much? I've decided that beating on my SS against a GT should be worth something. If I posted every GT kill I'd be a thread hog. As far as the new mustang GT's go... They still suck ass like before. I'll never respect a naturally aspirated 4.6. Untill they come with the 5.4 they'll suck.

[ZAPFOOL!!]

I don't even waste my time anymore with GT's. Punks pull up and wanna race me all the time. I just rub my fingers together and ask how much? I've decided that beating on my SS against a GT should be worth something. If I posted every GT kill I'd be a thread hog. As far as the new mustang GT's go... They still suck ass like before. I'll never respect a naturally aspirated 4.6. Untill they come with the 5.4 they'll suck.


yep...ill stick with my blown 5.4

[john]

I think they overhyped them a bit. My brother used my Trans Am to go the barbershop one day (lightly modded) and called me about 20 minutes later telling me he just pulled one from a dig by three cars up to about 90 and then shut it down. I remember seeing an episode of Horsepower TV, where they put one on the dyno and it laid down 220 or so to the wheels. They put a CAI and an exhaust on it and got it up to around 230ish or so. Not bashing mustangs, just saying what I saw.


That episode has been discussed here before. I think the conclusion was it was not an '05+ mustang gt, but a sn95 car with two valve heads.

john

[Camarofan]

RE:by the top of third he's a spot in my rearview

:bs:


I don't know where you guys live, or how these guys drive these stangs, but I've seen your Z's get worked on the track where I'm at. It's back and forth. A Z will triumph, then a stang would also. A WS6 got worked just this last Wednesday By an 05 that has shorty's CAI and tune and an axle back. I don't know what the Ws6 had done to it. I raced an SS and I blew it by creeping forward and red lighted.. He launched ahead and won due to my screw up, but he didn't pull on me in third gear like I thought he would. I was realing him in suprisingly to me. He won by two car lengths. I wanted him again so I could launch this beast on him. I was at the track all day and I never saw an 05/06 get worked the way you guyz talk on this board(specs in the mirror,etc..). What am I missing? :dunno: Are you racing V6's?

[Camarofan]

I don't even waste my time anymore with GT's. Punks pull up and wanna race me all the time. I just rub my fingers together and ask how much? I've decided that beating on my SS against a GT should be worth something. If I posted every GT kill I'd be a thread hog. As far as the new mustang GT's go... They still suck ass like before. I'll never respect a naturally aspirated 4.6. Untill they come with the 5.4 they'll suck.
My brother lives down in Texas. When I visit him, I wouldn't mind passin through Dallas/Fort Worth and giving you a race that you will appreciate:drivin:

[Camarofan]

I know the flame is about to start, but I'm sorry guys,Your Z's and SS's aren't all that. I've raced more powerful cars than a lot of you have and they don't even leave me like you guys say you leave the 05/06's. The only way is if you all drive low 11/high 10 second cars. If you have that under your hood, then you are as fast as you say you are. If your in the 12's, you'd better at least be in the low 12's. High twelves Is not good enough because guys are cracking into the 12's with some bolt on's in the 05/06's.

[Jason05GTO]

I havent met a GT yet that can hang with my stock GTO. I tried to get a dude in a Rausch Stang to race me the other day, and he wouldnt play.

[TACE02]

HMMMM!!! where are all these 12 second 05/06 GTs. None of em want to play with me. They all just simply turn when I come around. I at least would like to play. Hell I will even give them a thumbs up if they beat me. It's all good, just having fun. And a stock GT, ummmm easily a disappearing in my rearview by 4th gear (3.42 gears still installed.) And still haven't seen any of them at our 1/8th mile track here.

[s197]

HMMMM!!! where are all these 12 second 05/06 GTs. None of em want to play with me. They all just simply turn when I come around. I at least would like to play. Hell I will even give them a thumbs up if they beat me. It's all good, just having fun. And a stock GT, ummmm easily a disappearing in my rearview by 4th gear (3.42 gears still installed.) And still haven't seen any of them at our 1/8th mile track here.
As much as I'd like to say that the new Mustang is the fastest car around, I know that it isn't. Should a car with 420 hp or a SC Lightning with 520#ft of torque waste a stock GT? Hell yes it should. Why wouldn't it? My car is what it is. It has a 3V 281ci motor putting out over 300hp that looks cool and doesn't cost over 30K. :dunno: If a car with less weight and more power, or a truck with more weight and a sh!t load more power can't walk it, then there is a problem. I don't claim that the GT is the fastest or the best, but I do agree with Camarofan that sometimes the stories do seem to be exaggerated a touch. :wall:

Does getting beat by a stonger car make your car a POS? I hope not, but thats the way it comes across sometimes.

I don't have a problem with modern day muscle cars/trucks. Yes I realize this is a LS1 site and I own a POS Mustang. This site is very entertaining, thats why I am here. Keep the stories coming. :drivin:

[Spaz]

[QUOTE=s197] It has a 3V 281ci motor putting out over 300hp that looks cool and doesn't cost over 30K. :dunno: QUOTE]

over 30k? shit... around here they are marked up a crap load.. i see them sell from 32 - 36 new...
they are sweet looking cars...

i can't get any to race me though..

[Camarofan]

TACE02 HMMMM!!! where are all these 12 second 05/06 GTs. None of em want to play with me. They all just simply turn when I come around.

You can find a lot of them on Mustang forums or Modular fords. Believe me when I say this, I wouldn't turn around if you was trying to race me. I'll race anything. I had a Z28 start showing off next to me about 3 days ago. I was trying to bait him to this street where the cops have no hide outs, but he turned off.


I havent met a GT yet that can hang with my stock GTO. I tried to get a dude in a Rausch Stang to race me the other day, and he wouldnt play.

I saw something that surprised me. The day I was at the track, My best time was 14.6(5800ft) there was this other guy that had a best time of 15.0 all day and he drove an 05 GTO. Yep the 6.0. A stock viper had a best of only 14.1. I don't know what year the viper was though, but it definately was not the new one. We had strong headwinds that day. This is what leads me to waive the :bs: flag with a lot of the stories here.
THE 05/06 MUSTANG IS NOT THE FASTEST CAR OUT THERE. Quote me on that.
On the same note, NEITHER IS THE LS1/LS2. The LS7's have a better chance of making the claim of being king. From what i've actually seen, Ls1's and 2's can be beaten by the 05/06 stang from time to time.

[s197]

[QUOTE=s197] It has a 3V 281ci motor putting out over 300hp that looks cool and doesn't cost over 30K. :dunno: QUOTE]

over 30k? shit... around here they are marked up a crap load.. i see them sell from 32 - 36 new...
they are sweet looking cars...

i can't get any to race me though..

I agree, people were paying over sticker. I didn't, but some did. I guess instant gratification is more important to some people than money.

[Jason05GTO]

THE 05/06 MUSTANG IS NOT THE FASTEST CAR OUT THERE. Quote me on that.
On the same note, NEITHER IS THE LS1/LS2. The LS7's have a better chance of making the claim of being king. From what i've actually seen, Ls1's and 2's can be beaten by the 05/06 stang from time to time.[/QUOTE]

I didnt say the LS1/2s were the fastest. I simply said I have come across one that can beat me, and Ive done from the line and from a roll. Maybe all those other drivers suck, I dont know.

[Black GT]

HMMMM!!! where are all these 12 second 05/06 GTs. None of em want to play with me. They all just simply turn when I come around. I at least would like to play. Hell I will even give them a thumbs up if they beat me. It's all good, just having fun. And a stock GT, ummmm easily a disappearing in my rearview by 4th gear (3.42 gears still installed.) And still haven't seen any of them at our 1/8th mile track here.

Here are two guys in the 12s with bolt-ons:

mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=15271

mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=23154

Sounds like you're racing at a small track. Maybe you could meet up with them at their tracks, or look around at one of the larger ones in your area, if there are any.

[Bob'sWS6]

Everyone of them i've pulled up to usually tries to ignore me and drives away. I dunno what the deal is. I thought they were suppose to be like the Mach 1, and a match for the LS1.

[Camarofan]

It's tough for me to remain silent with all the yacking about the new Mustang, but I'll try to shut up after this post. If there is any Ls1 guy that I will listen to, it's my friend at work. He has the Camaro SS(406RWHP). He bought an 06 Mustang after driving mine and he loves it. I told him about the spec in the mirror and all the statements about leaving the mustang as if it was no competition. He even said that anyone with a stock Camaro says they beat an 05/06 Mustang by even 5 car lengths is spewing :bs: This is from a guy who owns both cars. The fact that he went out and bought an 06 stang as a Chevy fan who's never owned a Ford like myself speaks for itself. Okay, I'm out...

[ss~zoso~ss]

i will never understand why there are mustang owners on this site tring to back up their cars, dudes there will ALWAYS be a rival / supremisy issue with the mustang vs. the camaro so dont try to regulate on this site

[Chubs]

I watched a 05 Stang at New England Dragway run a 12.9 @ 106 with tires, catback, predator tuning, and an intake. They are hard running cars they just need a good driver I guess.

[Black GT]

i will never understand why there are mustang owners on this site tring to back up their cars, dudes there will ALWAYS be a rival / supremisy issue with the mustang vs. the camaro so dont try to regulate on this site

It's not about trying to regulate.

It's about trying to keep it real when the exaggerations go overboard.

[SR71]

That episode has been discussed here before. I think the conclusion was it was not an '05+ mustang gt, but a sn95 car with two valve heads.

john


No, I'm 100% positive it was the 05. I do remember them modding the sn95 car however. I remember watching it sunday morning and calling my brother who's a diehard mustang lover. They were both black, but the sn95 was a convertible.

[Roastem]

RE:

:bs:


I don't know where you guys live, or how these guys drive these stangs, but I've seen your Z's get worked on the track where I'm at. It's back and forth. A Z will triumph, then a stang would also. A WS6 got worked just this last Wednesday By an 05 that has shorty's CAI and tune and an axle back. I don't know what the Ws6 had done to it. I raced an SS and I blew it by creeping forward and red lighted.. He launched ahead and won due to my screw up, but he didn't pull on me in third gear like I thought he would. I was realing him in suprisingly to me. He won by two car lengths. I wanted him again so I could launch this beast on him. I was at the track all day and I never saw an 05/06 get worked the way you guyz talk on this board(specs in the mirror,etc..). What am I missing? :dunno: Are you racing V6's?

I wouldn't be surprised to find out some guys are making their V6's look like GT's, and trying to pass them off as such. Unfair, I know. In current form, my car put a bus length or more on a stock 06 supercharged Saleen (3 lbs boost, big whuuppee) from a dig to 120 mph. But, it did the same distance, pretty much, on a 00 Z28 with a catback. So, that leads me to believe that those two would have made an interesting race together.

[Roastem]

It's tough for me to remain silent with all the yacking about the new Mustang, but I'll try to shut up after this post. If there is any Ls1 guy that I will listen to, it's my friend at work. He has the Camaro SS(406RWHP). He bought an 06 Mustang after driving mine and he loves it. I told him about the spec in the mirror and all the statements about leaving the mustang as if it was no competition. He even said that anyone with a stock Camaro says they beat an 05/06 Mustang by even 5 car lengths is spewing :bs: This is from a guy who owns both cars. The fact that he went out and bought an 06 stang as a Chevy fan who's never owned a Ford like myself speaks for itself. Okay, I'm out...

Has to be the driver. It is 50% car, 50% driver. If we raced on a dyno, then the winner will be who has the most power. We don't. We race in the real world where clutch work, road quality, and shifting ability all come into play.

[JunkyardTurbos]

RE:

:bs:


I don't know where you guys live, or how these guys drive these stangs, but I've seen your Z's get worked on the track where I'm at. It's back and forth. A Z will triumph, then a stang would also. A WS6 got worked just this last Wednesday By an 05 that has shorty's CAI and tune and an axle back. I don't know what the Ws6 had done to it. I raced an SS and I blew it by creeping forward and red lighted.. He launched ahead and won due to my screw up, but he didn't pull on me in third gear like I thought he would. I was realing him in suprisingly to me. He won by two car lengths. I wanted him again so I could launch this beast on him. I was at the track all day and I never saw an 05/06 get worked the way you guyz talk on this board(specs in the mirror,etc..). What am I missing? :dunno: Are you racing V6's?

Hmmm. I ran a 12.8 at 113 with free mods and stock rubber. Are the V6's close to that now?

[JunkyardTurbos]

It's tough for me to remain silent with all the yacking about the new Mustang, but I'll try to shut up after this post. If there is any Ls1 guy that I will listen to, it's my friend at work. He has the Camaro SS(406RWHP). He bought an 06 Mustang after driving mine and he loves it. I told him about the spec in the mirror and all the statements about leaving the mustang as if it was no competition. He even said that anyone with a stock Camaro says they beat an 05/06 Mustang by even 5 car lengths is spewing :bs: This is from a guy who owns both cars. The fact that he went out and bought an 06 stang as a Chevy fan who's never owned a Ford like myself speaks for itself. Okay, I'm out...

No lie, I beat him by more than five. Why is that so hard to believe? A 300hp car vs. a 350+ hp car? Did you also miss the part of my post where I said it was a vert?

[Black GT]

No lie, I beat him by more than five. Why is that so hard to believe? A 300hp car vs. a 350+ hp car? Did you also miss the part of my post where I said it was a vert?

He probably let off when he saw you were ahead, so yeah, you beat him by more than 5 then. Good job!

I beat a '99-'04 GT by even more than that. By the time I hit 80 in 3rd he was WAY back. I guess I could say the same thing about him. I beat him by 15+! Although I'm reasonable certain he let off as well.

[TimeslipRegistry]

He probably let off when he saw you were ahead, so yeah, you beat him by more than 5 then. Good job!


Yea sure, that or I just plain whooped his ass!:burnout:

Show me a stock (no bolt-ons, no gear, nitrous, exhaust, chip, stock rubber etc.) new GT that can run this time and mph. I'm car 57. I ran this time with free mods and a lid in 2004. That's with a 2.22 60'. Remember, the car I raced was a convertible as I stated in my first post. How do you get off prediciting how my race turned out when you don't even know what mods I have or what my car runs now?

http://www.junkyardturbos.com/images/12854.jpg

[nhraformula]

RE:

:bs:


I don't know where you guys live, or how these guys drive these stangs, but I've seen your Z's get worked on the track where I'm at. It's back and forth. A Z will triumph, then a stang would also. A WS6 got worked just this last Wednesday By an 05 that has shorty's CAI and tune and an axle back. I don't know what the Ws6 had done to it. I raced an SS and I blew it by creeping forward and red lighted.. He launched ahead and won due to my screw up, but he didn't pull on me in third gear like I thought he would. I was realing him in suprisingly to me. He won by two car lengths. I wanted him again so I could launch this beast on him. I was at the track all day and I never saw an 05/06 get worked the way you guyz talk on this board(specs in the mirror,etc..). What am I missing? :dunno: Are you racing V6's?

i have yet to lose to a 05+ mustang


mustangs=.:spank2: from me

[nhraformula]

auto 05s and up are pigs.
get a manual and those stangs are in the 13s.
a well launched ls1 wont lose to a stang.

[cubicpower89]

Nice kill. Saturday night I was cruisin around and started getting some shit from an 06 GT driver...(My plates say 8ASTANG) anyways, he wouldn't shut his mouth so I took him on a roll of 10-13, 1st gear.. My sweet spot!!! I pulled him through third and cut it off at 90 or so. It was awesome. When I came to a stop he started making excuses like I got more displacement or his wheels are holdin him down. All I said was 11 years is a pretty big gap, and to find me when Ford catches up:lol: ... HAHA I love my Z

David

[Black GT]

How do you get off prediciting how my race turned out when you don't even know what mods I have or what my car runs now?



Pretty much the same way you get off predicting the guy in the Mustang didn't let off and you beat him by more than 5 car lengths when you don't even know what mods he had or what his car runs now. :yup:

[Camarofan]

Camaro's, 05/06's Mustangs and Mach 1's are all so close that I decided to post these. Camaro's and Mach 1's both think the 05/06 can't hang so I thought I'd provide a little proof that they're wrong:nono: .
I had to post this since this is supposed to be impossible assuming both drivers are honest about mods. The first vid ought to make you Ls1 guys happy.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/mach+1/0/804D7805-5740-4076-BA5E-7B4C4C5B9C72.htm
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/saudalzaabi/?action=view&current=TungstenizerGTvsz28camaro.flv

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/mach+1/1/55C62568-6480-4C68-B633-F79989FD9A20.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/05+mustang/1/04E5E025-C377-4B3D-A303-DF456F2B819C.htm

[Camarofan]

a well launched ls1 wont lose to a stang.
Already has happened.

[Camarofan]

i have yet to lose to a 05+ mustang



Is that a big surprise? Look at your RWHP. Do the Z28's and SS's come with that kind of power stock? If so, I'll admit that i'm wrong:dunno: . Run into an 05/06 Mustang with some stage 2 cams and then come back and talk to me assuming the stang has an equivilent driver as yourself.

[Camarofan]

No lie, I beat him by more than five. Why is that so hard to believe? A 300hp car vs. a 350+ hp car? Did you also miss the part of my post where I said it was a vert?
It's not hard to believe that you beat the Mustang, it's hard to believe some of the things on here though, since I've seen the two cars go head to head and also have raced one myself. Also, I've driven an ls1 before too. Then again, most guys on here are racing 05/06's with 50 to 100 more RWHp than stock too, which explains the stories.

[Camarofan]

i will never understand why there are mustang owners on this site tring to back up their cars, dudes there will ALWAYS be a rival / supremisy issue with the mustang vs. the camaro so dont try to regulate on this site
I'd regulate on the street if I could. I just don't get a chance too. Okay, gotta go to the Mach 1 board to expose the lies:box: and throw up the ole :bs:

[Roastem]

I'd regulate on the street if I could. I just don't get a chance too. Okay, gotta go to the Mach 1 board to expose the lies:box: and throw up the ole :bs:

Mustangs don't rule these streets, LS1's do.
:boxing: GT (left) vs. LS1

FORD SUCKS!:Poke:

but Cobra's are nice:wall:

[Camarofan]

An Ls1 has never ruled me yet. It better have some serious tricks under the hood if I run into one.
My Stang sucks a lot of air through this C&L intake I have.
Anyway, Here's another vid I just ran into today of another sorry 05/06 whooping up on an 03 Cobra. Modded I'm sure, but according to you guys, this car may get into the 13's with a 200 shot and a supercharger.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ff40333d-d6ee-4fd5-8ed1-567b89409097.htm

[Camarofan]

I know, I know. Ls1's run times like that with only Cold air intake right?:)

[STANDSPEED]

what's up guy i'm new up here i'm a 100% mustang lover but i love camaro's my cousin got's a ss supersport camaro. i love it is a nice sweet car and is fast as f@#$ and he loves my 06 black mustang and my othere cousin got's a trans am wr6. i think mustang's vs camaro's vs trans am's vs gto. i think the s@#$ is stuped because the real enemi is the ricerocket's :rl: not the american mucle car's so that's what i think. i'm from oceanside,:cali:

[Camarofan]

what's up guy i'm new up here i'm a 100% mustang lover but i love camaro's my cousin got's a ss supersport camaro. i love it is a nice sweet car and is fast as f@#$ and he loves my 06 black mustang and my othere cousin got's a trans am wr6. i think mustang's vs camaro's vs trans am's vs gto. i think the s@#$ is stuped because the real enemi is the ricerocket's :rl: not the american mucle car's so that's what i think. i'm from oceanside,:cali:
I'd actually agree with you on that cept one thing. I'd get the Nissan skyline or the Supra. Those cars can be insane. I guess I don't care. If a car is fast, I want to drive it.:drivin:

[STANDSPEED]

is all good......but i don't like ricerocket's :rl: i now there fast but is not for me i'm a american mucle car fan........:firedevil............. and i'm from a car club call '' wicked heratige'' why we call it like that because where briging back the legends of the oldschool american mucle car's. we don't like import's :thumbdn: is only mustang's / camaro's / gto's / trans am - fire birds/ you name it. so that why :burnout:

[mogs01gt]

Im gonna agree with stock 05+ mustangs are an embarrasment. Barely faster than old stangs with more HP.

[FuxOnTheFirstDate]

I thought the new '05+ GTs ran 0-60 in 5 flat? I keep hearing everywhere that they are running stock LS1 times now.

[LS666]

I don't know about the street or running from a roll or whatever. Go to the track for a day and watch. Stock Stang GTs are MID 14 SECOND CARS. LS1 with a few mods will bust high twelves on a good day. Mine will run low 12s with a cam and exaust. My friend's LT1 TA would turn high 13s STOCK. Does all depend on weather, temp, humidity etc etc, but for the most part a stock GT is good for 14s.

[mogs01gt]

I don't know about the street or running from a roll or whatever. Go to the track for a day and watch. Stock Stang GTs are MID 14 SECOND CARS. LS1 with a few mods will bust high twelves on a good day. Mine will run low 12s with a cam and exaust. My friend's LT1 TA would turn high 13s STOCK. Does all depend on weather, temp, humidity etc etc, but for the most part a stock GT is good for 14s.
yeah in some fantasy land. Do you neverland or something?

[illcul8troffcr]

Camaro's, 05/06's Mustangs and Mach 1's are all so close that I decided to post these. Camaro's and Mach 1's both think the 05/06 can't hang so I thought I'd provide a little proof that they're wrong:nono: .
I had to post this since this is supposed to be impossible assuming both drivers are honest about mods. The first vid ought to make you Ls1 guys happy.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/mach+1/0/804D7805-5740-4076-BA5E-7B4C4C5B9C72.htm
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/saudalzaabi/?action=view&current=TungstenizerGTvsz28camaro.flv

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/mach+1/1/55C62568-6480-4C68-B633-F79989FD9A20.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/05+mustang/1/04E5E025-C377-4B3D-A303-DF456F2B819C.htm

You know I agree with you to a point that everyone exaggerates their "kills" and races on here but be realistic its a testosterone man driven website put together to stroke egos about each one of us having the fastest car in the world .. even though its not .. we love our cars and to each of us its the best.

But with that being said .. These videos are poorly done .. at night .. cant hardly see wtf is going on in them so really it doesnt back up much at all about whose faster. Races I like to see are those on a track side by side .. daylight.. time slips .. no bullshit about anything because its documented and its exactly the same circumstances.

My car looks damn good, its faster than most cars I drive by on a daily basis, and the audio visual system sounds amazing. These are all of the things I want in my car personally. Girls love it. I love it. I love girls in it while they love it ..:lol:

Mustangs will always be the our arch rivals as camaro drivers and vice versa. We all have different tastes and preferences. But whats really important is we all like American Muscle... Fast cars... Fine women .. and none of us are :gay: ... so cant we all just get along haha

[Fibbado]

:approved:

[feet739]

I don't even waste my time anymore with GT's. Punks pull up and wanna race me all the time. I just rub my fingers together and ask how much? I've decided that beating on my SS against a GT should be worth something. If I posted every GT kill I'd be a thread hog. As far as the new mustang GT's go... They still suck ass like before. I'll never respect a naturally aspirated 4.6. Untill they come with the 5.4 they'll suck.
AMEN!!!!!!!!:lol:

[rsuplita]

I've never seen a stock 05+ GT break 14 at the track. I saw A LOT of 14.3's and 14.4's...a few...very few...14.1's and 14.2's.

My stock 2000 SS A4 ran 13.9 and 13.6 on its two runs, and I forgot to let air out of the tires, so I spun a lot both times.

Since I sold the SS and got an 05 Z51 Vette, I don't even bother racing GTs anymore. I tried a Mach 1 (prolly a 2003) b/c I wasn't sure how fast they were. Evidently, not very. If it wasn't for the roaring of the guy's engine, I wouldn't have even thought he was racing me. LOL

[LS666]

"yeah in some fantasy land. Do you neverland or something?"

Truth hurts, I know, but it's the facts. Go spend some time at a local 1/4 and watch the new stangs. It's embarrassing for the fords. I don't what kind of mods will quicken them up, like the free mods or exaust work on an LSX car, but STOCK 05+ GTs are nothing to worry about for any STOCK LSX.

[onehotcavalier]

the new gt's should be getting atleast 250 - 260 at the wheels. I would be sick if I bought a new stang and it only got 220 (or 120!??!?! like one guy said) at the wheels

[onehotcavalier]

I've never seen a stock 05+ GT break 14 at the track. I saw A LOT of 14.3's and 14.4's...a few...very few...14.1's and 14.2's.

My stock 2000 SS A4 ran 13.9 and 13.6 on its two runs, and I forgot to let air out of the tires, so I spun a lot both times.

Since I sold the SS and got an 05 Z51 Vette, I don't even bother racing GTs anymore. I tried a Mach 1 (prolly a 2003) b/c I wasn't sure how fast they were. Evidently, not very. If it wasn't for the roaring of the guy's engine, I wouldn't have even thought he was racing me. LOL


I had an 01 cobra (same engine as the Mach 1)with exhaust, CAI, MAF, short-throw that I would occasionaly beat a stock c5 with. It would consistently beat any stock Lt1, vette, maro or firebird. It wouldn't even be close to the stock c6 that I own now. It sure was fun to drive though. Even with having the vette, I do miss that car!

[Roastem]

I had an 01 cobra (same engine as the Mach 1)with exhaust, CAI, MAF, short-throw that I would occasionaly beat a stock c5 with. It would consistently beat any stock Lt1, vette, maro or firebird. It wouldn't even be close to the stock c6 that I own now. It sure was fun to drive though. Even with having the vette, I do miss that car!

I liked my '01 too. Don't think it would take the Z though.:dunno:

[whitelightnin99]

is all good......but i don't like ricerocket's :rl: i now there fast but is not for me i'm a american mucle car fan........:firedevil............. and i'm from a car club call '' wicked heratige'' why we call it like that because where briging back the legends of the oldschool american mucle car's. we don't like import's :thumbdn: is only mustang's / camaro's / gto's / trans am - fire birds/ you name it. so that why :burnout:

well i hope while youre bringin back the legends you change your window decals to "heritage" instead of "heratige" :lol:

sorry, couldnt resist :)

[STANDSPEED]

is all good :yup: whitelightnin99:dunno:

[The Rookie]

my cousin has an 05 Mustang GT that he paid 32 and some change for. He has no cats and a magnaflow exahaust with custom X pipe. He also has an intake system, I believe its a K&N, but not positive. Here is his car running 278 rwhp on the Dyno.
http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/Johnny032/?action=view&current=DynoDaySteve.flv

I have raced him from a dig many times. He beats me almost every time out of the hole. He uses traction control and I suck out of the hole because it is not my daily driver. By second I catch him and at that point it isn't even a race. He will not race me on the highway. He always says, "you'll rape me on the highway!" He has driven my car many times.
He is about to put on headers and get a tune, so our cars should be, mods wise, pretty close. We're going to race again to see how well his car responds to the new mods. I'll let you know.

[preston1980]

You can compare mustangs and camaros (trans ams) all day long, every single day for the rest of your life, but its all just talk.

The fact is that the LT1/LS1 beat the 5.0 and 4.6 (z28 or trans am vs. G.T.) from the years of 93 till 02. But cost a little more money.

When you start with the after market mods, its no longer a ford/GM car any more, because you have changed it from factory specs.

I can take a 500$ 1969 POS and drop 10 grand into it and beat all the G.T. cars or LSX cars. And still have spent less money.

Its all about your personal preferance. I like the 87-93 5.0 better than the 83-92 z28 or T/A, but I like th 93-2002 F body cars better than the 94-2004 stangs. Thats just my opinion. They are both great American cars.

It comes down to what you like to roll in.

One more thing, On the Ford guys side, Camaro/ Trans Ams went bye bye due to lack of sales. The new Mustangs are selling like crack!!

I still pray for a comeback model (under 30k, maybe a ls2 !!oh yeah!! with a good rear end this time, none of this 7.5 inch crap) one day?!!!

[romulo13]

Ya dude, either way, Mustangs suck. :yup:

[onehotcavalier]

Ya dude, either way, Mustangs suck. :yup:
Too bad I just got rid of my mustang, since we both live in Houston...

[Camarofan]

Im gonna agree with stock 05+ mustangs are an embarrasment. Barely faster than old stangs with more HP.
I would smoke a previous generation GT. Already have.

[Camarofan]

I thought the new '05+ GTs ran 0-60 in 5 flat? I keep hearing everywhere that they are running stock LS1 times now.
In the real world, yes. You are right. These guys either know guys with 05 GTs that are first time drivers or something because I witness things in a totally different light. Of Course a 350+RWHP Camaro will beat a stock 05/06 GT. I've raced an SS and driven a Z28 and these guys are trippin. I'd love to meet any one of them at the track with similar mods.:drivin:

[Camarofan]

I don't know about the street or running from a roll or whatever. Go to the track for a day and watch. Stock Stang GTs are MID 14 SECOND CARS.
:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
:lol: This dude is trippin unless he means high altitude times.
LS1 with a few mods will bust high twelves on a good day. Mine will run low 12s with a cam and exaust. My friend's LT1 TA would turn high 13s STOCK. Does all depend on weather, temp, humidity etc etc, but for the most part a stock GT is good for 14s.
A stock LT1 will get owned by this 05 GT, PERIOD. Your friend sounds like a good driver. I've seen stock 05/06's run anywhere from 13.4 to 15's at sea level. Different drivers do different times.
Yes, Ls1's will run those times with a cam and exhaust, but the Mustang GT will also bust into the 12's with a few mods. I'm about to bust into the 13's at 5800 feet where the times are about 1.1 seconds slower than sea level. My friends don't believe I can do it.
They didn't believe I would break deep into the 14's stock at my track because is brutal. One of my friends had a modded LT1 that couldn't get into the 14's out here and so he believe I couldn't. I ran a 14.6 with head winds. The head winds where so strong along with the high altittude, that an 05 GTO only could run a 15.0 on this same day. Vettes where in the 13's. the Camaros where right there with me in the 14's.

[Camarofan]

You know I agree with you to a point that everyone exaggerates their "kills" and races on here but be realistic its a testosterone man driven website put together to stroke egos about each one of us having the fastest car in the world .. even though its not .. we love our cars and to each of us its the best.

But with that being said .. These videos are poorly done .. at night .. cant hardly see wtf is going on in them so really it doesnt back up much at all about whose faster. Races I like to see are those on a track side by side .. daylight.. time slips .. no bullshit about anything because its documented and its exactly the same circumstances.

My car looks damn good, its faster than most cars I drive by on a daily basis, and the audio visual system sounds amazing. These are all of the things I want in my car personally. Girls love it. I love it. I love girls in it while they love it ..:lol:

Mustangs will always be the our arch rivals as camaro drivers and vice versa. We all have different tastes and preferences. But whats really important is we all like American Muscle... Fast cars... Fine women .. and none of us are :gay: ... so cant we all just get along haha
Yes, we can get along as far as I'm concerned. I love Camaros. Look at my username. I will more than likely have the 2007 version in my garage one day. I just have to expose the B.S., that's all. I don't downplay any Chevy or Mopar or anything like that because I love the big three.

[SpeedDemon1]

I roasted one in my maro a few nights ago, it was an old guy and some kids, the kid yelled out that my car is slow, so we both punched it from 55 and im not even goin to tell the rest of the story cause i dont want to imbarass mustanks that much, lol

[mogs01gt]

I would smoke a previous generation GT. Already have.
and your point is????? WOW so you beat a car, whooptie freaking do.


You would smoke a stock one, maybe. Other than that, all bets are off.

[onehotcavalier]

uh oh! Blueoval bitch fight on a chevy board

sounds like 1999 again with the sn95 and new edge mustabgs at eachother's throats, lol

I'll jump in! My previous generation mustang I just sold would have beaten you stock, camarofan.

[1loudz28]

A stock LT1 will get owned by this 05 GT, PERIOD. .

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ya think? They put down crap on the dyno stock. You would get owned by a full bolt on lt1 with a good driver i would put money on that.

[Roastem]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ya think? They put down crap on the dyno stock. You would get owned by a full bolt on lt1 with a good driver i would put money on that.

He did say "STOCK."

[raybroussard]

I have owned 2 z28's and now have an 06 Gt and I love both cars and will more than likely own a 2009 Camaro....


Raced a guy in a 99 Camaro ls1 (5 times today) he had exhaust work done and he was driving an automatic. The first 4 races were from a 20mph roll and results were identical each time, I pulled him real hard on the bottom and not so hard on the top. When I reached approx 100mph I was no less than 3 cars ahead. Last race we went from a dig and he got me on the jump (3 honk tecnique with him honking) but I reeled him in before redlining in 1st and then it was basically the same as the other races. We talked for a while after we did all the racing and he stated he was pretty surprised by the results. I told him if I were stock he would have walked away from me, which is probably right. Anyway I had to pay a few $$$ to wake up my stang, that is what it will take for any new stang owner who wants to fool around with ls1's. I miss my Z28 and I am anxiously awaiting the 2009 Camaro's.

Happy racing everyone!

[Camarofan]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ya think? They put down crap on the dyno stock. You would get owned by a full bolt on lt1 with a good driver i would put money on that.

I would agree if a stock stang went against a full bolt on Lt1. Now a full bolt on Stang. Not happenin. I'd put down even more money on that.

[Camarofan]

uh oh! Blueoval bitch fight on a chevy board

sounds like 1999 again with the sn95 and new edge mustabgs at eachother's throats, lol

I'll jump in! My previous generation mustang I just sold would have beaten you stock, camarofan.

I've killed so many previous generationg stangs that your statement is hard to believe. It had to be a previous generation Cobra or something. Even if it was, you would probably win some and lose some.

[onehotcavalier]

I've killed so many previous generationg stangs that your statement is hard to believe. It had to be a previous generation Cobra or something. Even if it was, you would probably win some and lose some.

It was a Cobra :-) 13.4@106 with CAI, MAF, X-Pipe, Last time I ran it at the track. Bad 60' with stock tires. I didn't have any 05 GT's beat me on the street before I traded it in.

[mrr23]

you know, for 79 posts, this one is going along pretty well. i'm proud of you guys. granted, i haven't reall ALL the posts in this one. but, most of them.

[1loudz28]

I would agree if a stock stang went against a full bolt on Lt1. Now a full bolt on Stang. Not happenin. I'd put down even more money on that.

i know that i just cant believe he said this stang will beat a stock lt1 that is obvious isnt it????? And yes a full bolt on newer stang vs a full bolt on lt1 the stang would win......... but when you consider that you are running against a car that was introduced in 93 well ummm :lol: :thumbdn: to ford.

[RedT/Anumber1]

Just got home and on the way home I stoped at the Sonic and encountered a 06 mustang GT. I asked him if he wanted to run, but he punked out.
What is the point of buying a V8 is you drive it like a V6. If I had a 4 banger I bet he wouldn't have hesitated. I would have beat his ass ,but who cares, its all in the name of fun, right. Some times I wish people would grow some ball. I mean really. I'v never lost but If a Viper pulled up beside me I'd take a swing at it.

[Camarofan]

Just got home and on the way home I stoped at the Sonic and encountered a 06 mustang GT. I asked him if he wanted to run, but he punked out.
What is the point of buying a V8 is you drive it like a V6. If I had a 4 banger I bet he wouldn't have hesitated. I would have beat his ass ,but who cares, its all in the name of fun, right. Some times I wish people would grow some ball. I mean really. I'v never lost but If a Viper pulled up beside me I'd take a swing at it.

I wish I had an Ls1 challenge. All i get are Civics and other cars that shouldn't try.

[RedT/Anumber1]

I wish I had an Ls1 challenge. All i get are Civics and other cars that shouldn't try.

I would be happy to make your wish come true! as long as you live near Hobbs, Lobbuck, or the Dallas-Fortworth area. In the end, its all in the name of fun right.:)

[RedT/Anumber1]

This goes for any Mustang. Just don't waste my time if you have a V6. I like the Ford Gm rivalry, It makes our cars that much funner.

[Camarofan]

This goes for any Mustang. Just don't waste my time if you have a V6. I like the Ford Gm rivalry, It makes our cars that much funner.

It actually feels funny for me to be on this side of the rivarly, since I grew up a Corvette/Camaro fan. I can't wait until the new model shows up. I'm a fan of the big three now that I've ventured a little. I target EVO's/STI's and SRT4's mostly. Oh, I do have a bit of a rivalry with 2003/4 Mach 1's.

[RedT/Anumber1]

It actually feels funny for me to be on this side of the rivarly, since I grew up a Corvette/Camaro fan. I can't wait until the new model shows up. I'm a fan of the big three now that I've ventured a little. I target EVO's/STI's and SRT4's mostly. Oh, I do have a bit of a rivalry with 2003/4 Mach 1's.

I really don't hate any car. I just hate shit talkers. Before I got my ls1 I was looking at a couple of cobras, evo's, and sti's.
I just like fast. I hate it when people single people out on this site just becaus it isn't a LSX.

[jre99z28]

what's up guy i'm new up here i'm a 100% mustang lover but i love camaro's my cousin got's a ss supersport camaro. i love it is a nice sweet car and is fast as f@#$ and he loves my 06 black mustang and my othere cousin got's a trans am wr6. i think mustang's vs camaro's vs trans am's vs gto. i think the s@#$ is stuped because the real enemi is the ricerocket's :rl: not the american mucle car's so that's what i think. i'm from oceanside,:cali:

You really need to learn to spell, or rather learn proper english.

[skar]

You really need to learn to spell, or rather learn proper english.

?:dunno:I get his drift.

[Angus66]

I'll never respect a naturally aspirated 4.6. Untill they come with the 5.4 they'll suck.

That's an interesting statement - what does your SS run in the 1/4???

[RedT/Anumber1]

You really need to learn to spell, or rather learn proper english.

what the fuck. You've only got tow posts and all you've done so far is dis people. :thumbdn: People misspell get used to it. If all your going to do is talk shit go to a Honda forum.
Sorry. I just call it as I see it.
Oh yeah! That 16 year old has an ls1. I've had mine since I was 18.
I may be younger but I bet I'm making more money than you.
$1750/week.:yup:

[Roastem]

what the fuck. You've only got tow posts and all you've done so far is dis people. :thumbdn: People misspell get used to it. If all your going to do is talk shit go to a Honda forum.
Sorry. I just call it as I see it.
Oh yeah! That 16 year old has an ls1. I've had mine since I was 18.
I may be younger but I bet I'm making more money than you.
$1750/week.:yup:

1750 a week, and 19 :bs:

If you are selling drugs, then maybe...

[whitelightnin99]

what the fuck. You've only got tow posts and all you've done so far is dis people. :thumbdn: People misspell get used to it. If all your going to do is talk shit go to a Honda forum.
Sorry. I just call it as I see it.
Oh yeah! That 16 year old has an ls1. I've had mine since I was 18.
I may be younger but I bet I'm making more money than you.
$1750/week.:yup:


what the hell do you do :help:

[rammer]

Just got home and on the way home I stoped at the Sonic and encountered a 06 mustang GT. I asked him if he wanted to run, but he punked out.
What is the point of buying a V8 is you drive it like a V6. If I had a 4 banger I bet he wouldn't have hesitated..


I agree, if you've got a V8 you shouldn't be a wuss. That's why I can't figure out Vette drivers.....? They're the worst when it comes to any type of spirited driving. Just my observations...If I had a Vette I would beat on it mercilessly!

Dave

[RedT/Anumber1]

Heres the answer. OIL RIG boys. oil rig. 12 hour shifts. work your ass off. Eat, sleep, and work.
No bull shit.
I'm just a floor hand. My job is very dangerouse, and dirty. But its worth it.
And I'll tell you right now, It's not for everyone. It is hard as hell and you better not be afraid of hights.
but that ain't nothin.
My Dad pulls little over $500 a day.

[RedT/Anumber1]

I agree, if you've got a V8 you shouldn't be a wuss. That's why I can't figure out Vette drivers.....? They're the worst when it comes to any type of spirited driving. Just my observations...If I had a Vette I would beat on it mercilessly!

Dave

true. but is i had a vette i would beat on it gently.lol
I like vettes. I'd like to get a one when I get older.