firebird against Lightning ??

[Ls1vsSVT]

just wondering how you LS1 guys with basically stock cars have run against lightnings...

I saw the one post, but that isn't really a true race. The truck would be pushing about 11 lbs of boost, long tubes, and tuned for methanol injection. the Ls1 would have the slp air lid with a k&n.

thanks guys

Kent

[oneBADDz]

You have an 01 t/a and an 01 lightning, get a friend and go race. The 01 will win :hide:

[Danger731]

01 to 01 the TA will win

[Bob'sWS6]

I've smoked two of them. Neither of the races were that close. People just don't understand that aerodynamics play a factor in drag racing.

[Ls1vsSVT]

thanks for the input!!

kent

[third_shift|studios]

regardless, VIDEO IT!

[1fastcamarosss11]

[QUOTE=dipherentdesign]regardless, VIDEO IT![/Quote
the lsi will win.

[third_shift|studios]

you ruin every thread. you know that?

[STRUCKU]

An Lightning with a pulley and chip will take a LS1 if the the guy can drive

[ZAPFOOL!!]

An Lightning with a pulley and chip will take a LS1 if the the guy can drive



Down low that could be true...on a highway run the ls1 will always get the Lightning...now for the 1/4 mile...it would be pretty close....a real drivers race

[bad99ta]

Definitely race em'!

[97vetteman]

Here's a vid of a supercharged LT1 T/A v Lightning

http://media.putfile.com/VortechTA-v-lightning

[Ls1vsSVT]

Here's a vid of a supercharged LT1 T/A v Lightning

http://media.putfile.com/VortechTA-v-lightning


A supercharged TA ran a 13.8x to the L's 13.4x? there's something wrong with that isn't there?

I should be runnin a mid-high 12s with the wheel and tire setup...

[97vetteman]

Yes that T/A's not set up right. If you pause the vid close to the end you will see the times are T/A 13.48 to 13.41 Lightning.

I raced the T/A later that day and beat him 13.37 to 13.45 (his best run that day) plus a hole shot my .27 to his .4 reaction time.

I know the guy and his car has been featured in a UK magazine and they are claiming 420hp with the Votech V2, but there is no way he's making any where near that amount of HP. I have seen the car run for about 2 years now with this setup and 13.4 is what he usually runs, he does have a 12.9 with his 50 shot of nitrous. He runs in a race series in the UK called Street Racer Series and he was pretty pissed when a Fairly stock LS1 beat him.

Only real mod that make any difference to my 1/4 time is a TCI 3000:lol:

[1fastcamarosss11]

A supercharged TA ran a 13.8x to the L's 13.4x? there's something wrong with that isn't there?

I should be runnin a mid-high 12s with the wheel and tire setup...

i said the same thing but then reread and it is an lt1, not ls1. :yup:

[Ls1vsSVT]

that would explain it!!

kent

[97vetteman]

I don't get! just because it's an LT1 doesn't explain it! if he's making the claimed 420hp that Vortech says it should have he would be running low 12's or even 11's surely!

[Ls1vsSVT]

compression is too high on your motors to run effective boost...

[Capster78]

compression is too high on your motors to run effective boost...

Nothing tuning cant compensate for. Plenty of FI cars puting out big numbers.

[silverTA2002]

For any stock to stock race I had with them.....

Down low, the lightning has a traction problem.

Up top, they have an aerodynamics issue.

They're quick and can keep up. But I've never had one that had an advantage at any point in the race.

[ZAPFOOL!!]

Down low, the lightning has a traction problem.

Up top, they have an aerodynamics issue.

.


I agree with the up top comment....but if properly launched a Lightning is serious trouble out of the hole

[oneBADDz]

I've always witnessed them being ass whoopin machines out of the hole

[ZAPFOOL!!]

I've always witnessed them being ass whoopin machines out of the hole


yes, they easily make insane gobs of torque

[Roastem]

I've always witnessed them being ass whoopin machines out of the hole

+1

500 plus ft-lbs of torque can launch a damn freight train out of the hole hard. A lightning with nitrous is real nasty.

[az gt eater]

Did I really read supercharged????WTF???

[Ls1vsSVT]

well, just ran the TA...stock except for an airlid and k&n filter....

Went from about 55-60 mph up to around 90. When I heard it downshift, I went. She got the initial jump, but I pulled her back to my flareside. She sat there till the top of second, and she pulled back to the driver's door. My windows were down (big deal) but I had the 20s on instead of the 18s with 35 profile tires. Supprisingly fast for stock...but between weight and areodynamics, she must have had about 100 hp on me...By far the best matched race I've had since I've had the truck....

Mods on the truck are: 4# lower (about 10-11 lbs of boost), long tubes to dynomax ultra flos, "ported" plenum, "ram air" box with k&n cone, and a boost cooler setup. Weighing in at about 5000 lbs with me and a half tank of gas, I don't think this is too bad for the TA's bread and butter spot.

[ZAPFOOL!!]

well, just ran the TA...stock except for an airlid and k&n filter....

Went from about 55-60 mph up to around 90. When I heard it downshift, I went. She got the initial jump, but I pulled her back to my flareside. She sat there till the top of second, and she pulled back to the driver's door. My windows were down (big deal) but I had the 20s on instead of the 18s with 35 profile tires. Supprisingly fast for stock...but between weight and areodynamics, she must have had about 100 hp on me...By far the best matched race I've had since I've had the truck....

Mods on the truck are: 4# lower (about 10-11 lbs of boost), long tubes to dynomax ultra flos, "ported" plenum, "ram air" box with k&n cone, and a boost cooler setup. Weighing in at about 5000 lbs with me and a half tank of gas, I don't think this is too bad for the TA's bread and butter spot.


Good run...but now put it in the L's sweet spot aka a dig and watch them trying to play catch up

[ZAPFOOL!!]

well, just ran the TA...stock except for an airlid and k&n filter....

Went from about 55-60 mph up to around 90. When I heard it downshift, I went. She got the initial jump, but I pulled her back to my flareside. She sat there till the top of second, and she pulled back to the driver's door. My windows were down (big deal) but I had the 20s on instead of the 18s with 35 profile tires. Supprisingly fast for stock...but between weight and areodynamics, she must have had about 100 hp on me...By far the best matched race I've had since I've had the truck....

Mods on the truck are: 4# lower (about 10-11 lbs of boost), long tubes to dynomax ultra flos, "ported" plenum, "ram air" box with k&n cone, and a boost cooler setup. Weighing in at about 5000 lbs with me and a half tank of gas, I don't think this is too bad for the TA's bread and butter spot.


to add to this I love when someone trys to jump out me on the highway and I am just sitting beside them while they are flooring it and im just looking at them smiling in my pick'em up truck

[Ls1vsSVT]

to add to this I love when someone trys to jump out me on the highway and I am just sitting beside them while they are flooring it and im just looking at them smiling in my pick'em up truck


this is true...and from a dig...there would be a lot of room for her to make up by 50 mph...I figure if I can out run her from her sweet spot, then I've got her from a dig easy....

Good run though...suprisingly fast cars...maybe its time for her to play with a 50 shot...I wouldn't stand a chance

Kent

[ZAPFOOL!!]

this is true...and from a dig...there would be a lot of room for her to make up by 50 mph...I figure if I can out run her from her sweet spot, then I've got her from a dig easy....

Good run though...suprisingly fast cars...maybe its time for her to play with a 50 shot...I wouldn't stand a chance

Kent


hint:...a 50 shot on a L acts like a 100 shot on a N/A vehicle

[ZAPFOOL!!]

there would be a lot of room for her to make up by 50 mph...

Kent


My truck with basically ur mods and my nice tune gets to 80 sick ass quick ...only after 80 do u feel my silver bullet start to slow up a slight bit

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

well, just ran the TA...stock except for an airlid and k&n filter....

Went from about 55-60 mph up to around 90. When I heard it downshift, I went. She got the initial jump, but I pulled her back to my flareside. She sat there till the top of second, and she pulled back to the driver's door. My windows were down (big deal) but I had the 20s on instead of the 18s with 35 profile tires. Supprisingly fast for stock...but between weight and areodynamics, she must have had about 100 hp on me...By far the best matched race I've had since I've had the truck....

Mods on the truck are: 4# lower (about 10-11 lbs of boost), long tubes to dynomax ultra flos, "ported" plenum, "ram air" box with k&n cone, and a boost cooler setup. Weighing in at about 5000 lbs with me and a half tank of gas, I don't think this is too bad for the TA's bread and butter spot.
Nice run but why did you stop at 90 from a 60 roll...that's like a 2 second run. Over 100 is where the ls1 really pulls hard and with it's weight and aerdynamics advantage would have walked you IMO. Just thought i'd throw a excuse in there since you threw a few in yourself:)

[Ls1vsSVT]

no excuses...my only excuse was the windows being down which I followed with a *(big deal)*....We stopped at around 90 due to traffic and the last thing i need is 8 points on my 'ol license...

a fun jount on the street is acceptable...being an idiot in traffic is not. On a track, a stock ls1 wouldn't have enough in it to pull back what I get off the launch...but still a quick car.

kent

[Ls1vsSVT]

hint:...a 50 shot on a L acts like a 100 shot on a N/A vehicle


a 50 shot on heads that flow like a motherfuc*er acts like a 100 shot as well....don't forget that the ls1s are nitrous motors...no matter what anyone says.

just raw.

Kent

[sscrazy]

I've smoked two of them. Neither of the races were that close. People just don't understand that aerodynamics play a factor in drag racing. I dont think its the aerodynamics, Its the Hp to weight ratio.

[oneBADDz]

I dont think its the aerodynamics, Its the Hp to weight ratio.
both play a major factor.

[Ls1vsSVT]

absolutely...both play a factor...that is why us L guys take such pride in keeping up with even a stock car like an ls1...they are quick from the factory. Like I tell everyone...even if i don't win, i didn't really start off with anything to lose...

its a truck. its not supposed to be fast, right?:yup: :notworthy:

[ZAPFOOL!!]

absolutely...both play a factor...that is why us L guys take such pride in keeping up with even a stock car like an ls1...they are quick from the factory. Like I tell everyone...even if i don't win, i didn't really start off with anything to lose...

its a truck. its not supposed to be fast, right?:yup: :notworthy:


:yup: