I have Monsoon wiring diagrams for you

[third_shift|studios]

camaro monsoon wiring diagram

http://www.thirdshiftstudios.com/monsoon.zip

[ScrapMaker]

According to the diagrams... the monsoon amp actually powers everything ACCEPT the rear tweeters... assuming that camaro coupes have tweeters in the rears...


does this mean that everyone was wrong when arguing that the monsoon only powered the front woofers, and subwoofers?? I've seen people argue til they were blue in the face that the headunit powered ALL tweeters, and even the hatch woofers... I guess there was some truth to the Houston F-Body Monsoon layout afterall... these are almost identical...

any Firebird schematics?

[third_shift|studios]

i've never heard a person say anything except "the monsoon powers the subs and mids in the doors/b-pilars. Tweeters are powerd from the HU as well as the rear speakers. Come to think of it. This is a diagram for Camaro monsoons. The camaro door speaker/tweeters are combined. T/A door speakers are seperate components.

[ScrapMaker]

so the Camaro's monsoon amp powers the front tweeters, but not the Firebird?? interesting...

from those diagrams, it shows the tweeters running right off the amp....

[third_shift|studios]

they probably are b/c the tweeter/midwoofer are together on one speaker, unlike the firebird which are seperate.

[ScrapMaker]

you don't have access to the firebird schematics do you?

[third_shift|studios]

un fortunatly no. but they shouldn't be much different, really.

[ScrapMaker]

well what surprises me is that these schematics show that the monsoon amp powers everything, and all the people that said that the Houston F-Body website was wrong aren't stepping in to say anything...

so that means that the Monsoon amp REALLY is 6-channel... not 4, like several on this board say... I still think it's amazing how such a small amp can have so much power... not that it's got amazing sound or features, but for it's size... it gains respect from me... I guess it's a d-class?

[daveb91]

I still think it's amazing how such a small amp can have so much power... not that it's got amazing sound or features, but for it's size... it gains respect from me... I guess it's a d-class?

Its called over rating. Not a rms rating.

[ScrapMaker]

I'm not going by any ratings... I'm going by how loud/clear the system gets...

I've never seen a 6-ch amp that small either...

[White Rascal]

I really don't see what difference it makes whether the schematic is correct or not. The Monsoon stereo system is a poorly designed POS no matter how you look at it. Just my $.02

[02sunsetss]

I'm not going by any ratings... I'm going by how loud/clear the system gets...

I've never seen a 6-ch amp that small either...
I'm beginning to think this guy has stock in Monsoon or something.

[daveb91]

I'm beginning to think this guy has stock in Monsoon or something.
yeah sounds like it.
Is the amp made by Pyramid or something? Its a polished turd!

[rotwiler]

Is really odd if the Monsoon amp powered the highs that GM would make dual input speakers and not just a full range one for the fronts and added a crossover on the tweeter itself. Also, I noticed the more power my aftermarket hu put out the louder the highs were. If the monsoon amp took the line level signal and converted them, the highs should have stayed at simular volume with the stock or aftermarket hu and isn't the case. Also, I have seen many many posts from people that have said the diagrams floating around are not correct. If you look on the second diagram it shows 2 Right Rear subwoofers, then under them it shows LR+LR- RR+RR-, so someone messed up on the that. Then under the area were it shows the wire for steering wheel controls it says for pontiac only(blue wire). even on the plug it shows pontiac only for the steering wheel controls and I know that is incorrect..when I did the pac sw-x I used the blue wire, so it isn't a pontiac only thing. Is this a official GM diagram, because if it is, they sure did a bad job checking over it and there is some wrong info on it(for sure the blue wire).

[rotwiler]

According to the diagrams... the monsoon amp actually powers everything ACCEPT the rear tweeters... assuming that camaro coupes have tweeters in the rears...


does this mean that everyone was wrong when arguing that the monsoon only powered the front woofers, and subwoofers?? I've seen people argue til they were blue in the face that the headunit powered ALL tweeters, and even the hatch woofers... I guess there was some truth to the Houston F-Body Monsoon layout afterall... these are almost identical...

any Firebird schematics?

The Monsoon layout on the Houston F Body site was removed for the Camaro. For the Firebird, Houston F Bodys diagram looks nothing like this one and shows the tweeters running off the HU..The far rear speakers it shows as running off the amp. Not sure how there can be multiple schematics floating around and are different. Even on Houston F Bodys site, under camaro it says "The front channels power the system tweeters directly". Which they are refering to the front channels of the headunit.

[third_shift|studios]

DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER! :lol: :wall:

just trying to help here, fellas. I'm sorry if these are all wrong. I challenge anyone to pull your car's interior apart and verify authentication. Not trying to be a dick there, but seriously....i'd rather an F-body enthusiast do it then some engineer at GM.

[ScrapMaker]

it's kinda humorous that there are so many variations of the schematics on the internet...

[cromarty]

I installed 2 sets of 62.7is this weekend using these schematics. All the wiring color codes and amplifier pinouts matched my 2000 coupe exactly.

According to these schematics, and my verification, everything passes through the amp at the back, including the front tweeters (E13-16) and the rear "extended range" speakers in the hatch.

[ScrapMaker]

it makes perfect sense... how did you verify all the wiring?

[cromarty]

I visually confimed the wire colors for the front four speakers. I am also adding an Infinity Basslink T subwoofer so I spliced some wires on the rear subwoofer lines at the amplifer to feed the speaker level inputs of the subwoofer. While I had the amplifer out, I visually confirmed that the connector pinout was the same as what is described in the schematics. Everything looked good, except for a few typos.

By the way, the Basslink T fits perfectly inside the hatch where the infant seat tie downs are. I'll post a picture once I get it installed.

[ScrapMaker]

I'm pretty sure those are t-top bag tie-downs... how would that infant seat work??


anyways, I wish there was a way to independently-control the subwoofers in this system... but instead it takes the signal from the rears to power the subs... so I can't really cross them over properly...

[cromarty]

Those clips are for securing the top teather of a front facing car seat. Basically a strap runs from the top of the seat and connects that clip.

As for the subwoofer, I think the speaker lines coming out of the amplifier for the subwoofers should already have only a low frequency output, since they are only feeding the subwoofers in the sail panels. Add this to the variable 70Hz - 170Hz crossover built into the subwoofer system and I think it should be pretty clean. I'll have to let you know after I get it installed.

[oneBADDz]

They said pontiac only for the blue wire because camaros were not offered with steering wheel controls for the first years -when the diagrams were drawn up.
2nd The diagrams are 2000-down camaros. They match perfectly. Pontiacs do not match up, nor do the later camaros. There is no single wiring system that proves true for all f-body monsoon systems due to variations between the camaro and firebird, variations in the later year models, camaros not being offered with steering wheel controls and then suddenly offering them, and coupe/convertible differences. The diagrams are not incorrect when applied to the correct vehicle.

[cromarty]

I've only verified the 2000 Camaro coupe speakers and amp pinout. My car does have steering wheel controls, although I didn't pull the HU to check the color of that wire.

Thanks to the original poster. Made my install a lot easier.

[third_shift|studios]

:vodka:

[ScrapMaker]

Add this to the variable 70Hz - 170Hz crossover built into the subwoofer system and I think it should be pretty clean. I'll have to let you know after I get it installed.


what variable crossover are you talking about?

[cromarty]

The crossover is built into the aftermarket Infinity subwoofer system that I will be installing as soon as I get around to it. The subwoofer system has an amp, a subwoofer, a couple of passive radiators, an amplifier, all in a tuned housing. It also has adjustable gain, adjustable crossover built in to it. You can feed it with RCA or speaker level inputs. I just figured it would be easy to install and would add some low end to the stock Monsoon system.

[ScrapMaker]

okay that makes more sense... from your earlier posts, I had no idea what you were talking about...

I was referring to the fact that there is no subwoofer input on the stock monsoon amp

[Marc1130]

My friend's ex has the old monsoon system lying around. I have a 95' Trans Am. Is it possible to use the head-unit and the amp and keep my current speakers.


Also she doesn't know where the amp is located in her car v6 firebird (she left it in there).

[third_shift|studios]

My friend's ex has the old monsoon system lying around. I have a 95' Trans Am. Is it possible to use the head-unit and the amp and keep my current speakers.


Also she doesn't know where the amp is located in her car v6 firebird (she left it in there).

the diagrams are for a 2000 camaro, i believe...so i'm going to say don't rely on them for help; but if you can do all your own wireing, yeah you could make it work.

as for the v6, it should be under the glove box.

[ScrapMaker]

as for the v6, it should be under the glove box.

you don't think it's in the same spot as our cars?

[third_shift|studios]

nope.

[raysz28]

Where is the Monsoon amp located??
also, im using the factory headunit and thinking about running speaker line inputs to my amp. can i tap into a set of speaker lines or is there a way to run an RCA cable off the factory headunit?

thanks for your help

[ScrapMaker]

passenger-side wheelwell and yes there are adapters you can buy but it's a horrible idea to use an aftermarket amp on the stock headunit... the stock unit clips badly, which will kill your speakers in no time.

[Marc1130]

If anyone needs a monsoon headunit let me know/ if anyone know hows to wire a monsoon headunit into a non-monsoon system let me know. Thanks -Marc

[jw714]

i'd be very interested in a monsoon H/U, depending on condition and price. Send pics to e-mail jwsft@aol.com. Also, would like to hear the answer to the question about wiring.

[Marc1130]

PM Sent

[ScrapMaker]

Uh... there's no such thing as a 'monsoon' headunit.... Well, I mean there's a monsoon faceplate, so I guess you're right, but there's no difference in ANY wiring, or any internals or anything from a standard headunit...

Monsoon means everything else is 'upgraded,' but not the headunit itself.

So to putting it in a non-monsoon car should work just fine... Only question I have for you is why would want to do that in the first place...

[jw714]

Doesn't the Monsoon H/U put out 500 watts compared to less output in the stock H/U?

[oneBADDz]

Doesn't the Monsoon H/U put out 500 watts compared to less output in the stock H/U?
the monsoon system uses an external amp

[ScrapMaker]

Doesn't the Monsoon H/U put out 500 watts compared to less output in the stock H/U?


Yeah, that's a common misconception... but in reality, the monsoon headunit simply has a different faceplate mounted to it... same crappy internals, and same standard wiring harness interface on the back.

[Bill8706]

I want to put my alpine head unit in my car. Would I be able to wire it straight to the stock harness or would it not be compatiable with the amp? I also have alpine speakers, would they go with the system. (4ohm 50 Rms 250 Peak).

[ScrapMaker]

If you had the stock monsoon system in there, and ONLY changed the headunit, then you'd have no problem. If you are changing out all the speakers, you will have to pull the monsoon amp, most likely...

[patidi]

So I was trying to wire my sub off the monsoon amp and funny story. The BROWN, YELLOW , LT BLUE, DR BLUE wires seem to be the line level in for the amp. They also can power my Kick L5... I even unplugged the harness from the amp and the Kicker stayed on and with out the wires above connected the amp doesn't play any sound. So in a 2001 SS what wire colors go from what source to what speaker!!! This is crazy! :cuss: If the HU can power the sub that nice then I would like to wire it to the amp sub out...

[slade8200]

how many RMS watts does this incredible monsoon amp put out?

[patidi]

I think its 500w max. With the right speaker it can sound real nice.

[slade8200]

yeah but what about RMS for each channel...it can't be much more than 50W.

[ScrapMaker]

If I had to guess, the amp puts out about 50 watts RMS to each front channel, and maybe as much as 75 to the subs, with either 50 or less to the hatch components...

it's hard to say, since we don't know the RMS ratings of the stock speakers...

[third_shift|studios]

keep in mind the amp only powers the low end speakers in the doors and sails. all the tweeters and the hatch gets power from the Head Unit

[moonshadow]

camaro monsoon wiring diagram

http://www.thirdshiftstudios.net/MonsoonRadio.zip

My problem is no sound. The radio checks out good in another car. All fuses are good and I bought a replacement Amp off of Ebay. What I have is a pretty light show. (The CD player seems to work, the radio changes channels, clock keeps time, BUT NO MUSIC OR SOUND!!!!) I found power on the two orange wires to the Amp. I'm at a loss right now???????

Larry mooonshadow@hotmail.com

[moonshadow]

Hi. I'm looking for some help. My Monsoon system is not making a sound. The radio lighs up and seems to work the CD player and change radio channels, along with the clock keeping time. I have tried the radio in another vehicle and it works great. All the fuses seem good. I went to the AMP and bought a replacement from EBAY. No difference. The two orange wire going to the AMP are hot. HELP!!!!!!!!!!! I'm about to pull all the crap out an put in a cheap CD Player. Larry mooonshadow@hotmail.com

[third_shift|studios]

Larry, make a post in the "stereo" section and you'll be more likely to get an answer.

[99'CajunFirehawk157]

I cant get the zip file to work for me...?

[fredmr85]

I cant get the zip file to work for me...?

same - broken link I guess -- I don't have it saved on my computer either; what were you needing to know? -or just wanted a diagram for reference?

[moonshadow]

Thanks for answering back. My problem happened 5 months ago. I finally bit the bullet and traced the wires back and found a bad power wire to the Amp.The radio is working great right now.

[third_shift|studios]

oh shit! i'll have to look and reupload the file...I did some maintanence and it got pitched-sorry guys!

[Cyrad2]

The link to the wiring diagram isn't working. Can someone please send it to me at brc0033[at]unt.edu or post another link?

[oneBADDz]

if you need it again let me know jaison

[third_shift|studios]

NEW LINK IS HERE:

http://www.thirdshiftstudios.com/monsoon.zip

[Camaro208]

So I was trying to wire my sub off the monsoon amp and funny story. The BROWN, YELLOW , LT BLUE, DR BLUE wires seem to be the line level in for the amp. They also can power my Kick L5... I even unplugged the harness from the amp and the Kicker stayed on and with out the wires above connected the amp doesn't play any sound. So in a 2001 SS what wire colors go from what source to what speaker!!! This is crazy! :cuss: If the HU can power the sub that nice then I would like to wire it to the amp sub out...

did that ever work for you? im trying to do the same thing with a rockford fosgate 10 inch sub

[ScrapMaker]

The stock amp, and/or headunit could never power a rockford fosgate 10... ever...

they can't even power the stock 6.5"s...

[Camaro208]

actally, it works pretty good, i went ahead and tried it. its nothing to brag about, ut considering all the other speakers in my car are still in tact, and the 10 inch sub/speaker box that i bought on ebay only cost me 20 dollars, it is great

[fredmr85]

The stock amp, and/or headunit could never power a rockford fosgate 10... ever...

they can't even power the stock 6.5"s...

It may sound better (given the sub is somewhat sensitive and can perform decently with little power (<75wrms) than two separate 6.5s.... However, it obviously wouldn't sound like anything to anyone who has ever heard a real setup.

I still want someone (Camaro owner) to use a 2 ohm DVC sub, and power one voice coil with one pair or sail panel wires, and the other VC with the other pair.... that would probably be a significant improvement for someone not looking to purchase another amp, I think

[Camaro208]

well, my dad has a 2003 cadilac escalade ext, with the original bose setup, but it has a 1000 watt amp powering 2 jl audio 12s, so i know what a good system sounds like, and i know that mine doesnt sound great, but for me it is fine, i listen to classic rock anyway, so wahtever.

[seasponge]

I have a 2000 Z as well. Can you post your wire findings? (diagram)
Thanks.

[Z28-00]

camaro monsoon wiring diagram

http://www.thirdshiftstudios.com/monsoon.zip

Do you stil have the diagrams. Both front speakers blew, & I bought speakers that are "supposed bto be an exact" fit.

[third_shift|studios]

ahhhh shit....i did a massive website update last week and accidently deleted them offline. I'll have to look for them at my home computer...thanks for the heads up!

[Too Fast]

I used the LR sub line level wires, got a low level convertor for them, connected that to my (new) amp, and that runs 2 10s in the hatch cover. Very nice bass now, shakes the can in the cup holder nicely! BTW, before I got the amp I had the stock Monsoon amp drive the 10s, it worked ok and was an improvement over the stock sail panel subs.

[third_shift|studios]

link should be reactivated now!

[racer x z28]

:brick:does anyone know what wire the mute wire is? im getting ready to put a bluetooth hands free kit in and need to connect to the mute wire so it will mute when a call comes in? the only thing i see in the diagram is steering wheel control? 01 camaro with moonson
thanks!!!!!!!:brick:

[Danger731]

I have a2002 Z/28 with a monsoon. My L front speaker went out. I can use the fade and I get power to the L rear and left sub also all three speakers on the R side. Only the front L has no sound. No signals get to the L front speaker. I replaced the HU with another monsoon HU, still no signal to the L front speaker. I then replaced the AMP with another used Monsoon amp. Still no signal to the L front speaker. What could be causing this ?

[Too Fast]

Sounds like possible broken speaker wire in the door jamb. That would be first to check, yeah it's a PITA. Think, tho, that door is opened/closed the most and that stresses the wires. I have fixed wires for other concerns on other cars in the past, the drivers door wires are first to go. Anyway, something to consider.

[Danger731]

Is there a testing device I can use on a speaker wire to check continuity without stripping it ?

[Too Fast]

Use the wiring diagrams to see where your speaker wire goes to, then get to both ends of that wire, then ohm the wire. That is the best way. Shake the wiring harness while you have the ohmmeter hooked up also. I bet you have a broken/bad wire somewhere....

[Danger731]

That is impossible to ohm sisnce it starts in the trunk at the amp and goes to the L front door. Maybe the dealer has an idea.

[Too Fast]

That is how I do it at work. My meter has long wires, I get one end then find the other and ohm it. Not real fun, but it is my work. Just gotta git-er'dun! There's some nice English!

[jad628]

Connect a piece of wire to one end that is long enough to allow you to use a multimeter at the other end of where you'll be doing the ohms check. It's not like you are checking for amperage or voltage. Any reading other that nil means the wire isn't broken so a piece of scrap wire is all the additional "tool length" you need.

[Danger731]

oK With I see it could be done. Now with all the different diagrams floating around 3 questions.
1. On a 2002 Z/28 which pin's ?
2. Which color are the wires supposed to be ?
3. Why does the speaker not work at all since it has 2 voice coils ?

[Danger731]

Anyone ?

[dubyjoe]

Thank you!!!!

[dubyjoe]

Thank you, Great info, especially the connector identification and pin out. With that, you can figure out anything.
Again
Thanks!!!

[Trickytransam]

oK With I see it could be done. Now with all the different diagrams floating around 3 questions.
1. On a 2002 Z/28 which pin's ?
2. Which color are the wires supposed to be ?
3. Why does the speaker not work at all since it has 2 voice coils ?

Which Option do you have?

W54/W55? U59? U27?

Sorry to be the cloud and rain guy... but The GM schematics are specific for each of these options, and vary slightly.
You need to confirm the OPTION on your specific car.
I've got em.... but there's no way I can give a "Generic" Schematic...because theyre all different in their own light

I can Tell you...that the Monsoon amp on my 02 TA DOES have outputs for the tweeters.....
C

[dubyjoe]

My son's is a '98. And with the head wiring diagram, and a volt meter, it was good to go. Now he is running with "US AMP" and is a happy camper. There are 2 wires for signal on to the amp. the pink turns it on, but remains powered, the brn, excites the amp and allows it to shut down when the radio is powered off.

On My 02 Camaro, I just used signal line sensors, but when I set it up, (in 02) I didn't have this info. I expect when I get a moment, I will re-wire mine also.

[ufer219]

i need help!!!! i have a 99 camaro w/ monsoon system. i believe a few years after i bought the car i had to have the hu replaced. they put the same model back in the car but i believe it says "2002" on the unit. its starting to die so i bought a sony CDX-GT820IP, the gm wiring harness and a antenna adapter. i took out the factory hu and found there were two plugs going into the back of the hu. one of them hooks up to the wiring harness that hooks up to the new receiver. i have no clue how to hook up the other one. i am assuming that its the wiring to the amp. now that i have my radio out i have no speedometer, odometer or mileage counter. some of the guages work and some dont!!! does anyone have any idea what the hell i did? also, is there another wiring harness that i can buy for the second wiring plug that i dont know what to do with? thanks for any suggestions.

[ScrapMaker]

i need help!!!! i have a 99 camaro w/ monsoon system. i believe a few years after i bought the car i had to have the hu replaced. they put the same model back in the car but i believe it says "2002" on the unit. its starting to die so i bought a sony CDX-GT820IP, the gm wiring harness and a antenna adapter. i took out the factory hu and found there were two plugs going into the back of the hu. one of them hooks up to the wiring harness that hooks up to the new receiver. i have no clue how to hook up the other one. i am assuming that its the wiring to the amp. now that i have my radio out i have no speedometer, odometer or mileage counter. some of the guages work and some dont!!! does anyone have any idea what the hell i did? also, is there another wiring harness that i can buy for the second wiring plug that i dont know what to do with? thanks for any suggestions.

Sounds like something is conflicting with your speed-sensing output. Could it be that one of those wires is grounding itself?

On the back of my unit in my WS6, I had the main harness, and a secondary harness for my changer. In your case, it's probably the input for your speed sensor.

[Trickytransam]

one of them hooks up to the wiring harness that hooks up to the new receiver. i have no clue how to hook up the other one. i am assuming that its the wiring to the amp. now that i have my radio out i have no speedometer, odometer or mileage counter. some of the guages work and some dont!!! also, is there another wiring harness that i can buy for the second wiring plug that i dont know what to do with? thanks for any suggestions.

First, Was the original Wiring Harness Cut, and your trying to identify which wires go where?

If that's the case - you might want to peek under the dash and see what OTHER hack jobs they did.
Best Buy and Circuit City are Notorious for this, as are other "Quickie Free Installs".
I've done MANY re-work jobs for the local dipshits.

Second, the other plug has nada to do with drivetrain.

You've got wires shorting out, or you've got a terminal block that was tugged on and it's coming loose.
Also....I just thought of this... You may also want to pull the cluster and see if the main connector was tugged on, causing it not to be seated completely.

For the Secondary Remote CD Changer Plug:
9
Bare- Drain wire
10
DK GRN/WHT- Right audio signal
11
BRN/WHT- Left audio signal
12
BLK/WHT -Audio return
13
BLK - Ground
14
DK GRN - System power control

And remember.... SOLDER and tape your connections. :)

[ufer219]

i appreciate everyones help. i figured out what happened. my power accessory fuse blew. nothing to do with the stereo installation. i wouldnt let best buy or circuit city touch my car. that secondary plug/harness is to my amp. i was told to bypass the amp and run wires straight from the amp to the new hu. if i splice the wires into the primary harness from the secondary harness do i risk failure/blowout do to high/low voltage, ohms, etc...? i think im just gonna leave it as is and buy a new camaro when they come out!! thanks again to everyone.

[Trickytransam]

my power accessory fuse blew. i was told to bypass the amp and run wires straight from the amp to the new hu. if i splice the wires into the primary harness from the secondary harness do i risk failure/blowout do to high/low voltage, ohms, etc...? i think im just gonna leave it as is and buy a new camaro when they come out!! thanks again to everyone.

your accessory fuse?

sorry...but none of that made any sense.

You don't cross over any of the wires between the main harness going to the OEM head unit and the secondary plug for the MCD player.
The only thing i can think that your talking about is the High Level Inputs of your amplifier (common with low end amps). That would go from the Output of the head unit, to the amp.
Most guys just T off the rear speakers since the amp/subs are in the trunk anyway. Or, run from the head unit under your carpet, to your amp.

[Red WS.6]

:rockon:

[RedVertTA]

Will this work for convertibles too?