Best Power Programmer?

[cool87gn]

I wanted to know what is the best power programmer for a 2001 LS1 powered Camaro? Thank you,

[AMMP]

Diablo Sport Predator Tuner. It has the most user options and adjustable parameters of any tuner.

Just my opinion.

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

Diablo Sport Predator Tuner. It has the most user options and adjustable parameters of any tuner.

Just my opinion.
:werd: The vinci is also pretty good....but the predator can be custom tuned through your desktop/laptop puter which is pretty cool. I have a pred and liike it for my bolt-on car....but if you're gonna do some heavy mods i'd save up for hptuners software and a laptop:yup:

[AMMP]

ya thats a good point, i'd also go with hptuners for heavy mods.

[cool87gn]

I need it for basic bolt-ons. Is there anything wrong with buying a used unit? Thank you,

[AMMP]

just make sure the car that it was on has been detuned back to stock.

[cool87gn]

I will look into a used programmer. I'm poor...

[dbowler300]

Diablo Predator part # U7198 is offered very reasonably priced through Concours Direct. Is this DiabloSports most recent model for 99-02 f-bodies?

Is the custom tuned SLP DiabloSport II p/n 27007T contain worth the extra cash?

[malikotZ28]

I just got mine in the mail the other day from Summit and installed it this morning on my 02 SS. I noticed the difference right away just driving the car down the street to gas it up. It has two tunes pre installed, one of them being O2 codes off if you're running headers, etc. I had a HPP3 on my 98 Z28 (need to change my sig line now), and didn't really notice the difference. It was nice to have it to calibrate the speedo when I switched the gears though.

[ericwilloughby]

For $319 for a predator why wouldn't you spend $500 for LS1 edit or HP Tuners? Really. Not being an ass. Why? Will the predator display O2 and knock retard and timing? And let you change timing and fuel curves? Or is it just like "Pick 1 for fast or 2 for faster"???

[malikotZ28]

I don't think you're an ass, don't worry. My car is still my daily driver, plus there are all the fun emissions laws here in CA. In my case I've only got a few simple bolt ons, and it gets the job done for me. I'm not sure if the Predator displays those or not- I haven't played with the real time data monitoring yet. It does allow you to adjust things like air/fuel ratio and timing in addtion to the pre programmed settings.

[Wireman134]

Yes it does display in real time, just can't adjust fuel and spark below 2000 rpm. Thats why I got a MAF Translator also...adjusted +5% base to get my LTFT's near 0% at cruise.:Ohno:

[ericwilloughby]

LTFT ??
What does it display in real time?

[Wireman134]

LTFT's are (Long Term Fuel Trims) that the ECM uses to adjust fuel mixture. STFT's are just Short Term adjustments to the fuel delivery. Real time data; O2 millavolts, STFT's, LTFT's,IAT,ECT,MAF,MAP,RPM,Speed,Trottle Possition,Timing,engine load,KR. Just can't log any data. Also it allows you to view and clear trouble codes. Do a search on these terms and you'll get it...:burnout: If your doing more the basic boltons or you want the most out of them get a custom tune or buy the tuning software.

[karlos123]

have nice deal .

[ericwilloughby]

LTFT's are (Long Term Fuel Trims) that the ECM uses to adjust fuel mixture. STFT's are just Short Term adjustments to the fuel delivery. Real time data; O2 millavolts, STFT's, LTFT's,IAT,ECT,MAF,MAP,RPM,Speed,Trottle Possition,Timing,engine load,KR. Just can't log any data. Also it allows you to view and clear trouble codes. Do a search on these terms and you'll get it...:burnout: If your doing more the basic boltons or you want the most out of them get a custom tune or buy the tuning software.

That's great. Looks that that covers everything. Eleminates the need for gauges, software and a laptop. Does that sound about right?

[Wireman134]

Yea, you got it just can't log data. Have a friend along or find a empty road that'll allow you to check the data out. The newer version 2.11 U7198 allows spark or timing adjustments from 1000 rpm up TQ management adjustments RWTD has 1 year free tunes :yup: Link:http://www.runninwiththedevil.com/gmgas.htm
Another link: http://www.lmperformance.com/6692/1.html

[062500hd]

well im kind of new to the computer cars weve always dealt with older carb cars but i have a 99 camaro ss with an automatic and i need some help please. it is stock internals with a 3.73 rear and 150 shot of nitrous. as soon as i launch the car its like the torque management is shutting the car down, it will trigger the lights in the dash and then onece the car completely shut down and wouldnt take any fuel or anything but i let it set for aorund 15 minutes and the car started back and did ok until i tried it again of course. anyway i was thinking of doing a hp tuners program. is this what i need to overide the torque management in the automatic or am i completely going the wraong way about this? help please.

[alb231tb]

I'm poor as well so what I did was converse with a good friend of mine and we went in halfs on HPTuner Pro and it is totally awesome!!!! I too have a 01 z28 except mine is 100% stock unless you consider mobil1 5/30 & fram filters a performance improvement...:dunno: but I don't. I like the fact that you can make almost any value what you want the value to be ;) .

alb231tb

[BlackBeastLS1]

How much of a difference would the Diablo Sport Tuner give me? I have a 2001 A4 Z28 with full bolt ons, would it be worth buying?

[Street Lethal]

How much of a difference would the Diablo Sport Tuner give me? I have a 2001 A4 Z28 with full bolt ons, would it be worth buying?

It will make a very noticeable difference, especially w/full bolt-ons already being in place. Once you start delving into more serious mods though, you'll need to learn how to datalog (or have someone tune it for you), to take full advantage of such mods.

[062500hd]

thanks alb231tb, im just curious on how much it did for your car being stock? did you run the car before and after to see what the improvement times were? i know it should cure my car but i would like to get a little more than just a fix if you know what i mean. thanks

[alb231tb]

Well bad news is I havn't been able to tune on my car directly yet because when my friend and I were at the track without even doing anything to my car is had an audible pinging from with inside the car. So we never tuned on mine. But we did tune on my friend (who went in with me to get HPT) s 98 T/A. He hasn't done anything to it but it came with an aftermarket ram air hood but since he had a non WS6 car it was shoving air in the same stock box. Ok that aside he always complained about his car not really feeling like it took off until 3kRPMs or so. Ok at the track we first did a run no changed just logging. Then via the scanner we turned the fans on full blast and was able to keep his engine at a cooler 198 compared to the 225 that it was running (the stock PCM doesn't turn on fans until 226)... again I could change these values perminate with the edit but for testing purposes we just played with the varables via the scanner which are LIVE!! So after the first pass we did nothing more than add timing didn't change fuel or anything else except don't forget about the fans we turned the fans on right after we crossed lights and back off again right before he lit up the final stage light. Also you have to take into consideration that the hillbilly style track we were at that allows passengers ;) .... I love that last thing about the track it is 1/8 mile. Ok his initial pass was 9.4@77 slow compared to my 01 Z28 which ran 9.2@80 on our first pass of the night both cars hot off the road. Ok so with his time what it was I adjusted timing adding 2deg each time. It got to the point his car was blowing the tires away so bad it was crazy compared to how it run untouched. We were able to get it down to 9.1@79 so we roughly gained 2mph and droped 3 tenths in the 1/8 and to me thats something. That was done on 10deg timing added to the mix. We also made a pass at 12deg added but since his car got very traction limited we didn't notice a difference in performance. Next time we go my car should be ready, i've been adding 3 fuel inj cleaner bottles everytime I feel the tank up with gas. And so far i've only done it twice and i've gotten on my car several times and never have heard any clatter of anykind. Also we never heard any noise coming from my friends car it was weird.. it's as if his car said yeah OH YEAH GIVE ME MORE. But without a WBo2 I wasn't going to get to crazy. Another thing over the weekend I got the latest GMHTP and guess what the have in there that doesn't even make the cover.... HP Tuners oh yes and they dyno tune a bone stock 06 z06 now I don't know if it's just me but i'd thought those cars would come tuned to the max but they were able to get almost another 16hp and 14lb/tq at the wheels ;) . Proof is in the pudding my friend!!!

alb231tb

[PhaseDragon]

I just got the Hypertech tuning on my 2002 Trans Am Convertible along with the K&N Filter and Shift Kit. I have really noticed a difference in the performance, especially how the car responds to the gas pedal now.

Nobody mentioned this product here but I like it.

[FantaZGuy28]

I saw what a HP Programmer can do tonight, basically a full tuning car. Ill be getting it tuned in a week or so...and will get back with the results asap.

[heliskiier]

My advice is to spend the money and get a custom tune from the guys at pcmforless.com....awesome work. They got 30+ out of my setup...can't wait to get the longtubes on there and let em retune! I had a hypertech...sold it cheap.