700hp vette vs 10r vs R1 vs Nos Busa.

[shadegray]

http://www.nickslick.com/nico/movies/4thsmall.wmv

This is why I want an ls1 for my dd.

[0to60n4.5]

Thanks for the cool movie . I should have popped some corn for this one :Popcorn: ( lots of runs to enjoy) .

[MikeSomething]

Good watchin... :yup:

[ss~zoso~ss]

it was alright i was hoping to see the 900 hp viper they talked about at the beginning

[toneloc60]

It was worth the time kill.

[megafriday]

That speedo was reading kph, right? ;)

[shadegray]

Clearly.:lol: If you read those other threads, then you know that if it goes faster than a camaro with lid and free mods, it's always in kph. Because nothing can be faster than their lightly modded fbodys.:itsok: Good thing that stripped, 700rwhp vette was there. I think if it hadn't been for that, a couple of those guys would be claiming that bone stock bikes can't go that fast.

[Seancass]

that was a big vid. took me 20 seconds to dl. sweet vid too.

[04goatinmass]

awesome video got anymore

[Chris Arnold]

Was the vette making 690 hp or rwhp?

Chris

[NeeD4SpeeD]

Probably RW if it was all modded the dynos will only read RWHP the flywheel HP is only givin by manufacturers so im assuming that is RW..


SICK VID tho!!

[Chris Arnold]

A lot of aftermarket companies make crate motors that they dyno at the crank before they put them into the vehicle... You're probably right, but the difference at this level is probably more than 100 crank hp, which would make the difference in a couple of races. I'm building a motor for the stang that should put down in the neighborhood of 700 rwhp on pump gas. So, I'm asking because I'd like to know how I'd fair against those bikes.

Chris

edit: motor, not "more"

[04goatinmass]

A lot of aftermarket companies make crate motors that they dyno at the crank before they put them into the vehicle... You're probably right, but the difference at this level is probably more than 100 crank hp, which would make the difference in a couple of races. I'm building a more for the stang that should put down in the neighborhood of 700 rwhp on pump gas. So, I'm asking because I'd like to know how I'd fair against those bikes.

Chris
how u fair against a nos busa...:lol:.im sorry but did u see the vette against it..there was no match the busa is just way to powerfull...but id like to hear about your build

[Chris Arnold]

Firebird, you don't read very well. Find the following in my post and then observe the context:

"those bikes."

"on pump gas." It might be closer than you think if the race is planned in advance, firebird.

[04goatinmass]

correct me if im wrong but your saying that your build at 700 will compete with that nos busa or what are you talking about when you say those bikes?all im stating is the vette in the video had no chance against that nos busa.so how would you have anymore of a chance?im a bit confussed here please explain on what you mean

[Chris Arnold]

Why so you can flame me? It sounds as though you're under the impression that no car can keep up with a modified bike.

"Those bikes" refers to all of the bikes, the nos busa was only one. There's the R1, the 10R, and the turbo busa, as well. If the vette is making 690 at the crank, then I believe 700rwhp at the crank of a similarly weighted car would be enough to outrun the 10R.

pump gas is as opposed to race gas: I can put down a lot more power on race gas... a hell of a lot more. So, no at 700rwhp, no way I could run with either Hayabusa, but if the corvette was making 690 at the crank, then I'll most likely be able to outrun both of the other bikes.

I don't want to talk too much shit because I'm just putting the motor together right now and it's a long way off from being a tuned running combination, but there's enough potential in the parts I'll be running to make a higher power/weight on race fuel than that nos busa is making.

Chris

[04goatinmass]

i hope u can and will beat the bikes with your car in fact the vette did beat one of the bikes.all im saying is its a challenge to beat the busa...wait did u say u can beat the 10r as well.i dont think so thats a tough one to swallow

[Chris Arnold]

He beat the vette by less than 10 lengths in the vid. So yeah, I don't see anything too tough about beating him with 100+ hp over the vette.

Now here's some sobering math for you to think through:
240hp:650 lbs (that's a busa + a 150 lb rider) ==> 1 hp per 2.71 lbs

My turbos together are rated to put out 1360 hp:

1360hp:3300 lbs (the weight of my car with me) ==> 1hp per 2.43 lbs

More realistically, I'll run 27psi and right around 1200 hp on race gas.

1200hp: 3300 lbs ==> 1hp per 2.75 lbs

Of course, that's at the crank and it's assuming the busa is making 240 at the crank. If the busa is making it at the rear wheels it'd be harder to catch. In that case, it'd be pretty much even rwhp:weight at the max output of my engine and turbo combination.

Chris

[Chris Arnold]

http://www.solisearch.net/ims/pic.php?u=12301DjW6R&i=72232

[NeeD4SpeeD]

Thats a nice car you got there chris!! Thoes TT's are by HP Performance???

[NeeD4SpeeD]

He beat the vette by less than 10 lengths in the vid. So yeah, I don't see anything too tough about beating him with 100+ hp over the vette.

Now here's some sobering math for you to think through:
240hp:650 lbs (that's a busa + a 150 lb rider) ==> 1 hp per 2.71 lbs

My turbos together are rated to put out 1360 hp:

1360hp:3300 lbs (the weight of my car with me) ==> 1hp per 2.43 lbs

More realistically, I'll run 27psi and right around 1200 hp on race gas.

1200hp: 3300 lbs ==> 1hp per 2.75 lbs

Of course, that's at the crank and it's assuming the busa is making 240 at the crank. If the busa is making it at the rear wheels it'd be harder to catch. In that case, it'd be pretty much even rwhp:weight at the max output of my engine and turbo combination.

Chris

:werd: your definatly right.... If you can get that 1200HP to hook up i'd say you'll notch him out...

[Chris Arnold]

Thats a nice car you got there chris!! Thoes TT's are by HP Performance???

No, I'm going with precision units. Wondering if it's worth the step up to ball-bearing GT35R turbos or just sticking with the std bearing SC61.

Chris

[FireFox05]

Damn, the chase bikes speedo was in MPH.

[shadegray]

The vette was 700 rwhp. I know there was at least a supercharger, I can't remember the other stuff. The owner of the vette is on a bike board somewhere.

BTW Chris, there's actually a gorgeous turbo busa running around out there who put a challenge to some 900-1000 hp viper. I'd love to see that race, but I do not know if it's even been done yet. Since muzzy started marketing an extremely powerful, off the shelf turbo kit for the 10r, there are now also a few 500 rwhp 10rs and gsxr1000's prowling the streets. 500 hp on a 350lb vessel= unholy, terrifying cruise missle.

[Ed Blown Vert]

Nice runs ;) :zoom:

[Chris Arnold]

The vette was 700 rwhp. I know there was at least a supercharger, I can't remember the other stuff. The owner of the vette is on a bike board somewhere.

BTW Chris, there's actually a gorgeous turbo busa running around out there who put a challenge to some 900-1000 hp viper. I'd love to see that race, but I do not know if it's even been done yet. Since muzzy started marketing an extremely powerful, off the shelf turbo kit for the 10r, there are now also a few 500 rwhp 10rs and gsxr1000's prowling the streets. 500 hp on a 350lb vessel= unholy, terrifying cruise missle.

Christ almighty... 1rwhp:1lb (driver + bike) would be "ugh........hold on!"

[shadegray]

Hey guys, got a call today about a twin turbo cobra that wants to run this weekend. Supposedly very fast. We'll be going from a 50 mph roll. Got any idea how fast these are? I've got full exhaust, never felt the need for anymore speed. This should be a good run.

[Chris Arnold]

um... Don't know enough about your bike or most bikes for that matter, and you didn't give us any info about the Cobra.. What year, how much boost, what size turbos? Stock motor? If not what displacement? With that kind of info, I should be able to give you an idea of what the cobra is putting to the wheels. How fast it is depends on its traction.

Chris

[shadegray]

ugh, Nvm, I actually went to see the car and it turned out to be one of the newer supercharged cobras, with intake, exhaust, and some kind of upgraded supercharger kit. I don't even know if it's worth racing... Are these things fast without going turbo? I've run a corrected 9.87@ 150.3 mph. Going off of car's ets at these trap speeds, if I could've kept the front down better during launch, I think I could've shaved almost 1/2 a second off the time, but I didn't want to ruin the handling with an extended swingarm.

edit- neglected to mention that I'm lowered too.

[Chris Arnold]

Are these things fast without going turbo? Not this fast: I've run a corrected 9.87@ 150.3 mph.

[shadegray]

Well, we headed off last night. I really didn't want to, but he really wanted to go. Found a clear stretch of I5 at 3 AM, and went at 3 honks. He got the jump on me and pulled about 1/2 a car, but once I dropped into 1st and opened the throttle, it wasn't really a race.... he was cool about it, said that's about what he expected and complimented my bike. Oh well, it was kind of fun anyways.