240SX vs. New Camaro SS

[Superluminal]

Well, I was out last night doing some tuning with the car. For some reason getting the map the way I want is such a pain in the ass. Trying to get rid of this dead spot in the power band. Anyway, I had a friend with me on laptop duty, since he's never been in the car before, and wanted to ride along. After getting off the interstate from some tuning, we head down normal roads and go to look for a place to eat. Well 3 lights later we roll up to a brand new red Camaro SS. The guys car still had a temp tag on it, since he must have just bought the thing. We exchange compliments on each others car and the light turns green. I do a quick check around to look for any cars and police, nothing... just straight road. As I do this while rolling out in 1st gear, the guy in the Camaro mashes the peddle barks 2nd gear and dips out. 'Oh, so the guy wants to play a little'. I get back up to him and we both slow down to about 40mph, I drop it down to 2nd and wait. He drops it into 2nd and hits the throttle. He gets the jump about a 1/4 car, before I start pulling big time. Into to 3rd, he's 4 cars back, into 4th, he's way way back. I let off, thinking he must have let off the throttle, sure enough he's still on it and blows by me over 120mph, as I'm slowing down. We get up to the next light and he decides to turn, doing a small drift around the corner in the process.

Those new Camaros are a lot bigger than I thought. They're definitely quicker than a stockish F-body that's for sure.

stock 6 speed '09 Camaro SS - 0
My 240SX -1

[c5z28]

Bet he wasn't expecting that from a supposed 4 banger-do you have any sound clips?

[LS1Jason]

nice. which 240 were you in?

edit: nevermind, i see ones retired now. :lol: like it matter'd much anyways.

[Sleeper101]

damn your already racing the camaro's, hell I have not even seen any around here. Nice kill.

[blue02Z]

nice!! btw its a 2010 year, not 2009. but again cool race

[Superluminal]

damn your already racing the camaro's, hell I have not even seen any around here. Nice kill.

Yeah, haven't really seen a lot around. Seen a Challenger or two though.

[Superluminal]

nice!! btw its a 2010 year, not 2009. but again cool race

My bad, it was brand new.

[Superluminal]

nice. which 240 were you in?

edit: nevermind, i see ones retired now. :lol: like it matter'd much anyways.

I thought those new SS were supposed to trap in the 110-115mph range. I pulled him like he was a 14s car in the top end, and I had a passenger with me. He was alone. Those cars look awesome though.

[LS1Jason]

do keep in mind that all the magazine tests were prolly done with an M6. The auto isn't the LS3 and isn't making as much power.

[Superluminal]

do keep in mind that all the magazine tests were prolly done with an M6. The auto isn't the LS3 and isn't making as much power.

I raced a M6, not an auto.

[LS1Jason]

I raced a M6, not an auto.

gotcha! :D and I'm sure the poor guy wasn't expecting an 11.xx 240sx :lmao:

[PAT-LS101]

More a4 haters eh? lol silly m6 guys! :) The a6 is accually rated .1 faster than the m6. Autos are just as good as manuals its what u like I dont think theres a HUGE performance difference. Im an a4 with minimal mods and I trap right around what a m6 would. But, if I was going to get a new camaro it would be a m6 all the way. Tourqe management is for trucks not camaros...

[LS1Jason]

More a4 haters eh? lol silly m6 guys! :) The a6 is accually rated .1 faster than the m6. Autos are just as good as manuals its what u like I dont think theres a HUGE performance difference. Im an a4 with minimal mods and I trap right around what a m6 would. But, if I was going to get a new camaro it would be a m6 all the way. Tourqe management is for trucks not camaros...

nothing against the auto's at all. was just stating they didn't have the LS3, which puts them rated 36hp less. Can't say I'd actually researched the time differences though. So, thanks for pointing that out to me. :cheers:

[BLKCLOUD]

M6 2010 SS's have an LS3 rated at 426 HP.
A6 2010 SS's have an L99 rated at 400 HP.

Difference = 26 HP. With average drivers, the ET between the two will be close, though the M6 will have a measurably higher trap speed.

A really good drive with an M6 is going to be more than a match for an A6 (driver makes little difference).

[LS1Jason]

my bad. meant 426. fat fingered the key i suppose.

[Sleeper101]

gotcha! :D and I'm sure the poor guy wasn't expecting an 11.xx 240sx :lmao:

That guy just better be glad he didnt line up against the 10 sec 4cyl sr 240sx lol

He prob would have went and traded it back into the dealer :typer:

BTW why is the sr retired? You just messing with the ls1 for a bit?

Im gettin closer to getting mine out to the track. I hope to make a few passes before the end of the season. I wanna go out and bust that 9 sec pass on the first attempt. I want my setup 100% and no less.

[LS1Jason]

http://ls1.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1964294&postcount=272

post from 'fastest non lsx car' thread.

[PAT-LS101]

nothing against the auto's at all. was just stating they didn't have the LS3, which puts them rated 36hp less. Can't say I'd actually researched the time differences though. So, thanks for pointing that out to me. :cheers:

Its all good man! :vodka:

[Sleeper101]

http://ls1.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1964294&postcount=272

post from 'fastest non lsx car' thread.

Ahh dang, I must of missed that post. Its been a while since I been on here.

Superluminal,Which rear end setup did you have in the sr 240?

Im at that point on deciding what I need. im Also debating going to a higher gear, maybe a 3.69 to put more of a load on it down low so I can actually use 1st gear. But IDK, I am going to be able to make 20psi coming out of the line so its going to be some pretty violent launches, I just need to find the strongest and best combo. I also have debated keeping my 4.08 gears and just launching it in 2nd.

[Superluminal]

Ahh dang, I must of missed that post. Its been a while since I been on here.

Superluminal,Which rear end setup did you have in the sr 240?

Im at that point on deciding what I need. im Also debating going to a higher gear, maybe a 3.69 to put more of a load on it down low so I can actually use 1st gear. But IDK, I am going to be able to make 20psi coming out of the line so its going to be some pretty violent launches, I just need to find the strongest and best combo. I also have debated keeping my 4.08 gears and just launching it in 2nd.

3.69 final drive. You can't trap 140mph without it. I ran 3.92 final from the J30 for a while, but even that was too short. On high boost I would run out of gear in 4th. However, if you aren't making a good amount of power, that 3.69 final might slow a down a bit.

[Superluminal]

That guy just better be glad he didnt line up against the 10 sec 4cyl sr 240sx lol

He prob would have went and traded it back into the dealer :typer:

I felt the car was truly a 9 second car with the 140mph trap. I just could not get her to get in. It's so difficult with a 5 speed manual. If I were to run 30psi on the street, on street tires, I'd better be looking for another set of tires since pretty much all of it will be layed down on the pavement.

:drivin:

[95camaroZNC]

Ultimate sleeper build i think, you and the guy with the ls6 for sure id love to have one of those cars like that or a FD with a ls in it. Nice kill for sure man.

[Sleeper101]

3.69 final drive. You can't trap 140mph without it. I ran 3.92 final from the J30 for a while, but even that was too short. On high boost I would run out of gear in 4th. However, if you aren't making a good amount of power, that 3.69 final might slow a down a bit.

yeah, Thats kinda what im figuring. I have yet to get a final dyno number since I been tuning but its in the 500's somewere at the rear wheels. It acts like it wants alot more gear.

I might look into the q45 rear end. Although I really dont wanna convert to a 5 lug due to my wheel and brake combo I already have.

[Superluminal]

Ultimate sleeper build i think, you and the guy with the ls6 for sure id love to have one of those cars like that or a FD with a ls in it. Nice kill for sure man.

With some minor weight reduction the car is sitting in low 2500lb range. It could get lighter if it went on a serious diet, but I still need some stuff for the street.

..... and yes, my 240SX has completely stock exterior. It's lowered a bit, and has some tire in the back... the only way you can tell.... and of course the sound.

[Zinergy]

With some minor weight reduction the car is sitting in low 2500lb range. It could get lighter if it went on a serious diet, but I still need some stuff for the street.

..... and yes, my 240SX has completely stock exterior. It's lowered a bit, and has some tire in the back... the only way you can tell.... and of course the sound.

I remember one of the first sleepers i raced back when i started racing with my 79 malibu 355 semi built, side pipes, turbo 350 trans with stall and shift kit and 3.73 gears made 380whp. It was a 95ish 240sx dark green with a red front bumper, black rear and a black door, we were rolling on the freeway(not too good for the malibu already lol) but i slammed it into 2nd at 70mph and when he spooled all i could hear was turbo and he was gone. Later found out it was a 500whp 240. God did that open my eyes to the power of some imports.

[Superluminal]

I remember one of the first sleepers i raced back when i started racing with my 79 malibu 355 semi built, side pipes, turbo 350 trans with stall and shift kit and 3.73 gears made 380whp. It was a 95ish 240sx dark green with a red front bumper, black rear and a black door, we were rolling on the freeway(not too good for the malibu already lol) but i slammed it into 2nd at 70mph and when he spooled all i could hear was turbo and he was gone. Later found out it was a 500whp 240. God did that open my eyes to the power of some imports.

I've been beaten by Hondas from the dig and a roll, on the street, against my LS1 240SX. There are plenty of fast imports to go around. My buddy with a '92 Civic hatchback, bone stock K20 swap, and a GT35R turbo kit on 12psi, spanked my LS1 240SX. He runs mid 10s@135mph though.

From my experience I always under and over estimate cars. I've raced domestics that sound mean as shit, only to destroy them. I've also raced imports that I've laughed at, that put a hurting on my car as well. It's all in the game.

[Zinergy]

I've been beaten by Hondas from the dig and a roll, on the street, against my LS1 240SX. There are plenty of fast imports to go around. My buddy with a '92 Civic hatchback, bone stock K20 swap, and a GT35R turbo kit on 12psi, spanked my LS1 240SX. He runs mid 10s@135mph though.

From my experience I always under and over estimate cars. I've raced domestics that sound mean as shit, only to destroy them. I've also raced imports that I've laughed at, that put a hurting on my car as well. It's all in the game.

Yes i have raced many cars that sound meaner but arent and have been taken many times since then by cars i didnt think were fast. But that was really the first time i had raced a sleeper of that speed. My malibu wasnt slow it ran low-mid 12s which was scary fast for me as me, my uncle and my cousin built that car when i was 15 turning 16. It was my first and only car at the time and yes i drove it in these Wisconsin winters lol. So needless to say i thought i was pretty hot shit back then when i had the 2nd fastest car in my school, so it did suprise my ignorant ass mind lol.

[chiller2484]

Superluminal, do you have any pics of the 240?