Is a 3000 Stall good for me?

[Sarge91]

I have a guy that swapped his Yank 3000 stall for my buddies 4000. He wants to sell me the 3000 stall for $300. As of now the car is a stock 02 SS Auto. The only thing i am planing on doing is LT headers. No Cam, Spray for me. Do you think i would be happy with this? I was told it could pick me almost 3 tenths. But most likely 2 tenths. Any suggestions?

[c5z28]

Peole always wish they went biger, offer him a little less and have yank rebuild it. If you want to go that route

[Sarge91]

Well for my current set up, wont a 3500 be too big? And i have a stock tranny. I dont wanna kill it. Plus my buddy that sold his 4000 to the other guy is a master tech, and is doing the install for me, and said the stall is in very good shape. So no rebuild needed.

[c5z28]

Well for my current set up, wont a 3500 be too big? And i have a stock tranny. I dont wanna kill it. Plus my buddy that sold his 4000 to the other guy is a master tech, and is doing the install for me, and said the stall is in very good shape. So no rebuild needed.

I suggested the rebuild so you could go bigger, A local here is running bolt-ons and a yank 4000 12.6 in the quarter tranny is fine. It's russian roulette, you don't know if the tranny will live or not let alone the rear. Get a tranny cooler and possibly a deeper oil pan for the tranny to help keep her cool. The whole point of the stall is to keep you in the power band which frankly is mid 3000rpm on up to 5250 with a stock cam. But yah it will be an improvement

[Y2KPewterSS]

3500 is just about perfect for an LS1, even a stock LS1. 3000 wouldn't be bad, but you will probably want bigger eventually. Be sure to get a tranny cooler on there as well.

[Sarge91]

Yea ill get a tranny cooler. Its a perfectly fine stall. Do you think i can get it cheaper than $300? I was going to try $250-270 range. Cause a buddy of mine is installing the stall and cooler for around 200 or less if i get it.

[c5z28]

Yea ill get a tranny cooler. Its a perfectly fine stall. Do you think i can get it cheaper than $300? I was going to try $250-270 range. Cause a buddy of mine is installing the stall and cooler for around 200 or less if i get it.

You wont be finding any yanks for $300 on ls1tech but you can try.:shrug:

[nhraformula]

I fall into the "i should of went bigger crowd".
$300 for a 3000 stall, grab it!

[Sarge91]

Well im going to buy it next week. He wouldnt budge at 300 bucks. And i couldnt find a used Yank 3000 anywhere cheaper than 325 + shipping.. so this should all go good.

[najaf4life]

$300 is a heck alot cheaper than what I paid... but then agian mine is brand new:eeek:

[Firebirdjones]

What caught my eye is the fact that you want to spray the car. With that in mind you will want a tighter converter. Generally ballon plates are a good idea but if you aren't spraying much,,,well then????

Since you are keeping the stock cam, and spraying,,,,the 3,000 stall will probably work out nicely for you.

[Sarge91]

Took it wrong. I ant sprayin.

[Firebirdjones]

Took it wrong. I ant sprayin.

Not sure what you mean then by "No cam,,,spray for me" but if that's the case, then it comes down to price, trial and error. Meaning.........

Price is cheap enough to give it a try. :D

[Z28Thunder]

The 3000 would be nice. But with just headers I would think you would like a 3500 better. I have a TCI and they have no problems building it to your spec's. I think Yank would to the same. But over the years I have heard bad things hear and on another board about Yank customer service. TCI customer service is excellent. I went from 3500 to 4000. I drove maybe all of 2 miles after putting it in as a 4000. TCI paid to have it shipped to them, fixed it no questions asked and sent it back.

[Sarge91]

Well for $300 its a steal. And i don't wanna worry about breaking the stock trans. After The stall and LT's i will try on getting a Dyno tune. Maybe full exhaust after. But im going to be pretty happy with what im getting. Since im coming from dead stock.

[StuntmanMike]

Keep us posted on your results!

I'm thinking of going with a 3k stall for my car too, so I'd love to hear your impressions of it once you make the swap.

Thanks!

[Sarge91]

Got the stall installed today! I can foot break it to about 2200 rpms before spin. I can feel it a bit. But i guess i need to get the shift points and the line pressure tuned when i do a dyno tune..


But that's about 2 months down the road. Getting LT's soon, then gotta get a Frost tune, or a local dyno tune.


But do you think i will be happier after i tune? lol, my first words where when i drove it was.. ''wtf.., i spent 500 bucks on a slight higher launch??.. WTF?? My mpg is SHIT.."

[Firebirdjones]

Got the stall installed today! I can foot break it to about 2200 rpms before spin. I can feel it a bit. But i guess i need to get the shift points and the line pressure tuned when i do a dyno tune..


But that's about 2 months down the road. Getting LT's soon, then gotta get a Frost tune, or a local dyno tune.


But do you think i will be happier after i tune? lol, my first words where when i drove it was.. ''wtf.., i spent 500 bucks on a slight higher launch??.. WTF?? My mpg is SHIT.."

That sounds like a very tight converter. A tune won't change how the converter acts. Generally the tune is necessary for your engine misfire sensitivity.
I never had to touch my shift points after a loose feeling 3400 converter swap. Sign of a good converter that isn't blowing through the shift points. With your converter as tight as it sounds, I wouldn't think shift points would have been affected at all. As I said,,,,mine weren't.

My 3400 is much loser than that, and I only lost 1 mpg driving around town. Your mileage shouldn't have changed much at all.

[Sarge91]

Maybe it was bc i was floored most of the time and i didnt really notice it. I was seeing how it was. This morning i took it out for a run, it seems to be doing good. But as my buddy told me, im the kind of guy that wont feel a mod unless its a cam or spray.

[c5z28]

You were braking the tires loose on the stock stall, what made you think it was going to get better:lol: tires!!!

[Sarge91]

Brand new nittos..

[Firebirdjones]

Maybe it was bc i was floored most of the time

Well that's understandable, gotta try it out a bit :D

[jaxredg8]

Not trying to jack a thread but you guys sound like the people to ask. Looking at my mods, I wanted to go 3500 stall. Its a 6 speed auto. Yes/ no? Thanks for the info and again sorry to jack.

CAI, 25%UDP, Kooks LTH's, Kooks catted X-pipe, Kooks axle backs, and 125-150 shot of happy juice And a tune by Tony G

[Sarge91]

I can tell alot today. Took the front sway bar off for the track, so its really nice now...


I just need some DR's now... lol

[Cutlass]

Not trying to jack a thread but you guys sound like the people to ask. Looking at my mods, I wanted to go 3500 stall. Its a 6 speed auto. Yes/ no? Thanks for the info and again sorry to jack.

CAI, 25%UDP, Kooks LTH's, Kooks catted X-pipe, Kooks axle backs, and 125-150 shot of happy juice And a tune by Tony G

:threadjacked:
Don't be afraid to start your own thread. We'll read it and help you out!!!

[allbaugh_04]

Not trying to jack a thread but you guys sound like the people to ask. Looking at my mods, I wanted to go 3500 stall. Its a 6 speed auto. Yes/ no? Thanks for the info and again sorry to jack.

CAI, 25%UDP, Kooks LTH's, Kooks catted X-pipe, Kooks axle backs, and 125-150 shot of happy juice And a tune by Tony G

Well I'm not sure what your powerband is for the G8 so I couldn't really tell you. BUT if you have those mods on an LS1, then 3500 would be about perfect with the amount of spray you are using. When you are using spray, you don't want to go very high on the stall and that advice is straight from Dave @ Yank.

I can tell alot today. Took the front sway bar off for the track, so its really nice now...


I just need some DR's now... lol

What'd removing the sway bar do for you exactly? Just weight or did it feel a bit different? Around corners?

Yes, drag radials will help and so will a tune. Mine felt a lot better after I had it tuned.

[Cutlass]

What'd removing the sway bar do for you exactly? Just weight or did it feel a bit different? Around corners?

It helps weight transfer to the rear during a drag racing launch.

[Sarge91]

What'd removing the sway bar do for you exactly? Just weight or did it feel a bit different? Around corners?

For me at a lot more fun to drive. Taking turns ant to bad. If u take turns like you are auto crossing then it body roll hell, but besides that its a blast. Going from a dig make the transfer weight to the rear better. And if your in ''Drive" and stall it up and down, then the car tilts from side to side like your in a old school 505 or something. :flex:

[allbaugh_04]

Isn't doing that bad on the drive terrain?

[Sarge91]

Everyone i know that drags has theirs off. All i know is it make me wanna drive the car harder more often.

[Firebirdjones]

Everyone i know that drags has theirs off. All i know is it make me wanna drive the car harder more often.

Yes, I simply just remove the end links,,,makes the sway bar inop. They are easily reinstalled in a few minutes. Driving without the swaybar working is a bit dangerous for me with 90/10 shocks in front and running skinnies. So I hook mine back up for the street, it settles the shocks quite a bit and much easier to drive.
My father on the other hand doesn't care and runs his car on the street with 90/10's and no sway bar. Doesn't bother him I guess.

[allbaugh_04]

As long as it's safe; I'll remove it

[Firebirdjones]

As long as it's safe; I'll remove it

Doesn't hurt a thing. Some people just don't like to drive without it on the street. At the track it's a non issue.

[allbaugh_04]

Ok thanks